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post May 16 2012, 01:09 PM, updated 14y ago

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Semalam aku mengalami pengalaman yang sama dengan Encik KHARZUL RAFI MD YAZID iaitu enjin mati secara tiba-tiba semasa sedang memandu PROTON SAGA FLX 1.3 (CVT) pada kelajuan 150km/j. Kelajuan 150km/j itu cuma dalam tempoh 15 saat sahaja semasa sedang memotong kereta.Lampu amaran CVT menyala dan pada masa yang sama enjin mati mengejut.

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Pihak PROTON boleh buat dua pengesan suhu untuk unit CVT tersebut. Pengesan suhu pertama adalah sebagai amaran kepada pemandu dengan cara memaparkan lampu amaran CVT pada suhu tertentu sebelum mencapai suhu maksimum CVT. Lampu amaran CVT dipaparkan untuk beberapa minit sebelum enjin dimatikan. Pengesan suhu kedua adalah untuk mengesan suhu maksimum ‘belt’ CVT dan mematikan enjin.
Adakan ‘cut off’ untuk ‘top speed’ kereta PROTON SAGA FLX 1.3 (CVT) pada kelajuan 14okm/j.
Diharap pihak PROTON yang LEBIH ARIF dengan perkara ini boleh menyelesaikan masalah ini dengan secepat mungkin.

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so the car terkezut izzit? laugh.gif
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post May 16 2012, 01:16 PM

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zomg bahaya enjin mati tiba2 huhue, PROTON manager sila masuk menjawab2
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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ May 16 2012, 01:14 PM)
so the car terkezut izzit?  laugh.gif
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INI Komen yg lebih power


bodoh punya manusia nak sokong tu biarlah berpada2. .ini fakta berasas proton dan kerajaan harus bertanggungjawab kpd semua pengguna dan pembeli kenderaan PRoton atas kualiti yg tidak setimpal dengan harga.kebebalan dan kesombongan proton sudah melampaui batas akibatnya pembeli yg menangung kesusahan dan kerugian berlipat ganda bersamaan harga yg dimonopoli oleh kronisma.jika manusia bertambah tua umurnya sepatutnya lebih matang dan berpengalaman dan kehidupan akn bertambah teratur.tetapi bagi proton lagi lama dalam bidang automotive lagi bertambah bebal,sombong,menipu pembeli dgn kualiti dan harga yg tk setimpal.bila agaknya mereka ni akan bertangungjawab terhadap barang rekaan mereka.kerajaan dan proton mengharapkn rakyat negara ini menyokong kenderaan malaysia tetapi dimasa sama rakyat pembeli dibiar menanggung segala beban dan kerugian akibat kebodohan proton dalam rekaannya.
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New kind of speed limiter?
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QUOTE(little_mozart @ May 16 2012, 01:17 PM)
INI Komen yg lebih power
bodoh punya manusia nak sokong tu biarlah berpada2. .ini fakta berasas proton dan kerajaan harus bertanggungjawab kpd semua pengguna dan pembeli kenderaan PRoton atas kualiti yg tidak setimpal dengan harga.kebebalan dan kesombongan proton sudah melampaui batas akibatnya pembeli yg menangung kesusahan dan kerugian berlipat ganda bersamaan harga yg dimonopoli oleh kronisma.jika manusia bertambah tua umurnya sepatutnya lebih matang dan berpengalaman dan kehidupan akn bertambah teratur.tetapi bagi proton lagi lama dalam bidang automotive lagi bertambah bebal,sombong,menipu pembeli dgn kualiti dan harga yg tk setimpal.bila agaknya mereka ni akan bertangungjawab terhadap barang rekaan mereka.kerajaan dan proton mengharapkn rakyat negara ini menyokong kenderaan malaysia tetapi dimasa sama rakyat pembeli dibiar menanggung segala beban dan kerugian akibat kebodohan proton dalam rekaannya.
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sir yang pecut sampai 150 tu betui ke? yg hang pegi lari sampai 150 apasal? nak minatak saman? kalu polis cakap 120km/hr mean 120km/hr lar..kalo nak test max top speed pegi buat dyno, siap ade chart, bole pot kat pestbook
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third grade mia CVT and you drive 150 km/h what for?
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fuuuu... so cvt from proton is speed limiter? dont know maintain speed at 110 long long will cause sudden stop... ?
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SEEMS VERY SERIOUS ISSUE

