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> Japanese govt promoting Shinkansen to Malaysia, may even willing to provide financing!

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RegentCid
post May 25 2012, 10:18 AM

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I still Bet China will get higher chances.

If Japan build like Taiwan...u need hire Japanese engineer for maintenance...those high position job all are Japanese like Taiwan. Cost are higher.


China build will cost less and train also cost less.....maintenance also less compare to Japan


BTW, China going coming Malaysia open train factory right? higher chances they will build the High speed rail

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post May 25 2012, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ May 25 2012, 09:37 AM)
CSR Zhuzhou plans to build factory in Perak for the production of new Ampang line trains  hmm.gif
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Since got factory...might well as build the bullet train...why Malaysia choose China ETS why not Korea or Japan? ...because is cheap.

If Malaysia going do bullet train project....no doubt will be China.

Plus China want build bullet train from SIngapore to Bangkok project is more early than Japan wanted to build ....

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post May 25 2012, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ May 25 2012, 09:45 AM)
Too early to tell when KL-SG HSR is still officially under "feasibility" study.

Siemens wanted to bid for the project if it is confirmed, Japan also interested.

Now Japan government going to involve in pursuing deals in Malaysia  hmm.gif
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Japan build the cost will be high. Like Taiwan , after build the Maintenance must only done by Japanese company only. other cannot..That the rulez if Japan build..Japan govt always look after their ppl.

Under Japan company Maintenance:
All the part sure wanted Made in Japan...Taiwan closed to Japan shipping is lower....Malaysia sure expensive.
Rail repairing sure wanted made in Japan rail. Every 5 years want replaced old rail...like this Malaysia govt will pokai. Like what they did in Taiwan ..everything control very strictly. everything old change old change.

I work in Japanese company and my superior are Japanese..I know they way of working. Everything also change change change...new new new. Cost bill sent the upper head.


The way of Japan ppl work is Change the part before it fail. China are change the part only it fail. see the different?

But Malaysia ppl altitude is the thing still working why want to change it? so China style is more suit to Malaysia.

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post May 25 2012, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(hack3line @ May 25 2012, 10:18 AM)
china bullet train... kababoooomm.. 35 orang sudah mati

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This is accident cause by signal tower.....not Train manufacturer company // driver cause it......they blame the signal company already. So CHina build train are safe.


Train accident everywhere also have.. Munich Maglev accident at Year 2012 March Killing 23 on board....So now u say German train are unsafe? German tech are suck?

China bullet train accident so far is that one only.
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post May 25 2012, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(hack3line @ May 25 2012, 10:31 AM)
this is a fact about Japanese shinkansen

Japan's Shinkansen trains began operation in 1964. In over 30 years of operations, the Shinkansen have recorded no fatal accidents among their more than 3 billion passengers. This legendary safety is supported by a multi-layered inspection and operation system.

data until year 1998 only  laugh.gif

face da fact !!!
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If China that lousy SIgnal company doesn't go error...China High Speed Rail still 0 Fatal Accident. If you consider human error mistake or train failure part cause accident..China still 0 record. China and Japan still Zero record.


That China accident is not China high speed rail company fault. Same as Japan govt denied Tohoku Earthquake causing one SHinkansen accidnet killing the people inside. They say is not thier fault...Blame the Earthquake .


If you say That signal company fault is China high speed rail fault...then I can told u Tohoku Earthquake also JR East Shinkansean fault ....killing half of train ppl inside

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post May 25 2012, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(hack3line @ May 25 2012, 10:47 AM)
earthquake is natural disaster, only god can predict it accurately

high speed rail company fault is human error, that one can predict accurately by using engineering math

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japan government is right, human can never challenge god's superiority of natural disaster but we can try to avoid it as best as we can and JAPAN JUST DID IT IN more than 45 years of shinkansen history !!

baru buat train terus accident pastu salahkan company orang lain .. apa punya perangai daaa  doh.gif
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You still don't get it.

That Signal Company are not under China High Speed Rail. They are different Company...how can u blame the High Speed Rail Company?

China High Speed rail until today still no Human Error. That signal show green light sure the drive accelerate foward. How can he know the front got another slow moving train? That dya is raining + 250km/h speed...impossible to you look foward...plus stopping a 250km/h train need almost 4 - 5 km to fully stop it.
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post May 25 2012, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(hack3line @ May 25 2012, 11:24 AM)
company besar2 diaorang pakai QC diaorang sendiri, orang diaorang sendiri.. diaorang sentiasa nak jaga nama baik diaorang.

japanese in the past, they even do harakiri, kill themself if they think they put shame into their own family name and the tradition.

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for me its either european tech or japanese tech.. we must aim for the best quality of technology transfer into our own malaysian people !!
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The the train is maintain by Japanese or euro ..the ticket will be so expensive...RM300 per way to Penang butterworth..u still take the train? with AA just offer 100 to Penang Airport.

Most Malaysian now still cannot effort that kind of ticket price

This post has been edited by RegentCid: May 25 2012, 12:28 PM
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post May 26 2012, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(hack3line @ May 26 2012, 01:47 PM)
Tokyo -> Nagoya .. last time is about ¥10,800, so now rate like that ah ??

convert to Ringgit Malaysia is about RM 427.40

but working in japan earning ¥10,000 is like earning RM100 working in malaysia  laugh.gif
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Nop...A office Boy in Japan 1 Year salaries just 100,000 Yen around...Mean one month is less than 10,000 Yen. Alot ppl in Japan ned work 2 job only cna survive..

Unless those Otaku.....no plan to get car or wife or house

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