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hawk123
post Jun 11 2012, 02:51 PM

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May I know if the Times Square pool opens for public?
And what is the ticket's price & schedule?
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post Jun 11 2012, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(senyii @ Jun 11 2012, 05:44 PM)
no it is not open for public...one of the forumer is kind enuff to let us access in with her presence of course..
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I see.
Can I join u guys next time if I'm free?
TQ.

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post Jun 17 2012, 05:37 AM

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Wow...I would like to join u guys for a swim too.

Fins, can I join you guys?
TQ

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post Jun 17 2012, 10:19 AM

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What time you guys go today? 5:30 pm?
If yes, most likely I can join you guys.
Where to meet?
I will pm my no. to time traveller & senyii.
TQ
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post Jun 21 2012, 11:03 PM

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Senyii & Timetravelller, tq for bringing me in the TS pool.
Swim with you guys next time.
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post Jul 30 2012, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(FinsnGills @ Jul 29 2012, 09:38 PM)
Anyone keen to swim at Times Square in the mornings smile.gif
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A swim in the morning is really a good start of the days.
I used to do that on every Saturday morning in the past few years.
But, TS is kinda far and the water is not very clean.


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post Jul 30 2012, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(FinsnGills @ Jul 30 2012, 04:09 PM)
Lately the water is cleaner, especially in the mornings as that is when they do cleaning and clearing of pool debris smile.gif
Anytime between 7am-9:30am is fine if you are keen to swim smile.gif


Added on July 30, 2012, 4:12 pm

Anytime between 7am-9:30am is fine if you are keen to swim smile.gif
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TQ.
B4 this, I met Timetraveller & Senyii for a swim at evening time at TS.
TS's pool shld be cleaner in the morning.
I think it's dirty because the residents and hotel customers don't wear proper swimming attires.
This is really disgusting.

Of course, I'm keen to swim.
But, I still prefer Bkt Jalil over TS....hahahah....
Anyway, I can join you guys for a swim once in a while.

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post Jul 30 2012, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(FinsnGills @ Jul 30 2012, 05:24 PM)
Sure smile.gif Do drop by soon !
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Ok.
But, how can I contact you?
And is it just for weekdays?

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post Jul 30 2012, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(FinsnGills @ Jul 30 2012, 05:35 PM)
Most of the days including week ends are fine  smile.gif
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Good, prefer weekend.
Pls pm me your no, else I'll be blocked b4 the access door. Hahaha...
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post Jul 30 2012, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(FinsnGills @ Jul 30 2012, 06:00 PM)
LOL can't let that happen. PM me or Senyii or Timetraveller when you plan to drop by smile.gif
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I seldom check this forum.
And I always go swimming randomly and when I'm free.
There is no particular time for it.
So, I'm afraid that PM doesn't work it out.


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post Aug 3 2012, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jul 30 2012, 11:26 PM)
haha same here too

been swimming 2.4 ~ 2.5k on previous 2 days.. not straining on the body but not getting fast nevertheless...
how to improve my speed? talking about improvement via technique, anyone have a underwater camera? taping it is good for your improvement
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Yes, underwater camera is a good way to improve the stroke.
I hv one, but never use it to tape it myself.
I'm just too lazy to do this.
What I hv been doing is watch youtube and practice the stroke.
Use my skin and body to feel the flow of the water.
And if I can swim farther with less energy, then I will assume it's the correct stroke.

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post Aug 6 2012, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Aug 6 2012, 12:22 PM)
Unless you have really good sense of self body movement concious, it is going to be difficult.
I know I always have body coordination problem.

I also know after 400m my stroke would change and I would have to exert slightly more energy to maintain my pace.
Easy or not, I will do on 2:20~2:30 / 100m for any distance I am doing.. Hvn't tried beyond 2000m tho..
All great swimmers hv a good sense of the flow of water over their bodies in the water.
A lot of beginners hv a misunderstand of swimming.
They always think that swimming is abt using almost all their energy to crawl forward by imitating those swimmers after seeing them in the competitions. Instead of performing all the steps of the stroke slowly, they do it too fast.
Worse thing is they might injure themselves coz of wrong stroke.
So, it's better to perform all the steps of a stroke correctly and slowly to get a sense of the water.
Going slowly will allow the swimmers to feel the water and think abt his strokes.
Aft mastering the right stroke, one can go for sprint.

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post Aug 6 2012, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Aug 6 2012, 07:10 PM)
I also heard contradict comments on this, I am not sure on this.
To swim fast, swim faster... Technique will need to accompany with endurance..

Anyway I am varying different swim style each session to see how it feels to my body, I do short breakdown like 2x100 or 3x100 mostly because I want recovery so that I can concentrate on my water entry and recovery more..
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Oc, endurance is important in swimming, especially in competition.
But, one must get the right stroke on top of all this.
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post Sep 6 2012, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Aug 8 2012, 10:56 AM)
Izzit good idea to have consistent left and right hand stroke?
I realise that my left arm have better pull although my dominant hand is actually right.
I think it's related to my dominant right side breathing that cause my right hand to pull differently..

