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TSahtun9
post May 15 2012, 10:54 AM, updated 14y ago

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Realized no one made thread for DH sad.gif

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post May 15 2012, 10:58 AM

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reporting in! haha.... what build are ya guys playing? it is wise to stick to DPS??
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post May 15 2012, 11:20 AM

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isn't DH all about dps? lol.. gonna try high crit build
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post May 15 2012, 11:33 AM

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post May 15 2012, 12:22 PM

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i duno want to use monk or DH...LOL


Added on May 15, 2012, 12:22 pmi duno want to use monk or DH...LOL

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^DH liao..Monk overloaded laugh.gif
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post May 15 2012, 12:47 PM

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Reporting in....
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post May 15 2012, 01:15 PM

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We always have a choice smile.gif
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already can play ah? i iz sad coz need to wait until end of month.. rite now no budget to buy D3 sad.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(mi-g @ May 15 2012, 01:19 PM)
already can play ah? i iz sad coz need to wait until end of month.. rite now no budget to buy D3 sad.gif cry.gif
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try getting some guest passes...can play till Act 1 SK and level up ur chars till 13
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post May 15 2012, 01:34 PM

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But Monk can leap over to kill DH sad.gif.
I choose DH because of the armor set drool.gif
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post May 15 2012, 01:39 PM

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I'm the only survivor...
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post May 15 2012, 01:40 PM

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Any squishy hot n sexy DH out there wanna hire a barb tank bodyguard? biggrin.gif
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post May 15 2012, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 15 2012, 01:40 PM)
Any squishy hot n sexy DH out there wanna hire a barb tank bodyguard?  biggrin.gif
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post May 15 2012, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 15 2012, 02:40 PM)
Any squishy hot n sexy DH out there wanna hire a barb tank bodyguard?  biggrin.gif
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hot and sexy in game, but ugly fat batang in real life! brows.gif
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post May 15 2012, 02:00 PM

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DH DH DH! Yeah!! tongue.gif
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post May 15 2012, 02:07 PM

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post May 15 2012, 02:26 PM

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haha i see other class thread starter macam very serious.. got --reserved-- here and there.. i just wanna chit chat =(


Added on May 15, 2012, 2:27 pmGonna make a leng zai DH btw... Legolas wannabe woot!

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post May 15 2012, 02:35 PM

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Same here, going to be starting up with a DH!
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post May 15 2012, 02:39 PM

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post May 15 2012, 02:49 PM

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i think DH gonna suck in PVP...
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post May 15 2012, 02:50 PM

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good players can make any class own =P
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QUOTE(y3ivan @ May 15 2012, 02:49 PM)
i think DH gonna suck in PVP...
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post May 15 2012, 03:55 PM

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any skill tree/lists?
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post May 15 2012, 03:56 PM

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Dh is reporting in smile.gif
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post May 15 2012, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ May 15 2012, 03:55 PM)
any skill tree/lists?
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u mean recommended builds? no one will have anything about that yet i guess whistling.gif
if u just want to see the skills -> http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter
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post May 15 2012, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 15 2012, 04:34 PM)
u mean recommended builds? no one will have anything about that yet i guess  whistling.gif
if u just want to see the skills -> http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter
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i mean is there any detailed description of each of all the skills available to the class? how many levels each, at what level is the skill unlocked, pre-reqs etc. the calculator is nice but i wish there were a simpler written form/list/tree


Added on May 15, 2012, 5:08 pmoh i think i got it. thanks

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/demon-hunter/

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post May 15 2012, 06:26 PM

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high crit seems to be the only way to go to own for DH. any other suggestions? will definitely get pawned by mob
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post May 15 2012, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(y3ivan @ May 15 2012, 07:26 PM)
high crit seems to be the only way to go to own for DH. any other suggestions? will definitely get pawned by mob
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how to build a high crit DH? based on weapon/armors ??? coz we couldn't adjust the stat right? unsure.gif
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post May 15 2012, 06:30 PM

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i dun really understand how leveling in D3 works. each skill only got 1 level issit and is upgradeable with "runes" instead of putting many points in one single skill like D2?

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QUOTE(MaryWong @ May 15 2012, 03:56 PM)
Dh is reporting in smile.gif
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Sexy Demon Hunter reporting in brows.gif
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post May 15 2012, 08:33 PM

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this uh.. will be what my DH looks like

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demo...;ceT!baZbaY
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post May 15 2012, 09:15 PM

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DH reporting in..

Thinking of moving to WD
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post May 15 2012, 09:26 PM

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post May 15 2012, 10:56 PM

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we have brief invisibility...... traps, range and speed. Though I think we'll be owned by monk with their heal and teleport.

I guess DH is very equipment dependent....
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post May 16 2012, 01:51 AM

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how's everyone liking it so far? Entangling shot + Rapid Fire my fav atm thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 16 2012, 01:51 AM)
how's everyone liking it so far? Entangling shot + Rapid Fire my fav atm  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ May 15 2012, 07:42 PM)
Sexy Demon Hunter reporting in  brows.gif
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then i saw a hot one brows.gif
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post May 16 2012, 10:03 AM

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no mood in office.. i miss my leng zai hunter!
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I miss my sexy hunter huarghhhhh. Should have taken leave today sad.gif
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post May 16 2012, 11:27 AM

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haha she's waiting for u.. what bows are u guys using btw? i think i prefer dual xbow more
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post May 16 2012, 11:41 AM

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dual bows ftw! faster attack speed, better machinegun damage
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post May 16 2012, 12:10 PM

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seldom get rare 1h crossbows =(
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post May 16 2012, 12:37 PM

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Demon hunter is going to be my favourite class for a long time lol

Cant wait to dual wield crossbows , combine with Rapid Fire its going to be awesome!

Im still using Hungering Shot at Level 7 lol
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Rapid fire is overrated.The hatred to dmg ratio for me at least is not worth it as you need to stand still and have someone to tank.
Impale is more reliable imho.

The way Im playing now is get in get out with vault+evasive fire, supporting the team with aoe stun through torturous ground caltrops.
2sec aoe stun is so imba. thumbup.gif

My dh build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demo...;Zeh!ccZZcY

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post May 16 2012, 01:29 PM

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yeah caltrops is really awesome for crowd control if you decide to atk nearer.. but strife and fan of knives kinda lame lol
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Caltrop is such a life saver ,I normally would use Impale only again on difficult mobs lol I think it would be great for PVP due to stun knockback.

Anyways the feeling of Rapid Fire against a bunch of undeads heading towards you slowed by caltrops is awesome!
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LOL rapid fire feels like my DH is carrying a MG42 laugh.gif

chain arrow also useful for crowd control.. kesian them mobs kena chain laugh.gif

and plus Caltrops... the mobs is like americans soldier on D-Day normandy, mowed down by germans MG42 at the beach

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I'm having fun with rapid fire and caltrops now. Will experiment more with skill combos once I gain a few levels.
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1hand crossbow quite hard to get
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At first it's a little bit boring for Demon Hunter, but when you are getting higher level, more exciting skills and damage coming up.

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post May 17 2012, 09:22 AM

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Nightmare mode is a joke so far. Took me less than a day to get to Nightmare. Been trawling around for good stuff now.

Be 60 by tomorrow or so.

Edit: Lvl43 now lulz. Working on act 2.

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Yeah I think it's really easy to get lv60.. hmm.. maybe the real deal is inferno
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Take Twin Chakrams. Period.

Hungering Arrow with Puncturing Arrow is the best single target DPS for DH because it can infinitely proc so you could have arrows piercing bosses non-stop.

Chakram + Bat companion means you have 7 hatred regen. As of now I can throw Chakrams endlessly so farming is easy.

I'll report back later on how hard the next difficulty is.
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Hmm will try twin chakrams tonight. My lvl 18 DH seems slow at farming currently.
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Hungering shot+rapid shot coupled with caltrops get me through almost everything at the moment
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post May 17 2012, 11:54 AM

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Currently i'm sticking with bola shot [volatile explosives] + twin chakrams, ownage aoe
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I'm sticking with hunger shot + bola shot to up hatred so i can spam my rapid shot machinegun.

oh, try going to the Auction House to look for cheap weapons. I got 2 +29 dex 21.5dmg/sec crossbows for only 1800 gold total. Only 900 each!
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QUOTE(mgb @ May 17 2012, 10:46 AM)
Hmm will try twin chakrams tonight. My lvl 18 DH seems slow at farming currently.
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Definitely use twin chakram. Nice aoe and damage for fairly low hatred.
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eh, for a level 35 demon hunter, what is the average

dps
dodge %
armor damage reduction %

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 17 2012, 01:42 PM)
eh, for a level 35 demon hunter, what is the average

dps
dodge %
armor damage reduction %
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I'm currently at level 35.

1185 dps
618 dex, 22% dodge
806 armor, 31% reduction

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QUOTE(apamise @ May 17 2012, 01:45 PM)
I'm currently at level 35.

1185 dps
618 dex, 22% dodge
806 armor, 31% reduction
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ah i see thanks! so demon hunter got higher ranged damage then.

my monk level 35

700 dps
600+ dex, 40% dodge, 3 seconds of 50% dodge with mantra activation
1500 armor, 50% reduction, 60% reduction when fighting.

i using enchantress follower, got choose +armor skill
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Dps depends on items stats also i guess.. 2-4 dmg or 3-6 dmg stats affect a lot on dps compared to dex
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QUOTE(Kyl3 @ May 17 2012, 12:54 PM)
Currently i'm sticking with bola shot [volatile explosives] + twin chakrams, ownage aoe
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YEAH..really effective when facing large group of mods... thumbup.gif
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just got my copy today and just got it to lvl 10 LOLOL. no time to play properly :/
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bola shot with lightning very cool thumbup.gif
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I'm seeing these crazy DPS from other class... as Wizard I only have like 200+ at level 29. Doing something wrong? Pure unlucky on gear drop?
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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 17 2012, 05:02 PM)
bola shot with lightning very cool  thumbup.gif
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lightning bola+stun impale, coupled with lashing tail kick stun from monk = permastunned boss. biggrin.gif

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damm. I just finished act 1 and I'm going hungering shot + rapid fire with twin xbows.

I was wondering if our attack speed somehow affected the ROF of our rapid fire.
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My friend had a damage rating of like 2k at lvl41, dunno how he pump his stats sia.
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another deadly AOE combo , shadow power + bola shot [volatile explosives] + twin chakrams + Multishot thumbup.gif

really nothing come close to me... wink.gif
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QUOTE(Eiensakura @ May 18 2012, 02:42 AM)
My friend had a damage rating of like 2k at lvl41, dunno how he pump his stats sia.
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I'm lvl 44 and my damage is 2.8k. It's not that hard to get high damage, just occasionally check the auction house (I check once every 4~5 level).
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QUOTE(Eiensakura @ May 18 2012, 02:42 AM)
My friend had a damage rating of like 2k at lvl41, dunno how he pump his stats sia.
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DEX, Flat damage increase, critical damage, attack speed, critical rate all contribute to your damage rating.

user posted image

This is mine at the moment.

P.S: That's not alot. Regular elites in Hell have around 100k health now and 2hko me if I'm not careful.

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guys i need some advice...
Current i'm lvl 7...
using Hungering + rapid shot
then the trap...
till lvl 9? unlock the skill?
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My DH spamming twin chakram and bola shot, waiting to get the electrocute bola shot, gonna be nice spamming those at boss fight.

My bow atk speed is at 1.70 but the dmg is kinda low. All the bow I saw or pick up have lesser atck speed, anyone got better bow than 1.60 atk speed??
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QUOTE(rayz1031 @ May 18 2012, 11:08 AM)
My DH spamming twin chakram and bola shot, waiting to get the electrocute bola shot, gonna be nice spamming those at boss fight.

My bow atk speed is at 1.70 but the dmg is kinda low. All the bow I saw or pick up have lesser atck speed, anyone got better bow than 1.60 atk speed??
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Not until higher tier. Cluckeye has 1.58~1.60 attack speed.

They may have lower rate of fire, but they make up for it in raw damage which contributes to your skill damage. If you are using skills like chakram, then faster RoF is better but for high hatred cost skills like impale, its better to use 2-H crossbow or bow with high attack.


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Wow you guys are surely fast...level 35 already?
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hmm whats the difference between dual wielding hand crossbows and holding a quiver in the off hand? i dont think i really notice the diff of dual wielding and single wielding in terms of firing speed.
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quiver usually for better hatred regeneration.. most of the time..

dual 1h xbow probably has better dmg output if both weapons are of same DPS..

but still.. depends on stats.. i got some quiver really good stats biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wintzen @ May 18 2012, 11:15 AM)
Wow you guys are surely fast...level 35 already?
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pretty easy to level, if i'm still a student i should be 60 already
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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 18 2012, 11:13 AM)
Not until higher tier. Cluckeye has 1.58~1.60 attack speed.

