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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V23 - Dead or Alive!

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creative zn
post Jun 13 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 13 2012, 04:42 PM)
if you want that price badly then I can give you that price. bagi balik RM100 cash rebate.
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Lol. But why ah 1.3 FLX got 2k to 1.5k rebate. While FLX SE i heard rm500 to none.
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post Jun 13 2012, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(creative zn @ Jun 13 2012, 04:44 PM)
Lol. But why ah 1.3 FLX got 2k to 1.5k rebate. While FLX SE i heard rm500 to none.
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FLX SE the rebate comes from the salesperson's commission. That salesman who give out RM500, i wonder he kelentong or if its real, apa he gonna makan. lol

Officially, only the FLX 1.3 CVT was given discount.
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post Jun 13 2012, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 13 2012, 04:46 PM)
FLX SE the rebate comes from the salesperson's commission. That salesman who give out RM500, i wonder he kelentong or if its real, apa he gonna makan. lol

Officially, only the FLX 1.3 CVT was given discount.
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post Jun 13 2012, 06:01 PM

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Just for your information: some dealers thir outlet boss,manager is the sales person themselves. They're salary base with 0 komisen, therefore they can afford to give away that 500 bucks discount. Outlet itself are entitled incentive if they achieve certain target(which is way higher than commission), which they can claim back from principle.

Another marketing strategy is the outlet boss/manager to promise their sales person to give rebate of up to X amount, whilst they still entitled comission(from the incentive rebate).

To buy cheap new car, go to the outlet boss(if they layan you lar I mean), but their salesman also wanna cari makan. Most probably the boss will get 1 of his favorite salesman to attend you and give instruction something like "ah 9, this is my fren. Make sure you give him diskaun ha!" Then the boss blink his eye give signal to Ah 9. In the end after struggle few more same treatment from different outlet, you figured you're still getting 100/200 diskaun only.

My fren who work in 1 of the "P" outlet said, customer who is good without negotiate too much, he will personally thorw in some free gift. Make sure the car delivered nice & clean. If he very2 hapy with the customer, he will also throw in 100 bucks petrol voucher. However, for those customer who cut his throat 1, he'll disconnet the meter cable/odor sensor bring the car out few days, drive like free company car with a trade plate on it. After that only send to RM3 cyclone car wash. Which is also why some people got their new car & found it like being driven recklessly.

Over & out. None of the above statement direct implying on particular outlet/manufacturer/sales person.
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post Jun 13 2012, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Jun 13 2012, 03:49 PM)
23rd i might not free,24th not free also,lols...
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Then let us know when u free la


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post Jun 13 2012, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 13 2012, 06:13 PM)
Then let us know when u free la


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post Jun 13 2012, 09:31 PM

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post Jun 13 2012, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jun 13 2012, 09:16 PM)
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wei, next TT you also cum lar. we lack of ice cream con, very hard to do gymkhana ma. with your car park right there can be our hairpin curve no need so much ice cream con liao laugh.gif
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post Jun 13 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 13 2012, 09:34 PM)
wei, next TT you also cum lar. we lack of ice cream con, very hard to do gymkhana ma. with your car park right there can be our hairpin curve no need so much ice cream con liao laugh.gif
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He stomp on your car with his gajah feet then u noe ph34r.gif
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post Jun 13 2012, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 13 2012, 09:31 PM)
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 13 2012, 09:34 PM)
wei, next TT you also cum lar. we lack of ice cream con, very hard to do gymkhana ma. with your car park right there can be our hairpin curve no need so much ice cream con liao laugh.gif
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laugh.gif See lah if timing is right, can come one. Inb4 Persona thread no TT. sad.gif


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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 13 2012, 09:38 PM)
He stomp on your car with his gajah feet then u noe ph34r.gif
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I only whack with my 3rd leg. brows.gif

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post Jun 13 2012, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 13 2012, 06:01 PM)
Just for your information: some dealers thir outlet boss,manager is the sales person themselves. They're salary base with 0 komisen, therefore they can afford to give away that 500 bucks discount. Outlet itself are entitled incentive if they achieve certain target(which is way higher than commission), which they can claim back from principle.

