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beer8bottles
post May 22 2012, 01:47 PM

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beer8bottles
post May 24 2012, 06:10 PM

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Okay, I have another question:

What pump head brand (for sump tank) is the most silent but also efficient in performance?

I'm looking to get one that's reasonably priced. No China brands, okay. So far, I have been told that Rio, Aquabee, Eden and Ehiem have silent motors, or near to silent.

Do give suggestions.

Thank you.


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post May 28 2012, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(Wz10 @ May 28 2012, 06:11 PM)
Hey guys, can someone teach me how to prepare some driftwood? Right from scratch...
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1. Put them in a pail.
2. Pour boiling water onto them until they are submerged.
3. Let them soak for two weeks until all the tanins leach out.

I like to repeat the part 2 and 3 until the tanins have been all leached out, or until the water they are soaking in fairly clear.
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post May 28 2012, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ May 28 2012, 07:52 PM)
i put them in my toilet tank, everytime i flush, the tanins goes too. 2 in 1 !
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Really? I dunno if you are joking or serious. Maybe it'll work for small pieces of driftwood.
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post May 28 2012, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(Wz10 @ May 28 2012, 11:25 PM)

Added on May 28, 2012, 11:26 pm

So this is the best right? Do I have to change the boiling water often? Thanks!
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I usually wait till the water is like dark tea before I change the water.
Then add more boiling water. It's best to use those heavy duty pails, they're called drums.


For a longer but more effective method:
(The days for soaking and sunning depends on you)

1. Boilling water soaking (3 days)
2. Sun dry (2 days)
3. Boiling water soaking (3 days)
4. Complete sun dry (2 days)
5. Boiling water soak (4 days)

This hardens the driftwood. It takes a long time though. But after the leaching process is over, the wood will never discolour the water in your tank.




I'm having problem with very large driftwood, the dimensions roughly 1 ft x 1.5 ft. I don't have a container or drum large enough to soak it in.

Anyone know how to leach it?
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post May 29 2012, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ May 28 2012, 11:59 PM)
i harden my rotten bogwood using smoke.

cant you just campak the 1ft DW into a pond or sumthing...?

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Hahhahahahah! How to campak it into the pond?

How do you smoke your driftwood? Is it like sate? Make a charcoal fire and place it over the smoke?

Oh yeah, what types of plants do you recommand for low lighting, and attached to rocks or driftwood?
Can I simply get normal seaweed type plants (I think it's cambomba, not sure about this) and tie them to the rocks or the driftwood?
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post May 31 2012, 06:07 PM

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Hi, people, I need advise.

I've an 8 ft tank which I plan to keep a fish that does not allow people to put their hands into the tank. It's an aba aba knifefish. As the tank is going to be a divider in my parents' house, they want it to look presentable, meaning it needs to have some greens in it.

My experience in keeping aquarium plants = 0

My fish likes to play around with the substrate, moving the sand around making dunes in its tank. If there are small pieces of stone, it will try to "throw" it out of the tank. Hence, only heavy, flat pieces of stone are placed in its tank.

I'm not planning to have a CO2 system or any fancy planted tank equipment. The lighting used will be natural light or basic LED.

I need advise on plants that are very, very low maintenance:

1. not planted into substrate
2. low lighting
3. low CO2
4. slow growing (So I don't need to trim it often)
5. Hardy

So far I've been told to try java ferns, java moss and anuibus.
Are there any others?

And does moss clog up the filtration system easily? It's a sump type filtration. If not, I plan to make a moss wall.

Thank you.

This post has been edited by beer8bottles: May 31 2012, 06:08 PM
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post May 31 2012, 06:49 PM

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There will be river sand as substrate. I don't mind it moving the substrate around as it will suspend food/waste derbis, hence cleaning the tank.

There will be a big piece of driftwood and some flat rocks. But it needs some green to complete it, otherwise the tank will look kinda dead. I don't know if the fish will eat/destroy the plant. It's current tank is just river sand (and it looks really sad..)

I need simple plants that do not require planting in to substrate (ie. soil, sand, gravel...etc), like moss can be tied to the driftwood. But will it clog the filter? Will it grow too fast?

Help please.


For the moss wall, it will be 2.5ft x 2.5ft. Not 8ft..@_@ I am a super boob, okay. Wouldn't want to go extreme at first try. Later it may backfire and I'd have so much clean up work to do.
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post May 31 2012, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ May 31 2012, 08:33 PM)
maybe you can try anubias and fern type of plant. but you need to tie it to the DW. and make sure the fish wont throw the DW out
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I just recieved a huge piece of driftwood from a fellow forumer in the Primitive Fish thread. It's is so, so heavy. If the fish manages to lift that, I really dunno what to say anymore. But lets just hope that it doesn't smile.gif
I'll tie the plants to it.

I've decided to go with java fern. Moss is just too messy for my liking. One type of plant should be good enough for a start.

