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post Aug 21 2006, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(magic2k @ Aug 21 2006, 10:58 AM)
i'm interested. but i'll have to proxy a lot of my cards because i don't have most them here with me. we can meet at 1 stop and play there since they've got tables set up.

the latest block is ravnica block (ravnica, guildpact, dissension) but the most recently released set was coldsnap, the "lost" ice age third set.
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and currently many ppl see ravnica as the best block out there (including me)
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post Aug 23 2006, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(FCUK89 @ Aug 22 2006, 11:31 PM)
Yeah, it is very good deck. Can win heartbeat also if got good draw and good player.
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its a really balance deck that's why its getting good results...
great mana stability with great bombs in the end...
still it is easily beatable by other deck provided u play well n knowing how a solar flare deck works...

this deck satrted a little slow to stabalize their board so the best to beat it with speed...
many deck can cause major problem to this deck early till the persecute cant really hurt u much...
easiest was to drop a jitte early game n push them hard...
i've beaten this type of deck lots of time using speed but dun voerdo it...
dun jz dump all your cards into play...
they can always wrath some so kidna take it slow...
many rush decks overdo it and lost to this deck long term....

i find this deck bigest weaknest would be against hand control deck...
i played msot of the games against solar flare using my BW hand control deck and it really producing good results...
most of the time they need the cards in their hand to stabalize their field to set up their drakes and stuffs so with cards like cry or castigates can really screw them up...
best would be ravenous rats then put a cry haunting it...
they'll loose so much momentum that u can take advantage off...
u can run them over with konda, or even confidant early on...

their big bombs like the legendary drakes really hurt you if ur not prepare...
wutever u put against them will be mortify...
they are really a headache to kill and till now i cant find a way to counter those drakes unless i have jitte in play with my paladin...

stil in a real game its kidna hard to beat it if the player using it is really good...
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post Aug 24 2006, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(lepakboy @ Aug 23 2006, 07:07 PM)
No i haven't that's why I'm asking what's so good about it.
Currently at my local FNM, the latest craze is UW control playing old skool with huge number of counters and pride to make tokens every turn. If Stalking Stones was in their deck list it'll be like the deck Randy Buelher piloted.

Sides that, anyone seen Lotus Bloom from the upcoming Time Spiral ? *drool*
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ok...
i'm not sure this will really good or not but this is how i play against control deck...
best way to beat is timing...
let say he got untap mana whihc is mstly to cast a counter card...
if u can only cast a card dun bother...
be patient and end ur turn and he'll waste his mana for that turn...
this really annoy them and there wil be a time when they'll loose their patient and get careless provding a window for u to mass cast ur cards...
when u succeed then they need to boucne back ur cards if they got but u will always get to hit them back while they waste their cards...
of course u need to have mana and low mana cost stuffs...

another general tip would be dropping a fake card...
let say u got a jitte and another 1/2 mana cost card..
play the fake card and see if they counter or not...
if they counter then play ur main threat...
if they dun coutner then end ur turn...
this will really get on their nerve... wasting their time and mana...
in the end they'll counter the fake card sooner or later and boom drop ur jitte and end the game...

for me the best against control decks are low cost hand control decks...
the cards would be cry, rav rat, shreking, castgate and other low cost monsters like konda and stuffs...
low mana cost cards like rav rat, cry plus shiriking are easy to cast and leave ur opponent in a cast or discard osition which mostly they'll discard a land or counter providing yet a window for u to cast other stuffs (eg jitte or dark confidant)...
card disadvantage for ur opponent will soon hnder their ablity to counter and dsrupt while u hammer them badly...
wut more it give u board control and rat can hit for damage or yield jittte...
low costing konda like above and provide a big treat early game which force the to bounce it back...
it also provide target for cry...
still leave some low cost cards in hand for emergency as UW should pack 4 wrath...

btw most of these strategies comes from usng my BW hand control deck which i realy love as it gave the best result for me so far...
so far still have a perfect record unlike my other ideas...