Saya juga pengguna PROTON SAGA FLX 1.3(CVT). Baru guna 3 hari enjin mati tengah jalan. sebelum tu pergi kenduri kereta jemur tengah panas. Dah berapa kali jadi macam tu. Asal jemur tengah panas je mesti mati enjin tengah jalan. Cuba bayangkan kalau tengah bawa kat tengah highway tetibe enjin mati, nak pulak ade kereta datang dari belakang, tak ke boleh melayang nyawa. huh!! menakutkan kan. NYESAL PULAK BELI KERETA PROTON NI.


TAKUTNYE: sama la, kereta i mati engine byk kali. dan paling teruk, skali mati kat highway. n bukan tu je. i tak dapat start balik, dan kereta tengah bergerak dan brake rosak (jammed) and i tak dpt brake, jadi kena tarik handbrake. stop tengah2 highway kena honk semua kereta kat belakang!!!



kwn sye sama gak pakai 3ari FLX ttiba ejin mati kt haiwy 5am(tapah)....nsib baik dpt tolak kete kt tepi pstu kol proton memang palat service punye servis kul 9pm baru selesai anta kt pusat...dorg da repair tp kwn aku xnk takut pakai... suruh dorg setelkan bank loan pstu mintak tuka persona.....persona pun sakit kepala stiap bulan kwn aku bawak servis center wat complain...betuiiii mnyesal beli kete pukimak proton...
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tak bole ke proton tu forwardkan pernyataan dia ke JPJ/polis?

150 km/j bukan laju aje, membahayakan orang lain jugak tuh. kalau pengadu tu perempuan lagi la... doh.gif
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Kawan sekerja saya baru sahaja kamalangan apabila kenderaan Saganya enjin mati semasa memandu menyebabkan kegagalan power stering dan brek sehingga melanggar pokok pada hari ini 16/2/2012
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haha that saga flx problem, even saga blm has it. experienced the engine suddenly died before

This post has been edited by Augus7: May 16 2012, 01:27 PM
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Next time when i work, I'll have to face all these problems from using proton...gotta buy saga coz no money...sad sad.gif
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fuuuuuuu

my top speed wif flx is 140km/h...no mati enjin...i heard b4 bout this mati enjin thg due to cvt, now remind me again...vavi la me sked liao
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enjin mati terkejut sebab dapat pergi 150kmph?
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sebelum ni,saya bercadang sama ada beli Myvi lagi best atau saga FLX. masa tu belum buat sebarang keputusan..tapi akhirnya saya beli Myvi baru. tahu kah kenapa? Saga FLX hampir membunuh saya dan rakan saya semasa pejalanan pulang dari KL ke Sungai petani kedah! . masa tu, member saya baru je beli saga flx, kami ni rakan sekampung, dan bercadang untuk pulang ke kampung bersama sama. so bila dalam perjalanan ke ipoh, lampu CVT dah menyala, so kami pun berhenti di perhentian tol, chek chek, no problem, then kami pun start perjalanan kami lagi. speed pun tak la laju sangat, 110 -120 je. dah hampir nak sampai sg dua, tiba tiba engin mati!!!! nasib baik lorry tanki tu sempat berhenti kalau tak, mati hangus! lepast u kami pun call helpline kenderan berhenti tengah jalan.... on the spot keesokan hari kami call proton di tanjung malim dan maki hamun kepada mereka...bapa kawan saya dah hantar lawyer untuk sue proton...skerg ni tunggu berita je.
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last time wen i bought my 1999 ex850 kancil less than 1 month sudah lari 130 km/h injin x terkejut pon
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proton cvt got many probs especially saga flx
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QUOTE(Augus7 @ May 16 2012, 01:27 PM)
haha that saga flx problem, even saga blm has it. experienced the engine suddenly died before
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read about engine shutdown some time ago cos dat time worry about the engine Tak tak sound (from IAFM issue), that's why the 2009 BLM in the house, even not CVT or FL version already sold fast fast earlier this year.. laugh.gif
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my fren juz told me he drove 180km/h using his flx, but he got use SAT...if no SAT lampu CVT sure menyala, he kena b4
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QUOTE(ashcrimson @ May 16 2012, 01:26 PM)
tak bole ke proton tu forwardkan pernyataan dia ke JPJ/polis?

