QUOTE(dares @ May 24 2012, 10:50 PM)
Suspension definitely can. Airbag, ABS and EBD, theoretically can but won't be easy, need to upgrade ECU. IAFM+ component, still no answer on that.
The Getrag tranny, I dunno if it is tuned to the IAFM+ engine as it has slightly different performance figures than the IAFM engine. If it is, best to do an engine transplant as well.
In the end, get a new car better
QUOTE(zeone @ May 24 2012, 11:34 PM)
Upgrade FL SE to FLX SE?
Not worth it...unless like Bro dares said (in quote below) ie change to brand NEW FLX SE!!
At least then new car (with all that yu want) is covered by official warranty!! Not @ own risk if like juz follow yr idea...
I think I might as well wait for Saga v.3.0
QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 25 2012, 08:46 AM)
For manual transmission cars, their engine management are standalone(semi auto like step tronic/tip tronic/sequential excluded). Changing gear box will not change engine output, but switching from manual to auto or the other way round is entirely different story. Engine will alway detect P & refuse to move.
Because manual tranny's TCU is in fact the driver's brain
QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 25 2012, 08:46 AM)
Lhwj always the fuel save king.
QUOTE(dares @ May 25 2012, 10:37 AM)
The last part was what I meant, nothing to do with ECU.
The getrag tranny has shorter ratios than the FL/BLM tranny. I'm wondering if that is because it is more efficient for the IAFM+ engine.
QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 25 2012, 11:41 AM)
I've been modifying cars for decades, but have never bother to learn about gear ratio calculation. Those days all we did was changing gears from big CC vehicle tranny to small CC's tranny so the small CC can increase top speed.
So, how to differentiate? Short ratio means the gear smaller and closer ratio to achive top speed? Or the gear bigger and thread far apart to achive pickup?
To cut the crap short, meaning change to getrag can get higher top speed? Or better pickup by sacrficing top speed?
QUOTE(dares @ May 25 2012, 11:45 AM)
short ratio means you go through the gears faster (reach max torque faster), good for playing pickup. For small cc cars it is better to have short ratios.
My reasons for desiring the Getrag tranny are due to the different final drive, and while I haven't driven a manual FLX before (only the CVT one), I'm guessing the shifting feel is much improved. People who have driven my car said they like it very much except for the shifting feel, and I agree. If you're going to be rowing through the gears many times while driving it's worth getting a gearbox with a good feel.
Anyway, about the ratio, see this:
MFA30A is the original Aichi Kikai tranny on BLM and FL, I'm guessing the Getrag one is 5MTT200A.
Yes, at first glance the Getrag ratios seem shorter than the AK tranny, but don't forget to multiply by the
final drive (AK 4.705, Getrag 3.8). If you do this, the ratios look like this:
Gear No./AK ratio/Getrag ratio
1 / 15.682 / 13.471
2 / 9.194 / 7.771
3 / 6.046 / 5.373
4 / 4.357 / 4.005
5 / 3.552 / 3.336
Those of you having the AK tranny will know that the ratios are really short. It's good for power and acceleration, especially since Campro has lousy low end torque, but then again I still think it's too low. My typical shifting pattern is like this: 1st gear just to get the car moving, I only stay in it for less than 2 seconds, 2nd until 20 km/h, 3rd until 40 km/h, 4th until near 60 km/h and then 5th onwards. I don't mind shifting up so fast but the real issue is that at 110 km/h the engine drones at 3,600 RPM which is totally unnecessary, seeing that the CVT can do the same speed at much lower revs. Maybe adding a 6th gear would be helpful.
QUOTE(iXora.ix @ May 25 2012, 11:25 AM)
morning guys..
so sad today.. wake up kinda late 8.30 .. rush to nearest SC which is 1km from my house.. and the Q .. at least 10 car infront of me.. aiyoo... cant tahan drive back to my house and call my mom to go pasar and breakfast.. so sad... plan try to camp infront of SC tomorrow morning..
Wah. I go at 8 am sharp but get no. 15 in the queue
May 25 2012, 12:17 PM
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