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post Jun 7 2012, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(LiangZhuge @ Jun 7 2012, 12:19 AM)
Prepaid ? prepaid card around $15 (3g). Remember that after the free incoming call period, accepting calls will deduct your credit. I don't use the phone too often, so I top up like $10 a couple of weeks.

Postpaid fees goes around $30 ++ a month depending on plans / usage.

Use Skype or other internet enabled options.
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Agree. Skype has been a very good alternative. Crystal clear and no intermittent.

I even subscribed to their service to call overseas HP. It is dirt cheap and reliable. Give it a try.
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post Jul 3 2012, 12:50 PM

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http://www.mom.gov.sg/statistics-publicati...-table.aspx#ows

For info.
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post Jul 4 2012, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jul 4 2012, 10:05 AM)
Some of these figures makes me go hmm.gif ...

Example Chief information officer/ Chief technology officer is listed as $7,000 as median salary. dafuq? 7k?
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MoM presented the data on a median basis. Having said that, it does not mean the data is only relevant to the average Joes. The lower 25th percentile can strive to reach the median while the top 75th percentile has a rock bottom number as benchmark to refer to when negotiating contracts.
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post Jul 12 2012, 10:02 AM

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Trying to sketch a game plan here since we’re at real estate.
1) Assuming I have sufficient cash (no CPF) to buy a 2 bed room condo or a 3 to 4 bedroom HDB.
2) Again, assuming me and gf apply for PR and under the circumstances that it is going to be approved by ICA, which options should I go for?

• In my purchase I will always consider the preference of the next buyer. How “hot” are the 2 bed rooms condos in the resale market?
• No subletting (if HDB) as we value privacy.
• Do I need an agent to start scouting for me?
• Should I start talking to banks now?


Also, how does bank value a leasehold property? What will happen to the property when the leasehold expires? I struggle to see the relationship between lease life and bank valuation.

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post Jul 12 2012, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jul 12 2012, 10:54 AM)
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First get a banker to evaluate your credit and give you an AIP (approval in principle), using that you know how much can you loan.

For HDB, ensure that you do not have a long term plan to invest anywhere elase for the next 5 years. For PR, you can only buy resale HDB/EC.

i suggest you to buy EC (5 year old EC), those will be a full fledge condo after 10 years.

2 bedder are very hot, if you want very dirt cheap, check out Melville Park, 750k for 2 bedder. But downside, its a little india there. Price stagnant for very long.
Else, airstream, just TOP this year, but 2 bedder there very small, hardly a real 2 bedder. Or Beacon Height, newly TOP too, hovering around 1.1m

Or places like changi or flora drive, mostly still below 1mio for 2 bedder and spacious. One thing all these are very far from MRT and a distance from bus stop.

Usually can appeal for extension from govenment but also depends, if its a prime area, very likely gov will take back.
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Thanks.

How long is the validity period for this AIP before I need to be reassessed? Will different banks give different loan amounts? Typically how much is the charges?

If I happened to purchase HDB, would I be restricted on overseas home purchase?

Once the lease expires, is the government reimbursing the tenants based on market value or is it a communist showdown with bulldozers and detonators?

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post Jul 13 2012, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jul 12 2012, 11:36 AM)
The AIP only an in principal approval at the point of submission, you need to get a new ones after you sign your OTP (option to purchase).

while Sg govern restrict the purchase of  foreign property, just pandai pandai dont get caught. However, if you do, you will get heavy penalty to the point of repossession of your HDB. I just attended RES course (real estate sg course) and most of the repossess case are reported by neighbours and friends (jealousy).

No reimbursement for expired leasehold, you are buying a leasehold property hence value correspond with the lease tenure. Maybe reimburse you the balance of lease according to market value.

AIP is free. But banks should give the same AIP. remember to get valuation as well!
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Thanks.

Is OTP = TOP? I have been seeing TOP in all new condo launches and wondering what it means. I was looking at those condos pricing and you were right, the newer and yet within reach ones are launched in Flora Drive. Simple screening is obvious enough that it is too far from the existing MRT. Infact, the downtown line is still not within walking distance from Flora.

Then I was looking at Tampines, Punggol and Sengkang HDBs. Tampines is obviously overpriced. 30 year old property is selling at the same price as Sengkang (10 y.o) and Punggol (5.0). In terms of proximity to CBD, they are relatively the same. But obviously, Tampines is a matured town, and I am surprise so much premium are priced into a property in a crowded place. This simple scenario is enough to intrigue any inexperienced buyers. How does this 99yrs leasing works? The price seems to be in anti-gravity mode.

Technically, how is this 20% down payment being phased out for HDB and condo purchase in resale market? What about new launches?

