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post May 22 2012, 11:22 PM

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hallo guys... long time not posting any reply... ive just got my mom's car chassis no, that is 42XX, and the dealer said it delivery time would be in this week... but it seem some of da member in this forum facing the problem , should i trust the sa or fucuk them till the delivery time? and what is the shortest @ longest time taken for da delivery? since im live in penang, i dont believe it will arrive in the shortest time....

for those who still didnt get their car, i feel u bro.... to fucuk or not to be fucuk, thats become the question
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post May 22 2012, 11:59 PM

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oh.. ty V12Kompressor... wah... just wait patiently till this friday, if the car are not arrive@ got spin by the sa, lock n load, command received, ready to fire !!! vmad.gif
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post May 23 2012, 01:15 PM

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wah last nite i leave at page 8, now already on page 12... just now when i wondering around the net, i found a forum that take a preve problem from another forum(not from LYN) and bash it blindly...it make me think that even though some of us having prob with the car, al least we give our opinion based on fact n our experience, not being the third person that tend to know everything(wikipedia wannabe).glad to read ur post LYN members !!!
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post May 23 2012, 01:28 PM

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@ Saya_Dhuang, be a neutral perspective is good for me, we are accepting plus n minus bout something and looking the interest part out of it

@archiq, it is TKN if im not mistaken, the tread title would be "Eh ingat kan prevet ni global car... same aje problemnyer..."
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post May 24 2012, 10:02 AM

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ive got a qusetion to ask, if the child were sit infront on passenger side, how to disable/totally lock the door ? since the child were likely to pull the door latch repeatedly
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post May 24 2012, 10:15 AM

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laugh.gif , cause ive wondering on the internet and i found this

'Saya baru sahaja mengambil kereta ini seminggu yang lepas dan nyaris-nyaris kehilangan anak saya.. biasa lah budak-budak tak duduk diam walau diatas pangkuan ibunya..proton preve ia mengunakan teknologi dimana kereta akan auto lock bila bergerak tetapi jika kita menarik paddle/pembuka pintunya dua kali berturut-turut pintunya akan terbuka secara automatic tanpa block stage walaupun kereta sedang bergerak, suatu hari semasa saya dalam perjalan pulang kerumah, anak saya telah menarik paddle pintu dan pintu telah terbuka secara automatic serta menyebabkan anak saya nyaris2 terjatuh nasib baik sempat dipegang oleh ibunya yang pada masa itu sedang memangkunya dan pada masa itu kelajuan kereta sekitar 70km sejam. Ada sapa-sapa boleh bagi cadangang bagaimana untuk membuatkan pintu itu tidak terbuka walau paddlenya ditarik berkali-kali semasa kereta sedang bergerak, seperti kereta yang mengunakan lock dan unlock biasa… kalau pintu belakang saya dah buat child lock dah tapi ni pintu depan belah penumpang… satu hari memikirkanya…dah naik trauma.. menyesal pun ada…ni kah tahap keselamatan 5 bintang???'

souce:preveclub

i think ive read somewhere bout the door mechanism, but not really remembered it... can some 1 explain to me?

* if it is good information, ill copy it and post it with the credit on this forum....
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post May 24 2012, 12:43 PM

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oh... regarding the door latch thingy, even the proton having the same system as the bimmer@merc, people still fucuking it...

btw, on the preveclub.com, there were post about proton event being held in phuket, for further information , u can refer to:


http://preveclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8...f945b8eaa1e8b8e
kuda silver
post May 24 2012, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ May 24 2012, 01:04 PM)
tongue.gif seems Prevoc not invited
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jgn berkecil hati ma, mgkin event admin x prasan yang LYN pn da PREVOC, can i post it in prevoc fb?


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post May 24 2012, 01:44 PM

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already post it on prevoc fb page, personally i love LYN coz it is fast on spreading information, knowledge and etc, furthermore, the mod there also a prevoc member, maybe there would be a collaboration between both club/forum in the future.....
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post May 25 2012, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(ToxicBen @ May 25 2012, 01:39 PM)
Hi All Prevoc bro & sis,

Just FYI in case you are kind to know our preve Campro CFE engine in more detail.
Proton Campro 1.6 CFE – The Development Programme.

