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post May 29 2012, 10:16 PM, updated 14y ago

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There is alot F2P online game with Cash Item Mall, the only way you beat the game = buy the premium in game item.

Diablo 3 is NOT F2P. So, Blizzard cannot FORCE Player to spend more cash on in-game item.

But Diablo 2 reminded Blizzard, in-game item worth alot money.

I dont know which bulsit come out this beautiful idea of RMAH, which allowed blizzard :
1) [Officially] Make 15% profit of every in-game item trading.
2) [Unofficially] Blizzard Staff post in-game item and sold it for CASH for blizzard. ( 100% profit )

To make this idea even Prettier.

the Inferior Mode, ops sorry. Inferno Mode

Feeling hard, already die 2000 times by elite? SHOP RMAH for Godlike Item please!!

Blizzard = You not the Best Game Maker Now, but Your Money Sucking Skill TOP the industry.

USD59.99 for Login Diablo 3
another USDXXX.XX for beating Diablo 3???
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post May 29 2012, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 29 2012, 10:16 PM)
There is alot F2P online game with Cash Item Mall, the only way you beat the game = buy the premium in game item.

Diablo 3 is NOT F2P. So, Blizzard cannot FORCE Player to spend more cash on in-game item.

But Diablo 2 reminded Blizzard, in-game item worth alot money.

I dont know which bulsit come out this beautiful idea of RMAH, which allowed blizzard :
1) [Officially] Make 15% profit of every in-game item trading.
2) [Unofficially] Blizzard Staff post in-game item and sold it for CASH for blizzard. ( 100% profit )

To make this idea even Prettier.

the Inferior Mode, ops sorry. Inferno Mode

Feeling hard, already die 2000 times by elite? SHOP RMAH for Godlike Item please!!

Blizzard = You not the Best Game Maker Now, but Your Money Sucking Skill TOP the industry.

USD59.99 for Login Diablo 3
another USDXXX.XX for beating Diablo 3???
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naaahh..
without RMAH oso D3 is playable at Infernah~
i already inferno long time laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 29 2012, 10:16 PM)
There is alot F2P online game with Cash Item Mall, the only way you beat the game = buy the premium in game item.

Diablo 3 is NOT F2P. So, Blizzard cannot FORCE Player to spend more cash on in-game item.

But Diablo 2 reminded Blizzard, in-game item worth alot money.

I dont know which bulsit come out this beautiful idea of RMAH, which allowed blizzard :
1) [Officially] Make 15% profit of every in-game item trading.
2) [Unofficially] Blizzard Staff post in-game item and sold it for CASH for blizzard. ( 100% profit )

To make this idea even Prettier.

the Inferior Mode, ops sorry. Inferno Mode

Feeling hard, already die 2000 times by elite? SHOP RMAH for Godlike Item please!!

Blizzard = You not the Best Game Maker Now, but Your Money Sucking Skill TOP the industry.

USD59.99 for Login Diablo 3
another USDXXX.XX for beating Diablo 3???
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they dont force to play the game
don wan buy don buy..ez whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 29 2012, 10:16 PM)
There is alot F2P online game with Cash Item Mall, the only way you beat the game = buy the premium in game item.

Diablo 3 is NOT F2P. So, Blizzard cannot FORCE Player to spend more cash on in-game item.
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But Diablo 2 reminded Blizzard, in-game item worth alot money.

I dont know which bulsit come out this beautiful idea of RMAH, which allowed blizzard :
1) [Officially] Make 15% profit of every in-game item trading.
2) [Unofficially] Blizzard Staff post in-game item and sold it for CASH for blizzard. ( 100% profit )

To make this idea even Prettier.

the Inferior Mode, ops sorry. Inferno Mode

Feeling hard, already die 2000 times by elite? SHOP RMAH for Godlike Item please!!

Blizzard = You not the Best Game Maker Now, but Your Money Sucking Skill TOP the industry.