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post Jul 14 2012, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jul 13 2012, 11:49 AM)
Yes, those within affordable level are Pasir Ris/Flora Drive.
Flora Drive
Carissa Park
Estella
The Gale (TOP soon)
Ferraria
Dahlia
Avila
Azalea

City Fringe/Boon Keng
Airstream
iSuites @ Tani
Vetro
Callista
Beacon Heights
City Regency

I have seen most of the above for the past 6 months. The above are all resale units (existing condo) and are within 900-1100psf depending on your size and freehold/999 leasehold. I bought one of the development in the list.

My criteria of selection, the current rental must be able to cover the installment and the lowest psf within that area. You must be fast though, ppl buy property here like beli sayur, a few that I missed out cause my bf PR was still pending. The day he got his PR letter, I straight call the agent and pay him the 1%.

HDB procedure

1) View property, pay SGD1K (Maximum deposit) can negotiate but max is SGD 1K.
2) Then the rest can ask HDB agent. Not familiar

Condo procedure
1)1% downpayment sign acceptance letter (Seller's name)
2) 4% downpayment (to seller's lawyer), execution of OTP  (within 14 days) (Option to Purchase) (TOP - Temporary Occupancy Permit - means can move in and stay, something like CF in Msia)
3) Another 3% (minus SGD5.4K) for stamp duty - pay to lawyer
4) Balance of 15% before signing of SPA (2 - 3 month from signing of OTP) - You can apply for CPF if your CPF is enough.
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Thank you.

I stayed in Dahlia before. Despite being a circa. 1000sqf unit, the rectangulars are oddly designed, creating many "inefficient" spaces. The problem with these condos is the "effective" floor space is indeed much smaller due to design flaw.

23% spent in less than 6 months? I suppose is different for newly launch condos (where construction has not even begun).

From your experience and generally the network of people you constantly have discussion with, do they make purchase based on current or potential income?



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post Jul 15 2012, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jul 14 2012, 10:40 AM)
Look for 3/4/5/etc box layouts. Stay away from corridors, bay windows, store room/utility room/bomb shelter/study, wet/dry kitchens, immovable islands (eg. counter tops, decoration cabinets, room dividers, indoor gardens etc) etc. Smallest possible aircond compressor 'balcony' and washing machine/dryer area.

And these days, they sure whack you with a useless balcony. So I look for the narrowest, shortest one or one with unblocked view so that you can open the sliding doors and actually extend the space abit. But on the other hand... think of the dust.
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Now it makes sense. These are not design flaws but safety and supplies necessities. It also explains why corner units garner a "privacy" and "better square" premiums.


QUOTE(deodorant @ Jul 14 2012, 12:15 PM)
I would imagine the limiting factor for most people isn't the monthly repayments, but the amount of cash you need to save up for the downpayments for each property. I mean, like a HDB, I'd say most couples could easily afford the 1.5k or whatever monthly repayment. It takes a lot more discipline and financial planning to save up the (close to) 100k to actually buy it in the first place, though.
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Agree. I could imagine after paying the 20% down payment, I would have to impose austerity on my spending and be hell sure there is no one to bail me out. Taking into account agent fees (1% for buyers? 2% for sellers?), stamp duty, and legal fees, one needs to factor in a 5% buffer on top of the downpayment. For those creative interior designs that I have, those can wait.

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post Jul 20 2012, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jul 15 2012, 04:24 PM)
When the bomb shelter is the stair well, you're not charged. When it's your "utility room", you pay the psf. When the corridor is the lift lobby, you're not charged. When they put a corridor inside your flat (instead of say, having all the bedrooms open directly into the living room), you pay the psf.
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Thanks. At least this shouldn't be the contentious point in the resale market. For bto or Dbss they should at least present the floor plan before anything else.

I will be talking to the banks this coming week on loan package. Any specific things to take note of?

Did some research and found a few good ones and suit my liking. But sometimes I felt there are false advertising by property agents to collate info of serious buyer.
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post Jul 23 2012, 04:46 PM

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Dear All,

1) Is agent fees inclusive of GST when quoted?

2) Stamp duty is based on valuation report or transacted price (Valuation + COV) for HDB


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post Jul 24 2012, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(shanelai @ Jul 23 2012, 05:21 PM)
Stamp duty is calculated base on higher of both.

Is that normal that agent fee is imply to both seller and buyer? Any chance buyer don't pay the agent fee when purchase a property?
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Agent fees inclusive of COV. Kinda counter intuitive due to conflict of interest although it is minimal.

