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NeoXeroX
post May 28 2012, 10:54 AM

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Hi guys,

any skill combination for inferno act 1? i just stepped into it yesterday and completed first quest only... i was not being careful and got hit by grandpa zombie, 1 hit caused me 24k HP.... doh.gif

my current build is,

Mouse :
Hungering Arrow + Spray of Teeth
Elemental Arrow + Nerther Tentacles

Numpad :
1 - Smoke Screen + Lingering Fog (Increase the duration of the effect to 3 seconds)
2 - Preparation + Backup Plan (There is a 30% chance that Preparation cooldown will not be triggered)
3 - Impale + Grievous Wounds (Critical Hits cause 100% additional damage)
4 - Mark of Death + Death Toll (Heal attackers for 1% of the damage done to the marked target)

Passive :
Archery
SharpShooter
Vengeance

dps : 26k
armour : 2k
hp : 35k
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post May 28 2012, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 28 2012, 10:58 AM)
wah, too many HP low DPS
might as well u focus on DPS
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ya... i feel that my dps is kinda low, need to farm more to upgrade my hand bow, between i am using 1 hand bow for faster attack speed instead of 2 hand comes with higher damage but slow, just cant stand the attack speed... i am on 2.02 att speed currently... sweat.gif guess still too weak in inferno...

QUOTE(zeronova @ May 28 2012, 11:04 AM)
switch impale to overpenetration, else change to elemental arrow with screaming skull
switch mark of death to spiked trap with tortuous ground.

i'm at act 2 now, killing elites with ease
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ok sifu notworthy.gif noted your advice and will try on it tonight, probably need to change the skill from time to time when hunting elites and boss... will update here again after try. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post May 28 2012, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 28 2012, 10:53 AM)
my aspd is 2.53
damage increased by dex 1700%++
why total DPS sill 40k..
must be something wrong here..
i use all increase % attach speed for my gears..
and all my gears got > 100 DEX each
hmm.gif
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my guess it must be due to the passive skill named : Archery

Bow : 15% Increase damage
CrossBow : 50% Critial Hit Damage
Hand Crossbows : 10% Critical Hit Chance

When i used a 400dps 2 hand CrossBow, it gives me about 20k damage with slower speed, i upgrade my 1 hand crossbow with 8xx dps, it gives me 26k damage... so my guess will be the passive skill which doing the trick out there.

P/S : supposing the 8xx dps 1 hand crossbow should give that damage, my point is when we are using 2 hand CrossBow, it tends to boost up the damage with slower attack speed.

QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 28 2012, 11:19 AM)
oh dual handed DH smile.gif
i use to dual handed till i addicted to DPS
using bow @ 2.53
really shiok when playing with other classes
they will shout ur name "hurry laboo, DPS DPS we need DPSSS!" during fight with elite / bosses..
coz monk, barb does to damage as high as us..
and monk tank better than barb! tongue.gif
cool DH~  rclxms.gif
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haha not leh, currently using 1 hand crossbow with quiver, still looking for a better one with comes with dex,vit,speed,hatred regen and resistance. Yup, DH is about damage dealing rclxms.gif

Hell Mode Act 3 is relatively easy to me atm, which i advice my barb fren to pump gold finding gear and do the tanking, whereby i am at the back shoot like nobody business.. good for them but well, i am helping them out icon_rolleyes.gif


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post May 28 2012, 12:29 PM

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hey guys, lets do some testing, please remove all the passive skill and post up in the field as below, lets find out which passive skill which actually boots up the damage.

Type of Bow : Bow / 1 Hand Crossbow / 2 Hand Crossbow
Clean Damage :
Damage without Sharp Shooter :
Damage without Archery :
Damage with Sharp Shooter & Archery :

i think from the above we should know...

Sharp shooter = boost 3% critical chance every sec until 100%
Archery =
Bow : 15% Increase damage
2 Hand CrossBow : 50% Critical Hit Damage
1 Hand CrossBow : 10% Critical Hit Chance

As what i observed, when i'm tele to town to sell stuffs, my damage will be keep on increasing until the extend - the critical chance becoming 100%, add-on with Archery : 50% critical hit damage, it will be omgosh.. (i was using 2 hand crossbow that time)

whereby for 1 Hand bow, it doesn't make a big effect for this, because it only increase the critical hit chance by 10% which adds a little damage to our dps only...

please correct me if i am wrong wink.gif


So, basically 2 handed crossbow will only make a big damage on the first hit, and everything will reset to the original stats when in the battle with slower att speed compare to 1 handed crossbow/bow

