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post May 19 2012, 12:49 PM, updated 14y ago

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It is a good game, but not the "Diablo" that most of the fans know.

Taken from the article:

" ... strong reason for concern. Today, Blizzard is not the same company it was a decade ago — most of the talent that worked on Diablo and Diablo 2 is long gone. Left with World of Warcraft developers to make Diablo 3, it’s no surprise that up and until a couple of months ago, Blizzard was still iterating on core game systems at a time when it should have been working on balance and content. But most alarming of all, Blizzard has broken its most sacred of mantras: “When it’s ready,” and is releasing an incomplete product. "


The writer sums up what I felt about Diablo 3.

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post May 19 2012, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(evolance7 @ May 19 2012, 12:49 PM)
It is a good game, but not the "Diablo" that most of the fans know.

Taken from the article:

" ...  strong reason for concern. Today, Blizzard is not the same company it was a decade ago — most of the talent that worked on Diablo and Diablo 2 is long gone. Left with World of Warcraft developers to make Diablo 3, it’s no surprise that up and until a couple of months ago, Blizzard was still iterating on core game systems at a time when it should have been working on balance and content. But most alarming of all, Blizzard has broken its most sacred of mantras: “When it’s ready,” and is releasing an incomplete product. "
The writer sums up what I felt about Diablo 3.

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Sums up why the game different than diablo2
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post May 19 2012, 12:54 PM

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diablo 3 is an epic game , just like from god of war 2 to god of war 3 , more brutal , better gameplay and graphic . i still love this game
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post May 19 2012, 12:54 PM

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lol ..sure different ~ la one is diablo 2 .. one is diablo 3 ..story line changed a bit .. and in the main playing this game is slain DIABLO .. same ? lol..
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post May 19 2012, 12:55 PM

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also sums up why the maps are identical level to level!~
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post May 19 2012, 12:57 PM

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D3 is not the diablo series i wan.... so different than wat i expect
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post May 19 2012, 12:58 PM

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easy option or description for newbie that do not play diablo 2 before and start diablo 3 ?ask them(Reviewer ) develop own game please ..biggrin.gif
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post May 19 2012, 01:09 PM

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post May 19 2012, 01:11 PM

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i can now understand the feeling of Fallout 1 and 2 fans when they play Fallout 3....

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post May 19 2012, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(karwaidotnet @ May 19 2012, 01:11 PM)
i can now understand the feeling of Fallout 1 and 2 fans when they play Fallout 3....
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Yes, glad you did. imagine if Half-life 3 would be made not by Valve but other studio. doh.gif It still can be good but, fans will feel a bit off.
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post May 19 2012, 01:33 PM

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Hmmm.. Sounds like u wan same shit but in different day? Just saying..no offence.
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post May 19 2012, 01:39 PM

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Improved shit in different day. Just don't give me a moose instead of my usual shit.

Maybe shit on a ribbon, or shit that have thorns coming out of it when I shit it out.

Just not a moose. I don't need a moose. I want my shit.
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post May 19 2012, 02:02 PM

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still better than EA
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post May 19 2012, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 19 2012, 03:02 PM)
still better than EA
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No it's not.

This is worse than EA.
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post May 19 2012, 02:13 PM

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yeap agreed. but it's still okay though
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post May 19 2012, 02:22 PM

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post May 19 2012, 02:25 PM

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for me i think any new series should have new things in it that will make it special then the previous version and not just transition from 2D to 3D. Why need to pay such a heavy price to play a game we play before with a similar style but in 3D?

But seeing how starcraft 2 is such a succes despite being a clone of starcraft 1, the formula has been crafted and proven. Why not roll with it and rip the rewards while the brand name is still strong?

having said that, i hope the new follow up will fix this, new awesome classes maybe and lets just hope the pvp will be something that will be jaw dropping.

business wise, brilliant. Gamer wise, mehhhh.....
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post May 19 2012, 04:40 PM

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Truthfully, I hope they left the "warp-between-arc" system alone....

or did I miss the easy method without need to leave game and change quest?
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post May 19 2012, 06:23 PM

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I have played D1, crazy on D2. This Disblo 3 feels different. Feels like playing Warcraft at times.

Not as awesome as Diablo 2. Fall short of expectation.
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post May 19 2012, 06:29 PM

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At first i was expecting complex skill tree + manual attribute allocation, which made me play D2 for a long period. For one class you can have different build for it.

Well this preset skills + attribute are making the games easier to play, but lost some fun at the same time.. For me, that is the biggest drawback..
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Sorry but i disagree with his point.. Beyond all reason i am glad that diablo 3 is diablo 3.. Not diablo 2 2.0.. Why?

1stly it bring new element and way to play . I have played a lot of diablo 2 clones... titan quest, sacred to name a few but was dissapointed with its gameplay...

2ndly it still kinda have that dark errie setting.. And the gore too.. Thats diablo to me..

I agree that the game was overhype.. And the always online was annoying.. But still can live with it.. I already paid for the game.. Might as well enjoy it..
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Sorry but i disagree with his point.. Beyond all reason i am glad that diablo 3 is diablo 3.. Not diablo 2 2.0.. Why?

1stly it bring new element and way to play . I have played a lot of diablo 2 clones... titan quest, sacred to name a few but was dissapointed with its gameplay...

2ndly it still kinda have that dark errie setting.. And the gore too.. Thats diablo to me..

I agree that the game was overhype.. And the always online was annoying.. But still can live with it.. I already paid for the game.. Might as well enjoy it.


This. I agree fully.

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post May 19 2012, 07:02 PM

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I dont mind always online drm for authentication because your latency wont affect your solo gameplay, but when you're putting loots or monster spawns on the servers......

LOL, my barbarian keep slashing empty spaces. zzzzz. so freaking annoying.
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post May 19 2012, 07:03 PM

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Diablo 2 is quite different compared to Diablo 1 and people still love it.

I don't see why Diablo 3 should be like Diablo 2.

And yeah, much better than EA lol.
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i'm more disappointed with this thread's title.
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post May 19 2012, 07:10 PM

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Yeah biggrin.gif What does "Real" diablo fan mean?

Are there fake diablo fans around?
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post May 19 2012, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(radkliler @ May 19 2012, 02:08 PM)
No it's not.

This is worse than EA.
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post May 19 2012, 08:07 PM

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I actually enjoyed playing the game.

If you dont like it, gimme your account lah? --- just kidding.
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seriously. Make too much changes, and people like these appear. Don't make changes, then another bunch will rise and shoot. Chillax lar just play the game zzz
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QUOTE(khelben @ May 19 2012, 07:03 PM)
Diablo 2 is quite different compared to Diablo 1 and people still love it.

I don't see why Diablo 3 should be like Diablo 2.

And yeah, much better than EA lol.
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in the end those whiners gonna play it

any major boycotts for d3 yet? sumthg like mw2 dedicated server issue time
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blizz should majke Diablo 2 Enhanced Edition for those whiners tongue.gif
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The story of my cousin... one of the most ardent Diablo 3 player, currently studying abroad. He bought the game via the official site, whatever its called (I am out of the D3 picture, coz, I'm not into it). He said it is one of the worst games he has ever played. Every few minutes or so the screen would blank out. When it does work, it disconnects. When it doesn't disconnect, it lags. When all is well, server maintenance. That's what he said. Most likely I told him it is the internet connection there but he said the speed 'downloads everything in seconds'. So I am not so sure what the hype is all about or whether it is just a rare case of not being able to play for even a good few minutes. He has quite a beefy Dell XPS lappy so performance is not an issue.