IF your agent negotiate for lower COV, that implies lower commission for him.
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post Jul 26 2012, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(davidbilly87 @ Jul 26 2012, 11:31 AM)
Yeah i also work at tanjong pagar, this week everyday travel from jb, its damn killing me of  cry.gif  total spend 5 hours on travel, 5am wake up and reach home 9 or 10pm. mad.gif

Think of move in sg already , btw u guys know nearly food court that cheaper food in tanjong pagar? can intro me? cause plaza food all min 7sgd per meal  doh.gif
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You should move in. You can do a lot of things with 5 hours a day, 35 a week.
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post Jul 26 2012, 03:37 PM

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Tanjong pagar...walk to lau pa sat?
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post Jul 30 2012, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(kuro-oni @ Jul 30 2012, 10:26 AM)
Taking into consideration if I were asked in for interview the travel cost (and possible overnight accommodations) I could be spending quite a large amount on just a possibility. And with the recent tightening of the foreign worker quota...

PS: I think most people would've start looking through online job market when job hunting, its just that obvious a step. But I'm asking about renting a place in Singapore whilst looking for one. Staying in a hotel is way too expensive to consider.
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You can board KTM midnight train (as have a good rest on the sleeping carriage). You should reach Sg at 7-8am. Arrange your interview around 10-11am. That extra 2 hours allows you to travel to the venue and refresh yourself in public toilet. It's ok to show up with a backpack if you're looking for an entry level job.
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post Aug 20 2012, 12:45 PM

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Argh..recently went through a painful house hunting experience. Inexperienced and contemplating over trivial things resulted in deal closed before I was able to put an offer!

These people brought their cheque book along and in no hesitation to write big equity cheque.

Lesson learnt: (1) If you like the unit; act fast! (2) Do not fall in love with ANY property!

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post Aug 20 2012, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Aug 20 2012, 05:36 PM)
Sounds like you went for your first "open house" organised by the agents. That usually deteriorates into a bidding war. But you're right. You have to be quick. You need to be firm on your budget (ie. pay right to limit of your budget without having to think, think, think) and you need to target a location, not a flat. If you're going for HDB and mass market condos - know that no flat will be perfect for your family/circumstances, and you can always compromise/improve once you move in. So don't fuss over small stuff like room layout, wall colour, slightly small size of this room/that room etc.

My last 2 flats... I took it the moment I walked in the front door. The living room was bright, inviting and it felt comfortable to come home to (no hantu, damp, dark, lonely feeling etc). Location and budget was right,.. so other stuff can be managed.
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I unconsciously fall in love with the property which makes it so painful when my agent told me it was sold.

In hindsight, it such stupidity to ask around about layout; seeking 3rd/4th/ even 5th opinion; whether the front door is aligned with the kitchen door'; how "squarish" is the unit; and trivial things like that. The "wow" factor was there and it should be nothing but price since I already research on the location!

According to my agent; it was a middle age uncle who took less than 3 mins viewing the unit and wrote the cheque. All the while, I was busy asking around about the consequences of having front door facing the kitchen.

Few days before, I was joking with colleagues on how properties are transacted in Singapore like vegetables in wet market. Now this is first hand experience.




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post Aug 23 2012, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Aug 20 2012, 09:37 PM)
Unless you're buying very high end, there's no use fussing over too much feng shui for SG properties. They are built at such high density that there's ALWAYS something that will be at odds with one feng shui covenant or another. IMO, as long as the very basic principles are okay, it's a go.

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Few days before, I was joking with colleagues on how properties are transacted in Singapore like vegetables in wet market. Now this is first hand experience.
All new launches are purchased sight unseen, on the basis of some pictures and a Lego building. So, that's even worse than wet market. So, at the end of the day, it's all about location, amenities and facilities. That's the primary basis for the rental as well. Don't sweat the small stuff.
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Exactly. I think I was trying to “please” my family and friends that my house is “perfect”, critics-proof and to a certain extent, “guaranteed” capital gain. How foolish. Obviously backfired, and reality sinks in when you are told it is no longer available.
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post Aug 25 2012, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(kjw96 @ Aug 25 2012, 10:58 PM)
singapura memang stress, all u do is work work work
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How is that different from any other country? It has to be capitalism.
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QUOTE(shanelai @ Aug 26 2012, 01:01 PM)
Exactly.. come singapore for the sake of S$$$$$$.. haha
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It's a norm. As we aged we do find ourselves becoming lonelier and more stressful. not just Singapore per say. It's life cycle and it becomes asymmetric when you compare what you had done 10 yrs back and what you could do now.

I do agree that Singapore is getting more transactional and the government has monetized everything it could on this piece of rock. I don't see how it can build a nation this way. May take 2 to 3 generations.
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Staying in utility room is - last resort.

Renting out utility room is - inhumane

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