They may have lower rate of fire, but they make up for it in raw damage which contributes to your skill damage. If you are using skills like chakram, then faster RoF is better but for high hatred cost skills like impale, its better to use 2-H crossbow or bow with high attack.
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I really like bow with high RoF, can spam faster chakram. I managed to get 4-5 hours game time daily, not sure how long it takes for me to get to your lvl laugh.gif
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QUOTE(rayz1031 @ May 18 2012, 11:35 AM)
I really like bow with high RoF, can spam faster chakram. I managed to get 4-5 hours game time daily, not sure how long it takes for me to get to your lvl laugh.gif
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30 odd hours of play maybe? A week then, fairly reasonable.

If you like high RoF bows...may I present to you my favourite bow of all time:

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/item/windforce


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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 18 2012, 11:42 AM)
30 odd hours of play maybe? A week then, fairly reasonable.

If you like high RoF bows...may I present to you my favourite bow of all time:

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/item/windforce
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been missing the one i use with my rogue since D1 cry.gif
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guise, please advice the best setup for PvE.
focus on DEX or need to add some VIT?

my attack is quite high, but i slam from big boss almost died liao
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i find shadow power useful, and preparation with 3rd or 4th rune.. regen hp and refill discipline one

vit surely important, but with our low armor.. i think not much diff lol..
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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 18 2012, 11:54 AM)
i find shadow power useful, and preparation with 3rd or 4th rune.. regen hp and refill discipline one

vit surely important, but with our low armor.. i think not much diff lol..
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shadow power?
is good good bro?
i never use that since i am using the trap.
the time for shadow power is so short sad.gif
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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 18 2012, 11:54 AM)
i find shadow power useful, and preparation with 3rd or 4th rune.. regen hp and refill discipline one

vit surely important, but with our low armor.. i think not much diff lol..
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Smokescreen does the same thing but gives you immunity. Why would you pick Shadow Power?
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u know there's elective mode right? i'm using both caltrops and shadow power.. haha.. so far so good for me..

timer is short but cd is quick, costly though, that's why need to use preparation to restore discipline


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Smokescreen does the same thing but gives you immunity. Why would you pick Shadow Power?
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using shadow power for life leech

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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 18 2012, 12:02 PM)
u know there's elective mode right? i'm using both caltrops and shadow power.. haha.. so far so good for me..

timer is short but cd is quick, costly though, that's why need to use preparation to restore discipline


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using shadow power for life leech
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so u press S and drag the skill to skillbar like WoW?? hmm.gif
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hmm select elective mode, then right click on the skill on skill bar.. it lets you replace with whatever skills you want.. and whichever slot you want.. just press the --> arrow to select other skills


Added on May 18, 2012, 12:08 pmoh also on the skillbar can drag skills around too smile.gif

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Defensively, I find that the Vault skill "2 key" to be extremely effective to escape from being cornered.

The Evasive Fire also quite good in dodging close melee monsters
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ok! thanks man for the info! smile.gif
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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 18 2012, 11:42 AM)
30 odd hours of play maybe? A week then, fairly reasonable.

If you like high RoF bows...may I present to you my favourite bow of all time:

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/item/windforce
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Windforce !!! This reminds me the one in Diablo (1996) !!
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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 18 2012, 12:15 PM)
currently loving Screaming Skull rune for Elemental Arrow.. run demons run!
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yeah man..
that skill really helps me alot..
i am using 2x 1handed bow and RoF is naise..
monster comes closer i spam dat thing.. lol!

btw bro, what do u think of the companion?
seems useless to me.. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(tanghm @ May 18 2012, 12:15 PM)
Windforce !!! This reminds me the one in Diablo (1996) !!
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haha i think it's pretty useless too.. i show my WD friend the bat companion.. one small bat..

he laughed at me and shows me his.. a SWARM of bats =.="

they do pretty good dps though, but looks so weak
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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 18 2012, 12:18 PM)
haha i think it's pretty useless too.. i show my WD friend the bat companion.. one small bat..

he laughed at me and shows me his.. a SWARM of bats =.="

they do pretty good dps though, but looks so weak
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firebats lolol. i think it can later be upgraded with runes into wolf or bears or godzilla companions rite
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3 moar hours to go and i can grind till Monday morning!!!!!!!
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By the way anyone encountered a fatty mob called Jay Wilson? You get an achievement killing it. Saw it last night and I was like LOLOLOLOLOLLLLL shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif

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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 18 2012, 02:56 PM)
By the way anyone encountered a fatty mob called Jay Wilson? You get an achievement killing it. Saw it last night and I was like LOLOLOLOLOLLLLL  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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huh for real?
in which Act? got any special items dropped?
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guys, does STR applies in DH?
till now i only focus on DEX, health kinda low..
attack is high but really pain when taking damage sad.gif
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 18 2012, 04:17 PM)
guys, does STR applies in DH?
till now i only focus on DEX, health kinda low..
attack is high but really pain when taking damage sad.gif
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Str is for increasing you armor and physical resistances smile.gif i try to find decent gear that has a combination of str+dex, or vit+dex.
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QUOTE(shojikun @ May 18 2012, 04:24 PM)
Str is for increasing you armor and physical resistances smile.gif i try to find decent gear that has a combination of str+dex, or vit+dex.
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i see..
i got lotsa gems, already crafted few radiant class gems.
hopefully can get good gears with 2 slots
can mix amethyst and emerald inside
DH life is so little mad.gif
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 18 2012, 04:34 PM)
i see..
i got lotsa gems, already crafted few radiant class gems.
hopefully can get good gears with 2 slots
can mix amethyst and emerald inside
DH life is so little  mad.gif
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hehe definetely go for vit+dex items smile.gif
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 18 2012, 04:17 PM)
guys, does STR applies in DH?
till now i only focus on DEX, health kinda low..
attack is high but really pain when taking damage sad.gif
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dex increases dodge no? dodging is more suitable for us DH since we prefer to avoid danger rather than face it head on lol. but ofc we still need a bit of vit and str for survival.
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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ May 18 2012, 04:54 PM)
dex increases dodge no? dodging is more suitable for us DH since we prefer to avoid danger rather than face it head on lol. but ofc we still need a bit of vit and str for survival.
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yup dex increase dodge, but then in nightmare dodge high oso those jilaka elite punya spell hurts really bad..
physical can easily dodge, but magic rclxub.gif
the thing i hate the most is the demon that shoot mortars to you from farm..
ffffffuuuuuuuuuu mad.gif
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 18 2012, 04:56 PM)
yup dex increase dodge, but then in nightmare dodge high oso those jilaka elite punya spell hurts really bad..
physical can easily dodge, but magic  rclxub.gif
the thing i hate the most is the demon that shoot mortars to you from farm..
ffffffuuuuuuuuuu  mad.gif
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hihi. but to better resist magic you need Int right? i guess they did a good job with balancing the stats. each one is important. but i think vit pretty much covers a lot of bases in survivability.
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Haha at first i oso shout at General chat "What's the purpose of my so called Raven companion (more to garbage Crows at KL doh.gif)?" Cant see much rather than it Flying arounds. After seriously focus on it, Ouhhh it does hit sometimes LoL..haizz looks so tiny and harmless laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ May 18 2012, 05:01 PM)
hihi. but to better resist magic you need Int right? i guess they did a good job with balancing the stats. each one is important. but i think vit pretty much covers a lot of bases in survivability.
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this is very true smile.gif add more vit also do not forget you're Dex smile.gif
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yeah man..
will gor for vit+dex for PvE
PvP later we tok, homagad.
so addicted now.
1 more hour to go.

seriously, who is using the companion in here?
what is the real function?
i got this Boar Companion, but it's damage is uselss..
can't brain what issit for..

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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 18 2012, 05:10 PM)
yeah man..
will gor for vit+dex for PvE
PvP later we tok, homagad.
so addicted now.
1 more hour to go.

seriously, who is using the companion in here?
what is the real function?
i got this Boar Companion, but it's damage is uselss..
can't brain what issit for..
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i use templar companion, purpose it to heal me and block enemy from coming to me while i kill them all biggrin.gif damn nice with the collision added make companion tanking more useful biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 18 2012, 05:10 PM)
yeah man..
will gor for vit+dex for PvE
PvP later we tok, homagad.
so addicted now.
1 more hour to go.

seriously, who is using the companion in here?
what is the real function?
i got this Boar Companion, but it's damage is uselss..
can't brain what issit for..
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I think boar is for 1 player, where you got boar and hireling to tank for you while you hit from afar.
Other than that, its not very good.

There are more details for the skills (especially the weapon dmg scaling percentage) in the official site.
It says companion does 30% dmg (wolf does 60%), so pretty much not worth it other than keeping your enemy busy.

If you analyze it from dps pov, it does damage, which is arguably very offensive for a defensive skill, if you are "the best defense is good offense" kind of guy.

btw
Late game dh needs lifeleech so desperately, either through skills or weapon properties.
If not, later when you face waller/vortex enemy will gg.
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QUOTE(shojikun @ May 18 2012, 05:22 PM)
i use templar companion, purpose it to heal me and block enemy from coming to me while i kill them all biggrin.gif damn nice with the collision added make companion tanking more useful biggrin.gif
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i think i made u confused, tongue.gif
it's the animal companion i meant.
the one where we get when using our skill..
what does it do??
seems useless rclxub.gif


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I think boar is for 1 player, where you got boar and hireling to tank for you while you hit from afar.
Other than that, its not very good.

There are more details for the skills (especially the weapon dmg scaling percentage) in the official site.
It says companion does 30% dmg (wolf does 60%), so pretty much not worth it other than keeping your enemy busy.

If you analyze it from dps pov, it does damage, which is arguably very offensive for a defensive skill, if you are "the best defense is good offense" kind of guy.

btw
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If not, later when you face waller/vortex enemy will gg.
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like dat huh??
this looks worrying, first i got confuse with DEX or DEX+VIT now this..
man D3 is sooo interesting!

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ May 18 2012, 05:26 PM)
btw
Late game dh needs lifeleech so desperately, either through skills or weapon properties.
If not, later when you face waller/vortex enemy will gg.
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No need. Just need to manage your positioning well. I don't die to waller or vortex. Its those buggers that charge and teleport that are hell >: (

You try to fight them on Hell mode when they have 100k+ health fuuuu
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 18 2012, 05:27 PM)
i think i made u confused,  tongue.gif
it's the animal companion i meant.
the one where we get when using our skill..
what does it do??
seems useless  rclxub.gif


Added on May 18, 2012, 5:29 pm
like dat huh??
this looks worrying, first i got confuse with DEX or DEX+VIT now this..
man D3 is sooo interesting!
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I went DEX all the way for Act 2 only but it wasn't enough for the last boss in that act.

Died in 1 hit ):



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DH is the best gold farmer!
u wont miss a single gold coin ok!

i got these 2 ferret companion that attack + auto pickup the gold loot!
awesome man!!!
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Meh, ferrets are crap. Negligible damage and I have a pickup range of like 22 yards.
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I only just realized how important +magic find is after bosses drop lame loots 3 runs in.
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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ May 19 2012, 02:54 AM)
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Apparently doesn't work in later difficulties. The current solo method in Hell is Electric Bola + Impale. With 1H-XB you can throw 3 bolas 1 impale alternating for maximum DPS. All things considered that Act IV has the easiest boss..well I'll find out soon.

Also Sharpshooter + Impale = 25k crit lmao.
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Invulnerable+health link elites = fuuuuuu...
demon hunter being a ranged hero cant do a damn thing.

the only workaround is fear, will temporarily break the invulnerability.


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for my DH build i'm trying to follow this guide < what you think add me + messege to cinfirm LYN member TQ

http://www.diablo3-levelingguide.com/diabl...leveling-guide/
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Recent upgrade to my gear yielded quite a substantial improvement to my DPS.

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Soloed Azmodan in <1 minute.

P.S: That is without sharpshooter.

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DH need some INT in hell and inferno mode right? For health globe.
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What does INT have to do with health gloves? Yes you will need INT.
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My damage is around 2.5k but when my fan of knives successfully hit enemy. My overall damage reduce to around 1.6k and slowly increase back. Is the skill meant to be that way?

Oh.. Not only fan of knives.. Don't know how my skill works.. doh.gif

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QUOTE(Amedion @ May 20 2012, 12:09 PM)
My damage is around 2.5k but when my fan of knives successfully hit enemy. My overall damage reduce to around 1.6k and slowly increase back. Is the skill meant to be that way?

Oh.. Not only fan of knives.. Don't know how my skill works..  doh.gif
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How does DH dps works??? I have same lvl 1h with same dps as 2h ....

so when i equip my 1h x 2, it is far better than 2h + quiver?




QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 20 2012, 01:37 AM)
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P.S: That is without sharpshooter.
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It calculates damage, crit, crit damage, attack speed. The damage from the off-hand weapon doesn't count to my knowledge, you only gain a 15% IAS boost which is why dual wielding yields lower damage.
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Dual wield yield more dmg, thats my whole story.
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QUOTE(dopp @ May 20 2012, 11:24 PM)
Dual wield yield more dmg, thats my whole story.
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There has been no instance where my damage has gone up as a result of dual wielding. Maybe when I get 2 800dps crossbows we'll see.
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lv38 demon hunter any skill recommande ? i keep die on nightmare mode
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QUOTE(mr11 @ May 21 2012, 03:35 AM)
lv38 demon hunter any skill recommande ? i keep die on nightmare mode
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That thing is basically a godsend to any Demon Hunters.

