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post May 16 2012, 02:14 AM


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For the self-interests of their cronies, they arm-twisted to take over Kuok’s Sugar Empire, cronies get rich by 1 billion or so, but it causing huge losses of more than 20 billion each year to the country!”

Recently, BN government has offended Robert Kuok, Malaysian economy suffered a great blow consequently!

After the official visit of Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao to Malaysia, Najib government now is truly understood Robert Kuok’s personal influence on China!

In order to benefit their cronies, they arm-twisted to swallow Robert Kuok’s sugar empire. The cronies get richer by 1 billion or so, but it causing losses of more than 20 billion to the country!

Those who have accessed to insider news can only curse to core and pull out his/her hairs!

Malaysia sugar king was forced to leave Malaysia, but became the world’s sugar king! He bought the world’s largest sugar mills in Australia, invested USD 10 billion in the sugar farm in Indonesia with the goal of developing it to the world’s largest sugar refining producer, living up to the name of the world’s sugar king.

On the other hand, Malaysia government enriched its cronies at the expense of national interests. For those who have insider news, Kuok offered tremendous help to the Malaysian government in the past few decades, he has done everything possible; but what the government did was like what you will get when you turn over a pig stomach: faeces.

In other words, Najib Government is UNGRATEFUL!

In the “Confidential” news, it is about the Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao’s visit to Malaysia recently, it hit a snag with Najib.

Prior to Premier Wen Jiabao’s visit to Malaysia, Najib and his cabinet on more than one occasion, hinted that he hoped China will double the amount of palm oil import from Malaysia.

We all know that China is the largest consumer of palm oil from Malaysia. Rapid economic growth in the recent years, China became the largest palm oil market for Malaysia, but Malaysia has also facing a strong competition from Indonesia, trying to sell its palm oil at lower prices to China and India, which will diluting Malaysian market share.

This threat is a great concern for Najib.

Najib hoped to sign a new palm oil trading contracts with Premier Wen Jiabao in order to more than double the average 10 million tonnes monthly export to China. But Wen Jiabao came to a Malaysia, Najib was told that this request is unlikely to be fulfilled. It was an utter disappointment.

Najib knows the Chinese market demand, import one million tonnes of palm oil per month is still not a constraint for China.

So, what is the problem? The problem is Sugar King, Kuok does not agree!

Why the Sugar Kuok is able to influence China’s decision to buy Malaysian palm oil?

The China cooking oil market is monopolized by who? The China cooking oil market leader is “Arowana” brand cooking oil, accounting for nearly 40% of its market share! The Arowana cooking oil boss, is Robert Kuok!

Think about it, if Premier Wen Jiabao on behalf of the Chinese government buys the Malaysian palm oil. Who is going to refine it into cooking oil? Of course, it is the private enterprises! With its 40% market share, if Arowana cooking oil company refuses to buy more, how the Chinese government is going to absorb the extra import volume?

Najib was insensible from the start, and did not know Kuok had such a big influence in China. He had helped cronies, forced Robert Kuok to give up the Malaysian sugar king throne, and didn’t expect to have such quick retribution.

Kuok was forced to pack and leave Malaysia, his heart is of course very unhappy. People of Malaysia must know that during the early days of independence, we did not have aviation talent pool, Alliance government requested Kuok’s father to help set up Malayan Airways.

In 1970 Malaysian maritime shipping industry is also in vacuum, Malaysian government sent representatives to Hong Kong to personally invite Kuok for assistance. For the national development sake, Kuok put aside his Group business, came back to Malaysia to assist Government in establishing a national maritime shipping industry, this later renamed to MALAYSIA INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING CORPORATION, MISC in short.

Robert Kuok gave his hand when Malaysia repeatedly faced the economic difficulties in Mahathir era. Even in MCA Tan Koon Swan’s case, it was Robert Kuok who paid the bail! Malaysia’s successive governments, from the National Front to BN, owed Robert Kuok a lot. But Malaysian Government was ungrateful, using the high-handed trick and no sugar price rise excuse to forcefully take over Kuok’s sugar empire in Malaysia.

This is not ungrateful?

Deng Xiaoping made a comeback in the 70s, announced China’s reform and needed most generous help of overseas Chinese entrepreneurs; Robert was first to take actions to help Deng. Among the other entrepreneurs of Chinese economic miracle are Henry Fok and Li Ka-shing Hong Kong. Malaysian entrepreneur Robert Kuok is the first to response to Deng Xiaoping’s appeal and built the China’s first five-star hotel, Shangri-La in Beijing.

With over 30 years of close-knit relationship with the Chinese government and its top leadership, Kuok has great influence on them. Najib failed to recognize that. This is why the quote at the top of this post : “For the interests of their cronies, they arm twisted to take over Kuok’s Sugar Empire, cronies get rich by 1 billion or so, but it causing huge losses of more than 20 billion each year to the country!”

Kuok’s sugar empire was eaten up by the fat vampire’s family abruptly. Imagine, a world renowned international trade business personality, what humiliation he received in return for his single-minded help all this while for his own country & government? And Najib would never think that the consequences of offending the Sugar King will be so serious.

Right after Sugar King left Malaysia, he immediately announced the acquisition of Australia’s biggest sugar mill. This is the world leading supplier of raw material for sugar manufacturing. Of course, this includes supplying to the family of the fat vampire woman’s sugar factory in Perlis.

In early this year, Kuok announced plans to invest USD 10 billion in Indonesia for the development of the world’s largest sugar cane plantation, as well as building a state-of-the-art sugar refinery mill.

In the midst of world economy was facing a downturn and Malaysian government traveled around the world to solicit investment. How much was Malaysia’s foreign investment? Kuok’s single investment in Indonesia alone is already USD 10 billion dollars!

Don’t you want to screw the first couple?

At the moment, China’s palm oil contracts sealed with Malaysia is remaining unchanged under the agreeable terms. There won’t be any increase in volume. Indonesia has more palm oil output than Malaysia. It is cheaper too. Now that Kuok had invested so much money in Indonesia, the Government of Indonesia would have treated him as their God of Wealth. Certainly, open to negotiate anything with him. Moreover, Indonesia has been eyeing to take over the China palm oil contract from Malaysia.

The CONSOLATION price China offers to Malaysia for not increasing the purchase of palm oil was importing frozen durian.

Do the Chinese people have the habit of eating durian? How much time and efforts are needed to market frozen durian from Malaysia? Thai durian may not selling well in China, let alone Malaysia frozen durian?

Business is business, who would supply millions of dollars’ worth of frozen durian into an untapped new market with no durian consumption culture? Should the Chinese people become non-receptive of it, how do we deal with return goods? A total failure of investment might happen. Is this how to do business?

