Hmm.. Gonna give em a ring 1st tomorrow and see how. Oh. Im based in serdang. Shouldn't be a problem to meet em i guess. Hope the process not taking a month. Cant wait ady man.

Btw, you guys normally got how much interest rate? 2.88% is normal? Im applying graduate scheme.

normally it is the loan that eats up the time. Once loan approve, normally 1-2 weeks car will arrive (for my showroom).

Graduate scheme, interest rate is higher a bit, now I think is around 3.0% +/-

Ah. I see. Must process quickly. Hope got stock.
Oh, the link that i gave earlier state starting 1st June, grad scheme can get 2.88 for local car with 10% down payment. Damn excited to own a car. Cant sleep 1 month. lol

This post has been edited by creative zn: Jun 11 2012, 12:43 AM

lol, i understand your excitement too. haha

Remember to check for the discount.. As the earlier forumer said there is RM2K discount for saga flx....

Too bad I only get RM1K discount from dealer.

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Added on June 11, 2012, 12:54 amI checked the proton edar webpage, the dealer i went is an authorised sales dealer for proton edar, same as the one in mutiara damansara one...

This post has been edited by li_5997: Jun 11 2012, 12:54 AM

As far as I understand, you're the exact same of my kind before I own a BLM. I was all the way racing carburetor and LSD gear oil injected absorber kinda guy. If you haven't been driving and soft legs car for long time, FLX, be it FLX SE is all comfortable for you, regardless tyre 50/55 series. However. my case is slightly different. Before I sold off my WIRA1.6, I already bought the BLM. Few of the comparison and might be your advice in the future:

1) I did 160kmh on MEX with my WIRA, RPM was never too high, car is always steady even the big corner after Sri Kembangan R&R towards KLIA. But even if I did 140kmh in my BLM for the same corner, it felt like the car is going to turtle anytime. The amount of bodyroll is up the an extend of unbearable.

2) I've changed to 15" wheels after a month, and figured 55 series on a BLM doesn't work well. Sangkut fender very often. However, I compare my car with other people's 15" 50 series tyre, mine is more comfortable. Less harsh compare to the 50 series. FLX doesn't have any problem so far with 50/55 series tyre because of the stiffer spring, less free play for the tyre to hit the fender. Heard FLX SE's spring even harder as the car originally fixed with a 15" wheels, most probably Plotong already figured the soft spring is going to create more trouble in the future, and therefore they change to a stiffer spring. I've also test ride/drive a few FLX SE and found they indeed much stiffer than a BLM/FL. However, I couldn't feel much difference between an FLX with FLX SE. The only difference I can tell is the tyre. 14" 60 tyres on FLX, whereas 15"50 tyres on FLX SE, definitely FXL SE is bumpier.

3) When I drive WIRA 1.6 and or my ISWARA, the feeling of the gas pedal is immediate, direct, ultra sensitive. Its more like when I touch the pedal, immediately I hear induction sound from my pretty racing filter, especially when I use K&N, it does sounds like CHARGING. After I got my BLM, the 1st thing in mind is, holy crap!!! WTF am I supposed to do with an electronic pedal?! The general feedback from the pedal is lag, infact DEAD! I floor the pedal, it took a second to rev up my RPM! I've been searching high + low for cure, ended up some guy come and offer me something like pay him 300 bucks, he'll setup a piggy bag to over ride my pedal control, so the car gain more response and horse power. Right before I went to ATM to get money, some sifu here saved my ass, namely Kenjilew. Those piggy bag might work well on 4AT old FL/BLM, but very less effect to FLX CVT/Manual cars. The throttle response can be improve by changing a nut. Don't ask me how, because I don't know. So, save all the money you gonna spend and buy those sifu teh tarik so they help you to "update" your throttle response better.

4) After I installed a vacuum gauge on my BLM(I have a vacuum gauge on every of my car, even my lawn mower), I figured the throttle response is NOT slow. By reading the amount of suction when you touch on the pedal you'll see the whole intake system LOSS vacuum very quickly. That is the proof of none lag throttle response. However, according to my previous experience, it felt more like - you change to 4G63T throttle body to your 4G15P, without updating your fuel rail, fuel pump, fuel regulator not boost up, injector remain standard, even computer hasn't tune yet. The very 1st time you test drive your newly installed oversized throttle body, that's the exact same feeling of DbW. Lay man term as, open mouth too big, sucked too much air inside. My next project is to collect 1 of the dirtiest air-filter and stuff it on my car and see what happen Currently this is all base on my theory as I read from the vacuum gauge.

5) Last but not least, I'm still switching on wipers when I trying to negotiate right turn on my BLM

Changing driving habit from full mechanical machine to a full electronic controlled vehicle is hard, but once you get used to it, you actually enjoy the new level of comfort driving experience. For example, a heavily modified WIRA manual, when you're doing like 3krpm, suddenly infront slow down(not totally stop), you release your gas pedal and your car start to jerk because of the inertia kicked back, with DbW you say bye bye to this forever And after that, when you get back to your old school vehicle, then you appreciate the immediate response of these old machines, the direct feelings from the road, buttsecking strut feedback that tells you every single detail from the road.



The girls is sitting out there, and they're my favorite among all my other cars. Its not that I have a newer SAGA and forgot about the old SAGA. Both of them have different characteristics. I learnt to enjoy each of their own characters and still slowly trying to adapt my driving style to use them both on a daily basis.

