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 [REVIEW] HiFiMan HE-500, The 'user-friendly' planar mag headphone

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hongrui
post Jun 5 2012, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Ban-kun @ Jun 5 2012, 07:24 PM)
the 5LE was hooked into a govibe portatube when I auditioned it. So yeah.
Although for some reason the T1 paired with the portatube was actually very nice.
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The portatube doesn't even remotely have the sort of driving power the 5LE requires. Hence the sucked out mids and treble.

Generally beyers plus tubes equals match made in heaven, if you think the T1 goes well with the portatube, wait till you hear it sing with a proper tube amp.
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post Jun 6 2012, 05:23 AM

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QUOTE(Ban-kun @ Jun 5 2012, 09:54 PM)
Unless you wear headphones 8 hours a day for a living, chances are you won't be affected.
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i already have a few occasions wearing over 8-10 hours, if you even count the few times i fell asleep with my headphones, thats over 10 hours already lol.
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post Jun 6 2012, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(hongrui @ Jun 5 2012, 09:59 PM)
The portatube doesn't even remotely have the sort of driving power the 5LE requires. Hence the sucked out mids and treble.

Generally beyers plus tubes equals match made in heaven, if you think the T1 goes well with the portatube, wait till you hear it sing with a proper tube amp.
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Actually they had some sort of external sound card hooked up before this, some Asus Sonar card, didn't impress me either, lots of microphonic and static noise.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 6 2012, 05:23 AM)
i already have a few occasions wearing over 8-10 hours, if you even count the few times i fell asleep with my headphones, thats over 10 hours already lol.
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Have you tried Grado/Alessandro headphones? The feel like air on your head, especially with the oversized bowl earpads and their relatively lightweight and minimalistic look.

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post Jun 6 2012, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(Ban-kun @ Jun 6 2012, 09:07 PM)
Actually they had some sort of external sound card hooked up before this, some Asus Sonar card, didn't impress me either, lots of microphonic and static noise.
Have you tried Grado/Alessandro headphones? The feel like air on your head, especially with the oversized bowl earpads and their relatively lightweight and minimalistic look.
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i've tried both Grado/Alessandro headphones and listening to rock on the grado (or even alessandro if you prefer to have it not so forward) is always a bliss. that said, AT's coloration on mid/female vocals are a notch better than the americans. weight/comfort wise grado materials are either metal or solid plastic, which yes, more weight as opposed to AT's generally magnesium casing (at least for the mid range and above, though yeah more expensive)

i havent personally worn the grado/Alessandro for the length i've worn my AT AD900, so opinions are definitely going to be biased, however for time i get to auditioned with them, i still prefer the lesser head/hair contact 3D wing design by AT. albeit if you're not used to it or you're having "non-mainstream/standard" head shape/size, then the design maybe too tight or too loose for you.

that said, the wood modded (was it sr60?) grado that akabane has is imho the best bass reproduction headphones i've EVER heard. no matter it being bass quality, quantity, slam/depth, refinement/finease, everything. i've never heard bass so well done on a headphone as that grado.

the last time i've heard it at penang the driver was "loosened" from the intense "bass auditioning" (i am assuming that it's the most likely root cause) so i am not sure if akabane repaired the headphones or not. if he got it repaired and got the time to arrange and what not, i'd highly recommend bringing anything bassy and give it a go. either the govibe peak or ALO RX MK3 would be the best amp pairing. (havent experienced anything better, as from the top of my head almost every audiophile around LYN cant give a rat's ass about low frequencies/bass lulz oh and shoutout to sheenho's pro700mk2 thumbup.gif )
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post Jun 6 2012, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 6 2012, 10:09 PM)
i've tried both Grado/Alessandro headphones and listening to rock on the grado (or even alessandro if you prefer to have it not so forward) is always a bliss. that said, AT's coloration on mid/female vocals are a notch better than the americans. weight/comfort wise grado materials are either metal or solid plastic, which yes, more weight as opposed to AT's generally magnesium casing (at least for the mid range and above, though yeah more expensive)

i havent personally worn the grado/Alessandro for the length i've worn my AT AD900, so opinions are definitely going to be biased, however for time i get to auditioned with them, i still prefer the lesser head/hair contact 3D wing design by AT. albeit if you're not used to it or you're having "non-mainstream/standard" head shape/size, then the design maybe too tight or too loose for you.

