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bradshaw6861
post Jul 9 2012, 09:04 AM

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Hi, wanted to get a job at Singapore but have several concerns so hoping someone would just help biggrin.gif

1. my CGPA only slightly more than 2.5/4. I'm an accounting grad, soon-to-be at least. had to extend my graduation due to bad grades. internship sucked so bad because i submitted my report like really late - C grade to be exact. I don't mind working at small auditing firm, just wonder if there's any marketability at Singapore...

2. If I stay at JB, near to larkin station, how early should i be at the CIQ? 530, i suppose?? let's say i start work at 830am somewhere near Central region?? also what time i should leave Singapore back to JB?? I suppose the bus service doesn't work for 24 hrs, right?? Don't mind if the travelling 2 hrs++ back and forth everyday. it's not like i hv something else to do if i reach home earlier if i stay in sg. not to mention, im first jobber, stay at jb more economical.

thanks.
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post Jul 9 2012, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Jul 9 2012, 09:35 AM)
^ if those lcci holder can get a job, u can get a job, u just need to be "cheap"  sweat.gif
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really? maybe if i highlight the expected salary in the resume, they might consider my application?? LOL..but thought of being 'cheap'...wonder if u know, SGD1.6k-1.8k would be appropriate?
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post Jul 9 2012, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jul 9 2012, 09:40 AM)
1. I guess it's possible. There's always a shortage of accounting staff here. But I'm guessing the pay won't be fantastic.

2. I'm not sure what's the work hours are for smaller firms. But for the large firms esp Big4, don't expect to leave office before 9-10pm on most days when you have a job on hand. And it's not like you can then come in late the next morning. Midnight and weekends are commonplace too. It would really, REALLY suck to live in JB under these conditions.
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thanks for your reply.
1. hopefully can get into audit firm, small firm is fine. wonder if you can advice if my expected salary would be around 1.8k-2k with 2.5 cgpa. tx biggrin.gif

2. i hope smaller firms wont have huge workloads like the larger firms...don't mind work until 9 or 10pm...it'd be off-peak hrs..maybe travelling back to JB wont be too hassling / take shorter time?? so, what time i need to be in CIQ? if i hv to start work at 830am?? tx

look forward to hear from u again biggrin.gif

thanks a million
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post Jul 9 2012, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(yhoong12 @ Jul 9 2012, 10:45 AM)
You dont mind work until 9 or 10pm, then still depend on your workplace location, if near woodlands then ok la, but if far from woodlands, you take time to travel to checkpoint and i guess when you reach home, already 11++pm, bath and straight go sleep, the next day need to wake up early, if you start work at 830am, then i guess wake up 6++am shud be better?

Can you live like that?
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i hv no choice, sg rooms very expensive.. hv to suffer for the 1st 2 or 3 months ....hopefully dont hv to work until 10pm...if so no choice!!plus even i can cabut at 6pm, i might go for dinner and hang out until 8 or 9pm just to avoid the traffic..
can wake up 6am++?? i think maybe i need to be at the checkpoint at 530am already..since if my working place could be at the central region...approx. 2 hrs ++ travelling...

wonder if i stay at second link there? is it called TUAS?? less traffic there? kindly advice biggrin.gif

Thanks a lot!!!
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post Jul 9 2012, 12:22 PM

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[quote=seantang,Jul 9 2012, 11:29 AM]
I think around 2K should be okay. The Deloittes auditors stationed in my company are getting 2.6-2.8K fresh. But seriously, I'm just pulling the assumption about small firms out of thin air. I have absolutely no experience or dealings with them.

my expected is not that high since my grades aren't too good...even i want to try for big4 like Deloittes, i guess they wont recruit even i put around 2k...i guess big4 wont compromise money for quality, i guess sad.gif

[/quote]Problem is that public transport don't run 24 hours. I think the causeway bus service ends before midnight.

If it's anything like the Big4, the working hours will not be uniform each and every day. Some days, you might need to leave the client's office at Shenton Way (down south) after 10pm. In that case, there's practically no chance for you to take public transport across the entire island to Woodlands etc and still be in time to take a bus across the causeway. If that happens, what are you going to do? Bunk for the night with a colleague? You're basically up shit creek without a paddle.

If you're taking public transport - living in JB and working in SG only works if you have very steady work hours and locations ie. you know exactly what time you need to be exactly where.

