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 RON 95 CAUSED DAMAGES, Rumours has been spreading around.

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jasonloh7906
post Aug 2 2012, 03:08 PM

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just dun come and say i buy my new car at 2005. pump RON97 all the time, travel a lot with RON97 without problem. after 5 years, switched to RON95, then car start to be hotter, gasket blow, aircond not cold. is very obvious edi why.
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post Aug 2 2012, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Aug 2 2012, 03:00 PM)
I also feel RON95 no good for my car...

Maybe u drive Insight u dont see any difference cause its already low performance anyway?
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and your car is???


Added on August 2, 2012, 3:33 pm
QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Aug 2 2012, 03:08 PM)
just dun come and say i buy my new car at 2005. pump RON97 all the time, travel a lot with RON97 without problem. after 5 years, switched to RON95, then car start to be hotter, gasket blow, aircond not cold. is very obvious edi why.
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The Mother of all answer you suc*ed at maintaining your car... slso the warranty is over and your car is old... things that move tend to brake....

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post Aug 2 2012, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Aug 2 2012, 03:31 PM)
The Mother of all answer you suc*ed at maintaining your car... slso the warranty is over and your car is old... things that move tend to brake....
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har?? your insight old already the ceramic brake system will brake itself ?

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post Aug 2 2012, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Aug 2 2012, 04:09 PM)
har?? your insight old already the ceramic brake system will brake itself ?
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Dude what u talking about?

He says "things that move tend to brake...."

Means car move already need to brake, if not how to stop? Reading comprehension 101 laaaaa
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post Aug 2 2012, 04:17 PM

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hahaha oops spelling error...... soli lor me no england teacher.... hang on while I go find one to check everyone grammar and error....
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post Aug 2 2012, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Aug 2 2012, 03:31 PM)
and your car is???


Added on August 2, 2012, 3:33 pm

The Mother of all answer you suc*ed at maintaining your car... slso the warranty is over and your car is old... things that move tend to brake....
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He wasn't replying to you and he wasn't talking about his car or your car. If you had read this topic from the start instead in jumping in half way you would know what he was referring to about the 'air con' not cold part.

Can you guys please quote who you are replying too as you guys are all getting confused jumping in halfway into a topic.?

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post Aug 2 2012, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Aug 2 2012, 02:29 PM)
your car RX8, of course la tongue.gif
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Err...that and my old wish.. Lol

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post Aug 2 2012, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(mutt @ Aug 2 2012, 02:11 AM)
dude, US of A still using RON91 but never heard they have engine problem due to the RON they use. They even run on high powered car like EVO and what I've read from their car magz,  a 400whp EVO8 running on RON91 without issue. The key is tuning.


Added on August 2, 2012, 2:12 aminb4 their RON91 is higher grade which match with our RON97
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US octane rating is different
Their octane rating is,well octane rating
They take MON(Motor Octane Number) + RON(Research Octane Number) than divided by 2
While most other part of the world use RON

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post Aug 2 2012, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ May 21 2012, 05:36 PM)
i stopped using Shell95 cos my car underpowered like shit... some more engine roars so loud like it wants to die doh.gif

Petronas 95 better, i will pump RON97, almost every 10 RON95 fuel ups
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I started using Shell RON95 a few months ago and I also felt my engine to be underpower . Prior to this I use Petronas RON95 . I think I want to change back to Petronas or try Caltex to see if there is any change .

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post Aug 3 2012, 05:07 AM

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shell promotes fuelsave 95. they purposely make their fuel underpower so that it discourage u from going faster, flooring the pedal harder and burning more fuel, how u think u can save 1 litre for every full tank poured ?
im still waiting for 50 cents coins to follow my car.... so far no luck..


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post Aug 3 2012, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Aug 2 2012, 12:48 PM)
He's asking how you come to the conclusion that compression ratio directly determines the RON usage. The site does not explain that because compression ratio is just a static component measured at TDC. Static compression ratio alone does not determine the RON usage.

Ignition timing plays a bigger part as the more aggressive the timing, the higher the RON is required to prevent detonation even though there is no change to the static compression ratio.