Another marketing strategy is the outlet boss/manager to promise their sales person to give rebate of up to X amount, whilst they still entitled comission(from the incentive rebate).

To buy cheap new car, go to the outlet boss(if they layan you lar I mean), but their salesman also wanna cari makan. Most probably the boss will get 1 of his favorite salesman to attend you and give instruction something like "ah 9, this is my fren. Make sure you give him diskaun ha!" Then the boss blink his eye give signal to Ah 9. In the end after struggle few more same treatment from different outlet, you figured you're still getting 100/200 diskaun only.

My fren who work in 1 of the "P" outlet said, customer who is good without negotiate too much, he will personally thorw in some free gift. Make sure the car delivered nice & clean. If he very2 hapy with the customer, he will also throw in 100 bucks petrol voucher. However, for those customer who cut his throat 1, he'll disconnet the meter cable/odor sensor bring the car out few days, drive like free company car with a trade plate on it. After that only send to RM3 cyclone car wash. Which is also why some people got their new car & found it like being driven recklessly.

Over & out. None of the above statement direct implying on particular outlet/manufacturer/sales person.
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post Jun 13 2012, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jun 13 2012, 09:39 PM)
I only whack with my 3rd leg.  brows.gif
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This one?

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post Jun 13 2012, 09:47 PM

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This one?
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No. Mine one much bigger. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 13 2012, 09:38 PM)
He stomp on your car with his gajah feet then u noe ph34r.gif
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Can claim own damage/kfk. Go claim 9 his persoga later. No scared of his gajah. blink.gif

QUOTE(gxianfu @ Jun 13 2012, 09:43 PM)
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The blue plate is call trade plate, when you see those sohigh with this plate on the road, don't go near. They're the salesman. Car is not theirs, but the plate provide the "goods in transit-in this case a car" insurance coverage even without roadtax. By the way, the story is NOT entirely involved in all outlets. I'm just saying some may be doing it. But for sure some of them are doing it as they offer me the exact same deal to be their broker.

QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jun 13 2012, 09:47 PM)
No. Mine one much bigger.  whistling.gif
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post Jun 13 2012, 11:19 PM

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post Jun 13 2012, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 13 2012, 11:19 PM)
suddenly have the urge to pasang pedal lock... hmm.gif
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Urge? Strong strong urge? whistling.gif
Nike says...."Juz Do it!!" rclxms.gif

ps. Of course, then share share pics lo...& experience with it (a review?)...TQ! tongue.gif


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post Jun 13 2012, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 12 2012, 10:15 PM)
Please login http://m.fuelly.com and give us full detail report of the FC. So far you're the craziest arse that save the most! nod.gif
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Okay then here's the trip report.

Had only 4 hours of sleep. Woke up at 6:30 am. Left at 7 sharp. Odometer reading, 39,524 km and about 140 km on the trip meter, from the past few days of driving in KL. Four bars remaining = ) Joined PLUS at Sungai Buloh junction. After the Sungai Buloh Hospital junction there was a massive jam, and it wasn't even moving icon_question.gif Thankfully after twenty mins the queue cleared and I saw the police, PLUS Ronda and other people on the left side, couldn't really see what was there but on the right side there was a gaping hole in the divider. Probably from an accident last night.

I cruised at about 110 km/h, reached Tapah R&R just before 9 am. Went for a toilet break, had a sausage bun for breakfast and filled up. Odometer reading then was 39,659 km, which means that I travelled 135 km from PJ to Tapah, and 285 km since the last fuel up. Amount filled was 20.327 litres, giving 7.1L/100km.

