- left 4 dead, revive fallen team mate
- world of warcraft, cool down on healing potions
- system shock / bioshock, journal with audio playback
- world of warcraft, simplified stats, skills system
- guild wars, max choice of 6 skills to use
- torch light, auto pick up gold

hmmm what else ar？

update:
original title edited a bit.

things that were previously not found in diablo and diablo 2

This post has been edited by Deimos Tel`Arin: Jun 1 2012, 11:19 AM

how abt auto-pickup gold from TL?

a lot of (MMO)RPG implement potion cooldown. i think its a good way to prevent pot-spamming.

Reminds me of Ragnarok

ragnarok is the one game that doesn't prevent potion spamming

o ya hor. forgot about that lul.

hmmm i no play much mmorpg so i dunno much.
guild wars tarak potions also lulz.

wow, i only played recent years on wow taiwan.

level up feature from ff....urgh disgusting when i see diablo 3 can LEVEL UP....

copy cat blizzard

what is this i dun even

^

he does have a point. so if anyone else who can see that point, this thread is /thread

salute

in this world, alot of things are borrowed from each other: games, smart phones, bla...

as long as the ppl like like, who cares.

Wow. TS memang hebat!!

agree

creating this thread is like creating a thread saying "what iphone/android copy from others bla bla"

and then they did not put in iphone/android copy SMS from bla bla bla

LMAO

are you telling me final fantasy is the first game to have a "level up" feature?

hey this is just a list of things i noticed from playing diablo 3.

thank you!

problem, officer?

don't forget Shining Force's Lord of Darkness.

o what gameplay feature borrowed from there?

nothing, but thanks for the joke!

Blizzard is the master of copycat + polish for 10 years

Win

PS: There is no original gameplay, to be honest. What Blizzard do well is actually polishing and weave them in into a good game. Diablo III hype is not because of revolutionary gameplay, it's because it's Diablo. Unfortunately, it may be it's downfall as well.

Hell, you can even say TL copycat Diablo system as well!! or Diablo III copycat Diablo II... now about that itemization...

excuse me but i believe 1995 diablo qualify as the first point and click action rpg?

and perhaps the first to introduce randomize maps...

don't know, but we are talking about Diablo III, the latest of the Diablo series, not Diablo.

And if by that, I guess Torchlight copycat Diablo as well, no?

with time passing, the space for "innovative" becomes narrower and narrower, and groundbreaking features will pop up less and less frequently than when the industry is just starting to bloom

I know Hellgate and Mythos implemented auto gold pickups too, but I believe neither of them are the first.

anyway this topic is about what new gameplay features that were previously not available in diablo and diablo 2, but now in diablo 3.

all video games come from the 1st gen game which is ping pong...xD i wonder how they evolve to diablo3 from ping pong...xD

now i can't brain this lol

1. revive has been around for very long..many many old mmo has it..
2. journals were there since like..what?my 486 times..those games were full of it
3. simplified stats?
4. guildwars has 8
5. hmm i tot most games requires u to pick up gold?

1. sure many mmo haz it but only priests, monks, clerics etc can revive ppl. not everyone. l4d was the first 4 player co op game that everyone can revive everyone. (certain terms & conditions do apply though)
2. i believe system shock 2 was the first pc game to have fully voiced audio logs. name me a pc game on 486 with fully voiced audio logs.
3. yes, stats simplified. u no longer need to assign stat points. just like in world of warcraft.
4. yeah guildwars has 8. diablo 3 haz 6. problem?
5. well yeah but torchlight haz this auto pick up gold system when you auto pick up gold while running over gold.

Pong, Lemmings, Dag Dig Dug (or whatever it is called)

Oh good times indeed.

How about butcher and diablo ? They copy back from 1995 games ori diablo 1 then simplified and change the body shape only... i bet if there is diablo 4 and if there is butcher will be back again...

This post has been edited by d33pbluez: May 29 2012, 11:43 AM

haha u know what..from the way u say thing it seems like gaming to u was probably just a decade of 2 max..

anyways

1. i use to be a game designer for mmo's and no there were other games that has resurection skill not for priest/monk classes.
2. even played those puzzle games ?where u have to browse around the room to look for stuff?those are fully audio i know my shit when i post them trust me
3. i believe there were games before this that didnt use stats..u get ur stats auto added too as u level.but that isnt the point here...WOW wasnt the 1st nor the last.
4. did u know the 8 skill system was actually an idea taken from CCG games? not a new thing...if u ever played D&D on paper
5. also not the 1st game to have implemented this thats my point..

ur just bringing up new games there were many more olders ones who did these stuff...

ah what to do? i am a 1981 born and me dad bought me a 386 back in 1993 so gaming to me was like 2 decade 20 years erm yeah that sounds just about right.

why no one mentioned about D&D??

because it is a pen & paper rpg?

what is the first pc game to use d&d rules though?

class system, role play, medieval settings etc

that is not a game.

a game is:
- eye of the beholder 2
- eye of the beholder 3
- dark sun
- dark sun 2
- al qadim
- etc

D&D *IS* a game, but not a *COMPUTER* game

you are indirectly saying physical trading card game M:TG isn't a game but M:TG - duels of the planeswalker is a game

d&d is a pen & paper role playing game system.

