good that you drive fords

Jap Fords, 4 of those.

While there may be a need to get camber kits, the ones sold in the majority of tire shops just don't cut it. Too soft and easily lead to the need to do it again. I'd go for proper toes than be unnecessarily concerned about cambers. If I do need my cambers adjusted like when I set up a lowered suspension, I'd go for a good kit rather than a concentric bolt they keep selling. Even then, its a maybe. My tires don't wear out if my camber is out but they will when the toe is not correct.

All my cars are still on their ori bolts, even the Iswara.

can you take a picture of those strut adjustable camber plates on an iswara that have it's original strut/suspensions?

Iswara tak da la.....but what I'm saying is, you don't need the bolts as much as the tire shop wants you to believe.

and my message was merely majority of cars do not have anything that can adjust camber.

Ok lor....need to adjust, adjust lor using that infernal concentric.

as infernal it may be, how much do you think a custom camber plate will cost? or an adjustable (what? change whole suspensions just to get camber adjustments?) that have camber plates/pillow ball mounts?

how many infernal camber bolts i have to break with Malaysian rally grade road in mind, for me to catch up the cost of what's been mentioned above?
assuming per bolt is just rm15-30ish

and that aside, how many ford owners do you think Malaysia has?

bottom line: please try not to simply misguide people or send out blanket statements thinking it being hard fact.

My point is, you don't usually need them. TS has a new car and he only changed the rims rather that geometry, yet those buggers want him to change the bolts. Why? That bad meh?

I agree with posts nos 8,9 & 10.

Bottom line. You don't need them most of the time. And Fords aren't the only ones with plates. Hondas don't have adjustable cambers either and they don't recommend those so called concentrics. I wonder why?

May 17 2012, 01:35 AM, updated 4 years ago

you're so concerned about TS?

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i hope you isn't referring to me, because you hardly know who i am and how i drive

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 3 2015, 02:53 AM

Then 28, 30 & 31. Why are you so concerned if people don't want to get their bolts changed?

not at all, just concern about you misinforming others

How is it misinforming when you don't need the stuff? I also said that many cars have adjustable cambers. Not correct? Even when they do, tire shops still want to change camber bolts. Is that right? Or is that great info or good work? Do they really know what they're doing?

but how would you know if someone need or doesn't need 'the stuff'? and no, not correct as not many cars have adjustable cambers. your ford may have, but a huge majority of say, proton, does not.

if a vehicle already have adjustable camber, and a tire shop still want to change it, it is obviously wrong.
however i believe that we do not have such a case here, at least not in this thread until someone decides to take a picture of their strut top to prove your case.

Ala......you mean my Iswara needed one in its 20 years? Tarak la and it's been up and down the peninsular. Refer to the posts above. I wonder who misinformed them.

I bet you my Beemers never needed any camber adjustments by changing a bolt either.

my iswara needed camber adjustments, else id be forced to change tires every 10k km
good for your beemers

Mine never did. Only things done were changing the abs, mounts and bearing. Its still on its straight bolts. Tyres last years until time to change because they were too old. Only recently had to redo the suspension due to sticking bearing on the right mount.

You might want to find better tire techs.

still going on with your assumptions

Well, considering you have been changing yours and I have yet to change one in 35 years of driving........it's pretty telling.

oh you KNOW i have been changing mine all the time?
what is it telling then? tire mechanics are terribad?

come on now.

You did say you need yours adjusting and even one pair is perhaps one pair too many. Unless of course, you keep changing your suspension set up, but even then toe is more important. Never changed mine and my tyres last way longer than 40k. I change tyres when they're old or when they're scrubbed due to exuberant cornering. Other than that I leave my cambers alone and so does my tech.