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PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V23 - Dead or Alive!
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TSr3apers
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 May 25 2012, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(GP mad man @ May 25 2012, 12:48 PM) 1) ok noted, then wait after warranty only kacau my car  3) ducaro ok ma? they hard sell duraplus at starting and say ducaro old stock not good 4) i think later 15k service ask SC to check, if sifus hv ans also can let me know so i will not potong by SC to change tis and tat 5) try to chase him but feel heavy duno y... when i go 120, gf beside bising so bo bian need slow down. she ask me: "now u wan rush home, not rush to hell!" 
Added on May 25, 2012, 12:50 pmdares, i also heard my bro also shake head on my stock silverstone  wat mean can crank? can elaborate at human language?  3) try yokohama or michelin if not mistaken... dares, V12k and david answer this please... (coz i still using stock tyre) 5) heavy? urs is auto or manual? if auto will be a bit heavy... got gf beside still wana chase ppl... drive safe while u had passengers~! This post has been edited by r3apers: May 25 2012, 12:53 PM |
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poweredbydiscuz
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May 25 2012, 12:56 PM
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Drive safe even when there's no passengers and the road is empty
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dares
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May 25 2012, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(lhwj @ May 25 2012, 12:39 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « My reasons for desiring the Getrag tranny are due to the different final drive, and while I haven't driven a manual FLX before (only the CVT one), I'm guessing the shifting feel is much improved. People who have driven my car said they like it very much except for the shifting feel, and I agree. If you're going to be rowing through the gears many times while driving it's worth getting a gearbox with a good feel. Anyway, about the ratio, see this:  MFA30A is the original Aichi Kikai tranny on BLM and FL, I'm guessing the Getrag one is 5MTT200A. Yes, at first glance the Getrag ratios seem shorter than the AK tranny, but don't forget to multiply by the final drive (AK 4.705, Getrag 3.8). If you do this, the ratios look like this: Gear No./AK ratio/Getrag ratio 1 / 15.682 / 13.471 2 / 9.194 / 7.771 3 / 6.046 / 5.373 4 / 4.357 / 4.005 5 / 3.552 / 3.336 So the truth is, the AK GB has shorter ratio then?  QUOTE(GP mad man @ May 25 2012, 12:48 PM) 1) ok noted, then wait after warranty only kacau my car 3) ducaro ok ma? they hard sell duraplus at starting and say ducaro old stock not good 4) i think later 15k service ask SC to check, if sifus hv ans also can let me know so i will not potong by SC to change tis and tat 5) try to chase him but feel heavy duno y... when i go 120, gf beside bising so bo bian need slow down. she ask me: "now u wan rush home, not rush to hell!"
Added on May 25, 2012, 12:50 pmdares, i also heard my bro also shake head on my stock silverstone wat mean can crank? can elaborate at human language? No idea about ducaro, have to ask tiremen in this thread. Of course Viva can do 120. Whether can do it safely is another question. Maybe he don't have GF beside him  Crank means the engine try to start, instead of a "tik, tik" sound, which means battery kong. This post has been edited by dares: May 25 2012, 12:58 PM |
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GP mad man
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May 25 2012, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(lhwj @ May 25 2012, 12:46 PM) For No. 4, I get that problem occasionally, when I try and start a warm / hot engine. I doubt it's the spark plugs, maybe the fuel pump? For No. 2, when the air cond compressor kicks in while driving slowly in first or second gear on the manual tranny, it gives one big jerk to the car. It's serious damn annoying, especially if it kicks in while you're accelerating from a traffic light. The effect is not so much noticeable in higher gears and at higher speeds. Solution, change to a not-so-powderful compressor?  agreed on both. 1st and 2nd gear kicks in very very jerk my passenger tot i duno change gear and mati engine |
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TSr3apers
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May 25 2012, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 25 2012, 12:56 PM) Drive safe even when there's no passengers and the road is empty will in the middle of the night thn u will c a leng gal weaving at u to ask "can i tumpang ur car?" lolz btw yeah, drive safe and take cautions everytime~! Maintain ur car well to avoid and break down~! |
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lhwj
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May 25 2012, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ May 25 2012, 12:57 PM) So the truth is, the AK GB has shorter ratio then? Yes, after factoring in the final drive. |
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dares
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May 25 2012, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(lhwj @ May 25 2012, 01:00 PM) Yes, after factoring in the final drive. Because the IAFM variant has poorer low end torque?? |
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GP mad man
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May 25 2012, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(r3apers @ May 25 2012, 12:59 PM) will in the middle of the night thn u will c a leng gal weaving at u to ask "can i tumpang ur car?" lolz btw yeah, drive safe and take cautions everytime~! Maintain ur car well to avoid and break down~! lol~ then i will accelerate faster lar thx for the advice, now i m a slow driver... uncle style, learned from earlier comment in here  |
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lhwj
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May 25 2012, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ May 25 2012, 01:01 PM) Because the IAFM variant has poorer low end torque?? I dunno about that. Wished we could compare the torque graph between IAFM and IAFM+. I doubt there's a huge difference though, like CamTAKpro and IAFM. QUOTE(GP mad man @ May 25 2012, 12:59 PM) agreed on both. 1st and 2nd gear kicks in very very jerk my passenger tot i duno change gear and mati engine My personal solution is to turn on the air-cond only when I reach the main road (cruising), and reduce the amount of time spent in the lower gears, but this is dependent on traffic. |
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davidke20