In earlier this year, when the news hit the papers that Kuok made an announcement to invest USD 10 billion in Indonesia, many criticized Kuok for being unpatriotic, preferring to inject so much money into Indonesia instead of Malaysian.

What A CRAP!

You arm-twisted him to take over his empire, forcing the man to leave Malaysia in broken heart & humiliation; now that the man ignores the Malaysian market, and you criticize him?

He channeled his huge investment to Australia & Indonesia instead of Malaysia, who is to be blamed?

Coincidentally, Kuok is not just the renowned China hotelier, king of cooking oil, the world’s sugar King; he is also the franchisee of the Coca-cola soft drink brand in the Chinese market. Kuok is involved in a diversity of businesses in China. He created many job opportunities for China. The Chinese central government and leaders have great respect for him as an entrepreneur. When the man speaks, the weight it carries can be far-reaching.

So far, Kuok is the only Malaysian tycoon who never accepted any of the royal titles conferred for those outstanding Malaysians.

Many people address him as “Tan Sri Robert Kuok,” in actual fact, he does not have it, he doesn’t need them too. To put the record straight, he is neither Tan Sri nor Dato.
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post May 16 2012, 02:19 AM


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old news. shit happened. robert kuok left. cronies gain. malaysia lost. nobody can reverse this.
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with US europe shrinking...china will be the next superpower..no need for me to say who will be very important in future....

think wisely rakyat...
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post May 16 2012, 02:27 AM


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propaganda ~ i think robert kuok saw a chance in australia and moved there to retire
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tl;dr anyways.
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post May 16 2012, 02:38 AM


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Doesn't he live in HK?

Man, these Chinese newspapers. And people say Utusan is bad.
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post May 16 2012, 02:46 AM


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itt people choose which crony is his or her favourite
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post May 16 2012, 02:46 AM


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QUOTE(jay @ May 16 2012, 02:27 AM)
propaganda ~ i think robert kuok saw a chance in australia and moved there to retire
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Yes, whatever it is. He's decision of leaving is still a loss to Malaysia.
Not only this, there's a few of chinese business man being force out cuz the government trying to take over.
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post May 16 2012, 02:51 AM


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always say balik cina balik cina la.....see what happened? brows.gif
lu langsi lu mati... whistling.gif
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post May 16 2012, 02:51 AM


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QUOTE(katnl @ May 16 2012, 02:38 AM)
Doesn't he live in HK?

Man, these Chinese newspapers. And people say Utusan is bad.
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he lives in hongkong nod.gif
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post May 16 2012, 02:55 AM


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QUOTE(jaymansion @ May 16 2012, 02:51 AM)
always say balik cina balik cina la.....see what happened? brows.gif
lu langsi lu mati... whistling.gif
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No need to say lu lang si lu mati la. We just have to work together to make things change for us.
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post May 16 2012, 02:56 AM


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he lives in hongkong nod.gif
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And building a Shangrila in Beijing to support Deng? He built 2 actually, in Singapore and HongKong when it was a British colony.

Where the heck is this article from? The Rocket?
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QUOTE(Nub! @ May 16 2012, 02:55 AM)
No need to say lu lang si lu mati la. We just have to work together to make things change for us.
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actually who started this lu langsi lu mati thing?sounds not right to me...is lansi not langsi.... doh.gif
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lu lang si,
in hokkien means you people die.
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QUOTE(Nub! @ May 16 2012, 02:57 AM)
lu lang si,
in hokkien means you people die.
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oh....no wonder la....okok got it...thanks nod.gif
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post May 16 2012, 03:01 AM


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Not only Robert Kuok....many other great business people got kicked out in favour of cronies...and some of these people build the company from scratch...only to get spit in the face by cronies...
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QUOTE(LamboSama @ May 16 2012, 03:01 AM)
Not only Robert Kuok....many other great business people got kicked out in favour of cronies...and some of these people build the company from scratch...only to get spit in the face by cronies...
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agree with you! vmad.gif
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post May 16 2012, 03:08 AM


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Robert Kuok also crony, kena sacked seek revenge. Pffft~
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QUOTE(MsGaijin @ May 16 2012, 03:08 AM)
Robert Kuok also crony, kena sacked seek revenge. Pffft~
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QUOTE(MsGaijin @ May 16 2012, 03:08 AM)
Robert Kuok also crony, kena sacked seek revenge. Pffft~
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doh.gif

rich doesn't mean crony

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just look at such small thing like kfc and pizza hut.
eat and spit.
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Because of this thread I watched a CCTV2 interview with Robert Kuok for 1 hour on YouTube. And my god, I shed manly tears! Bloody baaaawww story.
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Isn't this from last year or something? Well whatever suits you guys.
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QUOTE(MsGaijin @ May 16 2012, 03:08 AM)
Robert Kuok also crony, kena sacked seek revenge. Pffft~
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successful crony don't mind...biggrin.gif...
it's the all take...no gip...no success crony cannot accept...tongue.gif
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there's difference between cronies that make money and supply it to gomen and cronies that only leech money off govt
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QUOTE(jaymansion @ May 16 2012, 03:09 AM)
doh.gif

rich doesn't mean crony
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suddenly rich like billions doesnt mean crony.

go eat shit la. doh.gif
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QUOTE(JeggaSimple @ May 15 2012, 04:46 PM)
suddenly rich like billions doesnt mean crony.

go eat shit la.  doh.gif
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QUOTE(Muhammad Nur Hanief @ May 16 2012, 06:47 AM)
Antara crony berjaya
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gua baca komen, bnyk lasis komen tu
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if 'those ppl' tat govern tis country knows how to do business, it would be a miricle just like a female pig can climb tree...
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yet Malaysia is able to sell their palm oil at 33% premium compared to Indonesia. Lol. And none of our palm oil companies cant sell palm oil.

Even if they buy from Indon, oops, indon palm oil plantation also owned by malaysia.

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Just like on proverb saying that if you are good in business you can sell Ice to the Eskimos.
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at least Ah Jib's Crony got 1 Bil, like he cares about the 20 Million malaysian Tax dollar lost...

It's about how much he can songlap before caught while they can.... that is their KPI
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Robert kuok oso kroni la dumbass. he's got well known konekshun to.mahathir. now mahathir nak mampus kuok oso becum robert kiok. stop racing2 la. u think umno kroni bumi onli meh? look at tony and ananda krish.

Only 2 race according those umno f***tards: umno and others.


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difference is..robert don't need to use citizen's money for his success....btw, his kuok foundation helped alot of needy people in the country.

so what has the other BS cronies done?.

TAKE, and TAKE MORE.

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QUOTE(kokokranc @ May 16 2012, 08:08 AM)
Robert kuok oso kroni la dumbass. he's got well known konekshun to.mahathir. now mahathir nak mampus kuok oso becum robert kiok. stop racing2 la. u think umno kroni bumi onli meh? look at tony and ananda krish.

