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post May 22 2012, 02:08 AM, updated 14y ago

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I'm still cannot defeat belial. Using barb dunno what to do sad.gif
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post May 22 2012, 02:11 AM

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what's ur setup?
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post May 22 2012, 02:22 AM

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this ass made me play almost 5-6 times only can kill him because of the delay. i believe u got pwned by the ground explosions. just need to be very sharp and click fast because the .5 second delay kills you yawn.gif
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post May 22 2012, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(shojikun @ May 22 2012, 02:11 AM)
what's ur setup?
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I use 2 weapons. Skill don't remember. What you recommend.
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post May 22 2012, 02:25 AM

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i've written a guide on this boss in this forum. dont know sink till which page liao laugh.gif
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post May 22 2012, 02:26 AM

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belial is one of the hardest boss in game

azmodan and diablo is nth compared to him
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post May 22 2012, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ May 22 2012, 02:22 AM)
this ass made me play almost 5-6 times only can kill him because of the delay. i believe u got pwned by the ground explosions. just need to be very sharp and click fast because the .5 second delay kills you yawn.gif
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i play more than 5 times already now give up sad.gif

QUOTE(Xenn @ May 22 2012, 02:25 AM)
i've written a guide on this boss in this forum. dont know sink till which page liao laugh.gif
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found it. Will read tomorrow now tired already. smile.gif
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post May 22 2012, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(kacanghijau12 @ May 22 2012, 02:08 AM)
I'm still cannot defeat belial. Using barb dunno what to do sad.gif
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u can use leap to avoid belial attack..mostly when u see green thing nearby ur char..run away far abit..dont too close..frenzy will help u, when u got extra fury use seismic slam..
summon those 3 ancestor at starting fight and keep it in cd..
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post May 22 2012, 03:14 AM

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U just need to avoid the poison wave, Belial is nothing compare to hell sewers lol...
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post May 22 2012, 03:16 AM

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go for life leech for all ur skill.....should help u kill him.....
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post May 22 2012, 03:38 AM

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solo-ed hell belial, 2-man party one person dead. no big deal brows.gif
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post May 22 2012, 06:23 AM

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belial got 3 mode, 1 mode he just look, doesnt join battle, 2nd mode, he join battle and that is a small belial, the last mode, he cheat and become godzilla size. the first 2 modes, kill his minions and avoid healing pots on the ground, the 3rd mode, if you need healing, take potion 1st, within 30 secs(potion lag), u cant quaff another, go take healing pot on the ground, then go back potion, then healing pot(1 to 2 pot depends on how much you need) on the ground. im not saying u stand still and let it whack you, i say use this method to help you heal in between potion lag. it is possible to dodge all 100% his attacks by moving around.

some other tricks you might want to consider, change passive skills, 1 skill can heal you after you use warcry(shout), 1 skill can drain its hp, i think 3% off damage you can do, use a bigger potion type, etc. but dodging is the best, cause in higher difficulty, u cant heal as fast as it able to damage you, so prevent getting damage is the key.

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post May 22 2012, 07:04 AM

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get better armors and just stand there and hit attack tongue.gif

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post May 22 2012, 08:22 AM

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@OP: You didn't specify you were failing on which mechanic... so I'm going to assume you died to green slimes on the ground.

The key to it is not to keep moving. You see, you only move when the green thing spawns at your feet as it will take 2 seconds b4 it "explodes" and affect you. So you just move out of it, stop, wait for another one to spawn, then move out... rinse and repeat.

If you're having issues with adds killing you, then go on a party with a tank (barb/monk), with a healer and 2 dpsers (including you). I did that in hell mode after getting killed by adds endlessly and it was so much easier. My group comprised of witch doc, mage, myself the DH and a monk tank all from pug.

If you're dying due to other issues, then please update the post so we know how to help advice...
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post May 22 2012, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(kacanghijau12 @ May 22 2012, 02:08 AM)
I'm still cannot defeat belial. Using barb dunno what to do sad.gif
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i was having problem also! But i just beat him last night with level 25 barb. My trick? HIRE A TEMPLAR! Give him the healing skills and a good shield and it will be very easy already..hehe icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 22 2012, 08:32 AM

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i destroyed belial in less than 10 secs thanks to auction house lol lol

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post May 22 2012, 08:40 AM

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if you know belial's attacks, is pretty simple.

1. big arms attack, it will signal on the floor before he smack on it. look the green marks which will light up.

2. vommit toxic, just slowly avoid it by carefully walk to avoid it, if beginner, don try to attack him. just avoid it first.

3. the toxic whirlwid. he only spread to a certain area, go the safe place. this is the best time to hentam belial kao kao.

initially i also buta-buta kena killed by him few times, after study his pattern, pretty simple.

good luck.

p/s: make sure u have yr vital can tahan at least 2 of his attack. but i think barb shd have not prob on it.

