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 Diablo III v10, EVIL IS BACK! BLIZZARD IS CRAP!

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yuhhaur
post Jun 7 2012, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 7 2012, 11:23 AM)
foc?? 200 gold?? i dun have coins
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Erm... u go check the market value @ AH, i give you 30% discount on this.

drop me a pm. I ofis nao, no access to AH
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post Jun 7 2012, 11:28 AM

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^ok.. wait i finish watch okc vs spurs. mch okc won west side! i go check now..


Added on June 7, 2012, 11:31 amy i can't login?? who hacked me??? just now my account being blocked???

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post Jun 7 2012, 11:37 AM

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errrr
i sadding cant kill magha the facking butterfly


ok i try hit a bit go hide the come out again sweat.gif

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tl:dr; Why do ranged do more damage than melee, when melee have much less uptime and much more risk?

Can you please explain/reconcile the disparity between melee and ranged in this game? You've given ranged by far the most DPS, while they're in danger the least. It would seem that since melee are the most at risk, they should have the most reward, DPS wise. Instead, I have to close the gap on my enemies and then do far less damage to them. It's particularly noticeable in group play, where I will be attacking a monster for 30 seconds, until a wizard or DH shows up and drops it in 3. Melee in group play is embarrassing. If you're a good player, you realize you can't do much against the barrage of affixes on elites, so you hang back with the ranged and do nothing. If you're a bad player, you try to kill the elites and die repeatedly. Either way, it's just straight embarrassing to take part in. I've lost in-game friends because they've told me it'd be easier with another class, and they just stop inviting me, or accepting invites.

The affixes on elites also heavily favor range, with most affixes requiring melee to leave DPS range, and simply run around waiting them out. Ranged can still DPS while this is going on. Things like mortar, which are supposed to be a ranged problem, are actually a melee problem too because you have mobs separated and one ends up mortaring right on you. If you try to run out, the others mortar you. Most every affix, save maybe fast and damage reflect, is just as deadly or more deadly for melee.

So much of a melee's passives/skills/runes are set to defensive abilities, that it feels like I'm not actually playing a dynamic class, just trying to throw percentages at an enemy to see if I come out on top.

Even in your recent Patch 1.0.3 preview you say:

"If a monk or barbarian is geared well enough that they can use a heavily offensive build and murder everything in Act I, they should be able to swap to a more defensive build and do okay in Act II. As they gear up they can begin adjusting back to becoming offensive in Act II, at which point they can jump into Act III with a focus on defense, and so on."

Why does melee have to "earn" it's chosen offensive play style, whereas ranged has that option from the start? Why do I have to suffer thru a defensive build that is less fun to play in order to earn an offensive build? You implicitly admit in that post that an offensive build is melee's goal: why do you choose to hinder this goal on Monk and Barb, but not on ranged? And then, when we do get that offensive style, it's still less effective than a ranged class? You give ranged classes great damage avoidance abilities--Mirror Image is particularly ridiculous--but you give melee classes percentage shifters: more dodge, less damage, more armor. And again, I do far less damage than the ranged classes, yet I'm tanking with my face. For one instance, look at the damage difference between say Earth Ally and Venom Hydra. It's also not a good sign when you have to stop and actually calculate if Tyrael is doing more DPS than you.

I just can't reconcile the fact that I take much more abuse, and dish out much less than ranged classes. Can you please explain your thinking behind this decision?
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post Jun 7 2012, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(tlts @ Jun 7 2012, 12:37 PM)
errrr
i sadding cant kill magha the facking butterfly
ok i try hit a bit go hide the come out again sweat.gif
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how do u think guys?? at nightmare!


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post Jun 7 2012, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 7 2012, 11:49 AM)
how do u think guys?? at nightmare!
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Show a bit more on your other attributes/stats...

Overall your DPS should be fine handling in nightmare
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post Jun 7 2012, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(3ternal @ Jun 7 2012, 12:54 PM)
Show a bit more on your other attributes/stats...