As for CPS lower compression ratio, that is not due to reduced timing as stated by you.
Every engine can only have 1 static compression ratio as that is determined by the shape of the piston. In the CFE, the piston is changed to reduce the compression ratio from 10.1 to 8.9 without changing the length of the conrods. Ignition timing DOES NOT change static compression ratios. Therefore the campro CFE static compression ratio is 8.9 and not a variable 8.9 to 10.1. THis is static compression ratios we are talking about, not dynamic. That would be another story and another topic.
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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Aug 3 2012, 05:07 AM)
shell promotes fuelsave 95. they purposely make their fuel underpower so that it discourage u from going faster, flooring the pedal harder and burning more fuel, how u think u can save 1 litre for every full tank poured ?
im still waiting for 50 cents coins to follow my car.... so far no luck..
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i think it will make it worse... normal people will accelerate harder if the car is underpower thus consumes even more fuel doh.gif
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post Aug 3 2012, 01:50 PM

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I do agree that different brand on ron95 makes a difference. My old (>10years) car has less knocking with caltex (more fueal save)/esso compare to previous generation petronas ron95, then I stick to caltex ever since. I think the current petronas ron95 has improved as i just tested with other old car, smooth though but forgot to calculcate the milage...
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post Aug 15 2012, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(alxdc @ Jul 30 2012, 01:25 AM)
Wow suddenly this topic become hot again. Ok guys despite all the theories, do you realizes (some of u will shoot me for this question). Using Ron 95 your engine bay gets hotter? I meAn just stand infront of your car after a drive. U will be surprise to feel the very  warm heat that I never experience before when I was using 97. I have been using 97 for a year. Then try out 95. No doubt 95 makes the the engine raw and no power and sometimes I can hear my engine pings. I have been using 95 for 6 full tanks. I can tell that 95 is not a pleasant fuel to drive. It just make too much noise and sluggish. In long run it may damage my car. After using back 97. Everything goes back smooth and normal. Oh yeah and the engine bay warm temputure. When back to normal. No more very hot sensation.


Added on July 30, 2012, 1:38 am
Is it 98? That is what I heard.
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Fu yoh...this guy here has built in termometer...wonder if you can tell if the environmental temperature changes as well while u were standing in front of your car?


Added on August 15, 2012, 10:44 pm
QUOTE(keanutan @ Jul 31 2012, 08:55 PM)
then ur car can use ron95 mine dont know why cannot .. i travel a lot before the launch of ron95 my car no problem not new car second hand local car .. before the ron95 use for 5 years no single problem service every 5k fully syn .. after ron95 use no more then 2 years gasket blow . oil leaking from distributor .. engine become hot . some will say it is coincidence .. i dont know i just dont trust our ron95 .. ur car use ron95 no problem u can continue to use i didnt force u ..

now my old car still use ron 95 bcos already know what need to service every year before the problem come out..

new car no ron95 ron 97 all the times .. u say it a waste to use ron97 if the car can use ron95 . not for me .. i rather pay extra now then have problem later that all .
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For me quite the opposite wor..RON 97 is very damaging to my tyres..wears off faster...only last for 3 months, and my tyres also catches fire due to the friction , RON 97 very powderfull..if using ron 95 can last 6 months..no power ma..sluggish.. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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post Aug 16 2012, 12:52 PM

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What i heard from oil and gas people who work on fuel process, they said RON95 is low quality. RON97 is better.
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post Aug 16 2012, 02:42 PM

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When I use RON97 my car become so powderful it actually make the earth spin faster when I drive causing shorter days.

After much calculation I've found that on average it will shorten the day by 4 minutes 8 seconds, increasing the Earth average rotational speed from 1669.8 km/h to 1670 km/h.

So please use RON95, otherwise we end up with 20 hrs day if everybody use RON97.


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post Aug 16 2012, 04:35 PM

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normal engine can run ron95..even my airtrek turbo can run ron95, just can't vrrom vrrrojmm too much. high rpm will knock and engine will retard timing..the only damage is my ego only when i see a kancil overtake me sweat.gif

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Just switched to shell RON97 after using RON95 for 1-2 years(Honda City), the different in term of power is obvious enough and engine is more silence compare before.
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post Aug 20 2012, 05:11 AM

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QUOTE(~C.W.S~ @ Aug 16 2012, 05:01 PM)
Just switched to shell RON97 after using RON95 for 1-2 years(Honda City), the different in term of power is obvious enough and engine is more silence compare before.
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As mentioned many times before, if your ECU can adjust the ignition timing automatically then you may feel the difference using better RON fuel (burn more efficiently) hence more performance...

Using lesser RON = that may cause pre-mature combustion aka KNOCKING / PINGING and normally in modern engines the ECU would auto retard the ignition timing to prevent your engine destroyed itself.

Easy as ABC right? icon_rolleyes.gif
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RON95 saves my $ but damage my car

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