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post May 22 2012, 09:37 AM

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Belial is tougher than azmodan -___-
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post May 22 2012, 09:40 AM

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1) be patient, don keep attacking
2) when he spam green thing, just keep moving and avoid.

the rest of his attack not that pain.

I'm using witch doctor
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post May 22 2012, 09:46 AM

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if you got lag when Belial start using massive poison wave...


I have a bad news for you.....
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post May 22 2012, 09:51 AM

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Doesn't seem to be a problem for Monk though. In normal mode, so far monk is an easy drive.
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post May 22 2012, 09:51 AM

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nightmare belial is awesome.
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post May 22 2012, 09:52 AM

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actually the 3rd AOE skill is "pain in the @$$"

but if your not having graphic lagness and internet lag, u are able to perdict the attack pattern and avoide getting hit by it.

start of when the boss put his 2 arms on the ground, tats the sign his going to start the AOE attack, what i did is my character stand infront of his mouth, wait and start runing around..hahah

juz my 2 cents
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post May 22 2012, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(shojikun @ May 22 2012, 09:51 AM)
nightmare belial is awesome.
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Nightmare belial is imba -___-
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post May 22 2012, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ May 22 2012, 02:22 AM)
this ass made me play almost 5-6 times only can kill him because of the delay. i believe u got pwned by the ground explosions. just need to be very sharp and click fast because the .5 second delay kills you yawn.gif
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u can dodge the ground explosions if you are alert and timing right. Got some kind of markers or warning before explode. I only died once while lagging, the rest is easy. Good luck.
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post May 22 2012, 10:20 AM

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This boss is a killer.

I also barely made it in normal, cant recall what lvl but it is soloable. As a monk, save heal and potion cooldown for aoe phase. Only pop potion and heals when low in health. And I hired scoundrel instead of templar, killing bel asap is crucial.
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post May 22 2012, 10:22 AM

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i got stuck quite a few times oso at him. yea u can predict the green circle thinggy but when it pops out pretty much everywhere really hard. tried to vault it with my DH but didnt really work. finally succeeded when i used smokescreen. not sure how it works really but it enables me to dodge the aoe pretty well
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see green circle...run !!!

well as monk, can use serenity & seven sided strike to temporary go into 'god' mode to avoid the explosion biggrin.gif
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post May 22 2012, 10:32 AM

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i can assist to do belial in normal mode! also have a lot of good RARE +str +vit stuff for barbarian for sale!

add me up guys. be more than happy to help fellow barbs! yelfuzz#6616
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post May 22 2012, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(FireSnake @ May 22 2012, 08:40 AM)
if you know belial's attacks, is pretty simple.

1. big arms attack, it will signal on the floor before he smack on it. look the green marks which will light up.

2. vommit toxic, just slowly avoid it by carefully walk to avoid it, if beginner, don try to attack him. just avoid it first.

3. the toxic whirlwid. he only spread to a certain area, go the safe place. this is the best time to hentam belial kao kao.

initially i also buta-buta kena killed by him few times, after study his pattern, pretty simple.

good luck.

p/s: make sure u have yr vital can tahan at least 2 of his attack. but i think barb shd have not prob on it.
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This is a good guide!

Just a few amendment, there is no safe spot for toxic whirlwind.
If you never got hit by whirlwind when he cast on same spot, you're just lucky, maybe he was aiming at your teammate.
-For Barb, i presume you have the jump thing. so in case you're cornered by whirldwind, just jump to a clean spot. you have better evading option than quite a number of class. Most of the time you just have to walk between the clear gap of the whirlwind.
Note: Poison whirlwind needs like 1 sec charge up after he cast on floor to start damaging you.

Vomit toxic has safe spot, its at the end, make sure u are at the far end when he start vomitting.
Easily avoidable and u can can max your dps at this point. whirlwind or whatsoever.

Big arms attack please refer to the above post, very good guide.
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post May 22 2012, 10:41 AM

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actually it depends on what type of barbarian you play, I seen most people i join game with, they tend to just loot and use the item that have the most defence and attack. Then i look closely at the item its adding to inteligence and dex.

Barb should always focus on STR mainly, then not forgetting your VIT! once u have a decent HP. Your skills should keep you alive, you can opt for those skills which runes enable life and fury increase. Also summoning the 3 ancient works wonders for belial!

Always use jump and get 100% more armor when you land rune. That way u get to sustain longer.