150 km/j bukan laju aje, membahayakan orang lain jugak tuh. kalau pengadu tu perempuan lagi la... doh.gif
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kat highway bro.proton jual kereta tu RM 60k orang beli.dan bayar.bank kata ok 9 tahun installment+RM 600 sebulan ok orang bayar.ok kerajaan kata nak lesen dan kereta mesti ada insuran.ok fine bayar jugak.

salah ke bwk 150km/h kat atas jalan raya? tu hak orang tu.orang tu beli kereta tu.dan dia MEMBAYAR vmad.gif

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 01:29 PM)
buy manual liao

proton cvt got many probs especially saga flx
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my big bro said his wifu cousin working in a used car shop(innm) said many pipu come and sell back them saga flx.
he said buy persona better, and he bought one. but i dunno lol

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Wah, really feel sorry for them.

Looks like MyVi isn't such a bad choice after all.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ May 16 2012, 01:31 PM)
read about engine shutdown some time ago cos dat time worry about the engine Tak tak sound (from IAFM issue), that's why the 2009 BLM in the house, even not CVT or FL version already sold fast fast earlier this year..  laugh.gif
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itu pasal Khazanah Nasional jual Proton.diorang dah tahu 100% isu ni.DRB Hicom masuk kesian.macam macam masalah.modal beli balik belum tentu dapat.
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QUOTE(olman @ May 16 2012, 01:29 PM)
last time wen i bought my 1999 ex850 kancil less than 1 month sudah lari 130 km/h injin x terkejut pon
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haha,,kancil 130km/h wanna die faster ah. lol
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QUOTE(khelben @ May 16 2012, 01:33 PM)
Wah, really feel sorry for them.

Looks like MyVi isn't such a bad choice after all.
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but myVi mcm overprice sad.gif
later i kena jilat ludah balik la cuz bash Myvi before sweat.gif

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my big bro said his wifu cousin working in a used car shop(innm) said many pipu come and sell back them saga flx.
he said buy persona better, and he bought one. but i dunno lol
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persona is a better choice, although there are issues with them, but still better than flx
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QUOTE(little_mozart @ May 16 2012, 01:29 PM)
ni pun power gak
sebelum ni,saya bercadang sama ada beli Myvi lagi best atau saga FLX.  masa tu belum buat sebarang keputusan..tapi akhirnya saya beli Myvi baru. tahu kah kenapa? Saga FLX hampir membunuh saya dan rakan saya semasa pejalanan pulang dari KL ke Sungai petani kedah! . masa tu, member saya baru je beli saga flx, kami ni rakan sekampung, dan bercadang untuk pulang ke kampung bersama sama. so bila dalam perjalanan ke ipoh, lampu CVT dah menyala, so kami pun berhenti di perhentian tol, chek chek, no problem, then kami pun start perjalanan kami lagi. speed pun tak la laju sangat, 110 -120 je. dah hampir nak sampai sg dua, tiba tiba engin mati!!!! nasib baik lorry tanki tu sempat berhenti kalau tak, mati hangus! lepast u kami pun call helpline kenderan berhenti  tengah jalan.... on the spot keesokan hari kami call proton di tanjung malim dan maki hamun kepada mereka...bapa kawan saya dah hantar lawyer untuk sue proton...skerg ni tunggu berita je.
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kesian, proton saga buat masalah, pekerja dia kena maki hamun huhuw doh.gif
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QUOTE(Manager66 @ May 16 2012, 01:34 PM)
haha,,kancil 130km/h wanna die faster ah. lol
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lol, i know but i was travelling from perak to selangor

and i was asleep, fren was driving it, he reported it to me that he trash me new kancil. mad.gif
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 01:35 PM)
persona is a better choice, although there are issues with them, but still better than flx
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kereta Proton ni better beli Cash and Carry je bro.kalau hutang pun make sure dalam masa yang singkat.
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 01:35 PM)
persona is a better choice, although there are issues with them, but still better than flx
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elegance not using CVT right?