Only 2 race according those umno f***tards: umno and others.
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exactly. vincent tan was also one of mahathirs anak angkat too
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QUOTE(MsGaijin @ May 16 2012, 03:08 AM)
Robert Kuok also crony, kena sacked seek revenge. Pffft~
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he is a chinese, and a big crony. but racist ppl dont see that.
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he is a chinese, and a big crony. but racist ppl dont see that.
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Kuok, Yeoh, Vincent Tan, Ananda semua kroni besar Tun M
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And then all of a sudden, "oh he's a crony, but he's okay" loooooll
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Wow when my fren told me I thought it was some imaginary story. But seems legit now
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QUOTE(finkl1 @ May 16 2012, 08:12 AM)
difference is..robert don't need to use citizen's money for his success....btw, his kuok foundation helped alot of needy people in the country.

so what has the other BS cronies done?.

TAKE, and TAKE MORE.
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dude, you on weed on something? Those basta*rds up there including Syed, Robert, Ananda all cronies la.
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any crony meleis that got kicked out? i mean at least crony that same level like robert kuok
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QUOTE(LamboSama @ May 16 2012, 03:01 AM)
Not only Robert Kuok....many other great business people got kicked out in favour of cronies...and some of these people build the company from scratch...only to get spit in the face by cronies...
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well the latest i see is sp setia
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tl;dr anyways.
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QUOTE(zeus2005 @ May 16 2012, 08:46 AM)
any crony meleis that got kicked out? i mean at least crony that same level like robert kuok
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itu dulu kamcing dengan mahadir la....krony is krony

no need support krony
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QUOTE(sudustyle @ May 16 2012, 08:54 AM)
itu dulu kamcing dengan mahadir la....krony is krony

no need support krony
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U know how many time sugar price increase after syed take over?
How many time rk in charge?

Krony is those who eat, shit but produce nothing type.

Every successful businessman have their connection with gov but doesn't means they are Krony, they make it with their own.


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QUOTE(zeus2005 @ May 16 2012, 08:46 AM)
any crony meleis that got kicked out? i mean at least crony that same level like robert kuok
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Kicked out where? Indon ? lol.. How about Daim Zainuddin? Wasn't he kicked out?
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malaysian are very ungrateful ppl

Naza super rich man but very kind hearted, gomen give him so many AP, he use AP bring in so many lamborghini, ferarri,give malaysian a chance to see for free like motorshow and he no charge you all money oh. You see weekend so many go see at his show room.

Ananda, he give you astro and maxis, without it we have no satelite TV and no mobilephone

bukari, he give us rice to eat everyday and sugar for us to enjois otherwise our kopi o becum kopi kosong.

Let us vote Beend, so they continue to let us enjois all this thing.

You see Anwar, what he give us?

free wifi, free water, free tol, puuuuuuiiiii, these are bad things.
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There are lots of different cronies. New cronies eat old cronies. Its a cycle.
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QUOTE(kokokranc @ May 16 2012, 08:08 AM)
Robert kuok oso kroni la dumbass. he's got well known konekshun to.mahathir. now mahathir nak mampus kuok oso becum robert kiok. stop racing2 la. u think umno kroni bumi onli meh? look at tony and ananda krish.

Only 2 race according those umno f***tards: umno and others.
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There are lots of different cronies. New cronies eat old cronies. Its a cycle.
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even PR oso got crony
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QUOTE(kokokranc @ May 16 2012, 08:08 AM)
Robert kuok oso kroni la dumbass. he's got well known konekshun to.mahathir. now mahathir nak mampus kuok oso becum robert kiok. stop racing2 la. u think umno kroni bumi onli meh? look at tony and ananda krish.

Only 2 race according those umno f***tards: umno and others.
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genting.. fuh itu crony mahadey tahap dewa 100 petala langit. mahadey very sly one, both rich now..
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 16 2012, 09:11 AM)
malaysian are very ungrateful ppl

Naza super rich man but very kind hearted, gomen give him so many AP, he use AP bring in so many lamborghini, ferarri,give malaysian a chance to see for free like motorshow and he no charge you all money oh. You see weekend so many go see at his show room.

Ananda, he give you astro and maxis, without it we have no satelite TV and no mobilephone

bukari, he give us rice to eat everyday and sugar for us to enjois otherwise our kopi o becum kopi kosong.

Let us vote Beend, so they continue to let us enjois all this thing.

You see Anwar, what he give us?

free wifi, free water, free tol, puuuuuuiiiii, these are bad things.
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BN gomen being a jerk again.
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Not only Robert Kuok....many other great business people got kicked out in favour of cronies...and some of these people build the company from scratch...only to get spit in the face by cronies...
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malaysian are very ungrateful ppl

Naza super rich man but very kind hearted, gomen give him so many AP, he use AP bring in so many lamborghini, ferarri,give malaysian a chance to see for free like motorshow and he no charge you all money oh. You see weekend so many go see at his show room.

Ananda, he give you astro and maxis, without it we have no satelite TV and no mobilephone

bukari, he give us rice to eat everyday and sugar for us to enjois otherwise our kopi o becum kopi kosong.

Let us vote Beend, so they continue to let us enjois all this thing.

You see Anwar, what he give us?

free wifi, free water, free tol, puuuuuuiiiii, these are bad things.
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moorish.....hmmm sounds like moron laugh.gif
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Because of this thread I watched a CCTV2 interview with Robert Kuok for 1 hour on YouTube. And my god, I shed manly tears! Bloody baaaawww story.
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bagaimana ??
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this article pasted long time ago
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please continue to say cina balik china.
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Yes, whatever it is. He's decision of leaving is still a loss to Malaysia.
Not only this, there's a few of chinese business man being force out cuz the government trying to take over.
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Robert returned China n help Chinese there liao
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cina tolong cina, what's new?
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padan muka crony.... robert kuok? ananda? sama je....