I heard rumors the game has 10% of it on the Blizzard server which means on-the-fly updates, so I think a good internet connection would do the trick and should not really cause any blank screen/lag. nod.gif If this is not the case then the game might have a good update coming soon to sort out all the problems. I checked on Metacritic and looks like the 0/10 review strike is back. Comments from "Fail", "Worst game ever played", "Will never buy another Blizzard game"... maybe they just sark at the game? tongue.gif


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Feel like playing DoTA. Finding combo to beat thy game. Plus can do combo with fren. And oh yeah, item dependent. Wow. Sure like DoTA. And the story... Short???
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post May 19 2012, 11:31 PM

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When I played Max Payne 1 to Max Payne 2 (Feels awesome)
Recently, Max Payne 2 to Max Payne 3 (Holy Crap, this is Awesome)


When I played Diablo 1 to Diablo 2 (Holy Crap, this is Awesome)
Recently, Diablo 2 to Diablo 3 (Good, but it doesn't feel right)

And also, For the first time Blizzard broke their ""when it's done" approach for a game of this status.

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The only thing i am disappointing is the constant online with shitty server sweat.gif

I still have lots of fun in D3. smile.gif
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QUOTE(evolance7 @ May 19 2012, 11:31 PM)
When I played Max Payne 1 to Max Payne 2 (Feels awesome)
Recently, Max Payne 2 to Max Payne 3 (Holy Crap, this is Awesome)
When I played Diablo 1 to Diablo 2 (Holy Crap, this is Awesome)
Recently, Diablo 2 to Diablo 3 (Good, but it doesn't feel right)

And also, For the first time Blizzard broke their ""when it's done" approach for a game of this status.
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D3 is made by WOW developers, tat xplains y. sad.gif

WOW is blizz/activision's pet project/cash cow
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what i know about the diablo series is that D1 and D2 is radically different. just like D3 and D2. im disgusted with these so called "real" fans whining how D3 is different compared to D2 and doesn't deserve the Diablo title just because of that.
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D3 is so much easier compare to the previous ones, which i don't find D3 amaze me in anyway, or should i say its overhyped.
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QUOTE(kEazYc @ May 20 2012, 10:27 AM)
D3 is so much easier compare to the previous ones, which i don't find D3 amaze me in anyway, or should i say its overhyped.
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how hard was diablo 2 really since you can spam potions and lifeleech your way to the end?
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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ May 20 2012, 10:47 AM)
how hard was diablo 2 really since you can spam potions and lifeleech your way to the end?
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We are talking about rune combinations here bro lol, and also complicated skill tree, gameplay is much more harder > D3.
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QUOTE(kEazYc @ May 20 2012, 10:50 AM)
We are talking about rune combinations here bro lol, and also complicated skill tree, gameplay is much more harder > D3.
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oh yes googling for rune combinations and cookie cutter builds is really challenging. in diablo 3 i actually have to think what combination of skills to use for different situations instead of spamming the same skill my build is currently specced to. real hard walking around to see your enemy froze and die as a druid. i dont even have to click the enemy to kill them. i have to actually manage my resource generation by mixing skills that generate them and skills that spends them. i dont have to do that in diablo 2. i just hook up a line from the belt and guzzle my potions to spam all my way to victory. much more harder? really?
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QUOTE(kEazYc @ May 20 2012, 10:50 AM)
We are talking about rune combinations here bro lol, and also complicated skill tree, gameplay is much more harder > D3.
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Runes were only include on D2:LOD, you can complaint that after D3:EXP out.
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QUOTE(kEazYc @ May 20 2012, 10:50 AM)
We are talking about rune combinations here bro lol, and also complicated skill tree, gameplay is much more harder > D3.
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i might want to add, whats "hard" in diablo 2 is not the gameplay itself. it's the process of preparing your character before you actually play the game. diablo 3 put more focus in playing the game itself. while stats and skill tree is not actually gone entirely. it's just presented in a different form.
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This thread is so golden. Let me just left this here. Taken from - people hated Diablo II at launch as well

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I dont mean to offend anyone's idea's about the game, but my opinion is that it is the LAMEST EXCUSE FOR A SEQUEL TO THE GAME OF THE YEAR! The original Diablo is better than this !@#$!! USEast and USWest NEVER EVER CONNECTS unless ur VERY VERY LUCKY and even then, in about 5 minutes, it says "Connection was Interrupted."

Then, what pisses me off is that I have to resort to connecting to EUROPE and when I play there (or one time on the USWest Realm), the lag is HORRIBLE. My character would be running through the woods one second and the next, it would be DEAD BECAUSE THE LAG FROZE EVERYTHING AND A MONSTER HAD KILLED ME WITHOUT GIVING ME A CHANCE TO FIGHT BACK. And it's not my computer's fault (DSL, 750 Mhz, more than enough RAM, Sound cards and Video Cards tested and works at Maximum capabilities), so don't reply flaming back about that. The graphics are worse than the original one from 1996 ( those pixels make it unproportional and the coloring is really odd).

Last, when I get my connection interrupted or leave a game, the data is NO LONGER on battle.net!! I have to start as a level 1 person all over again!! And it still won't connect! I reload it, and it gives this little blinking "typing line" (like at the edge of something u've just typed up) and then that annoying sound when sumthing locks up....WUT KIND OF CRAPPY %^-* IS THIS?? Blizzard.com doesnt even connect to allow me to post this crap on their forums..let alone see the Front Page...

~Person who wasted $49.99 on sum bull!@#$

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Diablo 2 = Ultima 9?

Too many parallels between these games as far as botched support issues(the 3dfx "tilt" is the #1 issue). With all of the reports of the bugged higher difficulty levels, I'm beginning to wonder if there really is a reason to play thru the higher difficulties. I don't like the penalties on higher difficulty with losing hard-won experience points, so unless that gets fixed(probably never in order to keep the "mood" from their perspective) I don't see much for replayability value.

There's also the fact that the game had a patch almost immediately after release, which could indicate two things. Either a rushed release(which seems the most likely), or they they knew a number of issues from the stress test or beta(but could not implement them before release). HOPEFULLY(but I'm not holding my breath here) gameplay and difficulty issues will be addressed in future patches, but I have to wonder how much design work on the inevitable add-on/expansion will affect the much-needed patches(and so far the 1.02 patch is bugged, so hopefully that was just a flub and not some inadequate QA).

This will be the true test of Blizzard's commitment to quality, and will show if the "evil suit" approach(release games in a buggy state in order to assure sales) has happened to a company that so far(until Diablo 2 anyway) had quality releases.

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I really enjoyed Diablo single player, and I thought even with all the talk of PK, I can at least avoid that by having a good time playing single player. Unfortunately, the design decisions have basically ruined the single player experience.

Why do I say that? You can no longer save single player games, you can only save single players *characters*.

That's why there is only a "save and exit" option, and no "save" option. Because the game isn't saved, only the character is. So it doesn't matter how far along you are in the dungeon, you can't save the game, if you "save and exit" and reload later, your character will still retain his exp points, his possessions, but you have to reclear all the dungeons all over again. What's worse, you start up in town again, and have to go all the way to where it was you were when you saved, even the town portals I opened back to town just prior to saving isn't remembered.

So essentially there is no single player game, the single player game experience is really just playing the multiplayer game by yourself.