USD59.99 for Login Diablo 3
another USDXXX.XX for beating Diablo 3???
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only F2P game can have so called "cash item" system? furthermore, it is optional either real money or in-game currency, not FORCE...
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 29 2012, 10:19 PM)
naaahh..
without RMAH oso D3 is playable at Infernah~
i already inferno long time  laugh.gif
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Act?
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post May 29 2012, 10:26 PM

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You don't need RMAH to beat Inferno. Which difficulty are you in now? You probably need to find some party if the game is too hard for you.
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post May 29 2012, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin8810 @ May 29 2012, 10:25 PM)
only F2P game can have so called "cash item" system? furthermore, it is optional either real money or in-game currency, not FORCE...
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The name is still RMAH

Who can make sure the seller in rmah is NOT BLIZZARD IT SELF???
I meant you can sell something in RMAH. but the best, rarest item? you have? how much you have??


my MF ~ 200%, running butcher + act 2 every night. Drop only good blue, not GODLIKE sets, legendary, rare....

Blizzard can keep supply godlike ingame item as long as you want it. RMAH is the place they can make billion profit from D3 player again.

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post May 29 2012, 10:27 PM

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- The decision to sell the item in real money or gold is not Blizzard's decision, but the player

- Blizzard always releases overtuned content, then reduces the difficulty after gauging player progress

- If you happened to find a godly legendary item, would you yourself sell it for money?

- Inferno acts 2-4 were beaten before, or else the items would never appear in AH in the 1st place

- All upgrades and items are farmable, whereas in F2P they are exclusively cash

- Some LYN players already in Inferno Act 3-4

- You can choose not to buy from RMAH, you can choose not to buy Diablo

- Blizzard made many long presentations warning people Inferno would be insane (although deaths are by pure stat math rather than skill) before game came out

- Your mother
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dats wat u get for having Wow faggots made the game,
shud've been blizzard north
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 29 2012, 10:26 PM)
Act?
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3..
didn't do any progression since busy farming..
lol
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 29 2012, 10:27 PM)
The name is still RMAH

Who can make sure the seller in rmah is NOT BLIZZARD IT SELF???
I meant you can sell something in RMAH. but the best, rarest item? you have? how much you have??
my MF ~ 200%, running butcher + act 2 every night. Drop only good blue, not GODLIKE sets, legendary, rare....

Blizzard can keep supply godlike ingame item as long as you want it. RMAH is the place they can make billion profit from D3 player again.
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Did you try getting 5 valor buffs before killing the boss??
With just 5 valor buffs and without any MF, I always get 3-4 rares and 5-7 blues when killed just the warden, didn't even have to kill butcher. Out of the blue, I got a legendary.
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same rules applies, BUYING is YOUR own decision

ive seen this shit ALOT in ALL games that are based ONLINE

dont lose sight of the true value of playing a GAME

how you FINISH a game is up to YOU to decide

the game is doable without spending cash for items, stop QQ more pew pew
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QUOTE(kelvin8810 @ May 29 2012, 10:25 PM)
only F2P game can have so called "cash item" system? furthermore, it is optional either real money or in-game currency, not FORCE...
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gold farmers will buyout all the good items on GAH and sell for real money, FORCING ppl to spend REAL MONEY.
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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ May 29 2012, 10:48 PM)
gold farmers will buyout all the good items on GAH and sell for real money, FORCING ppl to spend REAL MONEY.
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this is the very 1st time mixed AH ever done in gaming history

i'm very very curious to see what's the outcome
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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ May 29 2012, 10:48 PM)
gold farmers will buyout all the good items on GAH and sell for real money, FORCING ppl to spend REAL MONEY.
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who cares man. GW2 is coming out.
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post May 29 2012, 11:01 PM

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>this thread

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post May 29 2012, 11:02 PM

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another rant thread because TS cant survive inferno.
/thread pls.
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If people can sell for real money, you can too. You can sell your godlike item for cash and use that cash for another item in AH.

About the debate whether Blizzard Staff will internally make some godlike items and sell it, I pretty much doubt it. Who would want to spoil their long term reputation for this kinda money ? Business is not a short term thing.
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I wouldn't worry about the RMAH.

They couldn't even get the f*cking GAH right.

It's probably one of, if not, THE WORST AUCTION HOUSES I HAVE EVER SEEN.
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QUOTE(radkliler @ May 29 2012, 11:07 PM)
I wouldn't worry about the RMAH.

They couldn't even get the f*cking GAH right.