The engineering team comprising Proton and Lotus engineers started the design work at Lotus’ UK Technical Centre outside Norwich, before migration of the project to the Proton technical center in Shah Alam, Malaysia.

This allowed for good continuity within the engineering team, as well as building strong interpersonal links. This method also allowed inexperienced engineers an unparalleled opportunity to be introduced onto a live project, being mentored by Lotus and Proton senior engineers. In total, around 30 Proton engineers spent time at the engineering centre at Lotus.

Web conferencing packages were used extensively to efficiently communicate between Lotus and Proton, as well as with vendor engineering teams in Asia and Europe. As well as utilizing Proton’s existing supply base, many new technology suppliers were used for the CFE engine. Lotus Engineering Malaysia worked closely with the Proton supplier quality assurance (SQA) team through the advanced product quality planning (APQP) process.

Lotus manufacturing engineers worked with Proton manufacturing engineers to define and plan out the changes needed to the existing manufacturing facility in terms of equipment and processes to accommodate the changes of the Campro CFE engine.

Engine dynamometer testing was carried out at both the Lotus UK and Proton Malaysian test facilities. Additionally engines and electrically driven rigs were run at vendor sites to validate key components.

The first prototype engines were available for test 7 months after kickoff, with the initial design verification (DV) phase engines built at Lotus using prototype suppliers. Later DV phase engines would be built offline at Proton using soft tooled parts from production suppliers, before final process validation engine built on a new final assembly line in the Shah Alam facility.

The engineering programme included application of a new torque based engine management system (EMS) as well as the base engine changes required for the higher performance of the force induction system’s application. The new system would allow for seamless integration with a new continuously variable transmission, as well as permitting the vehicle to be upgraded to the latest levels of electronic stability program (ESP).

Calibration of the EMS was carried out by Lotus and Proton engineers, working closely with the transmission supplier (Punch Powertrain) and also the EMS software and hardware supplier
(Continental SA).

In line with the product plan, the engine management calibration was proven at low temperature in Sweden, as well as high temperature/high altitude in Spain and Malaysia.
Proton Campro 1.6 CFE – Technical.
Although based on the existing engine family, retaining many of the key features like bore size, block height, cam positions etc, the vast majority of the components were replaced or modified in some way.

One fundamental change was a reduction in stroke from 88 mm to 86 mm. With the retained 76 mm bore, the swept volume reduced from 1,597 cc to 1,561 cc. This was brought about by the very compact height of the existing iron cylinder block which did not provide enough space to increase the required piston strength or lower the piston crown to achieve the desired compression ratio.

The compression ratio was set at 8.9:1, which although relatively low for a modern downsized engine, allows the same hardware to be used for all the target markets including those with 88 RON fuel and very hot climates without excessive retardation.

The cylinder block was based on the original Campro cast iron block. Extensive finite element analysis (FEA) showed no requirement to strengthen the casting to withstand the increased cylinder pressures. Small changes to the block were made to incorporate piston cooling jets into the oil gallery, and computational fluid dynamics (CFD) driven flow improvements into the water jacket to improve the engine cooling required for the performance increase.

A forged steel crankshaft replaced the original cast iron unit in the engine. FEA indicated that it would be possible to maintain the existing main bearing and rod bearing dimensions; however it was necessary to improve the bearing material to withstand the projected loadings.

A new piston design with a 19 mm floating piston pin to withstand the higher cylinder pressures was implemented. The cast piston incorporated an anodised top ring groove to prevent micro-welding damage with the expected high temperatures, and a scuff resistant coating applied to the piston skirts.

The changes to the piston and the increased gas pressure loading necessitated a change in connecting rod and connecting rod length. A new forged steel fracture cap design replaced the original powder metal design.

The aluminium 4 valve per cylinder DOHC Campro cylinder head was re-engineered to accept an intake cam phaser for the CFE application. This was achieved maintaining the existing cambelt location and now permits 40 crank degrees of intake cam phasing for improved performance, fuel economy and emissions. An improved cambelt material was implemented along with an auto-tensioner for improved serviceability.