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Even so, a single sp save file would probably take up no more than 12MB (in Diablo 1, a level 16 save file takes about 3MB, and supposedly each act in D2 is the size of the original game, and there are four acts, so I leave the rest of the math to you). While I don't deny that 12MB is large, it's hardly anything compared to the game's 650MB installation requirement. Given that, even if a save file took up 50 MB it wouldn't be totally unreasonable. Furthermore, much of the data need not be stored but rather can be recreated from the seed, but Blizzard didn't do this with Diablo 1 either, perhaps to keep the loading times down.

As could arguably be said about Diablo 2 as a whole, Blizzard got lazy and did a sloppy job in this respect. The most honest and likely reason for the lack of real save games is: it was easier to just recycle the exact same code for both modes.

I hate to admit it just as much as anyone, but Blizzard's Game of the Year streak has come to an end.

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QUOTE(angeldothack @ May 20 2012, 11:21 AM)
This thread is so golden. Let me just left this here. Taken from - people hated Diablo II at launch as well
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So much win in one post. In summary, people are unhappy because d3 is not a d2 clone
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QUOTE(farkinid @ May 20 2012, 12:06 PM)
So much win in one post. In summary, people are unhappy because d3 is not a d2 clone
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i really feel like farking up blizzard. This game is so damm immature and ala casual style. They did this to complement with the young kids nowadays to meet their demands. How bout our experience during D2? Totally ignored. They took the team from WoW and developed D3. Its so fking similar as i played WoW before. I thought D3 could revoked the old feelings but mana tau, its only a WoW single player. No aspect that i can see in this game is on par with a release in 2012 nor have a privillege to carry the name of "Diablo"
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I've read the critics reviews on Metacritic, and then nearly a hundred or so user reviews. The contrast is mighty huge.

I noticed something very eerie - the critics reviews does dwell on the flaws that the low rated comments from users have given BUT they are almost too afraid to give it a bad score. hmm.gif

Personally I feel the good scores from critics are due to how everything has been overhyped. After all, it has been a 10 year wait... how not to give it a bad score.

If this is a trend of future gaming, then it is really sad. One user feedback "If it ain't broken, don't fix it. Having spent years playing D1 and D2, why can't I feel the same for D3?"





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I love the game..u dont like? fine..go play other games. I dont mind
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I hope you people realise that the game design is lead by Jay Wilson. He is not known for making carbon copies of previous games, but he loves to change pretty much all the mechanics in a game. Also, its not the WoW team who made this game, but the influence is certainly there.

He turned RTS conventional designs upside down with Dawn of War 1 at Relic, with emphasis on map control, squad system, cover and morale system. Then, a few years later, he changed the RTS formula entirely again with Company of Heroes by adding features like destructible environments, directional armor for tanks, command tree, even more emphasis on map control and so on.

Due to Jay's previous work on Relic, i never expected that Diablo 3 will be exactly the same as Diablo 2. He likes to change things around, a lot, by removing some of the defining features of a ARPG like stats allocation and skill points. As far as i know, Jay Wilson wants to innovate the genre, not keeping the ARPG stale like how boring most MMO are these days. Also, in my opinion, this is a very healthy sign for the ARPG genre, as pretty much all major ARPG developers are trying to break away from the old design.

With my 20 hours of playtime in Diablo 3, i say, he did a pretty good job.Most changes like the "stupid" skill unlock tree or no stats allocation has been pretty good changes for me so far, even though it seem a bit dumb downed on paper. In practise, it works very well, at least for me. I have also enjoyed the art style, which looks whole lot like a faded watercolor paint drawing, while the atmosphere is awesome. I'll take back the complaint on the art style is not gritty or Diablo enough.

I still have my criticism on the game, namely the Always Online shit with lots of sugar coating. It's annoying. In addition to that, i felt that the game does have some serious problem, especially in terms of longevity as the Jeweler and Blacksmith could not offer enough depth and longevity as Diablo 2's gambling system or how the archaic skill system. Something is missing here, but i dont know how to fix it.

If you are really disappointed with Diablo 3, buy Torchlight 2 then because the game feels hell lot more like Diablo 2 than Diablo 3 to Diablo 2. And the game is made by some of the founders of Blizzard North/ Condor Games. The pet and skill system is pretty amazing too, as far as i can tell in the beta.

Or just wait for Grim Dawn, if you want some really difficult ARPG game, with some new innovations like faction system, open world design like Skyrim and unforgiving gameplay.

I pretty much pre-ordered/ bought all 3 of them, because each of the game offer something radically different on the table.
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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ May 20 2012, 12:23 PM)
i really feel like farking up blizzard. This game is so damm immature and ala casual style. They did this to complement with the young kids nowadays to meet their demands. How bout our experience during D2? Totally ignored. They took the team from WoW and developed D3. Its so fking similar as i played WoW before. I thought D3 could revoked the old feelings but mana tau, its only a WoW single player. No aspect that i can see in this game is on par with a release in 2012 nor have a privillege to carry the name of "Diablo"
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So... Just out of curiousity. Would you WHINE if they created a game that are exactly the same as D2?

E.G: Same style. Same character. Same Gameplay. Same System.

Essentially, I would say, they only added new map.

WILL you buy it then? Or whine that there is no improvement?
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 20 2012, 12:52 PM)
I hope you people realise that the game design is lead by Jay Wilson. He is not known for making carbon copies of previous games, but he loves to change pretty much all the mechanics in a game. Also, its not the WoW team who made this game, but the influence is certainly there.

He turned RTS conventional designs upside down with Dawn of War 1 at Relic, with emphasis on map control, squad system, cover and morale system. Then, a few years later, he changed the RTS formula entirely again with Company of Heroes by adding features like destructible environments, directional armor for tanks, command tree, even more emphasis on map control and so on.

Due to Jay's previous work on Relic, i never expected that Diablo 3 will be exactly the same as Diablo 2. He likes to change things around, a lot, by removing some of the defining features of a ARPG like stats allocation and skill points. As far as i know, Jay Wilson wants to innovate the genre, not keeping the ARPG stale like how boring most MMO are these days. Also, in my opinion, this is a very healthy sign for the ARPG genre, as pretty much all major ARPG developers are trying to break away from the old design.

With my 20 hours of playtime in Diablo 3, i say, he did a pretty good job.Most changes like the "stupid" skill unlock tree or no stats allocation has been pretty good changes for me so far, even though it seem a bit dumb downed on paper. In practise, it works very well, at least for me. I have also enjoyed the art style, which looks whole lot like a faded watercolor paint drawing, while the atmosphere is awesome. I'll take back the complaint on the art style is not gritty or Diablo enough.

I still have my criticism on the game, namely the Always Online shit with lots of sugar coating. It's annoying. In addition to that, i felt that the game does have some serious problem, especially in terms of longevity as the Jeweler and Blacksmith could not offer enough depth and longevity as Diablo 2's gambling system or how the archaic skill system. Something is missing here, but i dont know how to fix it.

If you are really disappointed with Diablo 3,  buy Torchlight 2 then because the game feels hell lot more like Diablo 2 than Diablo 3 to Diablo 2. And the game is made by some of the founders of Blizzard North/ Condor Games. The pet and skill system is pretty amazing too, as far as i can tell in the beta.

Or just wait for Grim Dawn, if you want some really difficult ARPG game, with some new innovations like faction system, open world design like Skyrim and unforgiving gameplay.