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please dont buy myvi

I saw a myvi terbakar in mrr2, near to the perodua sc

no idea what's the problem
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Lol recently happened to my relative... Blm 09 auto. Engine died can't start also. Sigh.... Proton has taken everyone for a ride ...yahoo



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QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 01:36 PM)
please dont buy myvi

I saw a myvi terbakar in mrr2, near to the perodua sc

no idea what's the problem
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so if saw proton or benz or bmw, toyota etc bakar also don't buy those?
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QUOTE(WebDpot @ May 16 2012, 01:36 PM)
kesian, proton saga buat masalah, pekerja dia kena maki hamun huhuw  doh.gif
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eh kejap aku nak tanya.kalau user saman Proton...tapi kereta tu dihasilkan ketika dibawah Khazanah Nasional.tapi sekarag Proton dibawah DRB hicom..so yang membayar saman tu Khazanah atau DRB hicom (old or new managment?)
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 16 2012, 01:36 PM)
kereta Proton ni better beli Cash and Carry je bro.kalau hutang pun make sure dalam masa yang singkat.
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kalau yang tak mampu tu 9 tahun la gamaknya...rofl

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waja cps ok ker ??? i'm worried
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So this CVT in saga will get hot fast and shutdown the engine? At 150kmh shut down is knida dangerous. At least warning or speed limit down before shut down.

Man, this saga car program to kill.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ May 16 2012, 01:37 PM)
so if saw proton or benz or bmw, toyota etc bakar also don't buy those?
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sometimes stok problem bro.mostly bussiness nowdays based on demand.they wont stok 1000pcs waiting 1 million people buy it.if 10 million people "tempah" that car so ONLY 10 million car been produce.
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Ni cerita lama lah....Proton dah rectify pastu recall owner flx first batch

Ada kena mengena dgn cvt pump apa benda entah
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QUOTE(ar188 @ May 16 2012, 01:37 PM)
so if saw proton or benz or bmw, toyota etc bakar also don't buy those?
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QUOTE(neo1point3 @ May 16 2012, 01:40 PM)
Ni cerita lama lah....Proton dah rectify pastu recall owner flx first batch

Ada kena mengena dgn cvt pump apa benda entah
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diorang tak test dulu ke sblm launch.
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waja cps ok ker ??? i'm worried
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one of the better engine of proton, before CFE
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 01:39 PM)
kalau yang tak mampu tu 9 tahun la gamaknya...rofl
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just let he see by himself.
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diorang tak test dulu ke sblm launch.
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 01:41 PM)
one of the better engine of proton, before CFE
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QUOTE(neo1point3 @ May 16 2012, 01:42 PM)
Proton test...boleh cayer kew?  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(imin @ May 16 2012, 01:41 PM)
diorang tak test dulu ke sblm launch.
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what car you driving? come I try to find see got pic of that car on fire?  laugh.gif
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Our 3rd car Viva EZ also quality like shit. Recently my dad keep complaining about the radio is dead and Proton people change it to the worse one.

What the f­uck.
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QUOTE(leymahn @ May 16 2012, 01:29 PM)
enjin mati terkejut sebab dapat pergi 150kmph?
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or another theory the car might have climaxed and spent all it's juice..


QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 01:36 PM)
please dont buy myvi

I saw a myvi terbakar in mrr2, near to the perodua sc

no idea what's the problem
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one myvi with a broken radiator doesn't mean all are like that..

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the engine and the new preve engine's is good. but their CVT is complete crap.
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 16 2012, 01:48 PM)
Our 3rd car Viva EZ also quality like shit. Recently my dad keep complaining about the radio is dead and Proton people change it to the worse one.

What the f­uck.
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radio dead ok

if engine dead sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ May 16 2012, 01:49 PM)
or another theory the car might have climaxed and spent all it's juice..
one myvi with a broken radiator doesn't mean all are like that..
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turtled myvi also doesnt mean all myvis will turtle

not
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 16 2012, 01:48 PM)
Our 3rd car Viva EZ also quality like shit. Recently my dad keep complaining about the radio is dead and Proton people change it to the worse one.