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solo'ed all the way up to hell.. so tired of kiting now =.=
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Is % magic drop important?
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never wear any mf gears.. maybe i should...

helps getting rare gears = more money/more material.. quite important i think, but if u stack too much ur dmg gets lame
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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 21 2012, 09:47 AM)
never wear any mf gears.. maybe i should...

helps getting rare gears = more money/more material.. quite important i think, but if u stack too much ur dmg gets lame
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if magic find stack up till 100% means every drop from monster will be a magic items and above?
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my 20khp + 1k armor + 3.1k (with passive crit skill) = paper in Hell act 1 :'(
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QUOTE(FireSnake @ May 21 2012, 10:02 AM)
if magic find stack up till 100% means every drop from monster will be a magic items and above?
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nop, it only mean +100% from the standard drop rate.

Let's say the standard drop rate is 5%, so +100% means that you'll get 10% drop rate
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level 57, 14k hp, damage 6k+, def 1.2k, rate of fire 1.9
i still died many times in Hell.
no problem soloing in Nightmare before. sad.gif
using Evasive Fire + Covering Fire Mouse 1
and Elemental Arrow + Screaming Skull on Mouse 2
last time i spam these two in Nightmare really easy.
any advice to improve my DH..
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waste money mad.gif
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QUOTE(Kyl3 @ May 20 2012, 05:39 PM)
Do you have 'Steady aim' as your passive?
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gameplay and builds aside, i wonder why shadow powers give you a pair of mini angel wings. whats the story behind it.
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what the purpose of shadow power?
i never use it =.="
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 21 2012, 11:38 AM)
what the purpose of shadow power?
i never use it =.="
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Draw in the power of the shadows, gaining 20% of all damage done as Life for 3 seconds wink.gif
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 21 2012, 11:38 AM)
what the purpose of shadow power?
i never use it =.="
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3 seconds of lifeleech lol. can give u back chunks of life esp if u time it well with enemies stepping on ur spike trap laugh.gif
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QUOTE(JunRio @ May 21 2012, 11:47 AM)
any u guy using marked of death skill? brows.gif
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not me. single target damage increase. prolly good for boss fights i dunno.

QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 21 2012, 11:47 AM)
3 seconds onli?? cry.gif
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any1 willing to give their guest pass or even sell them ~_~ ?

Do pm me..want to try it out..its either D3 or Torchlight 2..

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lv 40 DH reporting in lol, so far still crawling my way through every dungeon in nightmare (act 2 currently)

skill build:
left mouse: hungering arrow with split rune
right mouse: entangling shot with chain gang rune
1: chakram (twin chakram)
2: vault (no discipline, but with cooldown)
3: invi (with longer timing, forgot what the skill is named lol)
4: rain of vengeance

well i do think this build isn't optimal at any way, still need tweaking imo...
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QUOTE(jasonbourne222 @ May 21 2012, 11:52 AM)
any1 willing to give their guest pass or even sell them ~_~ ?

Do pm me..want to try it out..its either D3 or Torchlight 2..

Thanks
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QUOTE(JunRio @ May 21 2012, 11:55 AM)
marked of death + Valley of Death rune  brows.gif
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i am lvl 30 now as dh, now in starting act 4.. any recomeneded build? dual wield now
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i am lvl 30 now as dh, now in starting act 4.. any recomeneded build? dual wield now
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ May 21 2012, 11:54 AM)
lv 40 DH reporting in lol, so far still crawling my way through every dungeon in nightmare (act 2 currently)

skill build:
left mouse: hungering arrow with split rune
right mouse: entangling shot with chain gang rune
1: chakram (twin chakram)
2: vault (no discipline, but with cooldown)
3: invi (with longer timing, forgot what the skill is named lol)
4: rain of vengeance

well i do think this build isn't optimal at any way, still need tweaking imo...
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How do you put Chakram into slot 1? Mine is on right mouse.

Level 20 DH here.
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QUOTE(ProX @ May 21 2012, 01:40 PM)
How do you put Chakram into slot 1? Mine is on right mouse.

Level 20 DH here.
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elective mode bro
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which 1 best armor for DH...Cloak Or the standard armor?cuz the cloak has higher def lol
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who have dual handed bow DPS > 300?
the higher the better..
sell to me in RM pl0x!
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QUOTE(ac_N1 @ May 21 2012, 10:38 AM)
nop, it only mean +100% from the standard drop rate.

Let's say the standard drop rate is 5%, so +100% means that you'll get 10% drop rate
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Means that this magic find attribute is kinda crappy la?
So far my max magic find is like 71%, but i do have lots of blue color items drop from monster, yellow one also a few. so far, din get any legendary.

So, do you think is worth to keep magic find?
As this game is all about finding gears.
Gears determine how powerful you are.
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but in inferno.. everyone stack mf = taking forever to kill.. long term wise probably not efficient also.. need to seek a balance between dmg and mf i guess
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QUOTE(ProX @ May 21 2012, 01:40 PM)
How do you put Chakram into slot 1? Mine is on right mouse.

Level 20 DH here.
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Go Option> Gameplay> tick elective mode.
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What are you guys getting on inferno?
I tried to look for set items for dh, but they are so meh.

So, was wondering if anyone have any legendary gears on mind.
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f me. I caved in and purchased a 840dps weapon for 2m.

At least it was worth the upgrade. Act II Inferno elites are relatively easy now.
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so regarding the smoke screen, which rune you guys prefer: longer invi time or less discipline require to cast?
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ May 21 2012, 09:51 PM)
so regarding the smoke screen, which rune you guys prefer: longer invi time or less discipline require to cast?
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Do the math. 1 sec is worth 7 discipline. Which is more efficient to take?
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after coming from monk, wah demon hunter super adjustment leh. monk is like teleport in to the middle of the mobs and whack whack whack, DH need to keep far away. in Act3 now getting frustrated by all those super fast mobs, can't kill them in time, can't slow them sufficiently sad.gif
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Added on May 22, 2012, 9:39 amand Vault to get the hell out of there laugh.gif

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DPS upgrade after some crucial purchases, most notably my hand crossbow which cost me a whopping 2m. Act I Inferno is basically like Normal mode for me now.

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Act II however, is a totally different ballpark. Nothing will help you survive there.

Edit: 197% MF is with Nephalem Valor 5 and Fortune.

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ May 21 2012, 04:08 PM)
Go Option> Gameplay> tick elective mode.
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Thank for this tip man. I always thought the skills were preset lol!

Quick question guys, once I socket an item, can the gem be removed? Or it's like D2 and cant be removed once socketed.

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QUOTE(fawked @ May 22 2012, 10:23 AM)
Thank for this tip man. I always thought the skills were preset lol!

Quick question guys, once I socket an item, can the gem be removed? Or it's like D2 and cant be removed once socketed.
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Can, anytime @ Covetous Shen and its cheap. Don't worry about removing as Perfect Squares (R8) drop by the boatloads in higher difficulties smile.gif
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Added on May 22, 2012, 10:33 amwalao, my armor currently 1.7k only and HP is 19k in Hell, need to find those high damage weapons & eq sad.gif

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QUOTE(monza84 @ May 22 2012, 10:32 AM)
^i gave away all those perfect and radiant ones laugh.gif


Added on May 22, 2012, 10:33 amwalao, my armor currently 1.7k only and HP is 19k in Hell, need to find those high damage weapons & eq sad.gif
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I have too many sleep.gif Might just trash the lower grade ones and save money to upgrade to R14. Both my smith and shen are 10 so..but 20k per gem is mad. I have too many slots to fill sad.gif
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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 22 2012, 10:11 AM)
DPS upgrade after some crucial purchases, most notably my hand crossbow which cost me a whopping 2m. Act I Inferno is basically like Normal mode for me now.

user posted image

Act II however, is a totally different ballpark. Nothing will help you survive there.

Edit: 197% MF is with Nephalem Valor 5 and Fortune.
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Pfff.... that some dmg you had.

Anyway, dual hand crossbow vs crossbow + quiver, which one is better ?
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QUOTE(azmie_83 @ May 22 2012, 10:55 AM)
Pfff.... that some dmg you had.

Anyway, dual hand crossbow vs crossbow + quiver, which one is better ?
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Depends. What do you intend to do? Quivers can get higher crit rate from a legendary quiver.

Dual Crossbows have better speed. If you plan to use on hit effects like life on hit, then obviously this is better.
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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 22 2012, 10:11 AM)
DPS upgrade after some crucial purchases, most notably my hand crossbow which cost me a whopping 2m. Act I Inferno is basically like Normal mode for me now.

user posted image

Act II however, is a totally different ballpark. Nothing will help you survive there.

Edit: 197% MF is with Nephalem Valor 5 and Fortune.
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nice build!
u're doing full dex i see.
how much is the crossbow damage bro?
i prefer dual handed bow than crossbow.
coz crossbow is the slowest attack speed.
my total attack speed now with bow = 2.25
total damage for my DH only 11k
bow already 430DPS
got 500DPS bow meh? hmm.gif
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Dual wield crossbow = looks cooler + more crits brows.gif
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 22 2012, 11:02 AM)
nice build!
u're doing full dex i see.
how much is the crossbow damage bro?
i prefer dual handed bow than crossbow.
coz crossbow is the slowest attack speed.
my total attack speed now with bow = 2.25
total damage for my DH only 11k
bow already 430DPS
got 500DPS bow meh?  hmm.gif
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You should go full DEX too. After Act II Inferno, there is no point to stacking VIT because everything will kill you in one hit. A person I know who is a 60 Barbarian in Act IV Inferno said he too cannot tank anything past Act I. DEX contributes to dodge which at least gives you a chance to survive.

My 1H Crossbow has 840.8 DPS. The stats on it were worth the price though. DEX, damage% and life on hit.
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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 22 2012, 11:15 AM)
You should go full DEX too. After Act II Inferno, there is no point to stacking VIT because everything will kill you in one hit. A person I know who is a 60 Barbarian in Act IV Inferno said he too cannot tank anything past Act I. DEX contributes to dodge which at least gives you a chance to survive.

My 1H Crossbow has 840.8 DPS. The stats on it were worth the price though. DEX, damage% and life on hit.
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how much is ur total attack speed bro?
do u wear anything that increased ur attack speed?

p/s: oh u're using a 1 handed crossbow! i tot its the 2 handed one coz it is damn slow

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so any DH actually solo inferno? found it kinda impossible
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 22 2012, 11:21 AM)
how much is ur total attack speed bro?
do u wear anything that increased ur attack speed?

p/s: oh u're using a 1 handed crossbow! i tot its the 2 handed one coz it is damn slow
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2.19 attacks per second I think. I'll check for you when I wake up as I have an exam in..12 hours. Don't worry about weapon type unless you specifically want to trigger the Archery bonus. Just use the one which has the best damage yield for yourself.
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which passive skills worth considering ?

I m taking
Archery (+50% damage for crossbow critical)
Brooding (heal 1% off total hp after 3 sec not taking damage)
Vengeance (Hatred max+25, and filling up a bit when taking health globe)

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i think archery is a must.. other 2 all flexible.. steady aim hardly works though.. even in coop mobs come to u when u deal too much dmg... some even teleport right in front

sharpshooter pretty awesome too

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im using archery, then the one that do bonus damage if u attack from 10yards, and the one that does bonus damage to slowed enemy
when there an incoming hordes of demon what i did:

1. put the jagged spikes trap
2. put the sentry with rockets
3. backflip
4. spam Evasive Fire + Covering Fire from far
5. also use Elemental Arrow + Screaming skull incase few mobs get pass the trap.. lol

all died and very shiok~
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what difficulty are u in now? Hell elite packs are so damn frustrating.. especially in dungeon where u have no place to kite.. spam frost field/throw fireballs/multiplication in small area =.=
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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 22 2012, 02:49 PM)
what difficulty are u in now? Hell elite packs are so damn frustrating.. especially in dungeon where u have no place to kite.. spam frost field/throw fireballs/multiplication in small area =.=
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Lol Azmodan? I did 5 runs and say fk it =.=

now stopped at level 57 power leveling my friends so I can play coop again
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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 22 2012, 03:01 PM)
Lol Azmodan? I did 5 runs and say fk it =.=

now stopped at level 57 power leveling my friends so I can play coop again
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yeah... azmodan level was easy laugh.gif
btw bro, u wanna go to lvl60 1st before meeting diablo in Hell or just proceed.
diablo shouldn't be a problem with i guess..
1 barb 1 monk should do the trick lol!
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lvl59 ... just done with Hell Diablo
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QUOTE(jiidaineko @ May 22 2012, 03:11 PM)
lvl59 ... just done with Hell Diablo
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Meh, death toll rune on mark of death is useless :/ rather get the hatred generation
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QUOTE(zeronova @ May 22 2012, 04:55 PM)
Meh, death toll rune on mark of death is useless :/ rather get the hatred generation
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agreed, 12% is nothing, u still need to use a slot for that skill, i would pick others unless its like 25%, just too little benefit for 1 extra slot, and you have to mark it first, i wont do that, as i love to use rapid fire and random shooting, marking is pain.
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cant wait to have a dps like that
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QUOTE(narf03 @ May 22 2012, 05:12 PM)
agreed, 12% is nothing, u still need to use a slot for that skill, i would pick others unless its like 25%, just too little benefit for 1 extra slot, and you have to mark it first, i wont do that, as i love to use rapid fire and random shooting, marking is pain.
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what i meant is instead of using death toll rune, use mortal enemy rune instead
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yeah! me too!
just wait till RMAH comes out.
imma gonna make 30k DPS lol!
so hard to buy good gear in auction house.
not enuff gold
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For the 2X1H VS 2H+QUIVER argument, googled and found this
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5235395357

My dual handbow has lower dmg, but Im not that unhappy.
Currently stacking crit+attack speed+crit dmg to mitigate for the lack of raw dps.