I pretty much pre-ordered/ bought all 3 of them, because each of the game offer something radically different on the table.
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i can now understand the feeling of Fallout 1 and 2 fans when they play Fallout 3....
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just like i felt when fallout 3 came. it was a complete sadness for me. i always expect they will maintain the gameplay style. lucky blizzard didnt change diablo style like WOW or fallout 3. im enjoying this kind of graphic n view. a cure to sadness of fallout laugh.gif
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My 2 cents. I have not played WoW before and so I do no understand the nature of that game. I have however played Diablo 2 for many many years and made many casual PvM/hack&slash characters, and I've enjoyed the experience thoroughly.

Like everyone else I was hyped to play Diablo 3 and I was not disappointed. Gone were the days of the rigid build and/or cookie cutters where skills can be mixed and matched and stats can be reallocated through items. This essentially shifts the focus of the game more onto the experience, if you don't like it, you can always mix it up. This places more emphasis on gameplay strategy especially with potion cooldown.

The inability to play the game without an internet connection is disappointing. I'm sure the devs have their reasons for this, but at the same time having the game online makes it more intuitive. I guess AH is made as a replacement to gamling ala D2 and it still needs a little improvement, however I do not feel that is a dealbreaker to me.

Playing D3 with friends online have been fun, and I can definitely see myself playing this for the next couple years!
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Naturally I can't offer any constructive views on the game as I've yet to play it, but from visiting various forums and watching countless gameplay videos on YouTube, I can safely conclude that it's not the game I want. You can say all you want that it's not Diablo 2 2.0, but it's the unfortunate truth that that's what most of us Diablo fans want. And again sadly, I now know why Call of Duty sells well even if it's just the same iteration every year, they can't afford to lose customers by risking too many design changes, but I digress.

Sure I'll be playing the game, I never miss playing big releases of the year, but what would it prove when you have this RPG that is a shadow of it's former self (again, entirely my own opinion) when I can get Torchlight 2 AND Grim Dawn, of which advertised since the get go to scratch that Diablo itch Diablo 3 would never do, for two thirds of D3's price, MINUS the always online DRM?

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The story of my cousin... one of the most ardent Diablo 3 player, currently studying abroad. He bought the game via the official site, whatever its called (I am out of the D3 picture, coz, I'm not into it). He said it is one of the worst games he has ever played. Every few minutes or so the screen would blank out. When it does work, it disconnects. When it doesn't disconnect, it lags. When all is well, server maintenance. That's what he said. Most likely I told him it is the internet connection there but he said the speed 'downloads everything in seconds'. So I am not so sure what the hype is all about or whether it is just a rare case of not being able to play for even a good few minutes. He has quite a beefy Dell XPS lappy so performance is not an issue.

I heard rumors the game has 10% of it on the Blizzard server which means on-the-fly updates, so I think a good internet connection would do the trick and should not really cause any blank screen/lag.  nod.gif  If this is not the case then the game might have a good update coming soon to sort out all the problems. I checked on Metacritic and looks like the 0/10 review strike is back. Comments from "Fail", "Worst game ever played", "Will never buy another Blizzard game"... maybe they just sark at the game?  tongue.gif
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seriously, never heard of that lol
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driver crash, maybe?

but that's pc problem, not the game.
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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ May 20 2012, 01:21 PM)
driver crash, maybe?

but that's pc problem, not the game.
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QUOTE(angeldothack @ May 20 2012, 11:21 AM)
This thread is so golden. Let me just left this here. Taken from - people hated Diablo II at launch as well
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I played from D1 , D2 and D3. But i am glad things in D3 is refreshing rather than playing another old system that i will sure get tired of it. So i guess i ain't a "real" fan Diablo huh?

People sometimes need to stop dwelling in Nostalgia.
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QUOTE(angeldothack @ May 20 2012, 11:21 AM)
This thread is so golden. Let me just left this here. Taken from - people hated Diablo II at launch as well
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well i guess, haters.. gon' hate..

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-short story, more geared to multiplayer
-dumbed down(?) gameplay
-sequel has minimal similarities for previous series.

this is actually, a more 'global' problem, not just in D3.
the reason? simple. because when business-oriented person leads a game company, it will ruined. just like what happen in games we played these 2-3 years.

because they only care about money. screw players, they will buy what we throw at them. same thing to music,film,politics, blablabla.

in the end
do they care about you hating D3? HELL NO.
do they care about you loving D3? HELL YES, IF YOU GONNA BUY THEIR NEXT EXPANSION.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 20 2012, 12:52 PM)
I hope you people realise that the game design is lead by Jay Wilson. He is not known for making carbon copies of previous games, but he loves to change pretty much all the mechanics in a game. Also, its not the WoW team who made this game, but the influence is certainly there.

He turned RTS conventional designs upside down with Dawn of War 1 at Relic, with emphasis on map control, squad system, cover and morale system. Then, a few years later, he changed the RTS formula entirely again with Company of Heroes by adding features like destructible environments, directional armor for tanks, command tree, even more emphasis on map control and so on.

Due to Jay's previous work on Relic, i never expected that Diablo 3 will be exactly the same as Diablo 2. He likes to change things around, a lot, by removing some of the defining features of a ARPG like stats allocation and skill points. As far as i know, Jay Wilson wants to innovate the genre, not keeping the ARPG stale like how boring most MMO are these days. Also, in my opinion, this is a very healthy sign for the ARPG genre, as pretty much all major ARPG developers are trying to break away from the old design.

With my 20 hours of playtime in Diablo 3, i say, he did a pretty good job.Most changes like the "stupid" skill unlock tree or no stats allocation has been pretty good changes for me so far, even though it seem a bit dumb downed on paper. In practise, it works very well, at least for me. I have also enjoyed the art style, which looks whole lot like a faded watercolor paint drawing, while the atmosphere is awesome. I'll take back the complaint on the art style is not gritty or Diablo enough.

I still have my criticism on the game, namely the Always Online shit with lots of sugar coating. It's annoying. In addition to that, i felt that the game does have some serious problem, especially in terms of longevity as the Jeweler and Blacksmith could not offer enough depth and longevity as Diablo 2's gambling system or how the archaic skill system. Something is missing here, but i dont know how to fix it.

If you are really disappointed with Diablo 3,  buy Torchlight 2 then because the game feels hell lot more like Diablo 2 than Diablo 3 to Diablo 2. And the game is made by some of the founders of Blizzard North/ Condor Games. The pet and skill system is pretty amazing too, as far as i can tell in the beta.

Or just wait for Grim Dawn, if you want some really difficult ARPG game, with some new innovations like faction system, open world design like Skyrim and unforgiving gameplay.

I pretty much pre-ordered/ bought all 3 of them, because each of the game offer something radically different on the table.
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Well said bro, just relax and enjoy the game, innovative is a good thing to have. smile.gif

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QUOTE(evolance7 @ May 19 2012, 12:49 PM)
It is a good game, but not the "Diablo" that most of the fans know.

Taken from the article:

" ...  most of the talent that worked on Diablo and Diablo 2 is long gone. ..
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Because the designers of Diablo 1 and 2 go out and created torchlight. I played both d3 and torchlight 2 and i like torchlight 2 more than d3. Torchlight 2 'feels' more diablo than diablo 3. That being said i will buy d3 just for the sake of nostalgic and waiting for torchlight 2. Already finished the Beta and rerolling as engineer nao.

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Another well reasoned comment by Cheesenium. Thanks, Problem is people sometimes get too attached to the "Game" (played way too long, lol). I mean look at CS 1.6. They're still asking CS 2.0 lol even when CSS and CS:GO are supposedly the game's successor.

QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ May 20 2012, 02:43 PM)
Because the designers of Diablo 1 and 2 go out and created torchlight.  I played both d3 and  torchlight  2 and i like  torchlight  2 more than d3. Torchlight 2 'feels' more diablo than diablo 3. That being said i will buy d3 just for the sake of nostalgic and waiting for torchlight 2. Already finished the Beta and rerolling as engineer nao.
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I am also currently testing out Torchlight 2 beta. Tears went out my eyes when I heard the musics. smile.gif
Pre-ordered it weeks ago.

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hi, being waiting for your post in this subforum. too busy with D3? biggrin.gif

btw, your comments thumbup.gif
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Lol, more like juggling between Torchlight 2 Beta and D3. Both are awesome in their own ways and at least ARPG havent get to the point of modern military shooter staleness. Feel like Diablo 3 is taking most of my time from Torchlight 2.

I got a level 25 Monk, a level 17 Demon Hunter and a level 13 Barbarian. Considered quite slow if you compare with other people. And i spent so much time wondering around each map to explore everything.

QUOTE(evolance7 @ May 20 2012, 04:14 PM)
Another well reasoned comment by Cheesenium. Thanks, Problem is people sometimes get too attached to the "Game" (played way too long, lol). I mean look at CS 1.6. They're still asking CS 2.0 lol even when CSS and CS:GO are supposedly the game's successor.
I am also currently testing out Torchlight 2 beta. Tears went out my eyes when I heard the musics.  smile.gif
Pre-ordered it weeks ago.
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In my opinion, i find the CS community to be very negative to any changes which i dont think what the gaming industry should be. Games should be constantly iterating, not being stale. I bet with you, even if Valve upgrade the CS 1.6 with the Dota 2 engine, they will still complain because the graphics is different.

I have played CS:GO Beta, briefly, and i really like some of the changes so far. De_Dust 2 looks awesome, by the way.

I do not think anyone should be attached to a particular game, as there are always flaws in a game that can be rectified with a sequel. The most important thing is, no game is perfect, regardless which developer made it. As much as i want a classic Need for Speed remake, i mean Need for Speed 2, not the garbage Hot Pursuit 2010, it will never happen. I have moved on since, to find another awesome racing game.

Torchlight 2 is indeed great so far in the Beta. There one notable thing that i really liked is the smooth movement system in coop while Diablo 3 has some sort of microlag when you move, attack or casting spell. Engineer class is really fun to play, as i like those small deployables that he can summon.

I think Runic improved on the music by leaps and bounds in Torchlight 2, as it is a lot darker and atmospheric now. I find Torchlight 1 to be a bit too cheerful, feels like playing Worms ARPG or something, because the art style feels similar to Worms for me.
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Think the game core is incomplete, portal cannot take the char to different act must be done from the game menu instead, why?

Some rare mobs simply cannot be tank or kite let alone solo it.... since rare mob states r randomly generated in hell difficulty i find some mob just like that and we just leave game and make a new one and prey.....

Auction house should at least have some way to sort like by lvl, by stats etc etc. Atm u can find the elite legendary weapon on page 6 and lvl 50 legendary on first page for random unknown reason..

Legendary stats r laughable, i want it cause it looks cool but as most ppl stated in blizzard forum there r rares that have better stats on them and easier to drop.... Why bother with legendary if they didnt make them "legendary"??
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So... Just out of curiousity. Would you WHINE if they created a game that are exactly the same as D2?

E.G: Same style. Same character. Same Gameplay. Same System.

Essentially, I would say, they only added new map.

WILL you buy it then? Or whine that there is no improvement?
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look, are you stupid enough not to get what I mean? And who the hell would want to play D2 at this age. Look at WoW the moment it was launched, a great success, and yet by far they still able to maintain the momentum of being the most online subscription game. But if you toss WoW cds around now, I doubt you will get 10 people respond "omfg its WoW, awesome im gonna play this shit". And exactly, D3 is a WoW inspired game, and it has been running for almost a decade. Things gets old. An awesome Fairlady 10 years back is not as fair now. What I'm trying to imply here is that people wants the 'kick' of playing games that is hyped so tremendously much and get its satisfaction. But too bad D3 is popular because its popular. People has been waiting for a decade for a sequel. In case your some young fag who did not play D2 before, then your comments are worthless. I am a gamer and I do play alot genres so to me (as well as majority), the attention D3 gets does not justify the final masterpiece.
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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ May 20 2012, 11:02 PM)
look, are you stupid enough not to get what I mean? And who the hell would want to play D2 at this age. Look at WoW the moment it was launched, a great success, and yet by far they still able to maintain the momentum of being the most online subscription game. But if you toss WoW cds around now, I doubt you will get 10 people respond "omfg its WoW, awesome im gonna play this shit". And exactly, D3 is a WoW inspired game, and it has been running for almost a decade. Things gets old. An awesome Fairlady 10 years back is not as fair now. What I'm trying to imply here is that people wants the 'kick' of playing games that is hyped so tremendously much and get its satisfaction. But too bad D3 is popular because its popular. People has been waiting for a decade for a sequel. In case your some young fag who did not play D2 before, then your comments are worthless. I am a gamer and I do play alot genres so to me (as well as majority), the attention D3 gets does not justify the final masterpiece.
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First off, for a "old gamer" i presume you are one considering your comment, you are obscenely rude, immature in reply and "stupid enough not to get what I mean" (your words. not mine)

There will always be haters. There will always be people like you whining about how the games are not what it could be. can be. or hyped out to be.

YET! There will also be people complaining if the game comes out as it was. Be it in terms of gameplay, graphic, music, storyline or anything else. Why? Because everyone have differrent expectation. You expect the game to live up to its hype, but which one? The vaunted return of the game? The much awaited 3rd game in the series? The "amazing" dungeon crawler of the decade?

In the end, no one will be satisfied. I take offense in how you presume that the game should be and whine on how it should be yet you diss the fact that no one want to play D2 at this age. Base on this line of thinking, D3 with its game changes should be better!

WoW is a 10 year old game. as you say, things get old. what do you expect ppl to do if you toss the game around now? after 10 years!

Btw, I thank you for calling me Young. Unfortunately, I aint no fag. Although I was around when D1 was launched, I still have a copy of D1, D2 and I was also beta testing WoW. So yes, I understand what you are saying, yes I do play most of their game.

So GTFO and go learn to be a mature gamer.
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QUOTE(reveur @ May 21 2012, 12:08 AM)
First off, for a "old gamer" i presume you are one considering your comment, you are obscenely rude, immature in reply and "stupid enough not to get what I mean" (your words. not mine)

There will always be haters. There will always be people like you whining about how the games are not what it could be. can be. or hyped out to be.

YET! There will also be people complaining if the game comes out as it was. Be it in terms of gameplay, graphic, music, storyline or anything else. Why? Because everyone have differrent expectation. You expect the game to live up to its hype, but which one? The vaunted return of the game? The much awaited 3rd game in the series? The "amazing" dungeon crawler of the decade?

In the end, no one will be satisfied. I take offense in how you presume that the game should be and whine on how it should be yet you diss the fact that no one want to play D2 at this age. Base on this line of thinking, D3 with its game changes should be better!

WoW is a 10 year old game. as you say, things get old. what do you expect ppl to do if you toss the game around now? after 10 years!