Exited at Tapah and got onto the trunk road. For the first 10 km or so the road was empty (no one in front or behind me), and pretty flat too so I just stayed in 5th gear. The first obstacle was a lorry, to my surprise the driver slowed to the side and waved at me to overtake when it was safe. Then later there was a slight queue of three cars, a Dugong going slowly, behind the Dugong a Waja followed by a 6th generation Civic. Then later a Cherry Easter MPV appeared behind me. When it was clear I overtook the Civic and Waja both in one go, then subsequently the Dugong. Surprisingly the Cherry followed suit. I think there were one or two other excavators after that too.

I switched off the air-cond when my GPS showed elevation of about 300 metres.

The stretch between Tapah and Ringlet isn't really steep, I was shifting mainly between third and fourth gear. The first bar of the fuel gauge dropped after about 70 km. This is about the same as my usual city consumption (which is better than most because I seldom get stuck in jams).

The Cherry stayed behind me all the way until Ringlet. After Ringlet the road became busier, but it wasn't so narrow. I drove on, climbing higher and higher until Brinchang, where I stopped somewhere just after Equatorial for a few minutes to stretch my legs. GPS elevation there was 1,616 metres

Pics from my crappy Blackberry 9700 phone:

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The Simpang Pulai downhill road was a good drive. You can touch 70-80 km/h quite frequently, I think at one point I went over 100 km/h. There are a few corners where you need to slow down to 40 km/h but those are rare. Look out for the giant [>] or [<] signboard.

Surprisingly both roads were well maintained, fairly smooth and even. There were a few landslide spots but JKR workers were actively working on the site.

Now, about the car. I don't have experience driving other cars on these kind of roads, but subjectively, I thought it did rather well, considering everything's completely stock. Having a manual tranny helps too. It's always good to have total control over your gears. I always complain about the gear ratios being too short, but I guess it's a plus point for uphill driving. As it's my first time on that road I didn't push too hard, but drove at a pace I felt comfortable with.

I was driving alone, with about 30 kg of stuff in the boot. For climbing and overtaking, I felt the engine wasn't underpowered at all, as long as the correct gear is selected. I didn't rev high, about 3,000 RPM gave sufficient torque. There are quite a few things which could be improved, the A pillar really gets in the way during right corners (I had a near miss with a bus because of that), and I've brought this up a few times before, the placement of the accelerator and brake makes it impossible for me to practice heel and toe unless I find a way to raise the accelerator.

So overall it was a very enjoyable drive and I will definitely be going back again soon.

At Simpang Pulai I joined the highway again for a short stretch to Ipoh. Picked my friend for lunch and then we both went back to Penang, and finally:

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(My apologies for the quality)

Final odometer reading today is 40,020 km, which means I've driven a total of 496 km today.



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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 13 2012, 11:19 PM)
suddenly have the urge to pasang pedal lock... hmm.gif
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I installed one myself. I really think it's probably one of the better things you can do to secure your car.

QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 13 2012, 11:32 PM)
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Wow, thorough report complete with pictures. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

Thanks man. What was your final refill after you travelled that 496km?
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post Jun 14 2012, 12:09 AM

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I always enjoy the drive up CH, its intersting enough with the twisting roads, but not as demanding as Genting.

But going to CH straight from KL is pretty tiring laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 13 2012, 11:32 PM)
Pics from my crappy Blackberry 9700 phone:

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Those are nice shots. Pretty cool jor. Uih! Didn't blanco your plate number meh? Here someone very envy leather seat geh. brows.gif

Thanks for update. notworthy.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 14 2012, 12:09 AM)
I always enjoy the drive up CH, its intersting enough with the twisting roads, but not as demanding as Genting.

But going to CH straight from KL is pretty tiring  laugh.gif
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Drive to CHINA do what wo blink.gif Plane ticket cheaper than petrol blink.gif I went back to try to search for my root and found the old house no longer there. My uncle also moved to Foshan, the Wong Fei Hung place ady blink.gif From here drive to Yunnan like 5000km, think it should be pretty tired.


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