Now trying to swim bilateral all the way during training, swim one side during race.
After water entry you suppose to drop your elbow, i always fail to do that, causing a less powerful pull
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It's not necessary to hv consistent left and right breathing when you're in competition.
The reason why the coaches encourage swimmers to breath left and right side is to make the swimmers hv a better sense of its body position and hand strokes in the water.
All swimmers will get used to breath one side better than the other, but good swimmers hv at least not so much different in either side breathing skill.

And it's very wrong to drop your elbow after your hands enter the water.
To swim more efficiently, swimmers like to maintain the high elbow positions.
A lot of ppl mistaken that high elbow position is maintained during the recovery.
But, it's not very true.
High elbow position should be kept in the water too.
If you go to Youtube watch those olympic swimmers' video, you're going to notice that their hands are almost perpendicular to their bodies.
This explains why the swimmers hv big latissimus muscle.
Freestyle and butterfly use a lot of energy from this muscle.
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post Sep 10 2012, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(timetravelller @ Sep 10 2012, 01:13 PM)
ya, 1 eye in the water, 1 eye outside the water while breath at side..just rotate, not lift ur head. u lift ur head, ur butt go down, not good.. not in bodyline..


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when swim front craw, the elbow maintain as high as possible close to the water while pull & push?
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When the hands enter into the water, the shoulder should reach out and extend it for a distance.
It should stays almost parallel to the surface of the water to some distance.
During the drag and pull, the hands and elbows should notl be straight all the way.
A more correct stroke would be bending your elbows in the phase.
Let the elbows always higher than your forearms and make your forearms almost perpendicular to the surface of the water.
Look at this youtube link.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgnzScthg-4h


Added on September 10, 2012, 9:29 pm
QUOTE(timetravelller @ Sep 10 2012, 01:13 PM)
ya, 1 eye in the water, 1 eye outside the water while breath at side..just rotate, not lift ur head. u lift ur head, ur butt go down, not good.. not in bodyline..


Added on September 10, 2012, 1:15 pm

when swim front craw, the elbow maintain as high as possible close to the water while pull & push?
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Btw, I have forgotten to tell you that there was a mistake about the fingers in the water we have discussed the other day.
A correct style of the palms to swim more efficiently is to spread the fingers a little bit (abt 20 to 40% of the diameter size of the fingers).


Read this article for more info.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/art...ar-quicker.html



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post Sep 19 2016, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Sep 18 2016, 10:27 PM)
Thanks for your encouragement. In the adult class I am in, I actually saw a lot of older woman learning swimming. I am surprise I am the only guy around that age at there. Maybe most guys are born to swim by nature  so they don't need class but definitely not me.

yes that is what I am trying to say. I cannot confirm it 100% yet cause just experience it once.
When I try to go under the water surface, I took a breath, then I bend down my knees and body. My foot is actually can stand on the bottom of the pool if I was to stand upright. But as soon as my upper body is under water surface, I feel like I am being push upward. My foot left away from the bottom of the pool and I was like at a dead body posture on the surface. But face facing down, so cannot rely this as life saving technique lol.
I have to re-try it again next time.

I wish to go to do own swimming after the class or at other day to make my learning faster but as I do not yet completely know how to keep myself above water I think I shall not do that until I can be assure I am fine to swim alone.

I actually have a question on the breaststroke kick. If my reasoning is correct, the kick tries to mimic the frog way of kicking water, so the bottom of the feet must remains 90deg angle in order to have the most kicking force. But why the legs must spread outward? Why I can't I just kick in perfectly upright direction (imagine we are standing upright, then squat down with both legs close no gap, then stand up again, repeat this posture in the water instead). Isn't this upright kicking gives more direct kicking force to move forward?
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Our lung is like a balloon.
Just by playing with breathes, one can float on the surface of water as long as he/she likes, if the person stays in a relax mode.

In the breast stroke, the legs kick outward because inward kickings tend to move your body upward, but your weight will drag you down. These up & down movements make the body into an unstable posture. This will create drag for beginners. In swimming, we are always talking abt to get & retain a streamline body position.

Up/Down kick is more like a dolphin kick, which is used in butterfly stroke.

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post Mar 1 2017, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(tangenttheta @ Feb 27 2017, 01:47 PM)
Hi, i am curently doing a survey regarding swimming pool in klang valley area.
i have searched and only found these public swiiming pool areound.

Bandar Tun Razak Swimming Complex/ Kompleks Renang KL
National Aquatic Centre
PJ Palms Sports Centre
Chin Woo Stadium
Kompleks Sukan Bangsar
Aquatic Swimming Pool, Shah Alam
Panasonic National Sport Centre
Kelana Jaya Municipal Pool
3K Sports Complex, Subang Jaya
Kompleks Renang Sri Siantan
Putrajaya Swimming Complex
Pusat Kejiranan Presint 11
Marina Putrajaya
MSN Setiwangsa
Kompleks Sukan Pandamaran
Palm Garden Infinity Pool
Putrajaya kolam renang presint 6

Anyone else have any places to add on?
it would be beneficial to our new swimmers around to search for swimming pool near to their houses.
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Komplek Sukan Paralympic, Kampung Pandan.

Where is Putrajaya Swimming Complex?

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