Btw, I thank you for calling me Young. Unfortunately, I aint no fag. Although I was around when D1 was launched, I still have a copy of D1, D2 and I was also beta testing WoW. So yes, I understand what you are saying, yes I do play most of their game.

So GTFO and go learn to be a mature gamer.
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*while playing co-op with fwens*
immature gamer: OH FK!!! DIABLO3 SUX THIS!!! SUX THAT!! SUX EVERYWHERE!!! I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY ANOTHER BLIZZARD GAME!!!
*continues to play everyday*

*1 year later, after diablo3 expansion released*
immature gamer: OH DANG!!! THE EXPANSION IS TOTALLY BAD!!! BAD!!! DATED GRAPHICS, BAD GAMEPLAYS, BAD SYSTEM, BAD CLASS!!! THIS JUST SUX!!!
some anon dude: but you said you're not gonna play another blizzard game...
immature gamer: WHO YOU THINK YOU ARE? MY MOM??
*continues to play everyday*

*3 months later after expansion, WoW latest expansion released*
immature gamer: OH FK WOW LATEST EXPANSION SUX THIS!!! SUX THAT!! SUX EVERYWHERE!!! I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY ANOTHER BLIZZARD GAME!!!

and the vicious cycle continues... (same goes for 'L2P' gamming syndrome)
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Was lurking around a forum site can't remember (D3 discussion thread)... Is it true that the main game developers from D1 and D2 was working on D3, but directional changes and development issues made them go and make some game (I've never heard of...) called "Torchlight II" ?? hmm.gif

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Edit : Decided to not get the PC version. Will wait for the 360 version which is yet to be confirmed but in the works, at least it would be an awesome giant screen experience.

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people who complain about D3 is not "Diablo".

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Was lurking around a forum site can't remember (D3 discussion thread)... Is it true that the main game developers from D1 and D2 was working on D3, but directional changes and development issues made them go and make some game (I've never heard of...) called "Torchlight II" ??  hmm.gif 
Edit : Decided to not get the PC version. Will wait for the 360 version which is yet to be confirmed but in the works, at least it would be an awesome giant screen experience.
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Nope, they left to make Hellgate:London.

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Instead of dumb down gameplay...
Nobody realize D3 is actually optimized & (prepared?) for console?
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No it's not.

This is worse than EA.
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LMAO... this really happen?

http://www.gameranx.com/features/id/6847/a...lo-iii-glitches

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ May 21 2012, 01:03 PM)
Was lurking around a forum site can't remember (D3 discussion thread)... Is it true that the main game developers from D1 and D2 was working on D3, but directional changes and development issues made them go and make some game (I've never heard of...) called "Torchlight II" ??  hmm.gif 
Edit : Decided to not get the PC version. Will wait for the 360 version which is yet to be confirmed but in the works, at least it would be an awesome giant screen experience.
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Yes, most of the team who worked on Diablo 1 & 2 is now working on Torchlight 2.
Matt Uelmen who worked on the Diablo 1 & 2 soundtrack will be creating the soundtrack for Torchlight 2.

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i think d3 is great bcz it is more versatile...u are not stuck with skill tree..plus if u played wow b4, u will notice that there will be a dominant skill build for each class...and people tend to use same skill build for each class...kinda boring.........
with d3 u can used diff skill build, no right or wrong..go with skill that suit ur gaming style...plus u need to match ur skill with suitable items..
for me no prob for d3 and great job by blizzard (except for crappy server)
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If it's that bad. Don't buy it, let alone pre-ordering it.
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So I pre-ordered it, expecting it to be good, and found out that it's highly disappointing.

What now?

Do you seriously expect me to know whether it's good or not before the game is even out?

Seriously, use your brain a little.
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QUOTE(radkliler @ May 21 2012, 05:39 PM)
So I pre-ordered it, expecting it to be good, and found out that it's highly disappointing.

What now?

Do you seriously expect me to know whether it's good or not before the game is even out?

Seriously, use your brain a little.
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I did use my brain to be a smart consumer. I'm not offending you but since you don't know if it's gonna be good or bad, then why put in all your money on it? hmm.gif

You see the words that you used? "expecting" "found out".... all these are unsure words.. maybe you should not buy it then blame the game that it's not nice?

I mean, no one said it's very very very nice and it's a must buy. So you on your part should use your head a lil and wait for reviews or comments about the game before purchasing? That's a simple rule of thumb of making a purchase...

And insulting me doesn't prove anything.... hmm.gif

it's macam people pre-book a car before being released and then complain about it kao kao when they got it.. same doh.gif
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QUOTE(radkliler @ May 21 2012, 05:39 PM)
So I pre-ordered it, expecting it to be good, and found out that it's highly disappointing.

What now?

Do you seriously expect me to know whether it's good or not before the game is even out?

Seriously, use your brain a little.
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you're expecting too much.

if you don't know whether the game will be good or not, better wait for review.
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you're expecting too much.

if you don't know whether the game will be good or not, better wait for review.
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although i agree that the whole d3 is kinda short story, and not what d2 used to be, but hey, what the heck, i'm having whole lots of fun with it, challenging difficulties, and looking at people being freaking mad and cursing when lose to certain champions and will do a whole lots of fragging for revenge, now thats fun
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 21 2012, 07:14 PM)
I did use my brain to be a smart consumer. I'm not offending you but since you don't know if it's gonna be good or bad, then why put in all your money on it?  hmm.gif

You see the words that you used? "expecting" "found out".... all these are unsure words.. maybe you should not buy it then blame the game that it's not nice?

I mean, no one said it's very very very nice and it's a must buy. So you on your part should use your head a lil and wait for reviews or comments about the game before purchasing? That's a simple rule of thumb of making a purchase...

And insulting me doesn't prove anything....  hmm.gif

it's macam people pre-book a car before being released and then complain about it kao kao when they got it.. same  doh.gif
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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ May 21 2012, 07:16 PM)
you're expecting too much.

if you don't know whether the game will be good or not, better wait for review.
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I did not say the game was bad. I merely said it was highly disappointing.

I enjoyed the game myself but there are plenty of gaping flaws in the game itself.

Add on to the fact that whole issue of always-online and server side issues and I am bitterly disappointed with the game.

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correct me if i am wrong but doesnt diablo 3 feels like a glorified version of titan quest?
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correct me if i am wrong but doesnt diablo 3 feels like a glorified version of titan quest?
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Titan Quest was way more open and vast than Diablo 3. In D3, they put a lot of zone locks so that you don't wander off from the story. What's more, you don't get any rare loot once you have killed the boss the first time. I find this a hassle, especially when I want to do speed runs.
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 21 2012, 06:14 PM)
I did use my brain to be a smart consumer. I'm not offending you but since you don't know if it's gonna be good or bad, then why put in all your money on it?  hmm.gif

You see the words that you used? "expecting" "found out".... all these are unsure words.. maybe you should not buy it then blame the game that it's not nice?

I mean, no one said it's very very very nice and it's a must buy. So you on your part should use your head a lil and wait for reviews or comments about the game before purchasing? That's a simple rule of thumb of making a purchase...

And insulting me doesn't prove anything....  hmm.gif

it's macam people pre-book a car before being released and then complain about it kao kao when they got it.. same  doh.gif
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ May 21 2012, 06:55 PM)
Titan Quest was way more open and vast than Diablo 3. In D3, they put a lot of zone locks so that you don't wander off from the story. What's more, you don't get any rare loot once you have killed the boss the first time. I find this a hassle, especially when I want to do speed runs.
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u cant really do speed runs because the farkin 'story' will be in the way.