What the f­uck.
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 16 2012, 01:49 PM)
the engine and the new preve engine's is good. but their CVT is complete crap.
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Does the preve have the same problem too?
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damn this, im planning to buy saga flx 1.6 se later end this year o.0

better buy inspira one or two years later...at least i know that inspira is not beta test car, coming from lancer gt biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 01:50 PM)
turtled myvi also doesnt mean all myvis will turtle

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Does the preve have the same problem too?
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QUOTE(imin @ May 16 2012, 01:41 PM)
diorang tak test dulu ke sblm launch.
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test car proton pun agak cantik apa utk dibeli. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(old_and_slow @ May 16 2012, 01:50 PM)
1 unker neighbour bough viva, 1 month then sell back doh.gif
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Sincerely I pity those low-income that forced to buy Proton due to budget constrain.
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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ May 16 2012, 01:52 PM)
i never said they don't turtle. the way i see it, it's part of their charm..  biggrin.gif
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electronics nowadays...i can still recall that Lexus guy phone call to 911 until he crashed and killed whole family.

better stick to manual....

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 16 2012, 01:50 PM)
Does the preve have the same problem too?
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their CVT is super sluggish. Plus the stupid donno whose idea to disengage clucth when brake pedal is pressed. naek bukit is a hassle. Advantage of CVT is for smoothness and better FC, but the preve does not enjoy any FC benefits at all compared to 2.0 NA, in fact a bit higher.. donno wtf use CVT, use conventional 6 speed auto is better. And does not overheat like CVT does.

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 16 2012, 01:54 PM)
their CVT is super sluggish. Plus the stupid donno whose idea to disengage clucth when brake pedal is pressed. naek bukit is a hassle. Advantage of CVT is for smoothness and better FC, but the preve does not enjoy any FC benefits at all compared to 2.0 NA, in fact a bit higher.. donno wtf use CVT, use conventional 6 speed auto is better. And does not overheat like CVT does.
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that is why I'm wondering if they would come out with 1.6 cfe manual laugh.gif
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 01:56 PM)
that is why I'm wondering if they would come out with 1.6 cfe manual  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 01:56 PM)
that is why I'm wondering if they would come out with 1.6 cfe manual  laugh.gif
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Instant win!
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QUOTE(khelben @ May 16 2012, 01:57 PM)
Preve hatchback!
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 16 2012, 01:49 PM)
the engine and the new preve engine's is good. but their CVT is complete crap.
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acterly how we know the engine is good and reliable?

prince engine when come out also people say it's good engine.. but then.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 01:21 PM)
third grade mia CVT and you drive 150 km/h what for?
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QUOTE(amzek @ May 16 2012, 01:53 PM)
electronics nowadays...i can still recall that Lexus guy phone call to 911 until he crashed and killed whole family.

better stick to manual....
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you were saying ?
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A study by the Department of Transportation (DOT) concluded that electronic throttle systems were not at fault in reported cases of unintended acceleration by Toyota vehicles. The DOT used engineers from NASA to examine systems and software in nine Toyota vehicles where the owners of which experienced unintended acceleration.

Toyota's own investigations assigned blame to loose floormats and poorly manufactured gas pedal mechanisms, and issued recalls to fix these issues. Toyota also implemented systems in its vehicles that cut off acceleration when the brake is applied.

Congress asked the government to look into the reported incidents, and the DOT released its final report today. Investigators examined lines of code and even blasted the cars with electro-magnetic radiation to cause a failure. The report exonerated the electronics that govern the acceleration systems.

Reports of unintended acceleration reached the public after a fatal crash involving a Lexus ES 350. The DOT saw an increase in complaints about unintended acceleration in Toyota vehicles and began the study.

Toyota's study found that it had identified the problems correctly, and that there were no problems with the electronics. Even so, Toyota's reputation, and sales, took a hit in an already tough economic climate.

