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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V23 - Dead or Alive!

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post May 25 2012, 12:06 PM

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hi all sifu, i been flwing this thread from beginning but still very confusing on certain thing...
dun scold me noob pls, tats y i silent all time... sweat.gif

my blm 2010 1.3mt almos 15,000 km now

question:
1# i heard install item (reverse sensor, foglamp, etc) that need wiring will void my warranty, pls advice...

2# aircon compressor kick in, is it only way is to decrease the kick in by stepping more oil?

3# front 2 ducaro, back 2 stock silverstone>>> ok ma?

4# after driving highway, switch off engine and retart after tat sometime difficult to start>>>spark plug problem?

thx in advance notworthy.gif
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post May 25 2012, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ May 25 2012, 12:14 PM)
1) if PNP no problem, if cut and tap wires. yes it will void..

2) Wait V12K and dares reply u..

3) better get all same type if not it will produce different grip and its dangerous as well..

4) battery weak? wat kind of sound whn u start?
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1) if install reverse/front sensor and foglamp = PNP or cut&tap? mine blm baseline

2) hope to hear from u soon notworthy.gif

3) ok noted, need go bac SC or normal workshop will do?

4) normal start engine sound... normally turn key will on straight but after highway turn key awhile also cant on, need few attempts... icon_question.gif

5) y viva (confirm not 1.0cc) can kill me on highway? driving 110... modified viva? tis question can ignore if dunwan reply tongue.gif
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post May 25 2012, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 25 2012, 12:30 PM)
Then irrelevant to throttle gua.

The compressor will always cause a nett power loss when it kicks in, doesn't matter you press the throttle or not. I heard ppl say our car will cut of the compressor during hard acceleration, dunno true anot  hmm.gif
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i tried when kick in, hit hard on acceleration. it worked becos no feell kick in but i think fc increase?

no other way? hmm.gif

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post May 25 2012, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ May 25 2012, 12:40 PM)
oic..Good Luck on ur DIY~!  icon_rolleyes.gif
1) most aftermarket ar cut & tap~!
3) as u like, go SC or normal also same..juz better get a nice, comfort and better grip tyre..
4) hmm... thn not sure maybe V12K, dares or david can provide u a clearer answer..
5) viva top speed manual 170-175, auto 165.. 110 not a big deal to viva...
yeah, but he didnt show us pic after done DIY~!
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1) ok noted, then wait after warranty only kacau my car brows.gif

3) ducaro ok ma? they hard sell duraplus at starting and say ducaro old stock not good

4) i think later 15k service ask SC to check, if sifus hv ans also can let me know so i will not potong by SC to change tis and tat

5) try to chase him but feel heavy duno y... when i go 120, gf beside bising so bo bian need slow down. she ask me: "now u wan rush home, not rush to hell!" sweat.gif


Added on May 25, 2012, 12:50 pm
QUOTE(dares @ May 25 2012, 12:23 PM)

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dares, i also heard my bro also shake head on my stock silverstone sad.gif

wat mean can crank? can elaborate at human language? icon_question.gif

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post May 25 2012, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ May 25 2012, 12:46 PM)
For No. 4, I get that problem occasionally, when I try and start a warm / hot engine. I doubt it's the spark plugs, maybe the fuel pump?

For No. 2, when the air cond compressor kicks in while driving slowly in first or second gear on the manual tranny, it gives one big jerk to the car. It's serious damn annoying, especially if it kicks in while you're accelerating from a traffic light. The effect is not so much noticeable in higher gears and at higher speeds. Solution, change to a not-so-powderful compressor? unsure.gif
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agreed on both.