FLX and FLX SE have the same stock springs.

Niama, grandfather story again. But I like reading long internet articles. Everytime I see your post dunno should laugh or cry

Even more incredible is that sometimes you post grandfather story from your phone

This post has been edited by dares: Jun 11 2012, 01:21 AM

Guys, does anyone face engine suddenly die with yours flx? Click Me Pls I heard this due to CVT. But since proton has recall their CVT user previously to fix the problem, does new batch will more likely to have this problem?

Any car can potentially have this problem. Some cars catch fire, some suddenly stall, dugong some steering wheel suddenly lock cannot steer, some auto-accelerate.

Am just saying this problem is not limited to Saga only. I have ever only heard of one case of CVT belt snapping due to manufacturing defect. There were multiple cases of FLX CVT indicator switching on and the car goes into safe mode (ECU limit speed and RPM), but those were early batches. Even if the CVT indicator comes one, just drive to the roadside, switch off your engine, wait for a few minutes and switch it back on.

This post has been edited by dares: Jun 11 2012, 01:27 AM

Thanks man. Gonna join you guys soon.

That is murderous wei ... exam oso not this hard man ...

1) Gotta agree. Anything above 140 is kinda scary.

2) So would you prefer 15" 55 series with stiffer suspension or 15" 50 series with softer suspension?

3) Who do I belanja teh tarik for this!?!??!

4) So you mean the throttle is actually responding, just that it sucks too much air in? That's what causes the slow response?

Actually I was very surprised by david's story this time.

There was no embarrassing story about him being clumsy in front of pretty girl. Maybe because there was no pretty girl in the story.

2) No complain on BLM, already got used to it. Now 15"55 like a sampan. However, the only dislike is rear wheel sag in. Feels like going to take off anytime. During full load even worst. Don't see this problem on FLX wei.

3) Kenjilew said he dunno how to do it, but his car already did by the grand sifus here. I personally tested his car, drove like a moron the other night(not my car mar, sumore kenji sitting beside ask me to slam 9 the throttle, so I did la) Those grandsifus are Mahihi, V12k. You may put your legs on their gas pedal(if they let you lar), try it by yourself to see how fast the throttle response is.

4) According to the vacuum meter, there are no lagging in throttle response. I experienced the exactly same "lagging" response after I oversized my throttle body with my car last time before I sempat to upgrade the surrounding supporting peripherals. It felt like choke by thin air when jogging at Genting highland. However, I don't know how the "nut" can help overriding the lag response though. And I don't need to "nut" it as I already "nutted" my right foot instead. Control from my leg instead of changing the mechanical setup, avoid the car being "abused" by other family member, namely ma wife.

Awfully lot happening everyday, not worth mention unless special. Like yesterday wash car at ESSO that time, I was purposely get down the car to ensure those bugger clean my car properly giving instruction and annoy them as usual. Then another GETZ drove in also, can't help but to realized there is a hot chick sitting inside. Out of showing off my taiko skill, purposely walk behind the car shouting at the other car wash guy then accidently stepped into the middle longkang and semi kneel on the floor So, no choice pretend like duck down and wipe exhaust pipe la Luckily she didn't notice I was stepped into the longkang, so I proceed to vacuum and interior cleaning section. Parked ma car only realized I wet ma pants during jatuh longkang After she also drove in interior cleaning section only I realized she's peaking on my wet pants and laughing over the phone probably chatting about me with her friends already

This post has been edited by davidke20: Jun 11 2012, 06:30 AM

This DBW lag also got some benefit especially for manual geh...

Compare to those cable throttle, our Saga after shift gear no need to input throttle to match the RPM and car speed, because the RPM is stayed for about 1s before it drop, so after shift gear, just engage the clutch and the car go smoothly.

Only drawback is what i said, stay at slope by using clutch and throttle is difficult and need alot of attention to do that, else engine stall.

1. wira is alot lower than BLM...thats why its much more stable
u try see ferrari....lower or not?
the car which is lower to the road always more stable in high speed and cornering
BLM is consider quite high already actually....its still stable during high speed all becuz of its heavy weight

3. DBW problem...all new car have them...its all abt getting used to

5. another getting used to problem...i've no problem with it

Agreed bro, my statement merely denying it matter of fact, I still maintain a WIRA on top of my GaGas. Again, I'm trying to adapt, still

My gf 'Bus' Kenari (since dares adi used 'van' to describe our Saga ) body roll is lower than my BLM wo, it can go 15-20km/h more faster than my BLM without fear it will turtle leh...

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Jun 11 2012, 09:41 AM

hi all, have you did CVT's TCU refresh at SC ? ,it seem resolved the jerkiness issue at low-speed.

2) Yea, the rear is very soft. The FLX got stiffer springs so that was resolved at the cost of a bit of comfort.
3) I see, now must go cari them. lol. Thanks for the info.
4) Well, hopefully you can figure it out, then.

Thanks, for the story, btw. My quota for today fill edi.

I believe the Kenari, although tall, has a lower suspension, right? How fast is that anyways?

That's great news, actually!!

Anyone else can confirm this?

I know Dugong and Maivee throttle response dem fast ler.

I wonder, will the BLM/FL/FLX skid or will it actually turtle if pushed too much

A couple of members here did, but one report that it gave him more problems, the other report no difference

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