this thread still on going? im amazed...

if you are really want to find out about LICT/ LUCT, go talk to someone graduated from there. don't just use excuses like "my friend said...", "my friend told me..." & "i heard...". Don't Assume. Prove it with facts & research

waht u amazed about?

Maybe but I doubt it, due to the nature of the lecturer who taught the subject. (plus the fact that the same thing happened to my former classmates)

If any of you former/current LKW students are wondering about the identity of the said lecturer...

It's Kamal, the part time lecturer notorious for his poor command of English.
IIRC, he left LKW when the campus moved to Cyberjaya.


Anyways, if you want more juicy, so called gossips and all, go here:

http://limkokwing.blogspot.com/


Former/current LKW students are behind this site.

Happy reading!

Edited by Geminist: Unnecessary contents removed.

This post has been edited by Geminist: Feb 8 2006, 03:13 AM

Aiyo, all of you are like 3 year olds. You had a bad experience at LICT so boo-hoo la, if you actually read behind limkokwing.blogspot.com all he wanted to do is flame every single thing that lict is doing.
I dont see any problem with that but i do find it particularly funny that even though he doesnt like limkokwing one bit he wishes to study there for over 2 years? A person who complained so much about administration and our bursary as well as our student services but lack any real balls and maturity to start a petition or do anything productive in lict.

Of course its easier to b**** about a place and pick and point every single mistake of a place then it is easier to actually do something about the problem isnt it? What all these people are doing is just adding more to the problem cuz from my own personal understanding i find it hilarious that all these limkokwing students who hate the school still study there? Then either go and come up with solutions or go to another college, if you can afford limkokwing i'm sure you can afford cenfad or the One.

And just let me ask la.. all thse people who spend such precious amount of time on friendster and anonymous names on blogspots flaming people are the exact kind of people are being productive in school and society right? I mean after all they are doing alot... they b**** in a friendster account which no lict staff will read and definitely helps more than the person who sued lict over an issue of pushing a semester forward and winning the case.
No wonder I see geniuses are the people who do all the b****ing and complaining 24/7 and do nothing. Excuse me for my sarcasm but I've put up with so long with people who love to b**** about a place they study but do not participate in anything that helps make the college better. After all you are paying your fees, you can start a club, you can form a petition by students and parents, write to bloody newspapers and go to MPs or watever... no.. but i think i should sit behind my PC and say "lict sux"..

nuff said.

they cannot start a petition because they hardly go to school until they dont even know where to start doing a petition

LUCT Problem is

1) Hired early graduates to work for them
2) Lecturers are not good teachers . Teaching is just a hobby for them , non are serious.
3) Marketing people cooks broth not rice bowl. Many students fell shortchange after enrolling.
4) Rich students and glamour is all about this college. If your appearance and beauty is in you, you are talented..period.
5) too expensive, my friends came back from NZ n Aust said the fees are slightly more but the exposure and quality is so great as compare to LUCT.

summary: after SPM...fly straight to overseas and you never regret it.

Caution: Advertisement on newspaper is not 100% true. Forum is the ear to your mind.

This is the BEST EVER ADVICE you can get.. Don't have to ask or hit around bushes anymore in your mind. Fly OUT..

EDUCATION in OVERSEAS IS ABOUT EXPERIENCE .. KNOWLEDGE IS SECONDARY.
PERSONALITY AND INNER CONFIDENCE IS DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP. EXPAND YOUR HORION IN OTHER COUNTRIES>

it summarized, find yr own cup of tea, no point bashing ppl's collegue or university

there are lots of colleges and university that are with pro's and con's..

First of all I would like to ask do you study at limkokwing or have you heard marvelous gossips about the place from so and so.

Lecturers are not good teachers and teaching is just a hobby for them? If you've had a bad experience with some lecturers why haven't u formed a complaint? Or why not change lecturers by forming a petition, thats what my class and I did because we found the lecturer bias. Overall I can say my lectruers are engaging, intelligent quite strict but helpful. Its the system of the school that has to change la, the administration and the payment (bursary) is in such a mess.

Are you trying to insult all of us with your stupid stereotype analysis that all of us are rich and glamourous? Mind you I might be so damn rich thats why i take the bus from kota raya to go to school everyday and so do alot of other people. Appearences and beauty defines talented, which school or juicy gossip did you get that from, from your sources obviously your not very smart are you? If we are all so talented why is there over 80,000 unemployed graduates and a high number of them is IT students and Design students. Please give us some substantial facts instead of statements with little impact or evidence.

Education overseas is experience? Why dont you create your own experience through internships or working in design studios or freelance during your holidays?