for other deck:
burn: always drop ur seal of fire b4 u cast any cards as seal is low mana cost and see their reaction... try burn them fast or burn the tokens and stuffs with pyro and many more...
solar flare: try get enough mana and out paced them... try to persecute ocne u can!
snakes: ur tokens and card advantage should beat them fast with ur great mana build u and low casting...
vore: timing and patience to coutner his counter... hard o explain but it work a bit like hand control dec against cibtrol decks... need great calculation for u to wind the counter war in the end... drop vore for kill as usual... a great way is to pack genju so u can hit him without worrying...
weenie rush: out rush him with your low mana cost creatures...
heartbeat: i would go with determine but not sure cause i never use this dec b4...

decks that have black mana : play the card that destroy monster at the end of turn based onthe mana cost which is qual to counter on him... forgot name but its from ravnica block...
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post Aug 25 2006, 09:22 AM

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btw he need quite a lot of mana for tokens via pride so u can take advantage to cast something better than him...
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post Aug 29 2006, 04:57 PM

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so so far whos going to the nationals and wut deck u planning to bring there?
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post Aug 29 2006, 09:27 PM

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i wish can go but bz with exams haih...
maybe this weekend i'll post some deck list for the decks that can pwn solar flare easily...
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post Aug 30 2006, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(FCUK89 @ Aug 29 2006, 09:30 PM)
Lol..who you?
Can give some name?
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who you???
blur d me rotfl...
and wut name?

so far i test deck a few decks that are really good against solar flares so amybe thoguht of sharing sicne kamigawa gonna roll out soon and those decks wont be useable d...
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post Aug 30 2006, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ Aug 30 2006, 01:33 AM)
As I recall .. some of them will be playing Solar Flare but after seing Mori win the Japan Nationals .. i can say around 70% that players in Nats will be playing CounterTop.dec. Its the deck which uses Counterbalance and Sensei Diving Top. The deck is currently strong. If im going .. i will be going with my Sand Burn.dec but guess wat ... I did not qualify .. hehe  cry.gif
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ya this deck totally pwn decks with a similiar mana cost cards...
cards with mana cost 2 or 3 will face lots of problems agianst this deck...
but soalr flare do have varied mana cost so it's still strong at least against this deck...
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post Aug 30 2006, 09:23 PM

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// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
6 [RAV] Plains (2)
5 [CHK] Swamp (1)
4 [GP] Godless Shrine
4 [9E] Caves of Koilos
2 [CHK] Eiganjo Castle
2 [CHK] Shizo, Death's Storehouse
1 [RAV] Swamp (1)

// Creatures
3 [GP] Shrieking Grotesque
3 [CHK] Isamaru, Hound of Konda
3 [GP] Plagued Rusalka
4 [9E] Ravenous Rats
4 [RAV] Dark Confidant
4 [9E] Paladin en-Vec
4 [SOK] Descendant of Kiyomaro

// Spells
3 [GP] Cry of Contrition
4 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
4 [GP] Castigate

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [CHK] Isamaru, Hound of Konda
SB: 4 [9E] Phyrexian Arena
SB: 4 [GP] Mortify
SB: 4 [CHK] Cranial Extraction
SB: 2 [GP] Ghostway

copied straight drom amgic workstation...
my veyr own hand control deck (b4 coldsnap)

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post Aug 31 2006, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(magic2k @ Aug 30 2006, 09:33 PM)
i'm just curious, why did you leave out hypnotic specter and maindecked descendants?
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hypnotic is great card but it can be killed easily with burn spells...
with dark confidant drawing cards and u discarding their cards then u have the situation jz rite for descendant...
he got 5 toughness which is hard to be killed by burn spells and his spirit link help u stay alive jz in case the confidant damge starts to get overboard...
and descendant + jitte will get u lots of health + damage...

u can feel free to tweak with it...
i'm mroe used to this playing style dunno why...
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post Sep 1 2006, 11:49 AM

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btw jz wanna comfirm...
signet can be tapped the turn they comes into play rite?
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post Sep 2 2006, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(FCUK89 @ Sep 1 2006, 11:58 AM)
Yeah man, if you have mana to activate the ability. icon_rolleyes.gif
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ok thanks...
means it is true...
dumb guy tell em cant be tapped swt...
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post Sep 4 2006, 12:32 PM

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wow terry in final...
-check magic online now-
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post Sep 5 2006, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(Guenhwyvar @ Sep 4 2006, 05:06 PM)
Link pls can't seem to find it.
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man they didnt upsdate bout the KL nationals -swt-
wow at least we got a top8 here...
grats...
can show decklist?
btw wut deck did terry run?