that said, the wood modded (was it sr60?) grado that akabane has is imho the best bass reproduction headphones i've EVER heard. no matter it being bass quality, quantity, slam/depth, refinement/finease, everything. i've never heard bass so well done on a headphone as that grado.

the last time i've heard it at penang the driver was "loosened" from the intense "bass auditioning" (i am assuming that it's the most likely root cause) so i am not sure if akabane repaired the headphones or not. if he got it repaired and got the time to arrange and what not, i'd highly recommend bringing anything bassy and give it a go. either the govibe peak or ALO RX MK3 would be the best amp pairing. (havent experienced anything better, as from the top of my head almost every audiophile around LYN cant give a rat's ass about low frequencies/bass lulz oh and shoutout to sheenho's pro700mk2  thumbup.gif )
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It's Alessandro MSW1k? I have listened to it before, if any of you like MS1i, you're going to like that headphone very-very much. It's a whole new level. smile.gif

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post Jun 6 2012, 10:19 PM

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Just a few more pics. I think someone here requested I posted my desktop setups. Here's one with the HE-500 and the AH-D5000 with my Asgard + Bifrost.

I noticed my all my headphones' models have the number '5' in them, as with my ATH-M50. Pure coincidence...?


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QUOTE(Iqbal_kakashi @ Jun 6 2012, 10:18 PM)
It's Alessandro MSW1k? I have listened to it before, if any of you like MS1i, you're going to like that headphone very-very much. It's a whole new level. smile.gif
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i think so. my memory's pretty piss poor at times so it can't be helped >_<
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post Jun 15 2012, 02:55 PM

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Good lo finally got HE500 kaki.
Surrounding fren all Beyer T1 kaki lol.

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post Jun 16 2012, 03:22 AM

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QUOTE(mclee0427 @ Jun 15 2012, 02:55 PM)

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Nice headphone stand man~
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post Jun 16 2012, 06:05 AM

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From my experience with the HE6 and the HE500... I would say that the HE6 and the HE500 sound somewhat similar but the bass quality on the HE6 cannot be matched by the HE500. As I compared both, and I would say that the HE500 sounds like a HE6 but something is just limiting the 500 from performing like the 6. It just doesn't dish out that final bit of performance of the 6. I would say that the HE500 is maybe about 70% of the HE6. But the HE6 is a real pain to drive and I think that is the main reason why people don't really buy it much..
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post Jun 16 2012, 10:56 AM

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Exactly mate. He6 is better but on the other hand it is power hunger.
Even the eargasm doesnt drive he6 but it drives he500 perfectly.
With the eargasm combo I would say he500 is more pleasure to listen to.
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post Jun 16 2012, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(joshuachew @ Jun 16 2012, 06:05 AM)
From my experience with the HE6 and the HE500... I would say that the HE6 and the HE500 sound somewhat similar but the bass quality on the HE6 cannot be matched by the HE500. As I compared both, and I would say that the HE500 sounds like a HE6 but something is just limiting the 500 from performing like the 6. It just doesn't dish out that final bit of performance of the 6. I would say that the HE500 is maybe about 70% of the HE6. But the HE6 is a real pain to drive and I think that is the main reason why people don't really buy it much..
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In terms of actual application, the HE-500 would be more realistically plausible compared to the HE-6.
No point in grabbing a headphone to find that your amp has no power in driving it to its fullest. If you're buying the HE-6 and just get about 50-50 chance of swinging its fidelity, you might as well get the HE-500 and realize 70-80% of what the HE-6 can do.
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post Jun 16 2012, 02:00 PM