Limkokwing might have alot of potholes in alot of places and alot of problems with administration and payment, but do realise there are alot of people who are studying there to get their Degrees and it is far cheaper then going overseas because of the exchange rate (Aussie .. please convert the exchange rate.. places like RMIT and Curtin is how much? You think we dont know the figures already is it?). So eventhough I'm studying there now and there is problems I want to find solutions to solve them and the least thing we need is people talking about juicy gossips.

I would like to ask how does a rich student and glamorous student affect your studying? What relevance is there to wat ur saying to studying there? You get easily influenced or left out because of them and they affect your studies?
Please la omg.. give us some substantial information e.g "lict got sued by students due to a problem in the hair programme"... not some stupid things about rich datuks and juicy gossips.

Doesnt anyone ever get tired of constantly coming in here to post more stupid and irrelevant information about rich kids and more juicy gossips?

is nada representing LKW? seriously i graduated from LKW in yr 2003. Did EDM there which stands for Electronic Design and Multimedia and all i can say is ... i've learned nothing there. complain about lecturer who are not up to the standard? did that ... in fact the whole class agreed to file a complain and guess what? nothing happened! ... no point bringing up all the LKW mess again.

Sometimes i feel reluctant to "flame" LKW as i graduated there any by flaming LKW, it will in fact harm my prospect during job interviews ... tho LKW's brand power is no longer a pride anymore ... but if i just keep quiet and pretend if there's nothing wrong with LKW ... lots of innocent ppl are goin to end up there and 60 - 70% of them will most likely change college and wasted their time and money while learning/realizing the hard facts of endless negative things below the glittering "surface".

Infact, i'm did feel very guilty for introducing some of my secondary sch juniors to LKW after their SPMs ... for the sake of earning some 400 bucks per person if any of them are enrolled. I sincerely feel sorry for them as 2 out of the 4 dropped out due to the unreasonably high sch fees(which u learn nothing in return).

I myself nearly went to T.O.A or some other design colleges when i know i'm actually spending my parents' hard-earned money on the fee that doesn't reflect on the value i get. My parents were not able to support me if i were to change college and start all over again, (other colleges does not recognize LKW standard, i would have to start from foundation again at a new college ). If given the chance to change college then, I will not hesitate to grab the opportunity.

So my advice to those budding designers, the most important thing when u go for a job interview will be your portfolio. Not your certificates. Most will not even ask to see your certs, instead ... a good portfolio will land u the job. The industry does not judge based on the fee u paid the get ur certs, instead, its ur skill that counts. So go online and look for tutorials.

1st of all I dont represent Limkokwing, but I get irritated when people say "that place is full of rich kids la all datuks sons with no talent", what is your insane problem with this issue?

The problem is lies in the students as much as the college or university... the students have the power to change certain things in their environment if they have the determination, maturity and knowledge to do so. It isnt just "Oh we all should complain....", but the way you go around doing it. Just look at our 80,000 unemployed graduates where 1/3 are from the design/IT sector.

The problem with design students is a million problems. They make life complicated and hard for themselves.

As much as a place or an environment is a problem do students take part in getting involved not just in their educational environment but later in society? Are they intelligent not just to question but ask intelligent and relevant questions that make them more knowledgable? Are they able to find internships or information on their own?

True that overseas provide more 'experience' than malaysia, but a large number of us cant afford to fly to US, england or australia to study there. So when we study here we make do with what we have. If you dont like what is happening in your environment then change it... Go read TheEdge magazine and see what the students did when they didn't agree with what was happening with their colleges.

As said earlier... u can only get so much from an insititution and limkokwing has quite a few problems.. but when you say that you are who you are because of lict .. then your not taking responsiblites.

You think in malaysia design schools that they are 100% interested in teaching us? Please la.. design schools are the new money making machines. Schools dont teach practical and the business side of design.. as well as marketing strategies and branding ones self. Our unemployed graduates is because of the 'spoon - feeding' mentality of students and also because they choose to be exploited. You are only exploited if you choose to be la.

So lets associate that your in this 'problematic environment', will you either adapt to it or just continue moaning through-out your 3 years there?

Yea la alot of us got fooled by Lict... so we tell others about it.. but going to such extreme points of foul mouthing until we just think why do i study there?
After all lict is not a cheap school and im sure u could afford other ones... other than theONE academy there is plentiful of other design schools... why not go there instead?