My handbows averages at 500dmg, but with socket on both handbow, they have a max crit dmg potential of +200%, so I should be okay. ( I think? lul tongue.gif )




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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ May 22 2012, 06:25 PM)
For the  2X1H VS 2H+QUIVER argument, googled and found this
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5235395357

My dual handbow has lower dmg, but Im not that unhappy.
Currently stacking crit+attack speed+crit dmg to mitigate for the lack of raw dps.

My handbows averages at 500dmg, but with socket on both handbow, they have a max crit dmg potential of +200%, so I should be okay. (  I think? lul  tongue.gif  )
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Haven't compared 2X1H or 2H+Q directly in terms of DPS.. but my personal taste will go for 2X1H..
Looks cool and the fast-attack-speed-bom-bom sound is nice drool.gif laugh.gif
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DH reporting in!. SIR!!! cool2.gif  cool2.gif
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haha hi zapris.. u also DH! rclxms.gif


Added on May 23, 2012, 2:31 amJust solo'ed Hell Belial.. so intense!

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DH reporting in ...

finally down diablo after 12 years ...
conclusion, bellial is stronger than diablo, at least made me died.
but diablo many pattern ...

basicaly, i can survive becoz of smoke screen ...
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diablo is so addictive.
Even after leaving game, spent 1 hour on the auction house without realizing. sweat.gif

My current build for hell.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demo...;YeT!YcZZcY

Nether tentacles are not primarily for the lifesteal, but mostly against bosses/huge enemies that can be hit by multiple instances of the tentacles.
Also great against those pesky elite who hides behind invulnerable minions. thumbup.gif
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need to decide a build for nephalem valor buff


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diablo is so addictive.
Even after leaving game, spent 1 hour on the auction house without realizing.  sweat.gif

My current build for hell.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demo...;YeT!YcZZcY

Nether tentacles are not primarily for the lifesteal, but mostly against bosses/huge enemies that can be hit by multiple instances of the tentacles.
Also great against those pesky elite who hides behind invulnerable minions.  thumbup.gif
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What is the bat for? just hatred regen? haha

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How come DH is so bad in nightmare

I'm at Act3, lvl 46
DPS 1.4k
armor 1.2k
hp around 8k

need to regem all items with emerald
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DH not really bad.. just gotta cc and kite a lot.. but that's ranger's nature isn't it.. i'm just annoyed with those elite packs spamming walls and fireballs especially in small space dungeons..

by the way, i tried stacking vitality.. not really helping.. might as well stack dex kill them before they reach.. or dodge the attacks smile.gif

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But CC is not worth it anymore on inferno mode sad.gif
and small lag spikes and we are gone
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some elite mobs run like a 100m olympic champ =.=
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QUOTE(nairud @ May 23 2012, 11:41 AM)
How come DH is so bad in nightmare

I'm at Act3, lvl 46
DPS 1.4k
armor 1.2k
hp around 8k

need to regem all items with emerald
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I only find Nightmare easy once my DH hit 14k hp and 12.9k DPS
.....and even that I'm now struggling in Hell Act 1. rclxub.gif
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ok so now im at lvl 60,
hp 22k
DPS 18k
armor 1.8k
attack speed 2.48

my question, can this build survive in inferno..
it's quite fragile, i bet 1-2 hit from elite sure die.
so whoever already reach inferno, do u guys all focus on DPS?
or need to up vit abit?

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so far i only farming gold in act 3-4 Hell..
very easy.. lol.. critical till 52k lol
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 23 2012, 01:55 PM)
ok so now im at lvl 60,
hp 22k
DPS 18k
armor 1.8k
attack speed 2.48

my question, can this build survive in inferno..
it's quite fragile, i bet 1-2 hit from elite sure die.
so whoever already reach inferno, do u guys all focus on DPS?
or need to up vit abit?

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so far i only farming gold in act 3-4 Hell..
very easy.. lol.. critical till 52k lol
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yes no build will make u survive getting hit.. u can't get hit at all lol..
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Any DH use Templar as follower here? What's the recommended skill build for it?
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Any DH use Templar as follower here? What's the recommended skill build for it?
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a lot of DH using templar.
I think is a great combo.
Myself using DH pairing with templar is a great pair.

skills: heal, loyalty, charge, guardian.

3 defensive skills + 1 offensive skill shd keep DH safe.


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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 23 2012, 01:59 PM)
You will die in Inferno Act II regardless of how you build your character. This is a fact, period.
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then how leh..
Skel King chao hai damn keng.. vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif

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Wow 18k damage... How can you get so high damage? Now only ive managed to achieved 2k for lvl 46.... Will it increase alot once i reach 60? Or need to really source for those imba items
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need to decide a build for nephalem valor buff


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What is the bat for? just hatred regen? haha
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my build no problem in retaining valor. brows.gif
Ya, the bat is for hatred regen.Some even went as far as 0 hatred regen skill with bat+some hatred regen gear(nether tentacles is that good), but for that you need to have 2 positioning skill+prep as a buffer for your hatred to fill up.

I prefer maxing out the dmg out put.

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QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ May 23 2012, 04:05 PM)
Wow 18k damage... How can you get so high damage? Now only ive managed to achieved 2k for lvl 46.... Will it increase alot once i reach 60? Or need to really source for those imba items
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bow already +670 dps
then most of my stuff 17% increase attack speed..
so DPS also increase
but then armor like milo tin only..
really2 fragile

my stuff all cheap one bought in action 100-150k
at leavet 50+ easy for u to get gold so need to worry smile.gif

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Need an upgrade to my gears liao.. farm gold sapu AH!!
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I only find Nightmare easy once my DH hit 14k hp and 12.9k DPS
.....and even that I'm now struggling in Hell Act 1.  rclxub.gif
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dude how you get 12k DPS in Nightmare? notworthy.gif
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I wanna try to get my attack speed up to 3 per sec+33% crit.
See if I can get a permacrit. tongue.gif

Now sitting on 25% crit chance and 2.6 attack speed already so good.
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I think we should all be honest to each others that, neither any build will help DH from not being a milo tin and not dying XD And also unless you have a very great connection and not lag out, probably barely survive still.
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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 23 2012, 07:18 PM)
Smoke nerfed. GG
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QUOTE(xiaopuyo @ May 23 2012, 07:26 PM)
how you know o.O
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Duration dropped from 2(3 w/ lingering fog) to 1 (2). Go test it out.

Trust me I know my DH, and EU and Asia got the hit earlier than us.
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They still didnt fix the issue of items being delisted from search after someone bids on it. shakehead.gif

On one hand, was angry cos decreases my potential profit of my auctions.
But on the other hand, my bid on the bow that I want is now is in my hand cos it got delisted from search.mwahaha!

Try searching for items that you have bid.You might get lucky too being the only one who bids before it get delisted. icon_idea.gif
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They did
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Guys, i need some info regarding the lv60 skill that can increase ur mf% any idea how to get it as i already lv60. Sorry if this is a noob question.
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Guys, i need some info regarding the lv60 skill that can increase ur mf% any idea how to get it as i already lv60. Sorry if this is a noob question.
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Way 1: using yr best yellow gems to socket on yr helm.
Way 2: Equipped all MF items, skipped all other properties.

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Way 1: using yr best yellow gems to socket on yr helm.
Way 2: Equipped all MF items, skipped all other properties.

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Lol. I thought there is a skill called naphalem something which can increase the mf% ?
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Lol. I thought there is a skill called naphalem something which can increase the mf% ?
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u get nephalem valor buff whenever you kill a elite/champion packs (yellow or blue monsters pack).. each pack you kill give you 1 count of nephalem buff and they last for 30mins.. if you kil another pack within 30mins it will be 2x buff and you get a new 30mins timer.. it goes on and on so far I think max is 8 buff? Not sure how much mf% given per buff though..

Also if you change your skills, the buff will be gone.
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Lol. I thought there is a skill called naphalem something which can increase the mf% ?
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yes, there is. i heard is + by 75%. but is still very minimal.

if a legendary item drop is 0.5%, even u got like 200% (or more) MF also like 2% of possibility.

If not mistaken, the legendary drop is like super rare, only blizzard know the odds.

Is better to pile up yr gold first, buy from AH.

leave the MF for the last.

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QUOTE(FireSnake @ May 24 2012, 09:41 AM)
yes, there is. i heard is + by 75%. but is still very minimal.

if a legendary item drop is 0.5%, even u got like 200% (or more) MF also like 2% of possibility.

If not mistaken, the legendary drop is like super rare, only blizzard know the odds.

Is better to pile up yr gold first, buy from AH.

leave the MF for the last.
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Haha true thats wat im doing now. But still i curious to know how do they get it lol. Wats ur lv fire snake? Wanna party up tonight in hell act 3?
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Obligatory DPS update as at 24/05/2012. No Sharpshooter.

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Additionally, MF set:
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QUOTE(RedEclipse @ May 24 2012, 09:47 AM)
Haha true  thats wat im doing now. But still i curious to know how do they get it lol. Wats ur lv fire snake? Wanna party up tonight in hell act 3?
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wah, i'm the slow leveler. now only lvl 31. act 4 normal.
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Last night played with friends with lvl 50 char, my DH just lvl 44 and they playing Act 3 in nightmare mode. I realize vit+dex build can barely survive the assult from elite mob, one hit nearly KO, if kena mortar, instant death. My hp around 8k and dps around 1.8k, damn stress playing. Maybe the mob are stronger due to my friends lvl, tonight gonna try with someone my lvl see can survive or not.

Should I continue vit+dex item or pure dex enhancing item? Vit+dex is a expensive build to create sad.gif
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vit might be good choice i think.. i play in Hell with 12k hp.. white mob suddenly pop and hantam me already 20% hp left =.=
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QUOTE(Kriish @ May 24 2012, 11:43 AM)
Level 60 DH reporting in. Currently just farming Inferno Butcher runs for gold. Act 2 can't do it no matter how I upgrade my gear. Guess I just take it slow now.
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same here..
Act 2 is just too much.. =.=
i keep farming gold / stuffs in Act 1 laugh.gif
but if farm gold at act 3 Hell much more easiser and faster..
coz monsters are weaker than Inferno..
but the gold dropping not too bad.. icon_idea.gif
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As I mentioned earlier, there is no possible way to survive an Act II elite's hit unless you have Act IV / Pony gears or exploited the Resplendent Chest.

Even with my 45% mitigation + 40% resistances, I die in one hit to everything.

My suggestion is not to rush Inferno because you CAN NOT get past it without dying like seven billion times. Its doable, but it will take a lot of deaths to get done right.
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I just finish nightmare yesterday but with lv48, die hundreds time with 6k HP , it just either 1 or 2 hit from anything.
Currently pure dex build with 3.5k DPS, any suggestion to enter Hell mode ?
I heard my monk tanker die in 2~3 hits inside hell mode with 15k+ hp =.=
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QUOTE(make87 @ May 24 2012, 01:18 PM)
I just finish nightmare yesterday but with lv48, die hundreds time with 6k HP , it just either 1 or 2 hit from anything.
Currently pure dex build with 3.5k DPS, any suggestion to enter Hell mode ?
I heard my monk tanker die in 2~3 hits inside hell mode with 15k+ hp =.=
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not to mention that your hp 6k already die many time in NM . u should put more vits . lolz

i would like to try 4 coop nightmare for better equipment first
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Meh...I can't deal with the BS reflection of Elites. And I'm too poor to afford anything else :/

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No sharpshooter.
With sharpshooter on, I'm doing some 40-50k (non-crit) and 50-100k+ (crit) DPS using NT, but god the reflection always get myself instagibbed lol. I have only 12k hp but honestly more hp doesn't looks like its going to help much. The nerf on the SS sure sucks.