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May 25 2012, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(zeone @ May 25 2012, 12:17 PM) Yayyyyy!! DIY Item ordered delivered by Poslaju liao! Surprised cos 2day Fri ie wkend here...normally NO del wan! Need only connect 3 wires...to 1. Audio/Power Socket fuse 2. Rear Lamps fuse 3. Grnd Now my prob is kenot find (2) fuse labelled Rear Lamps! There's one labelled Meter/Diagnostic. Does the Meter mean Panel Meter?  Any Bro can help identify (in cabin fusebox) fuse for rear lamps or lamps which are lighted when we on the lamps switch, pls? If no help, me gotta test 4other probable ones liao... Pleez...TQ! Not necccessarily radio, anything turned on with ACC is sufficient. Right side whole stretch is ACC powered accessories. I use the top fuse to tap my vacuum light, located top right. The common understanding for brake light/front light/small light is PARKING LAMP. Fuse located at the bottom left. Good luck. No time to take photo yet. Still driving meeting agents. Next week school holiday, dun want endup 12am only can finish work. |
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GP mad man
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May 25 2012, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(r3apers @ May 25 2012, 12:52 PM) 3) try yokohama or michelin if not mistaken... dares, V12k and david answer this please... (coz i still using stock tyre) 5) heavy? urs is auto or manual? if auto will be a bit heavy... got gf beside still wana chase ppl... drive safe while u had passengers~! tyre will change all ducaro 1st, budget not enough manual, aircon will cause heavier rite? gf always dark face when i go highway  |
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iXora.ix
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May 25 2012, 01:11 PM
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just use aircond lah bro.. haha.. is it a myth if we wind down the window while driving will save your fuel? myth rite. hahaha
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GP mad man
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May 25 2012, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ May 25 2012, 12:57 PM) So the truth is, the AK GB has shorter ratio then? No idea about ducaro, have to ask tiremen in this thread. Of course Viva can do 120. Whether can do it safely is another question. Maybe he don't have GF beside him Crank means the engine try to start, instead of a "tik, tik" sound, which means battery kong. tat viva drive alone open window, assume he off aircon no "tik tik", just normalstart engine sound but just cant turn on the engine (its afternoon with hot sun, too hot maybe? my termometer still 3 bar)
Added on May 25, 2012, 1:15 pmQUOTE(iXora.ix @ May 25 2012, 01:11 PM) just use aircond lah bro.. haha.. is it a myth if we wind down the window while driving will save your fuel? myth rite. hahaha not sure if it is myth... i used to off aircon before 10k service then my bro scolded and say dun drive like a lala kia...  i feel no aircon can pickup faster, m i rite? This post has been edited by GP mad man: May 25 2012, 01:15 PM |
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helldagger
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May 25 2012, 01:20 PM
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Getting Started
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Got TCSS tomorrow ah.. feel like coming but not sure if able to or not. Btw i love this saga. Really nice to drive. But i think i hv been travelling to much. Les than 2 week, 2000km d. Havent sent for 1st service( its 1000km right?) anything specific that i should know?
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GP mad man
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May 25 2012, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(helldagger @ May 25 2012, 01:20 PM) Got TCSS tomorrow ah.. feel like coming but not sure if able to or not. Btw i love this saga. Really nice to drive. But i think i hv been travelling to much. Les than 2 week, 2000km d. Havent sent for 1st service( its 1000km right?) anything specific that i should know? time to service bro... 1k service  |
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iXora.ix
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May 25 2012, 01:24 PM
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yes go for 1st service.. you dont want to void warranty rite..
saga is nice to drive.. plan to lowered it and plonk in ultra racing bar .. so can take corner confidently..
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zeone
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May 25 2012, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 25 2012, 01:08 PM) Not necccessarily radio, anything turned on with ACC is sufficient. Right side whole stretch is ACC powered accessories. I use the top fuse to tap my vacuum light, located top right. The common understanding for brake light/front light/small light is PARKING LAMP. Fuse located at the bottom left. Good luck. No time to take photo yet. Still driving meeting agents. Next week school holiday, dun want endup 12am only can finish work. Tks a meg, Bro!!  With yr guidance abv, hope save lotsa time testing all over fusebox. Will post relevant pics after DIY ok liao. |
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GP mad man
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May 25 2012, 01:27 PM
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thx all sifus advice, will do the necessary... if any issue, will ask again but for sure i still flw tis thread silently  |
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lhwj
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May 25 2012, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ May 25 2012, 01:11 PM) just use aircond lah bro.. haha.. is it a myth if we wind down the window while driving will save your fuel? myth rite. hahaha Winding down windows will increase drag so it will not save fuel. As for the air cond factor, I think with the air cond on and windows up in city traffic driving, consumption will be worse compared to windows down and air cond off. On the highway though, air cond on and windows up is definitely better than air cond off and windows down. QUOTE(GP mad man @ May 25 2012, 01:12 PM) i feel no aircon can pickup faster, m i rite? I think your butt dyno should easily feel that |
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dares
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May 25 2012, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(GP mad man @ May 25 2012, 01:12 PM) tat viva drive alone open window, assume he off aircon no "tik tik", just normalstart engine sound but just cant turn on the engine (its afternoon with hot sun, too hot maybe? my termometer still 3 bar)
Added on May 25, 2012, 1:15 pmnot sure if it is myth... i used to off aircon before 10k service then my bro scolded and say dun drive like a lala kia... i feel no aircon can pickup faster, m i rite? the compressor draws engine power, so you suffer from power loss. furthermore our compressor is freakin heavy. Someone here mentioned before our powderful compressor takes 33Nm of torque away when it kicks in. As for the engine cannot start problem, no idea |
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