Edited by Geminist: Double posts merged

This post has been edited by Geminist: Feb 10 2006, 12:53 AM

just went thru LUCT today,new big banners have been put on the wall.it says
something like

LIMKOKWING EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP - THE EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP THAT TAKES YOU TO THE TOP

actually dun understand that,maybe the word is wrong,couldn't remember much..

btw,i respect LUCT marketing strategies,it looks cool.THE MOST INNOVATIVE DEGREE,THE BEST DESIGN COLLEGE

can i ask something?
how does one teaches art?

if the students do not have the desire to learn, or worst... talent... forget about joining any of the art colleges... let alone LUCT.

lecturers do not teach?
how can one teaches you how to draw if you DIDNT GO AND DO PRACTISE like what the lecturers have suggested you to do.

for those who said they learn nothing... well... blame yourself for it. the desire to learn is from nobody but yourself... it seems like you are not up for it.

there's so much to learn. well if u know who to learn from lar...

lecturer is human also mar... dun expect them to be teach u all they know within the mere 3-4hr daily class. U have to show your positive learning attitude. they're there to guide you, not spoon-feeding u. there's so many available information out there. you should be research about it. not sure about the practical, ask. And this is the best way of learning (i think). lecturer are there to guide you because they have expereince that you don't. Sometimes you might know more than them on certain subject. So it's always a two way learning

nada..nada.. poor chap..

you are a staff in LUCT right..



Our 80,000 unemployed graduates..gotcha. Don't be biased when making comment. Im just providing a Feedback.. YOu may provide a Feedback but calling people making stupid statement is ridiculeous.

Im from LUCT and my statements are Facts. You want Facts , this is Fact. What else do you need.. You want me to name some of the lecturer name here.. I can post it up but we have to respect them . How 's Grace..

i do agree with the fact that luct do employ early grads...

but i dont agree with the fact that the lecturers are not a good teacher. well, maybe some of them are so lame that even they make a sloth looks like a cheetah but...

you do have to remember this, at the end of the day... the cert belongs to you... so, it's up to you to give it an extra mile in running... most of the lecturers are tied up with industrial projects and some of them are even working in an agency.

so, you, as a student have to work particularly harder in order to learn something extra... the lecturers have no time to lullaby you. and dont spend too much time in lepaking at the makan-lah

Before you make urself look dumb please refrain yourself. Are you trying to threaten me to exposing lecturers name here? I'm a student from GD sem 6 and I dont support lict or agree with many of its ways, but i dont make everything that is a problem an excuse for me or for others to not do well. Who the hell is Grace btw? I dont know every single lecturer in lict. You talk about respecting the lecturers? , please read your own comment and see what you said. My fair share of lecturers have been very good and the ones that have done a crap job I wrote a petition and we changed teacher. I even wrote a petition to make the bus prices lower when they instilled it last time 100RM per month to everyone. I got over 800 student names and a large student body to disagree with this. What are you doing to fix the problems? You have a solution as well what,.. you can leave and go to other colleges? No one is forcing you to study lict and its an expensive school after all... go take where you money is worth.

Such things as you said regarding bursary and student services I said do such a botched up job every single time and of course I can see how being rich and glamourous is maybe an essential for you to study at such a place but how relevant is it to a person wanting to study there? I can clearly see from your writing your not a very intelligent student and your problem is that you want to blame everything on all the problems in lict. As I said have you started any petitions from students or parents? Gone to the malay mail or sued lict if its such a horrendous school? And my last question is if you can well afford lict and it is so shit as you say why not move to cenfad? or MIA? or theONE? I love how people can complain in a situation when they have choices but they choose to be oblivious and play the 'distraught victim.
You are one of those students who in particular probably b**** about lict 24/7 but has done completely nothing at all to make it slightly better... not for LICT... but for yourself.

sigh! nada... dont bother about them lah. they have their point of view. and it's their lost of not being able to understand what higher education is all about.

next week school starts liao leh by the way!

Well the evil had spoken, must i say much. This is the attitude and the numbness of the spoiled student in LUCT. Im not saying all but this particular one is a beacht!
Emotionally driven and an extremist that sparks her own hair.

give her a paper to draw will you!. I wonder if she can draw. Grace? Who is she? A phantom ? Gotcha!

This post has been edited by hackwire: Feb 13 2006, 12:52 PM

O...

I got a 60% tuition fee waiver from LUCT...and i gotta confirm very fast or they'll "give the scholarship to someone else"...this means i dun even got chance to apply other scholarships leh...but 60% is quite alot la... so getting it makes me even more in a dilemma...total fees to pay for 4 years in BA(Hons) Animation(my selected course) is abt 30k, including resource fee, which is ridiculously high...1k per yr!?

so...do u guys think the 4yrs' worth the price? N i've got problems wif the no-lecturer-in-class and workload-too-light i've heard...izzit true or happens how often? Or is the lecturer always change?

and one more thing...is the animation course at LUCT good? I know TOA and dasein are more often-spoke of when it comes to animation...how bout LUCT?

This post has been edited by zhaomeng: Mar 7 2006, 04:32 PM