the best so far is stan chart... they open for free, comes with credit cards... with free $$$ ($160) and balenciaga pen too... depending on your company's relationship...

internal audit is mostly business process audit... usually to detect fraud

external audit is mostly financial reporting... usually for compliance and irregularities.. there's also process audit

i would say external audit have more structured learning & promotion... when u give up, u can be an accountant... if u hav pro. cert.

for internal audit if u leave u can be a consultant... at those advisory firms/big 4

first thing first... if u manage to be an accountant fresh out of school then good... r you doing ur internship in sg?

I wonder anyone encounter case like when the company offer you the job, it also offer you higher salary than your expected salary, more SGD 100 like tat. is this possible?

FYI, this person just a fresh grad with average grade.

Maybe they have diff qouta to fill? SGD3k can get EP...under that its S-pass....

thanks for the reply , after reading those , i got a clearer picture now .

i m currently doing my internship at malaysia .

i know of a case like that.
and it is way higher than the written expected salary.

most likely the company have a structural pay scale (min and max) for each group/position and you expected salary is below the min for your position. So bump it up to hit the min in that group ?

Oh? the quota is for foreigner one? So nice...haha

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Added on June 13, 2012, 10:27 amHow higher? >300 ?? why it happen??

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Added on June 13, 2012, 10:28 amHmm..
I only think that we, as foreigner alway kena press one, never think of can get higher than expected...so nice leh if all company like tat

This post has been edited by yhoong12: Jun 13 2012, 10:28 AM

coz local will ask for higher than 3K plus ...so might as well give to cheaper foreightners
take me for an e.g....much lower
huah u huahau

not really, at least not for big companies. You could always check with your HR on the pay structure for each group.

Oo...they do have this pay structure, but will they let us know? coz i tot salary or pay this kind of thing is confidential, onli accessible by manager and above?

[quote=yhoong12,Jun 13 2012, 10:26 AM]
Oh? the quota is for foreigner one? So nice...haha

Qouta for number of S-Pass and EP specifically i think...not the $$

a lot higher...lets just say it is a totally not normal range (very much way off the scale) for a fresh grad
why? i suppose too specific which in turn means u are stuck in that job forever cause unable to transfer skillset outside of the company.

hmm..what kind of skillset cannot be transfer? then when he going to change job, is just another fresh grad, ppl will still accept it due to the high paid...if the increment is good,well i guess accepting the offer is still the correct decision?

As Mackiddo said... pay structure. For the global MNCs I've experienced, if you are hired into a certain job level, you get paid the salary for that job level - even if you stated a lower expected salary.

The reason is that you will find sooner or later from your colleagues if you're being paid equitably for your job level.

And sometimes, I come across some candidates who are simply 'unaware' of what they are worth (in terms of the job level/salary expected, given the responsibilities of the role). If they have a strong profile, I don't mind giving them a very pleasant surprise. I don't want them to get pissed off after they find out that their peers gets paid more than them. I think this builds a lot of trust and goodwill.

That means it all come back to MNC or local company. I thought the pay structure is fixed by the CEO, what i mean is the CEO will say "for each role, this is the max he/she can get, if can get lower the better."

Anyone heard of the company ServiceSource?

yeaps.. coz the person doesnt contribute to cpf

welcome... oh, in msia...

Apple is the best company, no point comparing Apple with other company, unless you are talking about EM, then different story.
Those company like Service source i bet they are outsource company. Outsource are usually lower interms of pay grade and workload is very high.

in malaysia starting for audit also around 2500 ,

in singapore also around that, why not go there .


imo lah. and their foods are quite cheap , just rental a little bit exp .

mid-tier in SG should be paying around S$2.3k-2.4k for a fresh graduate. big 4 10-20% more whereas small firm 10-20% lesser.