QUOTE(bettagerm @ May 31 2012, 10:06 PM)
where can i get clean river sand,river soil something like that?....maybe need 10 kg or more......apa harga biasa bgi sekilo?.......
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You can try Chamang river. It's in Pahang if I am not mistaken. It's connected to a dam and the water is really clear. I collected some sand there 2 years ago. Gonna go collecting again in July. smile.gif

QUOTE(LuQEE @ May 31 2012, 10:27 PM)

try watching some of this vid, maybe itll help




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Mr. Takashi Amano has the best job in the world. I wonder if he needs a disciple brows.gif
My tank suddenly seems small....

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post May 31 2012, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(bettagerm @ May 31 2012, 11:01 PM)
i dont have time to collect from river....n i worry about the quality n maybe some parasite that live in there.....i want to buy from any aquarium shop......
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I just rinsed the sand once and then use it. No probem with my fishes.

Hmm.. I'm not sure if aquarium shops stock river sand. They have gravel and fine white sand. The white sand I bought at one LFS in Puchong was RM 20 for 10kg.
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post May 31 2012, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(bettagerm @ May 31 2012, 11:27 PM)
wah...so cheap.....

by the way...while searching for aquascape i found this.....

awesome!!.......

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HAHAHA! OMG! You saw this too. It's an awesome specimen. I wonder what the price tag is like.
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post Jun 2 2012, 12:14 AM

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Does anyone know where I can buuy Black Aquarium Silicone Sealant, industrial grade?
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post Jun 2 2012, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jun 2 2012, 01:19 AM)
Any difference btw silicone sealant n aquarium silicone sealant? Coz i use d one sell in hardware store before (cant remember the brand, but clear 100% silicone sealant it says) works just fine, fix the leak, n my kaloi sabah seems to be doing just fine till now...
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I read that aquarium silicone sealant is not toxic after its curing period and therefore deemed safer than normal silicone.
I'm looking for the black industrial grade (aquarium safe) silicone because it's said to be stronger, doesn't crack or shrink.
The vinegar smell is due to the acetic acid.


QUOTE(deric79k @ Jun 2 2012, 01:30 AM)
Can try ace hardware
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Alright. Will do that.

Also, do you know what type of braces are best for the 4 corners of the aquarium? Stainless steel or copper? Or any other material you think more suitable.
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post Jul 16 2012, 02:14 PM

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Question: How much does your electric bill cost each month for a chilled tank?

I'm using a Dolphin Mini - 790 and it goes up to RM 60 (24/7 running) at the temperature of 25 - 27 C.

:'(

How do you guys deal with this problem? Or is there a way to maintain the temperature without the chilller running 24/7?
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post Jul 16 2012, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Jul 16 2012, 02:21 PM)
thanks for the feedback. will try to look for it.
and what about GSA???
rm60 for the whole house or just the chiller?
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Calculated the bill, it's RM 60 for the chiller alone.


Wouldn't a bigger chiller use more electricity?
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post Jul 16 2012, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jul 16 2012, 04:10 PM)
How big is your tank...

for a 2ft tank 1/10hp chiller will do electricity inc by RM30-RM40...
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My tank is 2.5 ft, 3/4 filled. No plants, only sand, driftwood, minor plastic plants.

What is the horsepower for my Mini-790? I'm new at this. Didn't realize that the electric bill would shoot up so much. sad.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Jul 16 2012, 05:09 PM)
beer8bottles, 2.5ft go for 1/10hp or 1/6hp. using cl450 which is a 450W est consumption on a standard 4ft now, i think its a 1/6hp chiller. 2nd hand model la... cools to 26c-27c. bill maybe increased rm20-30, not too sure..

bigger hp means faster cooling and less compressor kick. thus, more energy efficient that way...

first time it took about 30-45mins to cool water from 30c/29c to 27c. then occasionally kick in about 15mins each time. maybe 3-4 times a day... for some reason, i can't get it under 25c.. maybe old model.. haha..


Added on July 16, 2012, 5:12 pmto add: like weijie said, TEM runs continuously even though the temp already cold. unless got sensor attached, it will keep cooling the water until even freezing it.... 

compressor usually got temp sensor controlled. means u set 25c, the compressor will run until that water temp is reached, then stop running (save electric!). when temp hotter maybe +/-1 or 2c of ur set temp, it will run again...

too extreme maybe... but u get the idea.. one keeps running and the other stops when the temp is reached.so over all, compressor based is usually softer on ur wallet/bill compared to TEM....
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How much would a second hand 1/10hp chiller cost? I know compressor chillers can reach almost 1K that's why I got a mini chiller. Wasn't expecting such drastic energy consumption. Now I'm thinking of selling it off.

If I use an aquarium fan (continuously running), would the bill be just as bad as having a chiller?




QUOTE(sisaiko @ Jul 16 2012, 05:23 PM)
just wonder what is relation between plastic plants n chiller??
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No, I just thought decorations would affect the rate of cooling, so I listed everything down everything that was in the tank. I am a noob.
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post Jul 16 2012, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(weijie @ Jul 16 2012, 06:26 PM)
i think sisaiko wanted to know why you want to cold down your aquarium water even you using plastic plants.
what is the main reason you want to cold down water temperature?

aquarium fan does not consume much electric
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I'm keeping paddletail salamanders. So, I want to imitate their habitat temperature as best as possible. And they uprooted the the seaweed-like water plant I put in their tank. So I used plastic plants instead.

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