Had no problems with belial and have been assisting people doing it since. Hope this helps smile.gif
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post May 22 2012, 10:43 AM

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Well I guess the tips on WOW works here too: "Don't stand on fire!". Fire means something funny on ground.
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hang out on the right hand side of the platform, the attacks are less over that area, that's what i encountered so far after several runs with him...
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post May 22 2012, 02:14 PM

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there is no safe spot for the explosions, but they're easily dodgeable. the only skill that is considered hard to dodge is the one that he pierces his pincer into the ground to hit you. the speed of attack animation and its aoe renders it to hit most of the time.
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post May 22 2012, 02:31 PM

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belial is easy if u got monk or barb in ur party.
ask them to tank the mob and u unleash the damage.
thats the hardest part with belial i guess.. the mob.
there rest are just dodging..
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post May 22 2012, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(AvenueX @ May 22 2012, 09:54 AM)
Nightmare belial is imba -___-
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But nightmare belial is so easy sweat.gif

I beat NM belial with both barb and wiz
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post May 22 2012, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ May 22 2012, 02:32 PM)
But nightmare belial is so easy  sweat.gif

I beat NM belial with both barb and wiz
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yup same... xD i only died once because another friend of mine comes to me with his back chased by green-slime-vortex-of-doom!

but then Belial is freaking easy to play on Nightmare.. can't wait to fight him in Hell mode!
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lol solo Hell butcher is annoying as Hell, but fun =.=

one hook/one charge = gone already

havent reach Hell Belial yet.. should be interesting as well
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post May 22 2012, 02:43 PM

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really? even in normal?

i solo in normal with monk + serenity protect myself when in danger being attacked by her big arm or explosions surrounded

if nightmare, haha that really hard without frens help, cannot last long enough to beat her
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QUOTE(AvenueX @ May 22 2012, 09:54 AM)
Nightmare belial is imba -___-
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use monk it is not imba at all biggrin.gif
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post May 22 2012, 04:11 PM

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Try hell belial and you know what is hard sweat.gif
level 60 and still die many times.
His 3 hit combo (smash) and his meteor is the killer.
3 hit combo is easy to avoid just run the out of the way of the green circle for 2 times ( left and right ) and the last one ( middle )
for meteor, it's all about avoiding and luck, if you stand one spot and he mass spam that spot, just pray it doesnt 1HKO you
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hrm. using monk.

Normal mode vs Belial. Solo. 1 try win. Just stand there do nothing except whacking and healing. biggrin.gif

Nightmare mode vs Belial. Solo. 2 try win. Just stand there didn't quite work due to the bombing so I run around during bombing la. If no bombing I just stand there do nothing except whacking. biggrin.gif

My take is vs Belial, HP + DPS helps a lot. And knowing how to avoid the bomb.
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as long as u can estimate the bomb fuse... and time ur steps accordingly, should be ok..

wiz with teleport should help as well

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post May 22 2012, 05:12 PM

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Demon hunter here,

died in belial too ....
but then lucky smoke screen(invisible) save me ...
i focus on dex, so my hp can tahan 1 hit only, 2nd hit i will KO
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that's why should upgrade stash and keep a few variation of stats boosting kit. sometimes have to swap stats for the situation.

even your choice of skills and runes can affect the outcome.
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post May 23 2012, 12:42 PM

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Normal Belial - Solo and Win at 1st meet ~ around LV25
Tips :
Shadow Power/Rapid fire
Life on hit ~ 100+
GG Belial like creep.

Nightmare Belial - try 3 times. Solo and Pawn.
Shadow Power / Preparation / Sentry / Rain of Death / Rapid fire
Life on hit ~ 120+
Life steal 3%
Companion Enchantress - ATK speed + Crit
some super potion.

Hell Belial
Give up solo...... even on level 55.

Inferno Belial
Not even thinking going inferno before RMAH.......



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post May 23 2012, 12:45 PM

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kill killed him last night, 1 time tried.
basically jst need to predict where and when his attack, and u will win..
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if u predict well, u will be fine

but shit happens, when there's a strike cannot evade, serenity will take the damage smile.gif
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avoid the bombing run, it will one shot in normal / nightmare / hell / inferno most characters unless got ridiculous amount of health + damage reduction + resistance.

beating belial is mostly about surviving his bombing run.
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 23 2012, 01:13 PM)
avoid the bombing run, it will one shot in normal / nightmare / hell / inferno most characters unless got ridiculous amount of health + damage reduction + resistance.

beating belial is mostly about surviving his bombing run.
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Which becomes ridiculously difficult when you got more than 600ms lag. mad.gif
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solo'ed hell belial.. 3 tries.. endless adds kill me =.=
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QUOTE(tgrrr @ May 23 2012, 02:09 PM)
Which becomes ridiculously difficult when you got more than 600ms lag.  mad.gif
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oh. ping is okay on weekdays, weekends ping terribad.

avoid playing on weekends.
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my monk cant survive on Nightmare =="
any good guide?
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lvl 25 Wiz
solo belial normal mode
died 7-8 times
end up I change my skill to Diamond Skin (instead of Frost armor) + cyclopse laser eye, then only manage to kiew Belial ~_~
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ May 23 2012, 02:17 PM)
my monk cant survive on Nightmare =="
any good guide?
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post ur build in monk discussion tered oo.

nightmare onwards u need more health.
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 23 2012, 02:22 PM)
post ur build in monk discussion tered oo.

nightmare onwards u need more health.
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need buy more item i think.
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ehh ok mah. I my character also around that. towards the end of Act IV already. biggrin.gif

 

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