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QUOTE(ar188 @ May 16 2012, 02:01 PM)
acterly how we know the engine is good and reliable?

prince engine when come out also people say it's good engine.. but then..  laugh.gif
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oh my..prince engine is bad ar? haha.. actually when u put turbo on.. reliability always becomes an issue. Even the worst crap of the crap NA engine, compared to turbos.. haih..
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proton not for human use one.
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what car you driving? come I try to find see got pic of that car on fire?  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 16 2012, 02:06 PM)
oh my..prince engine is bad ar? haha.. actually when u put turbo on.. reliability always becomes an issue. Even the worst crap of the crap NA engine, compared to turbos.. haih..
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i dunno bad or not but got error messages wan..

but yeah looks like from forum feedback, the turbo prince 308 seems to be more problem than the non turbo one..
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QUOTE(77hunter @ May 16 2012, 02:03 PM)
That's the engine speed, campro IAFM, the issue with engine shut down of flx lies with the CVT2

Even if you can go up to the maximum speed, doesn't mean your transmission can handle the speed, hence the limiting factor of CVT
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 02:12 PM)
That's the engine speed, campro IAFM, the issue with engine shut down of flx lies with the CVT2

Even if you can go up to the maximum speed, doesn't mean your transmission can handle the speed, hence the limiting factor of CVT
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CVT on the preve so limited, now operating at 205nm, max is 215 lol..

operating almost 100% limit. tunggu masa je.
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 16 2012, 02:14 PM)
CVT on the preve so limited, now operating at 205nm, max is 215 lol..

operating almost 100% limit. tunggu masa je.
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yeah I knew proton CVT will be an issue for them, that's why when driving on the highway and saw any flx driving more than 120, move as far away as possible from that car

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QUOTE(ar188 @ May 16 2012, 02:04 PM)
you were saying ?
i m waiting for the day inspira 2L manual comes out.
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 16 2012, 02:14 PM)
CVT on the preve so limited, now operating at 205nm, max is 215 lol..

operating almost 100% limit. tunggu masa je.
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i heard they have the higher torque rated CVT.. but not chosen right? that should have given more design headroom for the gearbox to "breath" or last longer due to higher rating..

also recently i tot they show the engine manyak powerful on dyno? brows.gif
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 02:16 PM)
yeah I knew proton CVT will be an issue for them, that's why when driving on the highway and saw any flx driving more than 120, move as far away as possible from that car
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 02:16 PM)
yeah I knew proton CVT will be an issue for them, that's why when driving on the highway and saw any flx driving more than 120, move as far away as possible from that car
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 16 2012, 01:48 PM)
Our 3rd car Viva EZ also quality like shit. Recently my dad keep complaining about the radio is dead and Proton people change it to the worse one.

What the f­uck.
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looks legit
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QUOTE(sudustyle @ May 16 2012, 02:20 PM)
looks legit
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im using viva ez right now, never knew it came from proton. fark me.
anyway will be considering 2ndhand inspira 2.0 now rather than saga flx 1.6 se...maybe neeed to wait latter years then only buy.
with this...better than buying beta test car (saga flx) that known to give me headache one day later
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bodoh. xtau limit kreta sendiri, salahkan proton plak.
y don u try do u turn at 150kmh? if ur car turtle, is proton fault.
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and then a trailer came up from behind.
rest in peace.

less one car, less one driver.
eco friendly.
proton cares for the environment.
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I drive Toyota Dugong, was thinking to buy Preve also sad.gif
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QUOTE(RevolutionWorks @ May 16 2012, 02:34 PM)
I drive Toyota Dugong, was thinking to buy Preve also sad.gif
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go fast and furious
preve owner thread.

after reading, no mood to buy preve anymore one...
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ayam punya gf punya emak, beli BLM 2 -3 years old, FL few months old and FLX 1 month old, all no problem so far..

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QUOTE(Predator10 @ May 16 2012, 02:37 PM)
ayam punya gf punya emak, beli BLM 2 -3 years old, FL few months old and FLX 1 month old, all no problem so far..