The other option... get a motorcycle and bike in every day. Then you have all the flexibility you need, except when it rains. Clients don't appreciate wet auditors... trust me. I assume you can't afford a car.

To answer your question about timing... I used to take the overnight bus to Sg from Ipoh. I will reach SG at about 4:30-5:30am depending on the driver's balls. First bus from Woodlands CIQ to MRT is at 6:15am. Get into a train to Orchard Rd at 6:40am. Reach Orchard at 7:10am. Reach office at 7:20am. Takes about 1hr:5minutes. Add 5-10minutes for every bus/train you miss and have to wait for the next one. And when it's peak hour... you might not get into the first arriving bus or train.
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Probably wont get a bike since i have no license at all for motor license...and you were right, client don't appreciate wet auditors...public transport is the only option...i guess maybe to find firms around north regions with a steady working hrs jobs for first couple of mths such as accounting jobs instead of auditing
...or if i hv to work so late, maybe there's a bus service from the down south straight to Larkin-JB, i guess?? i mean i dont hv to stop at MRT kranji/ woodlands to change to the causeway bus?? i tried once at Queen st near Bugis, i guess..not sure whether it's really to the south / far enough to the checkpoint...biggrin.gif i guess maybe there are bus services straight to Larkin-JB, i guess...do advice ya biggrin.gif

Thanks a million biggrin.gif

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post Jul 9 2012, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(ch_teo @ Jul 9 2012, 12:34 PM)
in order to reach sg tuas at 7am. my colleague from Lima Kedai wake up at 4.xx am daily and out from house at 5.00am take bus.
he reached gelang patah at nearby 6.00am to take the 1st bus. then the yellow causeway link direct to jurong east. from there he takes company bus to tuas. so from around 1.5-2 hours just for transport.

i suggest you take also toothbrush/paste, shampoo, towel and new clothes to office just in case you need to work late for auditor jobs... biggrin.gif
happened to my friends who work in KL as auditors or some in banks. also during weekends.
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your colleagues able to get a job that provides transportation...hope mine could hv such perks...i heard some of my friends...if work too late, cab fare can be claimed...wonder if they can cover the cab fare all the way back to JB-larkin
TUAS area seems abit complicated, i guess?
i think there are several stops at singapore that offers bus services all-the-way back to JB-Larkin?? like at the Queen st.??maybe i dont hv to stuck at the CIQ if i able get those services??

thks for advice..
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post Jul 9 2012, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Jul 9 2012, 01:59 PM)
have this indian gal in my previous job
daily commuting from jb to sg everyday
she is the earliest to office and last to leave the office
if a gal can do it i think u can  thumbup.gif

problem is few years down the road, she now only 1 level up from her last job, where her peers already in the mgt level
just saying time if use wisely can go a long way  sweat.gif

think long term rolleyes.gif
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hopefully I can be as tough as your ex-colleague. I only have to save up for the first couple of mths for the sg rental-deposit, then i will live in sg. after all, depends on the working location, if i work in north region, i probably will stay at JB a little longer.
were you suggesting that time should not just be spent on working and travel-to-work??? like if i use it wisely, i might have better career progression or smthg? biggrin.gif


QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jul 9 2012, 02:26 PM)
Judging from your writing, I think you stand a fair chance of getting hired in Singapore, while grades are equally important but ability to speak/write fluent English determines whether or not you are fit for the job.

Perhaps try to get someone to go through your resume that emphasize your strength and play down your weaknesses. And I like your attitude, humble. Hard to see it in fresh grads nowadays.
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biggrin.gif. Thanks for your reply. It definitely boost up my confidence or enlighten some hope that i could actually get a job over there. I will definitely discuss with lecturers or previous employers for good referrals. Hope my command of the language can be an extra credit or something biggrin.gif
QUOTE(yhoong12 @ Jul 9 2012, 02:27 PM)
cab fare from singapore back to JB-Larkin i don't think can be claimed, quite expensive one. your friends say can be claim should be only in singapore.

Bus service back to JB-Larkin, only got 170,causeway,SJE. or maybe you can hook up with the factory bus when u at CIQ, pay them $1-2 can already.
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Oh yes, you are right, only within singapore area. Hopefully the cab can get me into the CIQ, so that I don't have to take public transport to the Woodlands CIQ...
The buses services mentioned are noted with thanks. I tried 170 at Kranji-JB Larkin, and causeway from Queen st. bugis - Larkin s well..SJE not sure...wonder if you know whether other regions have such bus services like straight back to JB-Larkin...

QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 9 2012, 02:56 PM)
My friend who works in banking/trade, if I remember, after 9pm can ride cab.
All the way from Tg. Pagar (south) to Woodlands area (north)
Happens on average 1-2 times a week (and still is).

But no one cross border yet  tongue.gif
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Ah...thanks for the info. noted...maybe cab ride is faster than MRT/ Bus during off-peak?? just curious..biggrin.gif
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post Jul 9 2012, 04:59 PM

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will do so for if cannot bear the lifestyle of traveling back-and-forth. Thanks for advice smile.gif
QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 9 2012, 04:02 PM)
I recall 2 operators, 170 SBS (normal and express) and Causeway Link.
I normally use 170 between Kranji and Larkin. Once you get familiar with the tempo, frequency and jam period, you'll be like duck in water.

Cab ride is given due to work late night (after 9/10pm is consider late for the staff) and for safety/security purpose.
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Yeah, just did some research on the web, basically will take causeway link via woodlands CIQ, higher frequency and longer hour of services - last bus from queen st is 11++pm.
Hopefully future colleagues will give better insights. wish me luck! biggrin.gif
QUOTE(yhoong12 @ Jul 9 2012, 04:15 PM)
The cab can get you to CIQ, there is a taxi stand where near to train checkpoint, normally taxi drop people there. bus services straight back to JB-Larkin i think only those mentioned, coz normally what i saw at CIQ, for public transport just these only, other is bus kilang, van only.

And it is best to find job that have more stable working hours if you going to stay JB-Larkin

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wonder if the train checkpoint near to the bus checkpoint?? i assume all at the same checkpoint - Woodlands CIQ. then i can walk to the bus checkpoint and back to larkin.
thanks for advice further. smile.gif
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post Jul 10 2012, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(yhoong12 @ Jul 9 2012, 05:11 PM)
Erm, i guess you can say quite near la, just walk for 5 mins you can see custom then just go thru custom, you are back to where the bus waiting area.
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You mean stay near JB custom area? if there nearby got room, i'm more interested. Thanks for info biggrin.gif
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post Jul 12 2012, 01:22 PM

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Upon waiting for graduation approved by the University, I am starting to look for jobs at Singapore but before sending out my applications, i need the award degree and academic transcripts approved from university.

Just wondering what else should i prepare technically?? Want to get into audit line. Should I brush up some other skills?Revise what I have learnt so far??? or pick up some jargons??
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post Jul 16 2012, 10:59 AM

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hi,
was wondering about the safety issue if I stay in JB area...possibly very near to JB custom...
thx for advice.

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post Jul 26 2012, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(davidbilly87 @ Jul 26 2012, 11:31 AM)
Yeah i also work at tanjong pagar, this week everyday travel from jb, its damn killing me of  cry.gif  total spend 5 hours on travel, 5am wake up and reach home 9 or 10pm. mad.gif

Think of move in sg already , btw u guys know nearly food court that cheaper food in tanjong pagar? can intro me? cause plaza food all min 7sgd per meal  doh.gif
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5am wake up so early!! where you stay? wonder any residential area near JB custom like I can just walk to the custom.
Tanjong pagar i think quite near to Central side, if im not mistaken.
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post Jul 31 2012, 03:37 PM

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Hi,
hope this is not too much asking.
i'm looking for jobs at Singapore. Just finished studies and waiting for degree letter. But it just takes forever.
So, is it possible that I find some temp jobs/ contract based that only need A'Level / O' Lvl education requirements. Those jobs are such as admin/ account assistance and etc.
Do I include my Degree education in my CV? however, I have internship experience though.???

Even I include the my Degree education in CV, is it possible to apply for jobs with academic transcripts but without Degree Letter of COmpletion yet. ( For jobs that need minimum degree qualification)
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post Aug 8 2012, 11:17 AM

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hi all,
May I ask if I apply jobs at recruitment agency such as Recruit Express, do I have to pay for agent fees or something??
Thanks in advance biggrin.gif


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post Aug 8 2012, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(yhoong12 @ Aug 8 2012, 11:41 AM)
Yes, you need to pay for agent fees when they secure a job and you pass the interview for the job
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How's the fees gonna be like?? one month salary or partial?
Thanks!

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