Who cares....who is the copycat. As long as it is a fun game.
These days.....everyone is copying everyone...cars, gadget, movies and even human being (plastic surgery).....

u telling me that ur stats/weapon dmg/skill dmg all may not come or have influence from D&D? im pretty sure alot of rpg's out there share the similar rules but who started out 1st i dont know..but definitely not diablo3

also d&d was on pc..go google. theres a number of saga/watever its called..

eg: forgotten realms..

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Added on May 29, 2012, 3:07 pmu telling me that ur stats/weapon dmg/skill dmg all may not come or have influence from D&D? im pretty sure alot of rpg's out there share the similar rules but who started out 1st i dont know..but definitely not diablo3

also d&d was on pc as well..go google. theres a number of saga/watever its called..

eg: forgotten realms..

This post has been edited by tytons: May 29 2012, 03:07 PM

nope i did not say that.

what is wrong with making such a list anyway?

anyway the list is from some games that i played before.
while playing diablo 3, it reminded me of the "special" gameplay features from those games.

so i came up with such a list.
is there anything wrong by doing so?

lol such contradiction this thread is...

How about always online feature from MMORPG?

d3 is a mmorpg.
i thought everyone knows that already?

I can't brain of Diablo 3 being a MMORPG. It's just a "always online" feature.

If it is, it takes me back of Ubisoft's "always online" DRM.

So is Assassin Creed was a "MMORPG"?

D3 is not MMORPG... D3 is mainly an MORPG.

or COOPRPG

This post has been edited by shojikun: May 29 2012, 03:38 PM

bro, got difference oo.
ubisoft's games, the content is all in the hard drive. can be cracked one.
diablo 3, the content is all server side, cannot crack one.

different oooo.

ubisoft's game always online drm is totally different from diablo 3 's server sided thingie.

well, the original guild wars is a mmorpg. max players per co op session was 2 players during pre searing, 4 players in post searin ascalone already, 6 players per party from shiverpeaks area onwards etc.

the social part and auction house part of diablo 3 definitely makes it massively multiplayer.
so many players interacting together via the auction house, you are telling me that is not massively multiplayer?

sooooo many players playing the auction house what.

Yala, but calling it a MMORPG is just, not suited as it's just a simple RPG

Take it Diablo 2, then you connect to Battle.net and start playing.
Pubs and friends can start joining, and in the end, it's the same as playing Diablo 3.

What Blizzard trying to achieve is to avoid the game being spoiled much with cracks, trainer, for they are a "King of Milking".

If it's another MMORPG, I don't see the chances of them want the WoW'ers to change to D3 as they are about to release the new expansion for WoW.

lol then starcraft is an mmorpg...no wait..mmorts

lol..

no lar. that one different.
sc2 got offline single player crack.

and sc2 can be played offline.

basically people use the system already made and change little by little to make better game, remember warcraft turn to dota, then dota turns to Lol and Hon.

its called INNOVATION...using something already there and add some stuff to make it better functioning...

oh god theres too many.

- health bars
- mana
- good vs evil story
- whack/shoot/magicks to do damage
- kill monster drop items
- kill monster drop gold
- can teleport
- etc etc

fyi, WoW have emulator that let u play alone...

WoW = not MMORPG?!

How about who copied Diablo 3

yes. u r correct.


those already in d2 liao.


emulator is not crack.


who？

EyeDentity Games,
Dragon Nest Developer

no hear before wor.

Its Blizzard , they brought in some elements of World of Warcraft into it - the RealID system that allows easily to invite people into party and keep track of their progress - The always on acts as anti-cheat system , to prevent people from hacking and selling things in auction house and making money. This is to prevent memory editors , something like how VAC works when you connect to VAC System. If you can't authenticate to VAC Server , you are kicked out.

yea but diablo 2 didnt start it! copy inspired from other game oso!

This post has been edited by Shadow Kun: Jun 1 2012, 10:43 AM

yea but this topic talking about diablo 3 not diablo 2 o.

i am talking aboot diablo 3 until u mentioned aboot diablo 2

bleh this topic is talking about new game play features previously not found in previous diablo games.

den u shud b more specific la in the title. "new game play features in diablo 3 previously not found in previous diablo games inspired by other games"

This post has been edited by Shadow Kun: Jun 1 2012, 11:05 AM

well i updated the title and post mar