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Its a true story that D3 is a disappointing release, but heck im still having alil fun anyway.. Seems the developer of D2 has been replaced. One tard somewhere above just dont get it

Oh someone mentioned earlier wait for reviews before deciding on joining the bandwagon. My advice is get the guest pass instead. None of the professional reviews made critisized D3, and it has been always been like that. Who wants to mess with Blizzard anyway. Its like your reviewing a fail Proton car vs Lamborghini with flaws. Probably you could look at real user reviews at Metacritics, be prepared to see load shits of kids complaining, and to a certain extent you will have to agree to them.

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its fun waiting for d3,
its fun installing it for 1st time,
its frenzy when login spam d3,
i had a good week blizzard, a week.




p.s i wonder why i had fun in d2 for 5 years long... i just wondering why...
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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ May 21 2012, 06:16 PM)
you're expecting too much.

if you don't know whether the game will be good or not, better wait for review.
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Reviews?

You're saying reviews by game journalists who are nothing compared to the behemoths that is Activision?


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Or, since some genius fella threw in a car analogy there, a proton review by a local automotive journalist?


doh.gif doh.gif


seriously come on guys. I don't get why people are bashing fans who BOUGHT the game.

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correct me if i am wrong but doesnt diablo 3 feels like a glorified version of titan quest?
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it is partly true that D3 is kind of a doppelganger of Titan Quest
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QUOTE(C-Fu @ May 22 2012, 02:00 AM)
Reviews?

You're saying reviews by game journalists who are nothing compared to the behemoths that is Activision?
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Or, since some genius fella threw in a car analogy there, a proton review by a local automotive journalist?
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seriously come on guys. I don't get why people are bashing fans who BOUGHT the game.
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the are 2 type of review, one from the "official" reviewer ie Gamespot, IGN. the other one is user's review.

i usually read user's review when I wanna purchase a game because sometimes it's more accurate than the official one. smile.gif

besides, what's wrong with reading a review? at least you know if the game is in favor with you or not. so you won't just blindly buy it.

if you're really like the game and wanna buy it straightaway, go ahead. but expecting too much lead to major disappointment.

though, I rather avoid the review for this game, almost all reviews are clouded with rage and disappointment from buyers,

and the official one wanna save Blizzard's a$$ reputation. whistling.gif


and which fan you're talking about? the one who bought the game and enjoying it, or one who bought the game and whine about it?


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Just finished DH, Barbarian and WD in Normal mode. 2 more classes then i will move on to nightmare.

Enjoying the game in a very slow pace way without trying to rush for Inferno. =p

I think i didn't get disappointed of the game cause i followed the game info from long time and expected what i am getting into. lol
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QUOTE(diasrandford @ May 22 2012, 06:34 AM)
Just finished DH, Barbarian and WD in Normal mode. 2 more classes then i will move on to nightmare.

Enjoying the game in a very slow pace way without trying to rush for Inferno. =p

I think i didn't get disappointed of the game cause i followed the game info from long time and expected what i am getting into. lol
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i dont follow much, i dont even know about the new skill system and stats allocation tongue.gif
but i do know about the always online crap. dry.gif
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i dont follow much, i dont even know about the new skill system and stats allocation tongue.gif
but i do know about the always online crap. dry.gif
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Yeah. It is sad it has to be online only. But i can't blame them much for this decision.
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and which fan you're talking about? the one who bought the game and enjoying it, or one who bought the game and whine about it?
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the ones who BOUGHT the game, who support the developers, who got spat back in return. people who whine or enjoy are in the same shit problems, so if you don't wanna whine, great! but why diss the fans?
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the ones who BOUGHT the game, who support the developers, who got spat back in return. people who whine or enjoy are in the same shit problems, so if you don't wanna whine, great! but why diss the fans?
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who's dissing who actually? wink.gif

all I see is those who don't like the game state their reason, while those who like the game counter their points.

and the cycle continues.
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from my point of view, its new game system which kinda good..
more of a "challange"?? u cant spam pots like what you used to do at D2..well the annoying part is when u almost kill a boss and u die..u start all over again..tats about it but still acceptable
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QUOTE(kevink82 @ May 20 2012, 07:08 PM)
Think the game core is incomplete, portal cannot take the char to different act must be done from the game menu instead, why?

Some rare mobs simply cannot be tank or kite let alone solo it.... since rare mob states r randomly generated in hell difficulty i find some mob just like that and we just leave game and make a new one and prey.....

Auction house should at least have some way to sort like by lvl, by stats etc etc. Atm u can find the elite legendary weapon on page 6 and lvl 50 legendary on first page for random unknown reason..

Legendary stats r laughable, i want it cause it looks cool but as most ppl stated in blizzard forum there r rares that have better stats on them and easier to drop.... Why bother with legendary if they didnt make them "legendary"??
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1. You're right, maybe we do need an act transfer thing.

2. It trully depends on gear if you're talking bout Hell, i can solo headons with most of the elite combinations. as the mode has said : HELL. If your gear is not HELLMARISH enough, please gtfo and go back to farming or make a team and leech.

3. The sorting you want is ALL IN. YOU JUST HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO USE AUCTION HOUSE PROPERLY, Please read GAME GUIDE.

4. Do you know how much it cost to get a better than legendary rare? Please enchance your ingame experience more. Cause "these rare" can be 1 in 500-10000 unit.
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4. Do you know how much it cost to get a better than legendary rare? Please enchance your ingame experience more. Cause "these rare" can be 1 in 500-10000 unit.
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Yes it cost a lot but that is not wut im saying...... im saying how can a rare be better than legendary??? English lesson anyone? They might as well switch the name since the stats of the rare can go higher than legendary thats wut i am sayin.

So no matter how much u farm or get a perfect stats legendary u know that there will be rare items that will pwn it........ its not the cost of course better stats demand a higher price. U should read my question. I presume u meant enhance? Not sure wut enchance is like somethin magical ? Not too sure........
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QUOTE(kevink82 @ May 22 2012, 02:03 PM)
Yes it cost a lot but that is not wut im saying...... im saying how can a rare be better than legendary??? English lesson anyone? They might as well switch the name since the stats of the rare can go higher than legendary thats wut i am sayin.

So no matter how much u farm or get a perfect stats legendary u know that there will be rare items that will pwn it........ its not the cost of course better stats demand a higher price. U should read my question. I presume u meant enhance? Not sure wut enchance is like somethin magical ? Not too sure........
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U do know that it is better in BASE STAT ONLY right the example you quoting?

Legendary have special effect, much more opt compare to rare.

So basically if u talking bout MAIN BASE STAT (int,str,dex,vit), and thats your ONLY FOCUS, i guess yeah why not rare better?

and do u know like SET ITEM, if u have 2 PART, u get STAT LIKE +130 DEXTERITY? DID U COUNT THAT?

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my philosophy is simple: like the game, play it, don't like it, play other games.

so far i enjoy the game, at least i don't feel like playing D2 or D2:LOD.

cheers!

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come on, stop fighting over whether its good or bad. Good or bad, fanboys will follow. Just let people rest in piece and enjoy the game.

D3 lovers, play D3 and enjoy a sequel made by different author.

D2 lovers, play torchlight 2 which is a sequel made by original author of D2.

People should just accept different opinions, instead of insisting your thoughts on others.
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QUOTE(StorMx @ May 22 2012, 03:23 PM)
U do know that it is better in BASE STAT ONLY right the example you quoting?