It's probably one of, if not, THE WORST AUCTION HOUSES I HAVE EVER SEEN.
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im more worried to of using RMAH due to previous hacks..
wont know what hackers out there can do.. ohmy.gif
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RMAH is most likely for the PvP instead of Inferno

Or more likely for newer player to be instant strong in Inferno


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post May 30 2012, 01:25 AM

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^ this
The real value of RMAH is in PVP

RMAH is like Malaysia legalize gambling & make profit through 15% tax
but Blizzard needs some sort of mechanism to control the value of gold because print too much gold = end up like Zimbabwe inflation
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the 15% transaction fee is currently the only way to remove the gold from the game.... or was it 25% cant remember since there wasnt any banning... yet ; ;

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bro willing buyer, willing seller,, cheers man
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 29 2012, 10:16 PM)
2) [Unofficially] Blizzard Staff post in-game item and sold it for CASH for blizzard. ( 100% profit )
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how you know the items are posted by Blizz staff? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ May 30 2012, 10:12 AM)
how you know the items are posted by Blizz staff?  hmm.gif
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Pure speculation bro, pure speculation.
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 29 2012, 10:51 PM)
this is the very 1st time mixed AH ever done in gaming history

i'm very very curious to see what's the outcome
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i think u dont even need to see the outcome.. as it will be expected that AH will be damn farking quiet while all the items will be sold in RMAH.. that time player like me who dont spend extra cash except the game license key iteslf will forced to farm like hell just to get a better eq.. as always.. there is no win-win here.. only win for bliz.. as the RMAH n 15% tax implemented, what they need to do just sit down n monitor their bank acc.. the players will do their job by having transaction in RMAH.. brilliant move.. just another money sucking method.. n later on expansion ask for money again.. fuiyo.. cant imagine how many billion USD goin into bliz' acc..
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 29 2012, 10:27 PM)
The name is still RMAH

Who can make sure the seller in rmah is NOT BLIZZARD IT SELF???
I meant you can sell something in RMAH. but the best, rarest item? you have? how much you have??
my MF ~ 200%, running butcher + act 2 every night. Drop only good blue, not GODLIKE sets, legendary, rare....

Blizzard can keep supply godlike ingame item as long as you want it. RMAH is the place they can make billion profit from D3 player again.
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Do you know how many player are there in diablo 3??? million!! rclxub.gif

If you can't get good rare and legendary item it doesnt mean that other player cant get it too. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(strace @ May 30 2012, 01:25 AM)
but Blizzard needs some sort of mechanism to control the value of gold because print too much gold = end up like Zimbabwe inflation

Not enough gold sinks in this game. Bliz should have made it WoW-style Bind-On-Equip i.e. once you buy and equip an itamz you can't sell it on AH anymore.
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 29 2012, 10:16 PM)
There is alot F2P online game with Cash Item Mall, the only way you beat the game = buy the premium in game item.

Diablo 3 is NOT F2P. So, Blizzard cannot FORCE Player to spend more cash on in-game item.

But Diablo 2 reminded Blizzard, in-game item worth alot money.

I dont know which bulsit come out this beautiful idea of RMAH, which allowed blizzard :
1) [Officially] Make 15% profit of every in-game item trading.
2) [Unofficially] Blizzard Staff post in-game item and sold it for CASH for blizzard. ( 100% profit )

To make this idea even Prettier.

the Inferior Mode, ops sorry. Inferno Mode

Feeling hard, already die 2000 times by elite? SHOP RMAH for Godlike Item please!!

Blizzard = You not the Best Game Maker Now, but Your Money Sucking Skill TOP the industry.

USD59.99 for Login Diablo 3
another USDXXX.XX for beating Diablo 3???
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1. We do not know how much cost/effort they need to maintain this system. Not every cent they earned is net profit.
2. You might be right, but who cares? Any different for you, as a buyer, if the seller is actually Blizzard Staff?

Do a search on google, you will see there are already many farmers selling god like gears on their own “AH” with real money. If you see from this perspective, it doesn’t really matter if Blizzard has RMAH or not.

Put all these aside, we can actually ignore the AH, if we just want to focus on the gameplay. People will prob “forced” to buy from AH when PVP live, where ppl so kan cheong to own other player with advantages of gear.

I have not yet reached Inferno (still in Hell mode) but I think the difficulty level is OK. Otherwise, there will be other players complaining here saying finished all characters, in inferno mode in weeks, and ask for refund from Blizzard stating is not worth to spend the money for a game that only playable in weeks.