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QUOTE(make87 @ May 24 2012, 01:18 PM)
I just finish nightmare yesterday but with lv48, die hundreds time with 6k HP , it just either 1 or 2 hit from anything.
Currently pure dex build with 3.5k DPS, any suggestion to enter Hell mode ?
I heard my monk tanker die in 2~3 hits inside hell mode with 15k+ hp =.=
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u solo or coop? i also died many times coop with a friend(wiz). kinda hard not to have melee/tank. at least i can pewpew freely =.=
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one here!just started hell..lvl 57

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QUOTE(mfr2908 @ May 24 2012, 02:39 PM)
one here!just started hell..lvl 57
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lvl 57 just start hell??

I ngam ngam 50 ady chiong helll~~ but toufo. rclxub.gif
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today start inferno @_@" pain is awaiting
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QUOTE(kadS @ May 24 2012, 02:36 PM)
u solo or coop? i also died many times coop with a friend(wiz). kinda hard not to have melee/tank. at least i can pewpew freely =.=
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I realized that without Barb or Monk, DH can barely survive a coop with another range attacker. At earlier level no problem but when getting into Act 3 nightmare mode, my and my wizard friend keep kena tapao-ed by elite. My wiz fren already buff with armor and vit build but still cannot tank so much while i keep SS and run away laugh.gif

Misses alot of game time due to work load, how I wish I'm 20 y.o right now.
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QUOTE(kadS @ May 24 2012, 02:36 PM)
u solo or coop? i also died many times coop with a friend(wiz). kinda hard not to have melee/tank. at least i can pewpew freely =.=
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coop with monk+barb+wd , monk & wd tank while me & barb pew pew all around the screen
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lvl 57 just start hell??

I ngam ngam 50 ady chiong helll~~ but toufo. rclxub.gif
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Solo the Nightmare with DH level 52

4.5k DPS / 15k HP

Tips :
Unify + Ultra Graphic Card
2 Hand Crossbow + Quiver for Max and Stable Skill Dmg
Use jugged trap to mass kill and ultra fast regen ( with life steal on bow )
Use preparation for instant 60% hp heal
Sentry + Dark Cloud to suck even more blood.

DH consider the most effective blood sucker class in Diablo 3.
Many blood sucking skill.

Dont use dual-wield crossbow, you trade everything for just for little atk speed gain.........


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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 24 2012, 03:57 PM)
Solo the Nightmare with DH level 52

4.5k DPS / 15k HP

Tips :
Unify + Ultra Graphic Card
2 Hand Crossbow + Quiver for Max and Stable Skill Dmg
Use jugged trap to mass kill and ultra fast regen ( with life steal on bow )
Use preparation for instant 60% hp heal
Sentry + Dark Cloud to suck even more blood.

DH consider the most effective blood sucker class in Diablo 3.
Many blood sucking skill.

Dont use dual-wield crossbow, you trade everything for just for little atk speed gain.........
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nice

using dual wield now, mybe try change to 2h bow later. always wanted dual wield coz they look cooler cool2.gif
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 24 2012, 03:57 PM)
Solo the Nightmare with DH level 52

4.5k DPS / 15k HP

Tips :
Unify + Ultra Graphic Card
2 Hand Crossbow + Quiver for Max and Stable Skill Dmg
Use jugged trap to mass kill and ultra fast regen ( with life steal on bow )
Use preparation for instant 60% hp heal
Sentry + Dark Cloud to suck even more blood.

DH consider the most effective blood sucker class in Diablo 3.
Many blood sucking skill.

Dont use dual-wield crossbow, you trade everything for just for little atk speed gain.........
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prefer using 2-hand bow rather than crossbow..faster..and of course..jagged trap really usefull..and when paired with fan of knives..can gain almost 2000+experience at one time..

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Any high-level DH with decent/godly damage range which dual wields 1-handed crossbow? Need some motivation for little DH here to stay with dual-wield tongue.gif
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Any high-level DH with decent/godly damage range which dual wields 1-handed crossbow? Need some motivation for little DH here to stay with dual-wield tongue.gif
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Sorry nope. Hand crossbow dmg too unstable, eg 18~108....

you can stay cool before hell level. Once you enter hell level, Hand crossbow really sucks.....
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go for 2-handed bow, seriously devastating! laugh.gif
but i change my gameplay in Inferno.
play jagged spike, the bomb trap, mark for death + puncturing arrow & impale

critical sometimes till 60k so naise!
and..

kite kite kite kite

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dual wields only useful with the proc on hit element on weapon.
for DPS is still better go for + quiver build
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 24 2012, 04:14 PM)
Sorry nope. Hand crossbow dmg too unstable, eg 18~108....

you can stay cool before hell level. Once you enter hell level, Hand crossbow really sucks.....
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sorry, one noob question here: what is mean by elective mode?

how to do it?
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sorry, one noob question here: what is mean by elective mode?

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Option > Gameplay > tick the checkbox to enable elective mode

it will allow you to put whatever skill u like at ur skill bar..

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Option > Gameplay > tick the checkbox to enable elective mode

it will allow you to put whatever skill u like at ur skill bar..
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Any high-level DH with decent/godly damage range which dual wields 1-handed crossbow? Need some motivation for little DH here to stay with dual-wield tongue.gif
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I dont know about decent, but currently working towards it.

You need to remember, dual wield always gives better crit,better attack speed and better effect on proc chance.
Sharpshooter and archery is a must.

So never lose out on +attack speed on your bows and preferably dual wield socketed weapons so that you can boost your crit by +200% endgame.
Both my handbow have +15% ias, 2% stun chance (total 4%) and have sockets. hehe


Currently doing act 1 inferno just fine, defeated leoric but not quite sure about act 2 yet sweat.gif


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btw if u play dual wield, is it matter to put on which slot? i mean main hand/off hand
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QUOTE(kadS @ May 24 2012, 05:31 PM)
btw if u play dual wield, is it matter to put on which slot? i mean main hand/off hand
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QUOTE(kadS @ May 24 2012, 05:31 PM)
btw if u play dual wield, is it matter to put on which slot? i mean main hand/off hand
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Doesnt matter.Both also can. brows.gif
Btw, there is a bug where if you dual wield, the +attack speed wont properly calculated.
you need to check whether or not you get the right attack speed boost.

You can fix it by simply re equipping your bows.

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 24 2012, 04:14 PM)
Sorry nope. Hand crossbow dmg too unstable, eg 18~108....

you can stay cool before hell level. Once you enter hell level, Hand crossbow really sucks.....
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 24 2012, 04:14 PM)
go for 2-handed bow, seriously devastating! laugh.gif
but i change my gameplay in Inferno.
play jagged spike, the bomb trap, mark for death + puncturing arrow & impale

critical sometimes till 60k so naise!
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QUOTE(make87 @ May 24 2012, 04:15 PM)
dual wields only useful with the proc on hit element on weapon.
for DPS is still better go for + quiver build
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How about single handbow + quiver for faster ASPD, if compared with a 2H Bow + quiver / 2H Crossbow + quiver?


QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ May 24 2012, 04:55 PM)
I dont know about decent, but currently working towards it.

You need to remember, dual wield always gives better crit,better attack speed and better effect on proc chance.
Sharpshooter and archery is a must.

So never lose out on +attack speed on your bows and preferably dual wield socketed weapons so that you can boost your crit by +200% endgame.
Both my handbow have +15% ias, 2% stun chance (total 4%) and have sockets. hehe
Currently doing act 1 inferno just fine, defeated leoric but not quite sure about act 2 yet  sweat.gif
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Hmm seems that we must utilise Attack speed % and hit-on effects well for Dual-wield to be useful? Nehmind.. still a long way for me to go.. laugh.gif
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Handbow + Quiver if you're aiming to proc Nightstalker. DH can still operate with the SS nerf, you just need to be smart and Tactical Advantage is mandatory now.


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Most expensive item I spent was 400k boots on AH since it was the last item for me to get within reasonable price range, but everything else was below 120k gold! keke, cheapskate build here. Can't understand how people can save up millions and or spend millions.

1. SS
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3. Prep [Invigor]
4. Cluster Arrow [Loaded for Bear] Hitting 60k avg AOE + 25k residual bombs
5. Hungering Arrow [Devouring], Hitting for 25k avg
6. Impale [Overpenetration] Hitting 60k avg

Vengeance, Steady Aim, Grenadier

I'm probably the rare Cluster Arrow user, but I find it great for crowd control and pack runs happen faster when I blow white mobs away real quick. Working great with Grenadier -10 hatred cost. The downside is distance, I think it has 85% reach, so for the rest I use Impale.

2H Crossbow + Quiver is my choice, I find quick attack speed useless since I'm mostly running around and kiting, so high base attack is better since it makes Impale and Cluster more powerful.

Also Dodge at 43% save my butt so many times tongue.gif

Anyway I'm taking a rest, moving on from here means few days of mindless farming, not worth it, gave up a week of my life and I think that's enough icon_rolleyes.gif

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Most expensive item I spent was 400k boots on AH since it was the last item for me to get within reasonable price range, but everything else was below 120k gold! keke, cheapskate build here. Can't understand how people can save up millions and or spend millions.

1. SS
2. Companion [Bat] (for Hatred)
3. Prep [Invigor]
4. Cluster Arrow [Loaded for Bear] Hitting 50k avg AOE + 25k residual bombs
5. Hungering Arrow [Devouring], Hitting for 20k avg
6. Impale [Overpenetration] Hitting 50k avg

Vengeance, Steady Aim, Grenadier

I'm probably the rare Cluster Arrow user, but I find it great for crowd control and pack runs happen faster when I blow white mobs away real quick. Working great with Grenadier -10 hatred cost. The downside is distance, I think it has 85% reach, so for the rest I use Impale.

2H Crossbow + Quiver is my choice, I find quick attack speed useless since I'm mostly running around and kiting, so high base attack is better since it makes Impale and Cluster more powerful.

Also Dodge at 43% save my butt so many times  tongue.gif

Anyway I'm taking a rest, moving on from here means few days of mindless farming, not worth it, gave up a week of my life and I think that's enough icon_rolleyes.gif
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So with the SS nerfed how do you guys beat inferno champion mobs?
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I started Demon Hunter few days ago hmm.gif not entirely playing it but now playing bit by bit... Anyone has got low level equip for me? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ May 25 2012, 01:50 AM)
I started Demon Hunter few days ago hmm.gif not entirely playing it but now playing bit by bit... Anyone has got low level equip for me? tongue.gif
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what is yr level now?
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low lvl equip all in tong sampah biggrin.gif


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some DH with awersome gears.. 360k crits drool.gif

Must be with impale i guess.. and 2h xbow burst..

Keep myself motivated even though getting one shot over n over again in inferno cry.gif

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man im having trouble surviving in nightmare, am level 40 and i think my DPS is kinda low, about 700++ .. can ya guys post up ya equipments list? feel like mine is kinda weak!
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QUOTE(Jehuty @ May 25 2012, 10:32 AM)
man im having trouble surviving in nightmare, am level 40 and i think my DPS is kinda low, about 700++ .. can ya guys post up ya equipments list? feel like mine is kinda weak!
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level 40.. i think i had 1k+.. some pretty good weapons though.. try to search for blue weapons on AH.. usually quite cheap and good
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QUOTE(FireSnake @ May 25 2012, 08:42 AM)
what is yr level now?
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Level 56 DH reporting in smile.gif
Currently unable to get pass Act 2 Blood and Sand(Hell mode).
Anyone willing to help? add me Without#1801 or leave ur Battle Tag here.

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QUOTE(Without @ May 25 2012, 03:46 PM)
Level 56 DH reporting in smile.gif
Currently unable to get pass Act 2 Blood and Sand.
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hell?
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hell?
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edited the previous post.
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QUOTE(Jehuty @ May 25 2012, 10:32 AM)
man im having trouble surviving in nightmare, am level 40 and i think my DPS is kinda low, about 700++ .. can ya guys post up ya equipments list? feel like mine is kinda weak!
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Grab some nice & cheap deals from AH... I'm level 31, just completed Normal Mode but haven't continue playing yet... with about 1.2k~1.3k damage.
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QUOTE(Without @ May 25 2012, 03:49 PM)
Yes, hell mode  doh.gif
edited the previous post.
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nbtd now, i purely DPS tho, gogogo
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add DrLaboo#1770
nbtd now, i purely DPS tho, gogogo
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I've added you ingame. rclxms.gif
btw i'm playing Asia region.
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QUOTE(Without @ May 25 2012, 03:55 PM)
I've added you ingame.  rclxms.gif
btw i'm playing Asia region.
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too baddd~ sweat.gif
im on US
asia i got Monk lvl 6 kekekee
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 25 2012, 04:56 PM)
too baddd~  sweat.gif
im on US
asia i got Monk lvl 6 kekekee
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Most of the player from malaysia playing US region?
I tot it'll be smooth in Asia server?
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Most of the player from malaysia playing US region?
I tot it'll be smooth in Asia server?
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get korea vpn then asia no problem
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QUOTE(Xenn @ May 25 2012, 05:01 PM)
get korea vpn then asia no problem
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Thanks for info, i think i should start over in US region biggrin.gif

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Fuuu...
I was too confident.Turns out you cant dual wield the same legendary.
Now need to resell and get a new bow.