During the cylinder head redesign, the spark plug was changed to a narrow thread, long reach design so that the spark plug boss would allow better cooling as well as a lower coolant back pressure in the cylinder head water jacket. In thesame way as the cylinder block, the water jacket design actions were led by extensive up-front CFD analysis.Through the reductions in coolant restriction developed through CFD, only a modest increase in water pump flow rate was required.

A new multiple layers steel (MLS) cylinder head gasket was developed to withstand the higher cylinder pressures.

To withstand the expected higher exhaust gas temperatures, sodium filled exhaust valves maintaining the original 5 mm stem diameter were selected.

An upgraded oil pump was also implemented to compensate for the higher demand of piston cooling jets, turbocharger bearing oil supply, and to maintain good oil pressure at low engine speed so that the intake variable valve timing (VVT) system could be operated. A water-cooled oil cooler is fitted as standard.

A Borg Warner turbocharger’s compressor and turbine were selected for maximum low speed performance. It uses a pressure regulated wastegate to control plenum pressure, and incorporated an electric integrated compressor bypass. Air from the compressor is ducted to an air to air chargecooler mounted in the front left hand side bumper aperture. An electrical pump which is actuated on key-off to provide coolant to the turbocharger bearing housing after engine shutdown. This pump also circulates coolant around the rest of the coolant circuit to prevent boiling, an important feature in the high ambient temperature of Malaysia and Proton’s export markets.

In line with the original Campro philosophy, the CFE engine uses a single close-coupled catalyst as sole exhaust gas after-treatment as a cost effective fast light off package. Variations in platinum group metals (PGM) loading and substrate density will cover Euro III to Euro V emissions markets.

The existing two-mode variable length plastic manifold was replaced with a compact fixed length plastic manifold for the CFE. The fuel rail was re-engineered to a return-less design to reduce fuel heating effects, and higher flow fuel injectors fitted to satisfy the increased performance level.

As well as improvements to produce and withstand the increased performance, several other changes were made to reduce the friction of the base engine. These changes included replacing the original engine’s direct acting hydraulic tappets with lower friction mechanical graded tappets that are machine selected on the engine assembly line.

Piston ring heights were reduced allowing lower tangential loads and the piston skirts now include a low friction coating.

A windage tray was also added to the oil pan that has been shown to reduce parasitic losses by up to 1.5 kW. A higher specification lower viscosity mineral oil was specified to allow extended service intervals along with reduced friction.
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post May 25 2012, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(ToxicBen @ May 25 2012, 03:23 PM)
go a head, sharing is caring mah  smile.gif
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post May 26 2012, 03:21 PM

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hello guys, my mom just received her car yesterday, n today done some fast trip from penang-kuala kangsar-penang, overall, handling good than my father previous T corolla,can take the apex of highway exit firmly, smooth on highway. but still have wind noise at c pillar when speeding more than 120kmh. im quite afraid when reversing the car since the rear end quite high and often miss-push the signal lever to wiper lever(need sometime to suit myself to the car)

variant:iafm+ CVT
colour:genetic silver
rgistration no:pkp 80XX
chassis no:42XX
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post May 26 2012, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ May 26 2012, 03:24 PM)
of coz handling better than corolla leh, the corolla has the shittiest handling in the C segment class. laugh.gif
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nod.gif coz that the car my family owned, can i compare with N sylphy( my friend will curse me if he read this) sweat.gif
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post May 26 2012, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(my1508 @ May 26 2012, 06:39 PM)
oops thats not my car. pic i took here in lyn. tq


Added on May 26, 2012, 7:04 pm

can you confirm gear lever light have or not for iafm cvt

for me wind noise at a pillar
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im not sure about that, coz im never drive it in the nite yet, but the tranny lever light already being set personally to the most bright, but still didnt see the light even with the lamp lever switch on(maybe it is because of i see it in the daylight doh.gif )

oh, im heared the wind noise coz im sit at the back, when i drive it, just a normal engine sound revving

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