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post Sep 7 2006, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(cdwk2383 @ Sep 6 2006, 11:40 AM)
yes you r rite, au yong wai kin from KL pj area, au yong weng keong is the 1 from penang...both top player hav so similar name

7chai thanks.....dem 1 more match i'll be in the nationals team for Wolds....FYI i beat terry in last round of swiss before qualify for top8...hehe smile.gif
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grats...
haha can tell the story on the the match progress?
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post Sep 11 2006, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(cdwk2383 @ Sep 8 2006, 06:03 PM)
hmmm...ok let's share this since i'm free, day 1 i am doing quite bad with 4-3-0. This means I got to win all 5 matches to ensure top 8 at day 2.

day 2 sure is my lucky day, earl in the morning i get BYE for round 8(which is 1st round of day 2). Then round 9 my opponent got mana screwed...lucky streak. Then after that is constructed T2 portion, Round 10 i played agaisnt a very good opponent, i make mistake on game 2 and lost, but game 3 i come back, again, luck me.

Round 11 is my favourite match during the whole Nationals, during game 2, I have 2 Dark confidant in play, life is 4-3(me-opponent). During my upkep the 1st card i reveal, remand bring me down to 2 life, guess wat's the next card  reveal, sensei's divining top!!, then i get down to 1 life and swing with both my dark confidant for the win. 4 lucky  matches in a row!

The last round of swiss is against the popular Terry Soh, actually he got enuf point for top 8 edi(he paired down to me), but he can't offer me the win because he got to beat me, so tat his brother joe soh got the chance to go top 8. It's quite a boring matches coz we both play control, and any1 who knows magic well knows how boring a control mirror will be. In the end I beat him 2-1, and seeded 3rd for swiss rounds.

Top 8 i got eliminated rite away. End of story...

I tot tat is all, then i go home and sleep, then my frens tell me i missed the top 8 ceremony and photo taking session....hahaha
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lol control deck can bore ppl to death in a mirror match...
both kept waiting only...
grtas again...
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post Sep 13 2006, 12:31 PM

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many decks should sidedeck against solar flare that's why its harder now....
dun think now solar flare is outstanding but rather a stable and safe deck to run...
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post Sep 16 2006, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ Sep 15 2006, 07:14 PM)
Yeah .. i got conned b4 as well. But seriously .. it only happen to me when im playing Magic. When Im playing VS .. this never happen to be b4, sorry to say this but sometime I feel VS community is better that Magic community out there but thanks goodness .. i have good Magic frens suck as Brian, FCUK, 7Chai, dun get me wrong .. i also many good VS fren ... Zio is one of them.

If u r new to Magic ... and its your 1st time playing, I would suggest, keep all the rares u have on u 1st until u get the hang on the trading business. Look at me .. I never trade, I always buy cards from other ppl but thats just me lor ... u dun have to follow me ar  laugh.gif
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lol think he mean such not suck =p
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post Sep 17 2006, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(apek @ Sep 16 2006, 07:38 PM)
u guys play Magic Workstation??
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i play =p
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post Sep 18 2006, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(local_machine @ Sep 18 2006, 09:18 AM)
i dont hav the database file for it. how to upload? one by one?
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which database...
for the latest sets jz press on the update mws and it will auto update d...
all u need is the mtg pack which u can find in the website u download mws from...
i'm in hostel now maybe i'll send u the web after i arrive home this weekend as it is in my favourites...
try get the mtg pack and ocne u got it then u can get all the new cards by updating it only...

oh ppl from other countries are kinda good and their deck varies...
but i mosly meet control decks (kinda boring)
i met lots of french ppl there dunno y...

btw my nick is evofantasy but i rarely play now (exam and stuffs sobz)
think 3 weeks didnt play d...
surely got lots of counterbalance deck there as well...

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