Overall your DPS should be fine handling in nightmare
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post Jun 7 2012, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 7 2012, 11:57 AM)

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up dmg n vitality.........

melee hero require.............

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post Jun 7 2012, 12:02 PM

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damage not high enough meh?? now me at highland passage.. y the tower din unlocked? lyceum at there right??
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post Jun 7 2012, 12:03 PM

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dmg still ok for NM.
health low due to low VIT.
low dodge chance of Barb making you easily get hit by mobs, and low health = easy die, as barb always tank infront.


Added on June 7, 2012, 12:05 pmok wa u got 118k gold, can shop kau kau @ AH looking for stuff <5000/pc.


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post Jun 7 2012, 12:06 PM

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i think dps, armor, aps , dex still acceptable dodge quite low.. just notice..

my fury 105 low anot?? relentless, weapons master, ruthless


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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jun 7 2012, 01:03 PM)
dmg still ok for NM.
health low due to low VIT.
low dodge chance of Barb making you easily get hit by mobs, and low health = easy die, as barb always tank infront.


Added on June 7, 2012, 12:05 pmok wa u got 118k gold, can shop kau kau @ AH looking for stuff <5000/pc.
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b4 that i got 150k++ i keep dead & repair gears + up lvl for artisan..

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post Jun 7 2012, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 7 2012, 12:06 PM)
i think dps, armor, aps , dex still acceptable dodge quite low.. just notice..

my fury 105 low anot?? relentless, weapons master, ruthless


Added on June 7, 2012, 12:06 pm
b4 that i got 150k++ i keep dead & repair gears + up lvl for artisan..
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My guess u spend a lot of gold lvling up ur blacksmith?
At this point lvling up ur artisan is not so good..go AH and get some decent armor if u are still having difficulty surviving...

For a Barb...more importantly get vit gears + better armor...your dmg reduce % not high enuf...i guess your equipment all lvl 20+ items?

Or you can use kitting techniques if you don't wan to invest more on equipment tongue.gif

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post Jun 7 2012, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 7 2012, 12:02 PM)
damage not high enough meh?? now me at highland passage.. y the tower din unlocked? lyceum at there right??
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ur HP is way too low and furthermore barb don't have high dodge like monk...
so i would say u are 80% sure die...better pump more hp...
dmg is decent but it wouldn't do any good if u die before u can hit smile.gif
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post Jun 7 2012, 12:21 PM

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ya only 2 sword & boot r lvl 30.. the rest r lvl 2x i really dun1 invest on equipment.. wanna farm myself.. brows.gif


Added on June 7, 2012, 12:22 pm
QUOTE(aLertz @ Jun 7 2012, 01:21 PM)
ur HP is way too low and furthermore barb don't have high dodge like monk...
so i would say u are 80% sure die...better pump more hp...
dmg is decent but it wouldn't do any good if u die before u can hit  smile.gif
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pump vit 4096!

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post Jun 7 2012, 12:23 PM

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is diablo server having problem now? It keep hang inside then disconnected. doh.gif
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post Jun 7 2012, 12:23 PM

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no hang but i dead cos kena rape again at agony !
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post Jun 7 2012, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 7 2012, 12:21 PM)
ya only 2 sword & boot r lvl 30.. the rest r lvl 2x i really dun1 invest on equipment.. wanna farm myself.. brows.gif


Added on June 7, 2012, 12:22 pm
pump vit 4096!
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Pump more on vit/armor. My monk already 8k in Nightmare around lvl 39. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 7 2012, 12:21 PM)
ya only 2 sword & boot r lvl 30.. the rest r lvl 2x i really dun1 invest on equipment.. wanna farm myself.. brows.gif


Added on June 7, 2012, 12:22 pm
pump vit 4096!
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Quite hard to farm for your own. At least get some high dmg item in AH.

Or maybe you can hire a follower. LOL
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me lvl 40.. 4k hp armor i got 6k when use leap skill

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