1st and 2nd gear kicks in very very jerk my passenger tot i duno change gear and mati engine sweat.gif
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post May 25 2012, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ May 25 2012, 12:59 PM)
will in the middle of the night thn u will c a leng gal weaving at u to ask "can i tumpang ur car?" lolz

btw yeah, drive safe and take cautions everytime~! Maintain ur car well to avoid and break down~!
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lol~ then i will accelerate faster lar sweat.gif

thx for the advice, now i m a slow driver...
uncle style, learned from earlier comment in here thumbup.gif
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post May 25 2012, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ May 25 2012, 12:52 PM)
3) try yokohama or michelin if not mistaken... dares, V12k and david answer this please... (coz i still using stock tyre)

5) heavy? urs is auto or manual? if auto will be a bit heavy... got gf beside still wana chase ppl... drive safe while u  had passengers~!
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tyre will change all ducaro 1st, budget not enough tongue.gif

manual, aircon will cause heavier rite?
gf always dark face when i go highway biggrin.gif


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post May 25 2012, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 25 2012, 12:57 PM)
So the truth is, the AK GB has shorter ratio then?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
No idea about ducaro, have to ask tiremen in this thread.

Of course Viva can do 120. Whether can do it safely is another question. Maybe he don't have GF beside him  tongue.gif

Crank means the engine try to start, instead of a "tik, tik" sound, which means battery kong.
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tat viva drive alone open window, assume he off aircon biggrin.gif

no "tik tik", just normalstart engine sound but just cant turn on the engine (its afternoon with hot sun, too hot maybe? my termometer still 3 bar)


Added on May 25, 2012, 1:15 pm
QUOTE(iXora.ix @ May 25 2012, 01:11 PM)
just use aircond lah bro.. haha.. is it a myth if we wind down the window while driving will save your fuel? myth rite. hahaha
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not sure if it is myth...

i used to off aircon before 10k service then my bro scolded and say dun drive like a lala kia... doh.gif

i feel no aircon can pickup faster, m i rite?

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post May 25 2012, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(helldagger @ May 25 2012, 01:20 PM)
Got TCSS tomorrow ah.. feel like coming but not sure if able to or not. Btw i love this saga. Really nice to drive. But i think i hv been travelling to much. Les than 2 week, 2000km d. Havent sent for 1st service( its 1000km right?) anything specific that i should know?
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time to service bro... 1k service rclxms.gif
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post May 25 2012, 01:27 PM

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thx all sifus advice, will do the necessary...
if any issue, will ask again but for sure i still flw tis thread silently ph34r.gif
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post May 25 2012, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 25 2012, 01:34 PM)
the compressor draws engine power, so you suffer from power loss. furthermore our compressor is freakin heavy. Someone here mentioned before our powderful compressor takes 33Nm of torque away when it kicks in.

As for the engine cannot start problem, no idea tongue.gif
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i think tis figure can consider alot impact to our car rite?

i will open engine cover let mech check on it after tis... i dunwan my wifu so fast die cry.gif
tats y now no more heavy footer jor, need to self control when gv car cucuk at middle lane... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 25 2012, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(megadisc @ May 25 2012, 01:57 PM)
anyone planing to add remote engine start to the car ?
sounds like a BONUS ... icon_rolleyes.gif
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thx for the info rclxms.gif

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post May 25 2012, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 25 2012, 02:58 PM)
For the hard start during warm eagine can cause by many fact:

1) Loose nozzle head.injector working over time at high spraying volume tend to weaken,unable to retract in time. Excess fuel wet spark plug result in hard crank

2) Our S4P uses independent coil for each sparkplug. Over time driing tend to heat up the coil, spark become weak as a result gotta hard crank

3) New/expired sparkplug gap too near/far apart, result in uneven sparks, especially during hot engine, gap effect become significant. If new sparkplug can loosen the iridium head, whereas for old sparkplug need to be tighten. My uncle's A31 cefiro uses his stock sparkplug for 12 years until the copper head can't be tighten anymore only he change.

4) Last but not least, hot air is bad for ignition. Noon time/after long distance, substatial hot air trapped in engine bay causes uneasy to burn the A/F mixture.