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Next on the list is Public Bank... cronies kenot tahan non-bumi companies making more profit from hard work!
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once teh hong piao certified, PBB will become next maybank....
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Forgive me if this is slowpoke

Robert kuok
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is it possible that robert kuok decided himself to leave malaysia market and use the sale from the proceeds to invest on something better?
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Actually, the article itself is just a blog post by yet another uninformed rakyat haha. Mau main politik konon
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well the latest i see is sp setia
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LOL...

is better to find out more details on the history and what is happen previously... smile.gif
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Dude, understand which crony is good and who is bad. Don't use your 2" brain think 1 lumsum all bad.
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how to define good crony?
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is it possible that robert kuok decided himself to leave malaysia market and use the sale from the proceeds to invest on something better?
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Possible, but judging from the man's character, its unlikely...but again, i dont know him, so its possible
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ask them go dai la. Top 10 richest see chinese how much 1st. zz..
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for him leaving Malaysia is all about business la.
i don't think he would stay even if BN do everything to keep him stay.
it's just better that a Malaysian buy his sugar company than letting him sell it to foreigners.
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kuok is a businessman...and a shrewed one at that...

he has a monopoly on the shipping of palm oil into china. anyone has a contract to supply palm oil to china will still have to get the transport via him. so indirectly and directly, he is the palm oil king of china now.

as for his sugar business in malaysia, he sold his shares at a huge profit. and he possibly used those proceeds to get into other sugar markets. at the end of it, all are just business to him. he will make money out of every deal he makes.

and stupid people will keep on making stupid conclusions.
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Pakatan politicians must be getting desperate in having to spread lies to try and get elected. They hope that by telling fairy tales and falsely accusing BN, people will vote for them and go against BN. They should be ashamed of themselves. They are only insulting the intelligence of ordinary Malaysians.

We do not have to be on anyone’s side except to be on the side of truth and honesty. Malaysians want to know the truth, good or bad, about political leaders, whether in BN or Pakatan. We do not want to hear more lies. The article about Robert Kuok and the Malaysian government is more of such lies at election time. It had been passed around by email before, but now it is going round again, hoping people will believe it.

The article contains so many lies that it will take a lot of space to list them all and show them to be untrue. The factual points mentioned below are just 10 of them. The facts expose the claims made in the article as rubbish. These facts are in various public records, and anyone spending some time to check the details can obtain them too. Facts don’t take sides, they just reveal the truth.

1. The article says the UMNO-led government asked Robert Kuok’s father to help set up Malaysia Airlines, and was ungrateful to him afterwards. How could that happen? British businessmen had incorporated Malayan Airways Limited in Singapore in 1937, involving the Ocean Steamship Company of Liverpool, England, the Straits Steamship Company and Imperial Airways. The first commercial flight came later only in 1947. Technical assistance came from airlines of Commonwealth countries, such as BOAC and Qantas Imperial Airways. Robert Kuok’s father died in 1948. He was a commodities trader from Fujian province in China, not an aviation expert. Only in 1957 did the airline become a government-owned company. Malaya became independent (Merdeka) only in that year!

2. The article also claims that Robert Kuok became so fed up with PM Najib’s BN government that “he was forced to leave his own country, etc.” Again, more fairy stories. Robert Kuok first invested in property in Hong Kong in 1977, and with growing businesses there and on the mainland (China), it made sense for him to be based there. His main office has been in Hong Kong for many years. Previously he was based in Kuala Lumpur, then London, and then Singapore. Here in Malaysia, Najib became Prime Minister only in 2009. It is nonsense to say because of PM Najib, Kuok became “fed up” with Malaysia and left.

3. The article further claims that Robert Kuok is “the world’s sugar emperor.” What? Robert Kuok owned the biggest sugar interests in Malaysia but not in the world. His businesses are highly diversified, including property, construction, publishing, shipping, hotels, palm oil, rice, beverages, chemicals, cinemas, etc. Most of the world’s sugar interests are owned by other people and had always been owned by others.

4. The article falsely claims that if only Najib had asked nicely, it would be no problem for China to increase its import of Malaysian palm oil by 1 million tonnes a day. Any sane or honest business person, trader or economist will know such a claim is nonsense. If as the article says China is already importing 10 million tonnes of palm oil from Malaysia each month, this comes to an average of 333,000 tonnes a day. No country can suddenly expand such imports to 1 million tonnes a day as the article says, as this would be a tripling (additional increase of 200%) when the market demand is not enough to take up this volume. Also, edible oils cannot be stockpiled/stored for long before being consumed.

5. The article also says the Malaysian government asked for Robert Kuok’s help to develop the shipping industry in the 1970s, which later resulted in the Malaysian International Shipping Corporation (MISC). Again, false. MISC had already been established in 1968. Robert Kuok did not need to be asked by any government to start a shipping line. He started shipping operations on his own to provide transport for his sugar and other businesses because his international investments involved a lot of sea freight.

6. The article also says that Indonesian palm oil producers are now doing better than Malaysian ones. False. Although Indonesia and Malaysia together produce about 90% of the world’s palm oil, more palm oil is produced in Indonesia than Malaysia only BECAUSE of the huge investments in oil palm cultivation there by Malaysian companies. HALF of Indonesia’s oil palm plantations are Malaysian-owned, by more than 50 Malaysian companies such as Kuala Lumpur Kepong Bhd, Sime Darby, United Plantations Bhd, Asiatic Development Bhd, IJM Plantations Bhd and IOI Corp Bhd. This, together with oil palm plantations in Malaysia, makes Malaysians and Malaysian companies still the largest oil palm producers in the world.

7. The article falsely accuses the Malaysian government of “stealing” Robert Kuok’s sugar business, which then resulted in the loss of uncountable billions. False again. In 2009 Robert Kuok’s Perlis Plantations Bhd decided to sell its sugar interests and related land to FELDA for RM1.29 billion. (That’s a total of less than RM2 billion for the two related businesses.) So, no such thing as “tens of billions” or a so-called “national loss of hundreds of billions.” There was no “arm-twisting” either. Although the sum was just over one billion ringgit, it still meant profits for PPB. (Refer to Bursa Malaysia records, etc.)

8. The article tells lies again in saying that the Beijing Shangrila Hotel built by Robert Kuok in 1987 is the first five-star hotel in China. Not so. Others before it, which continue to operate as five-star luxury hotels today, include the Shanghai Peace Hotel from 1929 used by Charlie Chaplin, George Bernard Shaw and other VIPs, the Raffles Beijing (the former Peking Hotel) around the same time used by Chairman Mao and others at official functions, and the White Swan Hotel in Guangzhou since 1983, used by dozens of international VIPs including Queen Elizabeth just to name a few. There are also 5-star hotels in Hong Kong and Macao, which are part of China, before Kuok’s Beijing Shangrila, such as Hong Kong’s Peninsula Hotel (since 1928).

9. The governments of China and Malaysia have been on good terms for many years. Robert Kuok himself has personally been on good terms with all governments in countries where he does business. Senior Chinese and Malaysian leaders deal directly with one another without going through third parties like private businessmen, however influential the latter may be. National leaders have political reasons for dealing with one another, not personal ones. Robert Kuok has been very influential, he may even be the most politically influential foreign businessman in China, but he knows better than to become an obstacle in official diplomatic relations between two countries. He is smarter than some people who would risk making enemies today or tomorrow simply out of spite or ego reasons.