Just a heads up for those who eyeing to stack dual legendary rings too.You might not be able to do so too.
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it did say unique equipped.
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Ive read some post on the official forum saying that bonuses from gems dont effect weapon on the off-hand, but it does. sweat.gif
Tried it myself with both ruby and emerald.

Ppl also said +attack speed on the offhand doesnt work.
I tried it, and it does.(no attack speed bonus vs attack speed bonus offhand wielding)

Seems like everyone trying to undermine dual wielding.

Feel alone dual wielding dh on inferno. cry.gif

But I wont give up, not at least until I got half of my full dual wield dream set.
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QUOTE(Jehuty @ May 25 2012, 10:32 AM)
man im having trouble surviving in nightmare, am level 40 and i think my DPS is kinda low, about 700++ .. can ya guys post up ya equipments list? feel like mine is kinda weak!
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I'm currently lvl40 as well, in nightmore act 2 ....

armor: 1k+
damage: 3k+
hp: 3k+
dodge: 30%+

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100% chance mean crit on each hit?
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QUOTE(kadS @ May 26 2012, 01:43 AM)
100% chance mean crit on each hit?
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its sharpshooter
you gain chance to crit per sec.
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Real glass canon, non resists, 1hit dead in inferno, 71k with sharpshooter.
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i as a dh also , you shoudent have any problem killing in the early stage. try only using hunger arrow and trap for now . if got companions to hire . go for "Enchantress" tongue.gif <--- imo

try to farm until you got an elemental arrow rune-ing with thunder spehere which is pretty much owning masses of mob.


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I'm currently lvl40 as well, in nightmore act 2 ....

armor: 1k+
damage: 3k+
hp: 3k+
dodge: 30%+
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nightmare act 2 already 3k dmg o.O

what spec are you.

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Im currently lvl50 at Nighmare mode with 3.7k dmg, 18k hp. Nighmare mode is relatively easy from what I expect it to be, so Im going full dex build for Hell mode. No point stacking up vit if elite can K.O me in one shot. Can solo all the way to Diablo with no issue in current build in nightmare mode.

Can sifu that already been through hell and inferno give some advice on the skill setup?

Currently training for hell for the setup below
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2)Impale

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I wonder if I should replace Vault with the Cluster Arrow? (shadow rune)


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I'm in nightmare mode.Is it better to focus more on dex or vit?
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DEX. Always DEX.


Also, sorry I haven't been able to reply. My flight got delayed for 6 hours before I finally made it to Malaysia sleep.gif
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nightmare is fine to stack more on dex i guess
in hell need to have a little more hp pool otherwise white mobs also can 1 hit u.

i managed to co-op with a fren until leoric with only 4k hp lolz coz i thot that amount is normal for us =.=

afta that kinda hard to survive especially from mortar bomb(mybe i is slowpoke to run lol). now with 10k hp, still dies of course but feel better tongue.gif

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Level 58 DH here. Now playing hell Act II with DH but doing fine with Elites and Champs. I went for the kill fast with 16k damage + 100% criticial + 200 Critical Dmg but to buff myself up with low HP which is currently at 30k HP i bought all resistance and physical resistance gear just to have balance. So far so good until I met Frozen + Molten + Arcane Elites. biggrin.gif Just a tip for those in Nightmare, buff your DPS with dex, crit hit chance, critical damage % and attack speed % gears and lay traps throughout the whole game even with bosses. You'll be fine. Diablo himself? Use smoke screen lots, run hit run hit. For hell, start farming for gold and buff yourself like crazy. You'll notice how tofu you are when you play Act 1. good luck

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ May 26 2012, 06:03 PM)
Level 58 DH here. Now playing hell Act II with DH but doing fine with Elites and Champs. I went for the kill fast with 16k damage + 100% criticial + 200 Critical Dmg but to buff myself up with low HP which is currently at 30k HP i bought all resistance and physical resistance gear just to have balance. So far so good until I met Frozen + Molten + Arcane Elites.  biggrin.gif  Just a tip for those in Nightmare, buff your DPS with dex, crit hit chance, critical damage % and attack speed % gears and lay traps throughout the whole game even with bosses. You'll be fine. Diablo himself? Use smoke screen lots, run hit run hit. For hell, start farming for gold and buff yourself like crazy. You'll notice how tofu you are when you play Act 1. good luck

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7-14 Damage ring
better dps than 74 Dex ring........ why..
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7-14 Damage ring
better dps than 74 Dex ring........ why..
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Added on May 26, 2012, 6:58 pmEven if it doesnt still raw dmg pwn DEX far far

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QUOTE(dopp @ May 26 2012, 06:58 PM)
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Added on May 26, 2012, 6:58 pmEven if it doesnt still raw dmg pwn DEX far far
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aspd bonus adds damage, just so you know. 1% aspd makes alot difference compare to 1 dex
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^yup, aspd really add damage more than dex
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if in hell you are tofu, in inferno you are dust. per hit 50k smile.gif
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QUOTE(xiaopuyo @ May 26 2012, 12:20 PM)
i as a dh also , you shoudent have any problem killing in the early stage. try only using hunger arrow and trap for now . if got companions to hire . go for "Enchantress" tongue.gif <--- imo

try to farm until you got an elemental arrow rune-ing with thunder spehere which is pretty much owning masses of mob.


Added on May 26, 2012, 12:22 pm
nightmare act 2 already 3k dmg o.O

what spec are you.
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using 2h bow ...
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Stuck at ACT II Inferno.. Lazy want go further already.. Farm farm in ACT I..
What item stat to look for, huh?
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QUOTE(Amedion @ May 26 2012, 08:41 PM)
Stuck at ACT II Inferno.. Lazy want go further already.. Farm farm in ACT I..
What item stat to look for, huh?
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Same! tongue.gif
I farm Act 3 hell, easier to stack valor and have smoother run.
Reflect dmg on inferno is just rclxub.gif with my dh.

Most ppl lost faith in putting any defensive stats and they all went glass cannon.
Theory crafters on the other hand are banking on stacking vit+ reduced dmg from melee/ranged on top of res and armor.

Either way requires a lot of farm.
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QUOTE(Kriish @ May 26 2012, 09:16 PM)
Impulse purchase...blew up 2.5million on my weapon. Now pokai dy:

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Hopefully can handle Act II easier now...Didn't bother pumping defensive stats since the mobs gonna 1 shot KO me anyway. Going for the 'kill them before they kill me' build.
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that weapon how much dps? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Kriish @ May 26 2012, 09:16 PM)
Impulse purchase...blew up 2.5million on my weapon. Now pokai dy:

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Hopefully can handle Act II easier now...Didn't bother pumping defensive stats since the mobs gonna 1 shot KO me anyway. Going for the 'kill them before they kill me' build.
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Legendary quiver with socket, naise thumbup.gif

Please show your 2h bow, at least let us know why it worth that much biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ May 26 2012, 09:21 PM)
Same!  tongue.gif
I farm Act 3 hell, easier to stack valor and have smoother run.
Reflect dmg on inferno is just  rclxub.gif with my dh.

Most ppl lost faith in putting any defensive stats and they all went glass cannon.
Theory crafters on the other hand are banking on stacking vit+ reduced dmg from melee/ranged on top of res and armor.

Either way requires a lot of farm.
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I don't think i able to dodge every single attack with 233ms~1k+ms ..
I'll look for equipment stat in this order - dex, vit, resist all, att speed, cri dmg ...
BUT its not easy to to find cause mostly is gonna cost over million or poor stat like under 20..

Yes alot of farming required + lots of luck to get very good item..
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hey guys need tips to survive in hell mode rclxub.gif ?should i go pure dex or balanced?
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QUOTE(JunRio @ May 27 2012, 12:38 PM)
hey guys need tips to survive in hell mode rclxub.gif ?should i go pure dex or balanced?
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Just level till 60 and wear a better equipment.. Better with those +discipline.. Then just go smoke, smoke, smoke, preparation, smoke, smoke, smoke.. smile.gif
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One hand bow or two hand bow? Find a bow with high dex or bow with high dps, attack speed or bow with extra damage % and critical damage %?
Now in hell act 2, LV 53 DH, weopon dps is 300, defence is 1600, hp is 13000, dex is 1100... Still always die ... The skill for 100% critical first hit good or no?? Tqvm

I wan to cry now...help!! No money too...

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u cannot fight mobs head on when u in hell (game hell)
lay out caltrop and use entangling arrow to slow down enemy once they in caltrop.

let caltrop do damage...
weapon slot in life on hit gem...purple gem
move as fast as u can when u set up traps. ...use passive skill.
if thing get worse use rain of vengence with dark cloud rune to wipe out the mobs that trap on caltrop..

that is my strategy..
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sigh ! DH got bugged ? Shdw power with well of darkness but it still cost me 14 Discipline but not 12

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lvl 40 DH.. 1.6k dps is good with 6k life is low or ok guys?? i wanna see whether i am on par with u guys =)
doing act 2 nightmare now..

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lvl 40 DH.. 1.6k dps is good with 6k life is low or ok guys?? i wanna see whether i am on par with u guys =)
doing act 2 nightmare now..
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anyone interested?
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QUOTE(zeronova @ May 27 2012, 07:29 PM)
How much? american server?


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How much? american server?
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looking around 400-700k, i bought for 700k+ got prove from my transaction list in the AH. Ask me for it if you dont believe smile.gif


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QUOTE(Equallogy @ May 27 2012, 07:35 PM)
How much? american server?
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yeap american server

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Act II Inferno complete. Also got the last cow level staff. GG 1m to craft.
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QUOTE(JunRio @ May 27 2012, 12:38 PM)
hey guys need tips to survive in hell mode rclxub.gif ?should i go pure dex or balanced?
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100% gold find, ( change equipment every level )
life on hit 100
1000 : 450 / dex : vit

Never use hand crossbow

to maximize jugged trap, use 2handed Crossbow with life on hit.

keep running and laying trap + valley of death

passive use +15% dmg on slowed creep.

follow = templar.

best farming place in hell = Act 3. i run the whole act 3 ~ 4 times = frm 52 > 60 in 2 days.

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who is interested in this?

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pm me.. flex.gif

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who is interested in this?

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pm me.. flex.gif
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useless. any rare bow can beat this easily.
any legendary before lv60 is a waste of money

when you reach lv35, even magic bow draw higher dmg than this so called "legendary bow"

but, if you can sell it about 20k, i will buy

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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 28 2012, 02:27 AM)
gold in d3 = most valuable asset
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QUOTE(Amedion @ May 27 2012, 01:19 PM)
Just level till 60 and wear a better equipment.. Better with those +discipline.. Then just go smoke, smoke, smoke, preparation, smoke, smoke, smoke..  smile.gif
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 27 2012, 11:30 PM)
100% gold find, ( change equipment every level )
life on hit 100
1000 : 450 / dex : vit

Never use hand crossbow

to maximize jugged trap, use 2handed Crossbow with life on hit.

keep running and laying trap + valley of death

passive use  +15% dmg on slowed creep.

follow = templar.

best farming place in hell = Act 3. i run the whole act 3 ~ 4 times = frm 52 > 60 in 2 days.
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lol..i'm using hand crossbow..dmg around 13k..but thx for the tips notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 27 2012, 11:30 PM)
100% gold find, ( change equipment every level )
life on hit 100
1000 : 450 / dex : vit

Never use hand crossbow

to maximize jugged trap, use 2handed Crossbow with life on hit.

keep running and laying trap + valley of death

passive use  +15% dmg on slowed creep.

follow = templar.

best farming place in hell = Act 3. i run the whole act 3 ~ 4 times = frm 52 > 60 in 2 days.
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Same as you but more focus in Dmg and Dex.

Level 51

Equipment: most Focus in Dex, minority in Vit.
1.3k : 300+ /Dex: vit

Using Crossbow: Dmg 3.5k ( Crit 4~5k and above) - Slot with Red Square Gem
Using Laying Trap and Sentry + Follow= Templar
For me best place farming without too much pain in the A$$...Act II or III.(III will slightly harder...will die plenty of times) Act II no Problem.
Hell Mode Too.
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...until RMAH comes.  tongue.gif
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People i need some advice...

I am currently Lvl 51: DH.
Vitality is low, High in Dex for 1.3k and above. Dmg reach 3.5k
But my hp is soooooooooooooo short....
What should i do?
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QUOTE(MaryWong @ May 28 2012, 09:27 AM)
People i need some advice...