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QUOTE(Predator10 @ May 16 2012, 02:37 PM)
ayam punya gf punya emak, beli BLM 2 -3 years old, FL few months old and FLX 1 month old, all no problem so far..

hmm.gif
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TS drove at 150kmh? WTH! i feel that the car feels like gonna fly at about 130kmh when my fren is driving...

luckily the car stopped u before something goes wrong! bravo PROTON for such awesome technology rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(duckaton @ May 16 2012, 02:35 PM)
go fast and furious
preve owner thread.

after reading, no mood to buy preve anymore one...
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acterly it's good that more people buy these cars, then they will understand why another 2000 people buy so called "kosong" but less hassle dugong every month..
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me kelisa 150km/h steady jer...
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this is govt way to control population..
more accident, more death, less human sad.gif
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no problem also reaching 200km/h on my flx se without the SAT , CVT light no on , engine no die anyone dun believe , come , i bring you all for a ride . 200km/h from kl to jb all the way no problem
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HAHAHA FUUU!!!
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i always think
why dont people buy foreign brand car?

suzuki alto only 40k something
suzuki swift only 60k something

way cheaper than some of proton model or perodua model

yes.its is smaller.weaker.smaller engine

but u wont be trouble by such weird yet dangerous problems
which might cause ur life

if have money,go buy bigger car.city or vios or civic
if poorfag,go for smaller car.alto,picanto

dont buy malaysian brand.
u know their problem.u know the risk
why take it?
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QUOTE(Number92 @ May 16 2012, 02:50 PM)
no problem also reaching 200km/h on my flx se without the SAT , CVT light no on , engine no die anyone dun believe , come , i bring you all for a ride . 200km/h from kl to jb all the way no problem
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QUOTE(Number92 @ May 16 2012, 03:50 PM)
no problem also reaching 200km/h on my flx se without the SAT , CVT light no on , engine no die anyone dun believe , come , i bring you all for a ride . 200km/h from kl to jb all the way no problem
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ajal belum sampai kot
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my persona already mati engin in middle of the road 2 kali dalam masa 3 tahun... kereta baru lagi too
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QUOTE(duckaton @ May 16 2012, 02:55 PM)
confirm not trolling, just stupid.
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DIET COKE PLEASE!!!
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Proton hanya mematikan kereta yang menyalahi undang-undang negara sepertimana bersih melakukan kesalahan tempoh hari
-menteri sumi bulu-
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pity you have poor driving skill
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i didnt know driving skill has anything to do with how fast a car can go.

btw notworthy.gif

however, believe me,
your life expectancy will be greatly reduced with your driving style.
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 16 2012, 02:38 PM)
eh kejap aku nak tanya.kalau user saman Proton...tapi kereta tu dihasilkan ketika dibawah Khazanah Nasional.tapi sekarag Proton dibawah DRB hicom..so yang membayar saman tu Khazanah atau DRB hicom (old or new managment?)
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QUOTE(duckaton @ May 16 2012, 03:05 PM)
i didnt know driving skill has anything to do with how fast a car can go.

btw  notworthy.gif

however, believe me,
your life expectancy will be greatly reduced with your driving style.
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QUOTE(Number92 @ May 16 2012, 03:09 PM)
thanks , tired of living in this world already anyway
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hmm.. must be isolated cases. but they still need to check.
i drive flx also, 1st batch. i've also changed the cvt pump as suggested
'for improvement' they said.

as for how hard i've drive it, my most abusive was more than 160 at plus highway from malacca till senawang.. top 180. i've maintained high speed till drop 1 bar fuel and i slow down.

no warning lights etc. the only difference is once i reach home, slow speed got loud whistling sound..

till now i've nvr hv a problem with my flx's engine or cvt

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kesian beli proton mcm beli masalah jer.
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QUOTE(ricebowl @ May 16 2012, 03:17 PM)
kesian beli proton mcm beli masalah jer.
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 03:21 PM)
beli forte beli masalah jugak
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kenapa awak bawak forte? ader masalah ke?
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post May 16 2012, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ May 16 2012, 03:14 PM)
hmm.. must be isolated cases. but they still need to check.
i drive flx also, 1st batch. i've also changed the cvt pump as suggested
'for improvement' they said.

as for how hard i've drive it, my most abusive was more than 160 at plus highway from malacca till senawang.. top 180. i've maintained high speed till drop 1 bar fuel and i slow down.

no warning lights etc. the only difference is once i reach home, slow speed got loud whistling sound..

till now i've nvr hv a problem with my flx's engine or cvt
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itu kapal terbang sukhoi terhempas pun isolated case jugak.