This post has been edited by NeoXeroX: May 28 2012, 12:32 PM
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post May 28 2012, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ May 28 2012, 05:20 PM)
I think I'm about 1 week behind you in progress. The good thing about being late to the party is that 800-ish dps bows are much cheaper now laugh.gif
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oh ya i think we are the same stage too, bought 872 dps bow for like 800k, i am happy for that and farming happily too laugh.gif
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post May 28 2012, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(milzer1993 @ May 28 2012, 05:29 PM)
hi guys...level 55 DH reporting in..so hard in Act 2 Hell level...wanna buy equipment..DPS only 7k... cannot survived.. any good place for farming gold guys (nightmare level)?
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hi there, i personally wouldn't suggest you to farm now at level55, due to the buff x 5, which makes a lot easier for you to farm rather than farming now at level55 in nightmare mode, endure the pain and frustration, get it over, until you reach level 60 and farm on act 3 Hell, which is more suitable IMHO... been there, done that too, next stage i face is inferno wink.gif
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post May 29 2012, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ May 29 2012, 04:51 PM)
my friend's DH has a whooping 70k dps =.=

and still stuck at inferno act 2
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you can try to ask him that, after the first critical damage done, open inventory and have a look on the raw damage, i believe it will not be the 70k dps consistence.. probably 40-50k range or might be lower nod.gif
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post May 29 2012, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 29 2012, 05:03 PM)
Sharpshoothe is which leh??
im confused ady can't see any sharpshooter skill..

what i use, Steady Aim, Cull of the Weak and Archery
need to replace which one??  rclxub.gif

and wuts an IAS?  icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(NeoXeroX @ May 28 2012, 12:29 PM)
Sharp shooter = boost 3% critical chance every sec until 100%
Archery =
Bow : 15% Increase damage
2 Hand CrossBow : 50% Critical Hit Damage
1 Hand CrossBow : 10% Critical Hit Chance

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Steady Aim helping to boots up the damage too, IAS if not wrong should be Increase Attack Speed
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post May 29 2012, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 29 2012, 05:13 PM)
ooh that one is Sharpshooter..
will it also counted in out total DAMAGE when checking our character (pressing C key)?
and yes.. i use all IAS stuff, even my bow.
and all emerald upgraded to the second highest.
still 40K Damage when pressing C
damn!!

bow already 920DPS..
what went wrong.. hmm..
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yes, it will count in the damage, but when we done on the critical, it reset to the original stage and start increasing again and again until the critical chance hit 100%

for your DPS, i gotta comment, it's because you're on bow, with not much DPS madness increment with the passive skill helping by Archery. Thus your damage will constantly staying roughly 30-35k per shot approximately, whereby for those who is taking 2 handed crossbow, it gotta have the madness DPS for the first few hit, and then the DPS will drop quite a volume. refer ZeratoS's post for better understanding too nod.gif

QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 29 2012, 02:48 PM)
There is no such thing as crazy DPS without Sharpshooter, Steady Aim and Archery. Trust me, those are all inflated values. Actual top DPS values range from 50~60k only. Also, look at the raw damage on the weapon. DPS may be lower due to IAS but when you're doing burst damage, IAS hardly matters.
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In Short :
get a decent 600-700 dps 2 handed crossbow to try it out, you should see the differentiate between them. Remember to hook up your passive skill : Archery.

This post has been edited by NeoXeroX: May 29 2012, 05:24 PM
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post May 30 2012, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ May 29 2012, 09:09 PM)
Let say you have 1000dps weapon and 1500dex ...

Radiant star ruby +20-40dmg ... Radiant star emerald +100% critical hit damage...

Ruby = dmg*1500dex, you get +300 min dmg / +600 max dmg..
Emerald = total damage 15k + 100% = 30k..

With SS passive ability.. Your first shot will always be critical which is 30k..

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nod.gif nod.gif it's always better to slot in emerald than ruby, according to your formula on top already can tell that, each shoot we can gain from ruby is about extra 300-600 constantly, be it max out 6k damage extra for 10 shoots, i believe out of 10, at least 2-4 will strike critical depending on the critical chance rate. if 2 provided with the Radiant star emerald(100% damage when critical), the extra damage we gain is extra 30k..


QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 29 2012, 10:32 PM)
whoa dice..
hmm thinking of going for Xbow like this  hmm.gif
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with your current AS, i believe you should be doing fine, i doubt you can stand the speed though unsure.gif
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post Jun 8 2012, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ Jun 8 2012, 08:44 AM)
why not wait for patch 1.0.3?
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errr, perfect square and above the price,tomes,quantity of gem will still remains after 1.0.3 patch, i see no point waiting though sweat.gif

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post Jun 8 2012, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ Jun 8 2012, 08:53 AM)
i thought the cost for jewel crafting will go down
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post Jul 5 2012, 12:26 PM

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for those who missed out, the dps showed is actually without SS...

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