I am currently Lvl 51: DH.
Vitality is low, High in Dex for 1.3k and above. Dmg reach 3.5k
But my hp is soooooooooooooo short....
What should i do?
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slot vit gems.. or change some vit rings.. or........ just kite more don't get hit biggrin.gif
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hi all DH, i need ur opnion..
i am going full dex, all slotted place for my equiptment is fill with Perfect Square Emerald and i want to make me build have the highest DPS, low health is not a concern to me..

how can i can a DPS much much higher? currently using capalang gear i got 40k DPS.. i am using a 2 handed bow. 920 DPS. if i use the crossbow, will my total DPS become higher? i wanna but the 1200DPS crossbow but sked later if buy not many changes.. pls help smile.gif
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 28 2012, 10:22 AM)
hi all DH, i need ur opnion..
i am going full dex, all slotted place for my equiptment is fill with Perfect Square Emerald and i want to make me build have the highest DPS, low health is not a concern to me..

how can i can a DPS much much higher? currently using capalang gear i got 40k DPS.. i am using a 2 handed bow. 920 DPS. if i use the crossbow, will my total DPS become higher? i wanna but the 1200DPS crossbow but sked later if buy not many changes.. pls help smile.gif
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40k with or without Sharpshooter?
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QUOTE(zeronova @ May 28 2012, 10:25 AM)
40k with or without Sharpshooter?
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with sharpshooter, i always use dat
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 28 2012, 10:26 AM)
with sharpshooter, i always use dat
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 28 2012, 10:22 AM)
hi all DH, i need ur opnion..
i am going full dex, all slotted place for my equiptment is fill with Perfect Square Emerald and i want to make me build have the highest DPS, low health is not a concern to me..

how can i can a DPS much much higher? currently using capalang gear i got 40k DPS.. i am using a 2 handed bow. 920 DPS. if i use the crossbow, will my total DPS become higher? i wanna but the 1200DPS crossbow but sked later if buy not many changes.. pls help smile.gif
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invest pure dex and pure crit brows.gif ..all mob die quickly
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QUOTE(zeronova @ May 28 2012, 10:32 AM)
try to maximize your ASPD
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all my item got ASPD attribute, even my bow.
my concern is the bow itself.
will crossbow do more damage than normal 2 handed bow..
the crossbow with 1k= DPS is roughly +/- 5-6 m
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 28 2012, 10:39 AM)
all my item got ASPD attribute, even my bow.
my concern is the bow itself.
will crossbow do more damage than normal 2 handed bow..
the crossbow with 1k= DPS is roughly +/- 5-6 m
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not really, i got mine for 1.4m with 20%IAS 1k+ dmg xbow
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crossbow = high burst
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QUOTE(zeronova @ May 28 2012, 10:41 AM)
not really, i got mine for 1.4m with 20%IAS 1k+ dmg xbow
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how much is ur total DPS?


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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 28 2012, 10:43 AM)
crossbow = high burst
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high burst eh, hmm..
and total DPS wont be as high as using 2handed bow + sharpshooter rite?

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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 28 2012, 10:44 AM)
how much is ur total DPS?


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high burst eh, hmm..
and total DPS wont be as high as using 2handed bow + sharpshooter rite?
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60k with ss
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where the heck did i do wrong now..
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i got only 40k total DPS..
summore im using all slotted place in my gears with Perfect Square.. (2nd highest gems class at the jewelery there)
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 28 2012, 10:48 AM)
where the heck did i do wrong now..
hmm.gif
i got only 40k total DPS..
summore im using all slotted place in my gears with Perfect Square.. (2nd highest gems class at the jewelery there)
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whats your APSD? mine is 2.25 with xbow
damage increased by dex? mine 1518%
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QUOTE(zeronova @ May 28 2012, 10:49 AM)
whats your APSD? mine is 2.25 with xbow
damage increased by dex? mine 1518%
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my aspd is 2.53
damage increased by dex 1700%++
why total DPS sill 40k..
must be something wrong here..
i use all increase % attach speed for my gears..
and all my gears got > 100 DEX each
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Hi guys,

any skill combination for inferno act 1? i just stepped into it yesterday and completed first quest only... i was not being careful and got hit by grandpa zombie, 1 hit caused me 24k HP.... doh.gif

my current build is,

Mouse :
Hungering Arrow + Spray of Teeth
Elemental Arrow + Nerther Tentacles

Numpad :
1 - Smoke Screen + Lingering Fog (Increase the duration of the effect to 3 seconds)
2 - Preparation + Backup Plan (There is a 30% chance that Preparation cooldown will not be triggered)
3 - Impale + Grievous Wounds (Critical Hits cause 100% additional damage)
4 - Mark of Death + Death Toll (Heal attackers for 1% of the damage done to the marked target)

Passive :
Archery
SharpShooter
Vengeance

dps : 26k
armour : 2k
hp : 35k
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QUOTE(NeoXeroX @ May 28 2012, 10:54 AM)
Hi guys,

any skill combination for inferno act 1? i just stepped into it yesterday and completed first quest only... i was not being careful and got hit by grandpa zombie, 1 hit caused me 24k HP....  doh.gif

my current build is,

Mouse :
Hungering Arrow + Spray of Teeth
Elemental Arrow + Nerther Tentacles

Numpad :
1 - Smoke Screen + Lingering Fog (Increase the duration of the effect to 3 seconds)
2 - Preparation + Backup Plan (There is a 30% chance that Preparation cooldown will not be triggered)
3 - Impale + Grievous Wounds (Critical Hits cause 100% additional damage)
4 - Mark of Death + Death Toll (Heal attackers for 1% of the damage done to the marked target)

Passive :
Archery
SharpShooter
Vengeance

dps : 26k
armour : 2k
hp : 35k
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wah, too many HP low DPS
might as well u focus on DPS
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QUOTE(NeoXeroX @ May 28 2012, 10:54 AM)
Hi guys,

any skill combination for inferno act 1? i just stepped into it yesterday and completed first quest only... i was not being careful and got hit by grandpa zombie, 1 hit caused me 24k HP....  doh.gif

my current build is,

Mouse :
Hungering Arrow + Spray of Teeth
Elemental Arrow + Nerther Tentacles

Numpad :
1 - Smoke Screen + Lingering Fog (Increase the duration of the effect to 3 seconds)
2 - Preparation + Backup Plan (There is a 30% chance that Preparation cooldown will not be triggered)
3 - Impale + Grievous Wounds (Critical Hits cause 100% additional damage)
4 - Mark of Death + Death Toll (Heal attackers for 1% of the damage done to the marked target)

Passive :
Archery
SharpShooter
Vengeance

dps : 26k
armour : 2k
hp : 35k
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switch impale to overpenetration, else change to elemental arrow with screaming skull
switch mark of death to spiked trap with tortuous ground.

i'm at act 2 now, killing elites with ease
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 28 2012, 10:58 AM)
wah, too many HP low DPS
might as well u focus on DPS
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ya... i feel that my dps is kinda low, need to farm more to upgrade my hand bow, between i am using 1 hand bow for faster attack speed instead of 2 hand comes with higher damage but slow, just cant stand the attack speed... i am on 2.02 att speed currently... sweat.gif guess still too weak in inferno...

QUOTE(zeronova @ May 28 2012, 11:04 AM)
switch impale to overpenetration, else change to elemental arrow with screaming skull
switch mark of death to spiked trap with tortuous ground.

i'm at act 2 now, killing elites with ease
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ok sifu notworthy.gif noted your advice and will try on it tonight, probably need to change the skill from time to time when hunting elites and boss... will update here again after try. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(NeoXeroX @ May 28 2012, 11:08 AM)
ya... i feel that my dps is kinda low, need to farm more to upgrade my hand bow, between i am using 1 hand bow for faster attack speed instead of 2 hand comes with higher damage but slow, just cant stand the attack speed... i am on 2.02 att speed currently...  sweat.gif guess still too weak in inferno...
ok sifu  notworthy.gif noted your advice and will try on it tonight, probably need to change the skill from time to time when hunting elites and boss... will update here again after try.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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oh dual handed DH smile.gif
i use to dual handed till i addicted to DPS
using bow @ 2.53
really shiok when playing with other classes
they will shout ur name "hurry laboo, DPS DPS we need DPSSS!" during fight with elite / bosses..
coz monk, barb does to damage as high as us..
and monk tank better than barb! tongue.gif
cool DH~ rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 28 2012, 10:53 AM)
my aspd is 2.53
damage increased by dex 1700%++
why total DPS sill 40k..
must be something wrong here..
i use all increase % attach speed for my gears..
and all my gears got > 100 DEX each
hmm.gif
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my guess it must be due to the passive skill named : Archery

Bow : 15% Increase damage
CrossBow : 50% Critial Hit Damage
Hand Crossbows : 10% Critical Hit Chance

When i used a 400dps 2 hand CrossBow, it gives me about 20k damage with slower speed, i upgrade my 1 hand crossbow with 8xx dps, it gives me 26k damage... so my guess will be the passive skill which doing the trick out there.

P/S : supposing the 8xx dps 1 hand crossbow should give that damage, my point is when we are using 2 hand CrossBow, it tends to boost up the damage with slower attack speed.

QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 28 2012, 11:19 AM)
oh dual handed DH smile.gif
i use to dual handed till i addicted to DPS
using bow @ 2.53
really shiok when playing with other classes
they will shout ur name "hurry laboo, DPS DPS we need DPSSS!" during fight with elite / bosses..
coz monk, barb does to damage as high as us..
and monk tank better than barb! tongue.gif
cool DH~  rclxms.gif
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haha not leh, currently using 1 hand crossbow with quiver, still looking for a better one with comes with dex,vit,speed,hatred regen and resistance. Yup, DH is about damage dealing rclxms.gif

Hell Mode Act 3 is relatively easy to me atm, which i advice my barb fren to pump gold finding gear and do the tanking, whereby i am at the back shoot like nobody business.. good for them but well, i am helping them out icon_rolleyes.gif


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well if you slot sharpshooter, the critical goes up to 100% eventually.. means your first shot will be 50% extra of the critical dmg.. im guessing that's the dmg that showed on tooltip.. we should look for the base dmg i guess (lowest number of the dmg away from town..maybe?)

1h xbow only boosts critical rate, so it doesn't contribute to the dmg..

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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 28 2012, 11:45 AM)
well if you slot sharpshooter, the critical goes up to 100% eventually.. means your first shot will be 50% extra of the critical dmg.. im guessing that's the dmg that showed on tooltip.. we should look for the base dmg i guess (lowest number of the dmg away from town..maybe?)

1h xbow only boosts critical rate, so it doesn't contribute to the dmg..
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i see..
so since im going for DPS, better stick with 2 handed bow?
rite?
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that's what i prefer atm, since we're always kiting and shooting.. not constantly shooting..

however if you have cc skills slotted, like screaming skull or webshot.. dual wield might be a good idea too.. faster speed = more cc = mobs can't get close to u biggrin.gif

fighting boss dps wise i think both will be the same, considernig the weapons dps are equal.. since dual wield has really fast aspd..

i'll try dual wield when i have good 1h xbows, right now only have a legit 2h xbow..

btw i tried wielding 1h xbow and a shield.. it looks really funny lol.. wonder how'd it be blink.gif
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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 28 2012, 11:45 AM)
well if you slot sharpshooter, the critical goes up to 100% eventually.. means your first shot will be 50% extra of the critical dmg.. im guessing that's the dmg that showed on tooltip.. we should look for the base dmg i guess (lowest number of the dmg away from town..maybe?)

1h xbow only boosts critical rate, so it doesn't contribute to the dmg..
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wat is sharpshooter? noob <---
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well i'm talking about archery with 1h xbow and 2h xbow..



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QUOTE(MaryWong @ May 28 2012, 12:04 PM)
wat is sharpshooter? noob <---
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one of the passives that increases your crit rate by 3% every second till it's 100%

since crit rate increases damage thus it's a great asset to DH
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QUOTE(MaryWong @ May 28 2012, 12:04 PM)
wat is sharpshooter? noob <---
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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 28 2012, 12:06 PM)
well i'm talking about sharpshooter with 1h xbow and 2h xbow..

sharpshooter is our mastery.. extra boosts depending on your main hand weapon type..
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that sounds more like archery..

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Hi guys , due to lack of time to experiment and to get experience from DH players here,

I was theorycrafting a Hatred build would be more effective that a Discipline build. Currently this is how my Discipline heavy skill set goes ,

Level 33 (lolnub i know)

1)Vault (Rune-Rattle & Roll)
2)Preparation (Rune-Invigoration)
3)Caltrops (Rune-Jagged Spikes)
4)Rapid Fire (Rune-Fire Support)

Primary attack mode - Entangling Shot (Rune-Chain Shot)
Secondary attack mode - Impale (Rune-Impact)

Passive skills - Cull of the weak,Archery,Hot pursuit.




Offense;
So basically it will be primary attack Chain Slow mobs and Cull of the weak deals extra damage to slowed mobs.

When needing to deal lots of damage fast will use Rapid Fire

Impale -I use it against Flyers,Mortars,Teleport usually

Defense;
Caltrops to slow and deal damage (if surrounded or walled)
Vault to escape if (surrounded or walled)

Basically I'd use Invigoration to refuel Discipline if emptied and at tight times when fighting bosses I constantly need to run more for discipline to recharge. Will be most vurnerable when Invigoration is charging.

Anyone wanna share their platy setup? lol
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wat u guys dps in act 1 hell?
currently im 1.6k dps, just slash the SK
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hey guys, lets do some testing, please remove all the passive skill and post up in the field as below, lets find out which passive skill which actually boots up the damage.