10. Robert Kuok has been described as shy, choosing not to draw attention to himself in the media or internationally. Like fellow Malaysian billionaire T. Ananda Krishnan, he is modest and avoids unnecessary public attention. They have also been awarded and have accepted the Tan Sri title, although they often do not use it. This is the same with some others with the Datuk/Dato’ title, unlike some who use their royal titles everywhere. Tan Sri Robert Kuok and Tan Sri Ananda Krishnan do not seek to gain anything through their titles, which they have. It is therefore false of the article to say that they had refused the title from the Agung/King.

In July last year there was also a rumour that Robert Kuok was the mysterious billionaire who had spent US$4.8 billion on a solid gold yacht. Of course, that was soon revealed as false. How could such a heavy yacht even float? But at least that rumour was not making use of the man and his name for political reasons. The article this time about Robert Kuok and the Malaysian government is different, since it is cunningly making false accusations in trying to win support for the opposition.

Robert Kuok will be 89 years old this October, and his father had died a long time ago. Have some respect for them. Do not drag the family through the opposition’s cheap election campaign tricks. If Pakatan politicians are so desperate to get elected, they should do good things for the people and the country. But if they cannot say anything that is good and true about themselves, they should not say bad things that are untrue about other people.

From their lies that falsely accuse others, we can see that these Pakatan politicians do not deserve any support. We are not so dumb as to believe their tall tales, however much they may want our votes. What they do is shameful and sinful. Right now they are telling more and bigger lies than BN. A Chinese leader once said: “Seek truth from facts.” What these opposition politicians are doing is “seek votes from lies.” For that alone they deserve to LOSE.

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"What A CRAP!

You arm-twisted him to take over his empire, forcing the man to leave Malaysia in broken heart & humiliation; now that the man ignores the Malaysian market, and you criticize him?"

This is what I call Karma. You mess with Chinese, we go back to China. And your pitiful country will rot day by day with the corruption from Islamic laws. Have Iran, Afghanistan and Libya did not set a good example for you to see?
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too long but i read finish it anyway.
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padan muka crony....  robert kuok? ananda? sama je....
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I can see most the Malays here really think it is good for him to leave and proud of Syed Mohtar becoming richer!!!

Why most of the Malays hate the Chinese so much ? I know you all have been brainwashed by BN media which make you think that Chinese race are greedy and are destroying this country.

The Orang Cina banyak berjasa untuk negara. They helped build this country and make this country rich !!! Why you not tak berkenang budi ? Be grateful lah!!!

Why until now the Malay think the chinese should leave? Remember how we gain our independent? Tunku Abdul Rahman have to united Malay, Indian and Chinese. Without these 3 races, Malaysia won't gain independent from Queen Elizabeth

The fact is Najib and the government forced Robert Kuok to leave and take over his business, and right now the sugar price went up!

People worked so hard built their business from scratch, why the Malay or Najib have to sabotage his successful business which benefit all the Rakyat, because they want to become rich also. He, his wife and his friends are one of Felda biggest shareholders. So when the sugar price went up, we are Rakyat paid for it, we paid them to become rich and become billionaire.


I am very sad to see more and more Chinese are leaving this country because they see less hope anymore :-( And the Malays don't give a damn, they are so Happy :-) :-)

Anyway, life is very unfair, let's deal with it. Like it or not

Why don't all Malay, Chinese and Indian get along in Malaysia ? Come on, any Malays would like to give me an answer ?
Why can't we like other country where you can see all races get along and help each other, be peaceful

Robert Kuok business act in Integrity. Please don't assume he become rich because he is a crony!! According to history, He became rich because he had good connection with the Previous BN government who appreciate his help in building Malaysia. The government ask him to help build a good business in Malaysia, and now the current NEw Sohai Government kicked him away.. What the hell ?
They need help, ask him to come. Now, they asked him to leave... That is why he was very sad !!!

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The fact is Najib and the government forced Robert Kuok to leave and take over his business, and right now the sugar price went up!

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Here is some insider info

I have an relative working in Prai sugar Factory in inderawasih
in the past, the bonus can be from 4 to 6 month every year
but the work load during cny/raya can be a b****

guess what
the malay operators (not beig a racist here) would take mc and npl here and there all year long until at the those 4-6 month bonus reduced to nill or a month

then there is the issue of felda taking over
the management was able too nego for 3 years fixed of salary/bonus etc...
after that.. dunno how laa

businessman is businessman
at least from what i see, RK remembers those that help him

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lol..now we have good crony and bad crony?why?because he came from <insert race>,he become good crony?crony is crony.all they do is leech from people and after getting rich enough they will migrate to other country.all of them is like that.no matter malay,cinis or indian cronies.
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lol..now we have good crony and bad crony?why?because he came from <insert race>,he become good crony?crony is crony.all they do is leech from people and after getting rich enough they will migrate to other country.all of them is like that.no matter malay,cinis or indian cronies.
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everyone use connection to start their business, then work hard + smart to make more money and leverage for more business .....

Crony : use connection to get contract then sold the contract out to make commission or use connection to grab other's business then do alibaba style or if business lost money, gov come in subsidy . .. . this is crony, huge different between crony and businessman
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lol..now we have good crony and bad crony?why?because he came from <insert race>,he become good crony?crony is crony.all they do is leech from people and after getting rich enough they will migrate to other country.all of them is like that.no matter malay,cinis or indian cronies.
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Well, i disagree what you said !!!

Robert Kuok leaved because the government wasn't treat him well and forced him to leave ...

Why some of they leaving ? Because they know the government will eat them up later. If they are stupid, their business empire soon will be taken over! I don't want go into the details. I give you a hint, think of UMW Toyata, Think of Maybank, or many other companies. Who actually owned these companies in the beginning? We have to learn from hisotry

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Well, i disagree what you said !!!

Robert Kuok leaved because the government wasn't treat him well and forced him to leave ...

Why some of they leaving ? Because they know the government will eat them up later. If they are stupid, their business empire soon will be taken over! I don't want go into the details. I give you a hint, think of UMW Toyata, Think of Maybank, or other companies. Who actually owned these companies in the beginning? We have to learn from hisotry
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government wasn't treat him well and forced him to leave?lol..if gov wasn't treat him well,they already chase him out in 1968 when he first open the sugar factory.

like i sad before,crony is crony.robert kuok is crony from previous gov.now his master is retired and new master want his crony to leech from the people instead.
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QUOTE(aus1984 @ Oct 1 2012, 12:59 PM)
government wasn't treat him well and forced him to leave?lol..if gov wasn't treat him well,they already chase him out in 1968 when he first open the sugar factory.

like i sad before,crony is crony.robert kuok is crony from previous gov.now his master is retired and new master want his crony to leech from the people instead.
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i think u miss a lot point but insist on ur own ... no different
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Kerajaan akan melahirkan lebih ramai usahawan Bumiputera yang lebih hebat dan kaya daripada Robert Kuok.
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Seems like Malaysians don't know what is the meaning of cronyism and berlagak like a smart ass. Patut la kita dijajah BN 55 tahun and probably another berpuluh-puluh tahun yang akan datang.
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everyone use connection to start their business, then work hard + smart to make more money and leverage for more business .....