lol
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QUOTE(Number92 @ May 16 2012, 02:50 PM)
no problem also reaching 200km/h on my flx se without the SAT , CVT light no on , engine no die anyone dun believe , come , i bring you all for a ride . 200km/h from kl to jb all the way no problem
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Bro, u might wanna read this...
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2347932
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QUOTE(ricebowl @ May 16 2012, 03:22 PM)
kenapa awak bawak forte? ader masalah ke?
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bukan, ada orang tu nama dia palat botak, beli forte tapi tak mampu bayar so tukar myvi
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post May 16 2012, 03:25 PM

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first of all TS.. have u gone to the recall thingy??
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 04:24 PM)
bukan, ada orang tu nama dia palat botak, beli forte tapi tak mampu bayar so tukar myvi
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lololololol
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ May 16 2012, 03:24 PM)
bukan, ada orang tu nama dia palat botak, beli forte tapi tak mampu bayar so tukar myvi
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siapa palat botak tuh? proton nie memang banyak masalah kereta cikai
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QUOTE(duckaton @ May 16 2012, 03:22 PM)
itu kapal terbang sukhoi terhempas pun isolated case jugak.
lol
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considered isolated if not majority of it having the same problem
but for prevention they should check..

if this is a major problem, proton will already stop selling flx until this problem is rectified and solved

QUOTE(hitsugayat10 @ May 16 2012, 03:23 PM)
Bro, u might wanna read this...
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2347932
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driving fast needs more concentration and good judgement.
speeding more than allowed is illegal but most people still do it
be it at 60kmh limit or 110kmh limit.

what makes driving fast dangerous is when u met a slow moving car and it's too late to brake safely
unless u know to control car at high speed which none will unable to
dont endanger other people's life

tailgating is as serious as speeding too
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Kesian proton users...hantar service centre for servicing kene cut throat..hantar bengkel luar void warranty..car got problem SC will kaw-kaw try to fix before asking them to wait for parts and not simply replace it even though still in warranty...hasiihhss..
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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ May 16 2012, 03:29 PM)
considered isolated if not majority of it having the same problem
but for prevention they should check..

if this is a major problem, proton will already stop selling flx until this problem is rectified and solved
driving fast needs more concentration and good judgement.
speeding more than allowed is illegal but most people still do it
be it at 60kmh limit or 110kmh limit.

what makes driving fast dangerous is when u met a slow moving car and it's too late to brake safely
unless u know to control car at high speed which none will unable to
dont endanger other people's life

tailgating is as serious as speeding too
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Agree. Most of the ppl think they r very good at handling their machines, tis is the root of the problem..
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proton and perodua SC all want to cut your throat

heard honda and toyota also
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post May 16 2012, 03:42 PM

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i think all hv terms & condition for warranty -> service at their service centre.. and they will charge labor which u won't at any outside workshop

the only difference is, proton and perodua profit ratio might be small, so the dealer/service centre will think twice to get it change

while for luxury car dealer, they hv huge profit for each unit, and their parts also not cheap and will take some time to get in malaysia if they hv no stock

not to mention proton/perodua cars on road is way more than others.. so service centre always hv lot's of car at bay for service compared to other makes

higher earner knows how to appreciate a man's work, and they hv another car or driver, so they'll wait
while we middle to low income people always push for value for money (cheap, fast, good)

This post has been edited by huzaifa136: May 16 2012, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(Predator10 @ May 16 2012, 02:37 PM)
ayam punya gf punya emak, beli BLM 2 -3 years old, FL few months old and FLX 1 month old, all no problem so far..

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post May 16 2012, 03:51 PM

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pls la. proton make so many cars per seconds, where got time to check all the parts?
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buy 1.3 saga and pecut 150k
like ask babi to run like kuda
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buatan malaysia mahhh... top speed and cornering very nice to bully buatan malaysia car especially Perodua haha
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Kete 1.3 tp bwk 150km/h.. Safety first pls..
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QUOTE(moonarcana @ May 16 2012, 03:09 PM)
selagi proton tu tak bungkus..proton kene tanggung..kalu DRB hicom ambil alih..DRB hicom kene tanggung
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so old management already know about this is it? tongue.gif
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look like buy proton car = gamble.

good luck = not problem
bad luck = time bomb

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