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Well unless, you plan to build a rig around the HE-6... then that'll be ok...
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post Jun 16 2012, 07:39 PM

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Well if wanna build a rig around he6, it is not cheap to invest on the amp.
Lyr? I have not listened to the combo but some of headfier still claim it to be under power.
Ef6? Well usd1599 now on head direct.
Or darkstar / liquid fire? The price itself can buy another 2 he6. Hehe.
Output directly from integrated amp/avr speaker post? So far I have tried on 1 integrated amp and 1 avr, got the full power, but the sound is not coherent.
Not to mention about the mobility, and connect to portable rig is nearly impossible.
Just my humble opinion, dont flame me hehe.

Yeah it is that good, I wish I could afford it one day, with the pairing amp.
Or lcd3 with cheaper amp will also do the trick. tongue.gif

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post Jun 16 2012, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(Ban-kun @ Jun 6 2012, 10:19 PM)
Just a few more pics. I think someone here requested I posted my desktop setups. Here's one with the HE-500 and the AH-D5000 with my Asgard + Bifrost.
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http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/07/banned-at-head-fi.html
Hi bro i saw NwAvGuy said this~ is it only Asgard got problem with the AKG's headphone~
so far its doing fine with your headphone?
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post Jun 17 2012, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(mclee0427 @ Jun 16 2012, 07:39 PM)
Well if wanna build a rig around he6, it is not cheap to invest on the amp.
Lyr? I have not listened to the combo but some of headfier still claim it to be under power.
Ef6? Well usd1599 now on head direct.
Or darkstar / liquid fire? The price itself can buy another 2 he6. Hehe.
Output directly from integrated amp/avr speaker post? So far I have tried on 1 integrated amp and 1 avr, got the full power, but the sound is not coherent.
Not to mention about the mobility, and connect to portable rig is nearly impossible.
Just my humble opinion, dont flame me hehe.

Yeah it is that good, I wish I could afford it one day, with the pairing amp.
Or lcd3 with cheaper amp will also do the trick.  tongue.gif
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What do u means by not coherent when drive by speaker amp?
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post Jun 17 2012, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(TarePanda @ Jun 17 2012, 12:42 AM)
What do u means by not coherent when drive by speaker amp?
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It means as in the left channel and right channel are not connected, the vocal/instruments that are supposed to focus in center position disperse and separate over the entire horizontal imaging.
To me it just sounds weird. Well so far I have only tried on 1 speaker amp and 1 AVR. There could be other amps working well with HE6 possibly.

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QUOTE(Alex05187 @ Jun 16 2012, 11:50 PM)
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/07/banned-at-head-fi.html
Hi bro i saw NwAvGuy said this~ is it only Asgard got problem with the AKG's headphone~
so far its doing fine with your headphone?
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They already rectified the problem by installing a muting relay in their future Asgard units.
propf is using it with his AKG and so far he hasn't blown his headphones yet.
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post Jun 17 2012, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(mclee0427 @ Jun 17 2012, 01:12 AM)
It means as in the left channel and right channel are not connected, the vocal/instruments that are supposed to focus in center position disperse and separate over the entire horizontal imaging.
To me it just sounds weird. Well so far I have only tried on 1 speaker amp and 1 AVR. There could be other amps working well with HE6 possibly.
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The speaker amp you were referring to was on my set up from that day?
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post Jun 17 2012, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(joshuachew @ Jun 17 2012, 10:44 AM)
The speaker amp you were referring to was on my set up from that day?
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Yes, from both our setups. I also tried with he500 and got the same result.
Really thanks for arranging the meet up, had fun that day.
So see you again on next weekend smile.gif

Btw, I just got my he500 back from China, waited for 2 months plus.
They sent me back a new unit. biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by mclee0427: Jun 17 2012, 12:11 PM

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