Crony : use connection to get contract then sold the contract out to make commission or use connection to grab other's business then do alibaba style or if business lost money, gov come in subsidy . .. .  this is crony, huge different between crony and businessman
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SonnyCooL give a right definition of crony:

Crony : use connection to get contract then sold the contract out to make commission or use connection to grab other's business then do alibaba style or if business lost money, gov come in subsidy . .. . this is crony, huge different between crony and businessman.

I appreciate the previous BN government who have taken care of him. He and his father helped the government a lot you know!!!

IMO, let someone who is good in their filed continue do what they are best of, as long as they add values to our life.

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Kerajaan akan melahirkan lebih ramai usahawan Bumiputera yang lebih hebat dan kaya daripada Robert Kuok.
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The Malays are always racist. This can never change for many decades to come.

If the Malays want to become richer than other races, as long as they do in the right way, then i will have full respect, as they earned it.

There are many opportunities out there that you can create. No need to be jealous and sabotage other people.

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The Malays are always racist. This can never change for many decades to come.

If the Malays want to become richer than other races, as long as they do in the right way..
There are many opportunities out there that you can create. No need to be jealous and sabotage other people.
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the best and worst thing is they get too much of protection, some time i discuss this with my malay friend, they do agree ......
since 1957, gov give them so much, protect and feed them, they can't grow but blame other, good thing, they start to understand now . . . ..
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QUOTE(Billionaire Trump @ Oct 1 2012, 01:06 PM)
SonnyCooL give a right definition of crony:

Crony : use connection to get contract then sold the contract out to make commission or use connection to grab other's business then do alibaba style or if business lost money, gov come in subsidy . .. . this is crony, huge different between crony and businessman.

I appreciate the previous BN government who have taken care of him. He and his father helped the government a lot you know!!!

IMO, let someone who is good in their filed continue do what they are best of, as long as they add values to our life.
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So, a question then...what about Syed Mokhtar Albukhary? Is he a crony or a businessman?
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the best and worst thing is they get too much of protection, some time i discuss this with my malay friend, they do agree ......
since 1957, gov give them so much, protect and feed them, they can't grow but blame other, good thing, they start to understand now . . . ..
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Good to know some of them have realized it.

I am happy to see Malays who can start from Scratch, where got good connection or not with the government doesn't matter. As long as, not like MAS, Proton. When the company failed, the government keep using our tax payer money to subsidize them.


When you keep blame other or be jealous of others, then you won't grow, regardless of races, anyone is the same. I have seen all people like to blame blame blame...

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So, a question then...what about Syed Mokhtar Albukhary? Is he a crony or a businessman?
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No Offense and i am not racist. Based on all the facts i have read, i think he is a Crony
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So, a question then...what about Syed Mokhtar Albukhary? Is he a crony or a businessman?
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syed mokhtar is one of the smart business, he know how to use his connection for bigger profit and also know how to twist smile.gif
he did nothing wrong, is our leader betray us and trusting wrong guy . . . .
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No Offense and i am not racist. Based on all the facts i have read, i think he is a Crony
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syed mokhtar is one of the smart business, he know how to use his connection for bigger profit and also know how to twist smile.gif
he did nothing wrong, is our leader betray us and trusting wrong guy . . . .
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U know how many time sugar price increase after syed take over?
How many time rk in charge?

Krony is those who eat, shit but produce nothing type.

Every successful businessman have their connection with gov but doesn't means they are Krony, they make it with their own.
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Dude,I think how many times I had mentioned in other thread,most of our sugar supply is imported,unless u can prove otherwise
And those sugarcane plantation are gradually 1)being replaced by more-profitable palm oil plantation causing acute supply of brown sugar,other than 2) unstable climate worldwide
Not only sugar but also other crops is having worldwide shortage now such as wheat,corn,soyabean in these recent years and latest coffee bean will spike 20% in price later(source dailymail last week)

So I don't see what's so great about this <over-glorified by insert whatever people> glorifying him again and again

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QUOTE(Billionaire Trump @ Oct 1 2012, 01:10 PM)
The Malays are always racist. This can never change for many decades to come.

If the Malays want to become richer than other races, as long as they do in the right way, then i will have full respect, as they earned it.

There are many opportunities out there that you can create. No need to be jealous and sabotage other people.
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Racist + Stereotyping = A Black Pot whistling.gif

SMB:- Businessman + Crony?

AK:- Businessman + Crony?

RK:- Businesman + Crony?


I see no difference between these three moguls.
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Dude,I think how many times I had mentioned in other thread,most of our sugar supply is imported,unless u can prove otherwise
And those sugarcane plantation are gradually 1)being replaced by more-profitable palm oil plantation causing acute supply of brown sugar,other than 2) unstable climate worldwide
Not only sugar but also other crops is having worldwide shortage now such as wheat,corn,soyabean in these recent years  and latest coffee bean will spike 20% in price later(source dailymail last week)

So I don't see what's so great about this <over-glorified by insert whatever people> glorifying him again and again
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so for the past 30 year sugar nvr encounter that issue ?
best this is reduce subsidy .... why gov reduce subsidy ? subsidy decrease is influence by climate too ??
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QUOTE(MsGaijin @ Oct 1 2012, 02:00 PM)
Racist + Stereotyping = A Black Pot whistling.gif

SMB:- Businessman + Crony?

AK:- Businessman + Crony?

RK:- Businesman + Crony?
I see no difference between these three moguls.
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actually all of them is in between, which business taiko is not related to gov ? . . . . just depend how greedy they are and social return smile.gif
why they don't like AK : because GOV let him monopoly telco market smile.gif
SMB : proton lo ... jack up other to support it smile.gif is really bad move from SMB to take over DRB ...

look at vincent tan, he use his connection and a lot of brain to create current emperor ...