Legendary have special effect, much more opt compare to rare.

So basically if u talking bout MAIN BASE STAT (int,str,dex,vit), and thats your ONLY FOCUS, i guess yeah why not rare better?

and do u know like SET ITEM, if u have 2 PART, u get STAT LIKE +130 DEXTERITY? DID U COUNT THAT?

smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif
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Special effect like? Currently all the ones i saw on blizzard page on legendary can be have on rare as well, do plz show me some of the special effect cause im too blind to c.... yes set items give u full set bonus those exist in D2 as well but im not talking about set items im talking about legendary as in the golden items.....

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/chest-armor/#type=legendary
for example anything u c in there doesnt exist on rare items?

Now that u mentioned it the auction house list legendary and set together but on their home page its seperated.
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QUOTE(kevink82 @ May 23 2012, 10:14 AM)
Special effect like? Currently all the ones i saw on blizzard page on legendary can be have on rare as well, do plz show me some of the special effect cause im too blind to c.... yes set items give u full set bonus those exist in D2 as well but im not talking about set items im talking about legendary as in the golden items.....

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/chest-armor/#type=legendary
for example anything u c in there doesnt exist on rare items? 

Now that u mentioned it the auction house list legendary and set together but on their home page its seperated.
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Give u a simple example.

Att Speed % on exist on Legendary shield can u can get up to 12-13% but rare shield could never have this sh1t

If you're level super high with 1000++ main stat, you know how important is the 13% att speed, boast like hell brows.gif brows.gif


In case you need SOS so much:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/lidless-wall


Super set opt if get 2 VS some rare:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksm...allowed-barrier

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The example u listed clearly stated 12-13% while u stated 15-20% and all the legendary only it has it? I must be failing so hard then.... O well ; ;

O wait u ninja edited ur post lmao.....

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The example u listed clearly stated 12-13% while u stated 15-20% and all the legendary only it has it? I must be failing so hard then.... O well ; ;

O wait u ninja edited ur post lmao.....
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I edit after i actually read from the link.
and it was before you reply?

So you're try to use "ninja" tease on me when I've proven 4 out 4 of your points are invalid? doh.gif

My bad then cool2.gif tongue.gif
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diablo 2 released in 2000
diablo 3 released in 2012

what u expect ler, developer sure change la, how many of u comment here work for the same company in 12 years period?! even so, that time u should be playing a project manager role, no more developing.

so times have changed.
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QUOTE(booby @ May 23 2012, 02:11 PM)
diablo 2 released in 2000
diablo 3 released in 2012

what u expect ler, developer sure change la, how many of u comment here work for the same company in 12 years period?! even so, that time u should be playing a project manager role, no more developing.

so times have changed.
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Not quite. They were actually developing D3 as early as 2002, but Blizzard North had a fallout with the parent company, and most of the D3 dev team who actually developed the first two Diablo games left, and the game got shelved.

http://kotaku.com/5761172/this-is-what-dia...e-ago/gallery/1
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ May 23 2012, 03:08 PM)
Not quite. They were actually developing D3 as early as 2002, but Blizzard North had a fallout with the parent company, and most of the D3 dev team who actually developed the first two Diablo games left, and the game got shelved.

http://kotaku.com/5761172/this-is-what-dia...e-ago/gallery/1
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bill roper from blizzard north developed hellgate but that game failed terribly.
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bill roper from blizzard north developed hellgate but that game failed terribly.
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the only thing i like about the game is the armor drool.gif
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Now You See, Now You Don't - Diablo 3 PS3 Shows Up And Then Gets Removed

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/console-v...getting-pulled/

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There has long been talks about Blizzard possibly bringing Diablo 3 onto gaming consoles. Apart from a couple of job listings and some hints dropped by Blizzard staff, that has been no evidence so far that indicates Diablo 3 for consoles is near completion and is expected to go on sale soon, at least until now. Thanks to the folks at Polish website, ps3site.pl, it seems that they have come across a Polish retailer who supposedly uploaded a sales page in which the PlayStation 3 of Diablo 3 was revealed.

The page (which has since been taken down) “revealed” the release date for the game to be for the 1st of July 2013. When ps3site.pl attempted to contact the retailers for confirmation and more information about the page, they were instead informed that there would be more information on the PlayStation 3 release of the game that would be announced soon. Assuming the retailers are to be believed, could we expect an announcement by Blizzard in the near future? Unfortunately until that announcement has been made, we suggest taking this with a grain of salt for now.


Once again I read in a forum site I can't remember as I was lurking around that one of the major reasons Blizzard keeps saying "we are looking at the possibility of a console version" is the whole always-on internet connection thingy. How will console gamers react to such an implementation? I wouldn't mind one bit as my 360/PS3 "only" can run the game and not some background programs, furthermore 360/PS3 aren't portable consoles... compared to folks who want to play D3 on their laptops and move around.


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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ May 23 2012, 03:08 PM)
Not quite. They were actually developing D3 as early as 2002, but Blizzard North had a fallout with the parent company, and most of the D3 dev team who actually developed the first two Diablo games left, and the game got shelved.

http://kotaku.com/5761172/this-is-what-dia...e-ago/gallery/1
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tats wat im trying to say la dude, developers changed. can look at the history here.

http://www.diablowiki.net/Diablo_3_History

departure of blizzard north in 2005. Developers changed, game sure change also la. nobody likes to read other codes. programmers will get it.
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Diablo 3 Analysis

Graphic : 7.5 ( best in own genre, but not the whole industry )
Sound : 6.5 - acceptable. But not phenomenal
Control : 9 - Successfully blend player with his/her in game char
Story : 8 - Best in own genre. but ARPG always dont have a interesting story. Eg, Mass Effect 3
Skill Design : 9.5 - Vast variety of choices
Char Customization : 3 - Everybody the Same hero at lv60, with different item set.

Overall Good :
Very few game company dare to challenge the holiness of Diablo Series ARPG. For 12 years waiting new Diablo, the Only good is - New Diablo 3 release with better Graphic & Sound.

Diablo 3 is not a Diablo 2 clone. It WORSE. Why?

Level 1 - Level 60, all the FUN with Character Customization G O N E. You get regular stats gain, and YOU WILL LEARN ALL THE SKILL.
believe me, this sound damm fun for NOOB player. Why?
Many D2 player punished by wrong picking skill/stat build for their char, and this sound unsexy for NOOB player,
but, thats is why hardcore player seek for challenge.....

Real Money Auction House
Where the shit become farkin bull shit
There are hell lot of player screaming happily with this RMAH thing,
1) a chance they can make pocket money while playing games.....
2) a wide open door for P2W player
Did you guys notice that, when RMAH launching date coming, the in game gold AH missing many good item. Why???
FARK, u need to pay for the Real Godlike Item with Ringgit.

I buy game with Ringgit.
I never buy in-game virtual item with RINGGIT ( What for....., there is one day you will stop playing this game, and go another game.... )
I dont spend my whole day in game. How to farm like those farmer...

even with GTX690, you will still LAG. Thanks to the Permanent Online thing
well, multiplayer is fun. but why force us to Perma online?
well, prevent cheat/hack the game? haizzz.....

No PVP
When the hell world said Diablo 3 got PVP. even Diablo 3 Beta got PVP.
the FACTS is, NO PVP NOW. Understand? How long Blizzard delayed this game?
then you roughly know when you can start playing PVP......


there is good in Diablo 3.
But for RM180 with 1 PC Game, no point we lower the standard....


 

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