Hope this help. Justify before change anything suggested by the mech. Don't let those mech simply cut throat.
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i assume after 2hrs on highway even not hot day also maybe will cause tis?
actualy morning and night time no such problem even very cold.
haiz my car under sun and moon 24hrs, reli sakit hati as cos my gf car using condo parking lot(got roof) cry.gif



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post May 25 2012, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(foo0110 @ May 25 2012, 04:53 PM)
Done the maths, just feels very weird  blink.gif
Because it auto stop pumping, and I'm scare of overflow it again...so not planning to keep pushing more petrol in.
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1 bar = RM10 (roughly)

normally i pump until 5th bar, no need to pump full tank la.
ur car eat too full cant move later laugh.gif
unless u reli need travel tat long distance on one tank petrol without any petrol station on the whole trip.
i think tis impossible ba, no petrol station? shakehead.gif
just imagine i stay at hutan, sry~
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post May 25 2012, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 25 2012, 05:10 PM)
Dun refuel so late, nanti fuel pump rosak.
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i tot u say dun refuel too late at night doh.gif laugh.gif

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post Jun 4 2012, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 4 2012, 11:33 AM)
yesterday was 1.3 CVT vs 2.5 CVT  brows.gif
i was on my way home using Lekas highway, suddenly one Nissan Teana 250 cucuk me
i let him go in front me, then my turn to cucuk him... 1.3 cvt pick up quite impressive, can chase that Nissan quite easily
both speeding at 170 to 180 kmph  laugh.gif
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bro, dun do tis to ur car...
difference of 1.2 sweat.gif
refer ur proton booklet for ur car max speed...
recently i just read through my booklet and it said 160kmh is max for 1.3 car....
i quite shocked becos i reached 160 without knowing it, i m scared now. sweat.gif


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post Jun 4 2012, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 4 2012, 12:44 PM)
Slowly, slowly.... tongue.gif
Not neccesarily slow, I enter the turn with the feet on the throttle, lift-off or lightly braking right before the apex, then re-accelerating halfway through the apex. I gather I lose a lot of speed for that brief moment I let off the gas.
notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
laugh.gif  laugh.gif Maybe dint notice him at all  tongue.gif
1.3 FLX can do at least 180km/h, as V12k has proven.
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i know the speed stil can increase...
but only worry the engine life span...
i driving from gombak tol until bentong tunnel at 120-160... cornering shift 3rd gear, at the middle part start accelerate and shift gear. overtook alot bigger auto car biggrin.gif
but tat was few months ago after i wasted almost RM30 petrol just for tis short moment excitement.
now already changed, "slow down" for life and petrol money tongue.gif
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post Jun 4 2012, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 4 2012, 12:54 PM)
Haiz it seems many FLX has this problem, including mine. Last time, I can push the rubber in and close the door quickly and the rubber will stay inside.

Now that I have installed the OEM rubber at the door frame, I can't do that anymore. Have to use fingernails to push the rubber back inside.
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my blm same prob...
back door rubber shakehead.gif
sometime back door hard to open and close as the rubber prob sweat.gif
now saving money, just in case need to spend on fixing door rubber and back bumper(scratched by other car)
going 15k service tis friday moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif
erm, tis service only EO, oil filter and gasket? or more thing to go?




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post Jun 4 2012, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 4 2012, 01:27 PM)
Dyno run prove nothing about top speed, because some portion of engine power is use to overcome wind drag on road during high speed.


Added on June 4, 2012, 1:29 pm

Engine life span will not harm so much by this driving, only ur own life span is greatly influenced. ohmy.gif
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haha, agreed on bold part.
as i quite hot temper and impatient while driving, my solution is listen to slow and light jazz cool.gif
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post Jun 4 2012, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 4 2012, 01:36 PM)
I recommend that you visit COSE if you can, me plus another member in this thread has gotten the problem fixed there  smile.gif


Added on June 4, 2012, 1:37 pm

Last time I did ask them for fix. They applied some sort of liquid on the rubber (to soften it, I suppose) and that's it.

Two weeks later, guess what, rubber is sticking out the door again  doh.gif  doh.gif
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tat means no solution at all for the rubber? changing new rubber outside any idea cost how much?


Added on June 4, 2012, 1:47 pm
QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 4 2012, 01:43 PM)
1.3 CVT
yours is auto transmission, mine is CVT, fuel saver and better efficiency  tongue.gif
soften it? then it will expand and become bigger, they should change to new rubber instead making it expand wider  doh.gif
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i knew u CVT cry.gif

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