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Dude,I think how many times I had mentioned in other thread,most of our sugar supply is imported,unless u can prove otherwise
And those sugarcane plantation are gradually 1)being replaced by more-profitable palm oil plantation causing acute supply of brown sugar,other than 2) unstable climate worldwide
Not only sugar but also other crops is having worldwide shortage now such as wheat,corn,soyabean in these recent years  and latest coffee bean will spike 20% in price later(source dailymail last week)

So I don't see what's so great about this <over-glorified by insert whatever people> glorifying him again and again
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i agree...
robet kwok is a no body..
i also dont understand why our gahment so taboo to talk about him..
like anwar...our gahment says public opinion on najib increased 3x compared to Jun'12...they like najib 3x more than 4 months ago...but i still dun understsnd why he dont wanna GE since so many ppl like him..
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actually all of them is in between, which business taiko is not related to gov ? . . . . just depend how greedy they are and social return smile.gif
look at vincent tan, he use his connection and a lot of brain to create current emperor ...
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Many of our food stuff are imported and those supply is gradually decreasing due to bad weather and switching to oil palm
Harga roti naik(from imported wheat),harga taufa or tempe naik(imported soyabean),livestock harga naik(due to imported corn and escalated labor cost as affected by minimum wage)

The latest price hike later will be coffee due to price raise in imported coffee bean at 20% worldwide
And these the same group of people(racist/pro-pr etc) will blame bn gomen for sure
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i agree...
robet kwok is a no body..
i also dont understand why our gahment so taboo to talk about him..
like anwar...our gahment says public opinion on najib increased 3x compared to Jun'12...they like najib 3x more than 4 months ago...but i still dun understsnd why he dont wanna GE since so many ppl like him..
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QUOTE(e36.hartge @ Oct 1 2012, 02:18 PM)
Many of our food stuff are imported and those supply is gradually decreasing due to bad weather and switching to oil palm
Harga roti naik(from imported wheat),harga taufa or tempe naik(imported soyabean),livestock harga naik(due to imported corn and escalated labor cost as affected by minimum wage)

The latest price hike later will be coffee due to price raise in imported coffee bean at 20% worldwide
And these the same group of people(racist/pro-pr etc) will blame bn gomen for sure
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so subsidy decrease abt climate or shortage ?
or possible gov exchange term n condition with SMB ? help him get sugar emperor in return subsidy go other's pocket, now with sugar price hike and SMB realize he can't stand it anymore, so some one have to pay the bill, else . . . . . ..
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they r crony with proper business and crony who juz songlap n without contribute
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they r crony with proper business and crony who juz songlap n without contribute
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Kerajaan akan melahirkan lebih ramai usahawan Bumiputera yang lebih hebat dan kaya daripada Robert Kuok.
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so subsidy decrease abt climate or shortage ?
or possible gov exchange term n condition with SMB ? help him get sugar emperor in return subsidy go other's pocket, now with sugar price hike and SMB realize he can't stand it anymore, so some one have to pay the bill, else . . . . . ..
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Both and other factors as well such as replaced the land with more-profitable oil palm
Yeah so now everything must be some political intervention?
I don't know what are u trying to imply but raw brown sugar supply(which mostly imported from thai,philipine and fiji) has been increased in price,just like other food crops in recent 5 years


Added on October 1, 2012, 3:31 pmWheat,malt,corn,soybean,coffee bean all these imported,can u name at least 1 of those that s not increased price in recent 5years?
The sugar mill here only refining those brown sugar,with very little percentage harvested from sugarcane plantation from chuping,perlis

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Kerajaan akan melahirkan lebih ramai usahawan Bumiputera yang lebih hebat dan kaya daripada Robert Kuok.
Kita belum tahu lagi masa depan

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Doesn't he live in HK?

Man, these Chinese newspapers. And people say Utusan is bad.
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he is literally worshipped by the chinese government and the business associations in hk.
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Because he was one the most skewed business man in Asia!!!
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I refuse to read such a long article that disregards grammar lol
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I refuse to read such a  long article that disregards grammar lol
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Don't need to read, i didn't read the long article as well

The bottom line, Robert Kuok is Cool and was the richest man in Malaysia & south east Asia for many consecutive years and his family members (who runs the Wilmar company) in Singapore are billionaires as well. In total of a super-rich multi-billion dollar net worth.

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Both and other factors as well such as replaced the land with more-profitable oil palm
Yeah so now everything must be some political intervention?
I don't know what are u trying to imply but raw brown sugar supply(which mostly imported from thai,philipine and fiji) has been increased in price,just like other food crops in recent 5 years


Added on October 1, 2012, 3:31 pmWheat,malt,corn,soybean,coffee bean all these  imported,can u name at least 1 of those  that s not increased price in recent 5years?
The sugar mill here only refining those brown sugar,with very little percentage harvested from sugarcane plantation from chuping,perlis
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i found u really funny man, now is GOV cut subsidy not SM prices increase . . . . reason gov cut subsidy cause raw material short supply ? prices increase n cutting subsidy is two different thing . .. . ..
today 1kg raw sugar is rm 1.00, gov subsidy is 0.2. so we pay rm 0.8
tomorrow 1kg raw sugar short supplier, prices increase is 0.1 = rm 1.1, after gov subsidy so it become 0.90. that is how it work.


But what u were saying is :
now 1kg rm 1 - gov subsidy 0.2 = rm 0.8
sugar shortage increase rm 0.1 = rm 1.1.
and our sugar subsidy is base on world sugar market ??


what u keep mention coffee n bla bla bla bla bla bla bla only ?

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syed mokhtar albukhary is in debt.













Massimo 1 - 0 Gardenia


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Robert Kuok did not left Malaysia. He might be staying in Hong Kong but he still have alot of businesses in Malaysia such as Federal Flour Mill, The Italian Baker (massimo bread), Wilma Group (for palm oil) and many more companies like nugget making (mariner brand), Golden Screen Cinema, Listerine. Johnson products and many more. Im working in 1 of his companies. He got alot of money so he is expanding many business in overseas.

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QUOTE(blinkxox @ Oct 1 2012, 04:21 PM)
syed mokhtar albukhary is in debt.


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That is why i said Syed Mokthar is a Crony. Let's find out later how much is the total debt incurred by him. I heard it is a huge number

This video say that the government lack of Transparency!!! Who knows the government is going to inject money into his company?

Ok, some of you be proud of your current government lah, who doesn't give a damn about the Rakyat !!! You think they care for the whole Malays ar ? They just want to win your heart, so that the Malays can vote for them and they continue to take advantage of everything for their own interests. Don't get me wrong, i didn't say PR is good either.


Come on, think of it as a shareholders point of view, do you trust the current management of the country? IMO, no !!!

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That is why i said Syed Mokthar is a Crony. Let's find out later how much is the total debt incurred by him. I heard it is a huge number
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finally u arrived. just now only kuok n albukhary...no balance....
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That is why i said Syed Mokthar is a Crony. Let's find out later how much is the total debt incurred by him. I heard it is a huge number
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this is what happens when he try to steal kuok's bisnes...terus mau bankrap...nyawa2 ikan left...

inb4 another MAS,Proton,MISC bailout
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QUOTE(blinkxox @ Oct 1 2012, 05:05 PM)
this is what happens when he try to steal kuok's bisnes...terus mau bankrap...nyawa2 ikan left...

inb4 another MAS,Proton,MISC bailout
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he good in songlap. not in business
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he good in songlap. not in business
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now kuok teach him diploma in business via kolej massimo
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and who in beeEnd said u tak suka u keluar already ar??
i hope more can keluar let malaysia fill with cronies, let them dog eat dog and not producing...
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with US europe shrinking...china will be the next superpower..no need for me to say who will be very important in future....