Anyway, 2 things I really hate are:

Online – Gosh, no problem to be an “online” single player game, but pls, the stability of the server is at an unacceptable level for a company that is running WOW for so many years (they should have expecting the worst and provide better turn around time)

User friendly of the AH – Compare to AH in WOW, D3 AH is like DOS compare to Windows. It is just too damn un user friendly. Not to mention the slowness.. well, maybe I am too used to WOW AH tongue.gif

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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ May 30 2012, 10:12 AM)
how you know the items are posted by Blizz staff?  hmm.gif
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blizzard made sure no one knows where the items come from.

i.e. dunno who selling those items one.
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oh btw if i want real balanced pvp i will go play guild wars 2.

diablo 3 just interested in the monetizing possibility.
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it's the players who abused 3rd party websites during D2 times that initiated the idea of RMAH anyway.. extra income for Blizz, less scams for players.. it's a win-win business after all

just don't spend if you hate the idea.. and don't be hypocrites selling off perfect stats rares on RMAH in the future
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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 30 2012, 01:01 PM)
it's the players who abused 3rd party websites during D2 times that initiated the idea of RMAH anyway.. extra income for Blizz, less scams for players.. it's a win-win business after all

just don't spend if you hate the idea.. and don't be hypocrites selling off perfect stats rares on RMAH in the future
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oh me no hypocrite.
problem is will i ever have a chance to find such godly items to sell on RMAH or AH etc.

maybe i will be good guy and try on AH for billions of gold instead.

then sell gold for real dollars.
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 30 2012, 01:07 PM)
oh me no hypocrite.
problem is will i ever have a chance to find such godly items to sell on RMAH or AH etc.

maybe i will be good guy and try on AH for billions of gold instead.

then sell gold for real dollars.
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same here.

items no selling well. better sell gold.
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 30 2012, 12:56 PM)
oh btw if i want real balanced pvp i will go play guild wars 2.

diablo 3 just interested in the monetizing possibility.
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True.. as GW is much balance.. the eq is non significant at all.. all have a fair game in pvp.. what does matter only the combo itself..
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QUOTE(jackiewong @ May 30 2012, 01:14 PM)
True.. as GW is much balance.. the eq is non significant at all.. all have a fair game in pvp.. what does matter only the combo itself..
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Guild Wars PvP where got balanced... farking mesmers
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when there are skillful players and not so skillful players.. there are always imbalance... in every game..
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 30 2012, 03:10 PM)
Guild Wars PvP where got balanced... farking mesmers
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No balance?... they patched alot of times until the very recent 1 i played.. maybe 3 years ago XD.. was quite balanced.. not like the very very first time enchanter (if im not mistaken the char but it is something like that la) can just 1 skill all the opponents die..long time ago d.. cannot rmb.. haha
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People will still sell gears or gold for real money with or without RMAH so Blizzard made it legal to trade in their AH and also making good profit from it.

If you don't feel like paying for it then it is your choice but there are millions of people playing the game. Some who don't have time like myself to farm my own items and wouldn't mind spending a few hundred on an ingame item. I for one am enjoying the game and also the legal real money trading. Who would mind earning an extra USD100/day as a part time income?

Inferno was expected to be hard. What is the use of good items if you can beat the game in a week?
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Now Imagine without inferno, I bet every single person out there that has already beaten Hell mode will have nothing to do at all other than rolling new classes. Inferno gives the maxed level players something to continue playing their characters and hunting better items. Granted it is ridiculously hard, but it is only due to the fact blizzard wanted inferno to have taken at least a few months to get beaten so they can roll out an expansion for D3 while players are busy trying to best inferno. Obviously something went wrong somewhere cuz inferno got beaten 6 days after servers went live lol.

RMAH just provides a platform for people who don't have the time or patience to farm an option to spend real money on gears instead of spending gold or farming it themselves. Like many other forumers have stated, they're not forcing you to buy stuff from RMAH, its just a platform for players to get gears using money or vice versa. Nothing wrong or sinister about that. And yes it is possible to beat inferno without having to spend cash.

And about the conspiracy theory that blizzard themselves would sell godlike items in RMAH to gain a quick buck is utterly lame. Why would they do that when WoW is the biggest cash cow in the gaming world? Why risk your reputation when you are already making millions?

 

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