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They say the same thing about Japan before in the 70's(?) but look what happened. You think USA will give up his top seat so easily? Nothing is forgone conclusion.
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now kuok teach him diploma in business via kolej massimo
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click on the link : My Webpage
Title : When bread is all about dirty politics


Unfortunately, the BN politic keep spreading this rumors through Facebook, Blogs, websites, etc to make malaysian believed that Robert Kuok want to harm the Rakyat. Those UN-educated and ignorance people mind will be affected !!! Their politic tactics are so dirty !!!

Obviously, they want SMA Gardenia to win, so they asked people to boycott those products and it is as politic propaganda.

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old news la.....kroni diutamakan ma
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QUOTE(Billionaire Trump @ Oct 1 2012, 05:32 PM)
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click on the link : My Webpage
Title : When bread is all about dirty politics
Unfortunately, the BN politic keep spreading this rumors through Facebook, Blogs, websites, etc to make malaysian believed that Robert Kuok want to harm the Rakyat. Those UN-educated and ignorance people mind will be affected !!! Their politic tactics are so dirty !!!

Whatever said in the article is untrue... Obviously, they want SMA Gardenia to win
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ahhhh the standard come back...anti islam/yahudi...typical...
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They say the same thing about Japan before in the 70's(?) but look what happened. You think USA will give up his top seat so easily? Nothing is forgone conclusion.
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unless US gonna invade more oil produce country, else they still gonna fall, all us lazy bump lik hell,
business let cainis song lap all
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Title : When bread is all about dirty politics
Unfortunately, the BN politic keep spreading this rumors through Facebook, Blogs, websites, etc to make malaysian believed that Robert Kuok want to harm the Rakyat. Those UN-educated and ignorance people mind will be affected !!! Their politic tactics are so dirty !!!

Whatever said in the article is untrue... Obviously, they want SMA Gardenia to win, so they asked people to boycott those products and it is as politic propaganda.
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They need more creative team.. Once the slander making use of Malay and Islam sentiment, automatically BN will appear on my mind.
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QUOTE(Billionaire Trump @ Oct 1 2012, 05:32 PM)
[img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VMIRICmxbtY/UCXlEdnYiAI/AAAAAAAAADQ/pwJqI7tmHsQ/s1600/Massimo.jpg[img]

click on the link : My Webpage
Title : When bread is all about dirty politics
Unfortunately, the BN politic keep spreading this rumors through Facebook, Blogs, websites, etc to make malaysian believed that Robert Kuok want to harm the Rakyat. Those UN-educated and ignorance people mind will be affected !!! Their politic tactics are so dirty !!!

Obviously, they want SMA Gardenia to win, so they asked people to boycott those products and it is as politic propaganda.
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Educated and well informed people will know what is the truth, but for kampung people, they will surely believe such lies, unfortunately. Especially when it comes to religion and race.
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Unfortunately, the BN politic keep spreading this rumors through Facebook, Blogs, websites, etc to make malaysian believed that Robert Kuok want to harm the Rakyat. Those UN-educated and ignorance people mind will be affected !!! Their politic tactics are so dirty !!!

Obviously, they want SMA Gardenia to win, so they asked people to boycott those products and it is as politic propaganda.
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Why is BN getting the blame for this?
First of all I dont think that MCA or MIC will agree with this.

If there is anyone who is the most suspicious, it would be the folks who own Gardenia or Robert Kuok's competitor.
Why the hell is BN getting the blame in this?
It's not BN vs. Robert Kuok.

It seems that whatever thing happens under the sun in Malaysia that you don't like, BN gets the blame.

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Why is BN getting the blame for this?
First of all I dont think that MCA or MIC will agree with this.

If there is anyone who is the most suspicious, it would be the folks who own Gardenia or Robert Kuok's competitor.
Why the hell is BN getting the blame in this?
It's not BN vs. Robert Kuok.

It seems that whatever thing happens under the sun in Malaysia that you don't like, BN gets the blame.
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gardenia = umno
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syed mokhtar albukhary is in debt.


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Yes good, down Syed Mokhtar down Bumis Meleis UMNO company

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massimo = PR? hmm.gif
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massimo = PR? hmm.gif
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gadenia=sai botak= armno

masimo=???
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why need subsidy and confuses each other..
just cut off the subsidy, let everyone know, whose person is the greedy one.

either, the GOV that does not supplied and sell those material

or

the seller itself.

we have to be clear, whose the one that we were actually fighting against.
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Fuhh, what a foot in mouth f*** up. Way to go to push fence sitters to BN side!
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QUOTE(barca96 @ Oct 2 2012, 12:55 PM)
Why is BN getting the blame for this?
First of all I dont think that MCA or MIC will agree with this.

If there is anyone who is the most suspicious, it would be the folks who own Gardenia or Robert Kuok's competitor.
Why the hell is BN getting the blame in this?
It's not BN vs. Robert Kuok.

It seems that whatever thing happens under the sun in Malaysia that you don't like, BN gets the blame.
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I think Syed Mothar and BN are close related. The government do helped him on business & development. There is a very close link.

Well, people use Robert Kuok picture for politic propaganda.

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Reference?
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QUOTE(barca96 @ Oct 2 2012, 12:55 PM)
Why is BN getting the blame for this?
First of all I dont think that MCA or MIC will agree with this.

If there is anyone who is the most suspicious, it would be the folks who own Gardenia or Robert Kuok's competitor.
Why the hell is BN getting the blame in this?
It's not BN vs. Robert Kuok.

It seems that whatever thing happens under the sun in Malaysia that you don't like, BN gets the blame.
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duhh. obviously we will blame the government who is in power.
why the heck would we blame pakatan rakyat who is not able to exert influence over anything.
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why need subsidy and confuses each other..
just cut off the subsidy, let everyone know, whose person is the greedy one.

either, the GOV that does not supplied and sell those material

or

the seller itself.

we have to be clear, whose the one that we were actually fighting against.
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i agree with this also..
cut off subsidy....then rakyat will know how to use their brain better...
but then again, gahment say the pay RM100 for subsidy..how we know RM80 dint go to kroni poket?
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i agree with this also..
cut off subsidy....then rakyat will know how to use their brain better...
but then again, gahment say the pay RM100 for subsidy..how we know RM80 dint go to kroni poket?
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exactly. everything need to be transparent.
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Real corporate leaders build businesses.......cronies acting as corporate leaders take over

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Najis want to kill Kuok, but got killed instead


Added on October 9, 2012, 3:05 pmNajis want to kill Kuok, but got killed instead

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so when bad things happen then only work together? when in good situation how? balik tongsan lagi?
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