Type of Bow : Bow / 1 Hand Crossbow / 2 Hand Crossbow
Clean Damage :
Damage without Sharp Shooter :
Damage without Archery :
Damage with Sharp Shooter & Archery :

i think from the above we should know...

Sharp shooter = boost 3% critical chance every sec until 100%
Archery =
Bow : 15% Increase damage
2 Hand CrossBow : 50% Critical Hit Damage
1 Hand CrossBow : 10% Critical Hit Chance

As what i observed, when i'm tele to town to sell stuffs, my damage will be keep on increasing until the extend - the critical chance becoming 100%, add-on with Archery : 50% critical hit damage, it will be omgosh.. (i was using 2 hand crossbow that time)

whereby for 1 Hand bow, it doesn't make a big effect for this, because it only increase the critical hit chance by 10% which adds a little damage to our dps only...

please correct me if i am wrong wink.gif


So, basically 2 handed crossbow will only make a big damage on the first hit, and everything will reset to the original stats when in the battle with slower att speed compare to 1 handed crossbow/bow

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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ May 28 2012, 12:07 PM)
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that sounds more like archery..
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wat u guys dps in act 1 hell?
currently im 1.6k dps, just slash the SK
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1.6k can survive hell? wow, you're pro

u sure its not 16k?
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1.6k can survive hell? wow, you're pro

u sure its not 16k?
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i wonder how u guys can boost the dps up to 10k++
from AH kah?
1.6k seriously, but wat the normal dps in hell act 1 actually?
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well simply said, when u slot archery and sharpshooter.. the dmg tooltip shown is the 50% critical dmg number...

wonder if u slot steady aim it'll be calculated or not
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steady aim increases damage, alot.................my damage from 60k -> 71k with steady aim, was using tactical advantage before that
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QUOTE(MaryWong @ May 28 2012, 09:27 AM)
People i need some advice...

I am currently Lvl 51: DH.
Vitality is low, High in Dex for 1.3k and above. Dmg reach 3.5k
But my hp is soooooooooooooo short....
What should i do?
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lvl51 with 3.5k dmg is very low ... (without sharpshooter)
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QUOTE(Calvados @ May 28 2012, 02:17 PM)
lvl51 with 3.5k dmg is very low ... (without sharpshooter)
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low? rclxub.gif i think i need to get a good bow


Added on May 28, 2012, 1:23 pmforgot wat my passive skill, will post it later

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i thought i had around 3-4k also at level 51.. should be fine..
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Kinda gave up in Act III Inferno. Even the small goblins ohko you lol.

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Great Tips for DH want to Power Level 51 ~ 60.

Stat Setting
7:3 Dex:Vit

Skill deployed
Must be Elative Mode
Jugged Trap, Battle Scar(60% hp recover), Valley of Death(Mark), Dark Cloud(Rain of Death)
Scatter Shot, Rapid Fire( i switch to ferrot companion for more gold drop )

EQ Setting
2hand Crossbow + Quiver
Why? Your skill DMG Count only your Weapon dmg ONLY, not its Atk Speed. Meaning :

680DPS BOW dmg is same with 680DPS 2hand Crossbow.
But the dmg count in your skill, eg jugged trap. 680DPS Crossbow will be 30% higher than Bow

Because , Bow atk/second = 1.4
2h Crossbow atk/second = 1.1
With lower DMG, bow can achieve higher DPS because faster atk speed.
BUT The skill do not count your Weapon Atk Speed, count only DMG spread.

So, for maximum Skill dmg, the finest choice is 2h Crossbow. Lowest dmg spread, Highest DMG.
For newbie, you can continue using hand crossbow ( highest atk speed, lowest dmg, largest dmg spread )
Theoretically, your normal dmg is meaningless. Skill dmg is much more effective.

Gold Find
minimum 80%
You need to upgrade your gear every level ( at least one )
i switch 6pcs 2h crossbow from 52 ~ 60

Magic find
Simple Useless. Why?
100%you need gold.
but not 100% the rare gear you drop is what you want, and more importantly, and worse - its worthless.
I have stack naphelem valor x5 with magic find 104%, drop nothing usefull for 10 hours farm..... ( in hell mode )

Extra
Get life on hit when your dps is low
do the math.

Place to Level
Simply act 3
Open space do not suitable for leveling DH. When there is a lot of door/stairs, you can effectively place your trap along the stairs, doors.
in Act 3, the level design simply sweet spot for DH.

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Anyone got any level 60 legendaries yet? Saw a lot on blizz forum.... so tempting...
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Anyone got any level 60 legendaries yet? Saw a lot on blizz forum.... so tempting...
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QUOTE(zeronova @ May 28 2012, 03:02 PM)
got one, but sold, useless stats although dex+118
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saw an Andariel helm or something.. seems like a famous DH helm.. starting bid 3.5 M  doh.gif
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haha, every DH is craving for that. too much, can't afford
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yeah, can't stand to look at the stats.. too far away from me cry.gif
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saw an Andariel helm or something.. seems like a famous DH helm.. starting bid 3.5 M  doh.gif
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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 21 2012, 09:30 PM)
f me. I caved in and purchased a 840dps weapon for 2m.

At least it was worth the upgrade. Act II Inferno elites are relatively easy now.
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I think I'm about 1 week behind you in progress. The good thing about being late to the party is that 800-ish dps bows are much cheaper now laugh.gif
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ May 28 2012, 05:20 PM)
I think I'm about 1 week behind you in progress. The good thing about being late to the party is that 800-ish dps bows are much cheaper now laugh.gif
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oh ya i think we are the same stage too, bought 872 dps bow for like 800k, i am happy for that and farming happily too laugh.gif
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hi guys...level 55 DH reporting in..so hard in Act 2 Hell level...wanna buy equipment..DPS only 7k... cannot survived.. any good place for farming gold guys (nightmare level)?

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QUOTE(milzer1993 @ May 28 2012, 05:29 PM)
hi guys...level 55 DH reporting in..so hard in Act 2 Hell level...wanna buy equipment..DPS only 7k... cannot survived.. any good place for farming gold guys (nightmare level)?
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QUOTE(milzer1993 @ May 28 2012, 05:29 PM)
hi guys...level 55 DH reporting in..so hard in Act 2 Hell level...wanna buy equipment..DPS only 7k... cannot survived.. any good place for farming gold guys (nightmare level)?
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hi there, i personally wouldn't suggest you to farm now at level55, due to the buff x 5, which makes a lot easier for you to farm rather than farming now at level55 in nightmare mode, endure the pain and frustration, get it over, until you reach level 60 and farm on act 3 Hell, which is more suitable IMHO... been there, done that too, next stage i face is inferno wink.gif
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i try to compare with this 2 bow.
the result is i keep my bow and sell the crossbow ><""
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QUOTE(Lau Pan @ May 28 2012, 05:45 PM)
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the result is i keep my bow and sell the crossbow ><""
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eh eh..
how u made dat Normal / SS stats?
u edit or got option to compare that?
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dem 4mil oso cant seem to buy anything decent.
resellers jacking up price left and right. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ May 28 2012, 05:20 PM)
I think I'm about 1 week behind you in progress. The good thing about being late to the party is that 800-ish dps bows are much cheaper now laugh.gif
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I found a 970 DPS 2H Crossbow in Act IV, so I've been using that instead. I've really lost all motivation to play right now. I mean, what is there left to do once you hit Act IV Inferno. Farming yields just bigger DPS..thats it.

Also Act IV is equally as frustrating as Act II because as a DH, you die to anything. Now what makes it frustrating is the fact that the Corrupt Angels dash at you from like ten screens away and you'll never see it coming.

Lets not even get into the super fast Morlus and the meteors that you can't dodge in the lag. :|

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 28 2012, 06:08 PM)
I found a 970 DPS 2H Crossbow in Act IV, so I've been using that instead. I've really lost all motivation to play right now. I mean, what is there left to do once you hit Act IV Inferno. Farming yields just bigger DPS..thats it.

Also Act IV is equally as frustrating as Act II because as a DH, you die to anything. Now what makes it frustrating is the fact that the Corrupt Angels dash at you from like ten screens away and you'll never see it coming.

Lets not even get into the super fast Morlus and the meteors that you can't dodge in the lag. :|
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Saw someone selling 1054 2H bow at 75k only.. Im too slow..

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ May 28 2012, 06:15 PM)
Rakanoth says hi.  biggrin.gif
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Im using 1H crossbow now with 895dmg +128 dex.. I think will be using it for awhile..

Any tips on buying armor? Must search for over 100dex, 50vit and all resist?
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eh eh..
how u made dat Normal / SS stats?
u edit or got option to compare that?
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just compare both bow with and without sharpshooter.
that crossbow i bought 1m, but previous bow better ><""


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so in this game dps is more important than your dex/int


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QUOTE(Amedion @ May 28 2012, 06:16 PM)
Saw someone selling 1054 2H bow at 75k only.. Im too slow..
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next time dont hesitate if u found something so good. and also after buying do not further view other prices.. maybe u found a cheaper one and will b crying over it tongue.gif

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nightmare mode

butcher, belial, azmodan : soooooooo EASY

diablo : FARKING HARD !!!!!!

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Started my hell act2, damn those elite mob in the desert k.o me in 1 hit. I need to edit my skill list. Caltrop works best with Vault? But seems like caltrop have no effect on elite mob, they walk right through it. Meh.
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Yea those damn elites slow also no use.

Any tips handling them?
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Yea those damn elites slow also no use.

Any tips handling them?
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hit n run rclxms.gif
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common knowledge la but any skill combo or tricks to deal with them?
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common knowledge la but any skill combo or tricks to deal with them?
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Have fun shooting from far while they run away from you
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weh guys, question:

when u did a filter in the AH, looking for Weapon Damage %, does the weapon damage % calculated from all the total DPS? or just from the weapon itself?

example:

2 handed Bow
1200 DPS
230-720 damage
+ 100 Fire Damage
+ 50% Damage <-- this one 50% from the weapon or from our total DPS?

coz some of DH total DPS just crazy.. 70K+ la.. 80Kplus la.. dafuq~
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Act 2 inferno is terrible sad.gif
seems like I'll stuck here for a while
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QUOTE(Calvados @ May 28 2012, 11:27 PM)
nightmare mode

butcher, belial, azmodan : soooooooo EASY

diablo : FARKING HARD !!!!!!
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Inferno Mode
All boss is easy.

Elite Pack = GG

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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 29 2012, 11:21 AM)
weh guys, question:

when u did a filter in the AH, looking for Weapon Damage %, does the weapon damage % calculated from all the total DPS? or just from the weapon itself?

example:

2 handed Bow
1200 DPS
230-720 damage
+ 100 Fire Damage
+ 50% Damage <-- this one 50% from the weapon or from our total DPS?

coz some of DH total DPS just crazy.. 70K+ la.. 80Kplus la.. dafuq~
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There is no such thing as crazy DPS without Sharpshooter, Steady Aim and Archery. Trust me, those are all inflated values. Actual top DPS values range from 50~60k only. Also, look at the raw damage on the weapon. DPS may be lower due to IAS but when you're doing burst damage, IAS hardly matters.

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my friend's DH has a whooping 70k dps =.=

and still stuck at inferno act 2
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my friend's DH has a whooping 70k dps =.=

and still stuck at inferno act 2
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you can try to ask him that, after the first critical damage done, open inventory and have a look on the raw damage, i believe it will not be the 70k dps consistence.. probably 40-50k range or might be lower nod.gif
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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 29 2012, 02:48 PM)
There is no such thing as crazy DPS without Sharpshooter, Steady Aim and Archery. Trust me, those are all inflated values. Actual top DPS values range from 50~60k only. Also, look at the raw damage on the weapon. DPS may be lower due to IAS but when you're doing burst damage, IAS hardly matters.
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Sharpshoothe is which leh??
im confused ady can't see any sharpshooter skill..

what i use, Steady Aim, Cull of the Weak and Archery
need to replace which one?? rclxub.gif

and wuts an IAS? icon_question.gif
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Sharpshoothe is which leh??
im confused ady can't see any sharpshooter skill..

what i use, Steady Aim, Cull of the Weak and Archery
need to replace which one??  rclxub.gif

and wuts an IAS?  icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(NeoXeroX @ May 28 2012, 12:29 PM)
Sharp shooter = boost 3% critical chance every sec until 100%
Archery =
Bow : 15% Increase damage
2 Hand CrossBow : 50% Critical Hit Damage
1 Hand CrossBow : 10% Critical Hit Chance

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Steady Aim helping to boots up the damage too, IAS if not wrong should be Increase Attack Speed
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QUOTE(NeoXeroX @ May 29 2012, 05:08 PM)
Steady Aim helping to boots up the damage too, IAS if not wrong should be Increase Attack Speed
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ooh that one is Sharpshooter..
will it also counted in out total DAMAGE when checking our character (pressing C key)?
and yes.. i use all IAS stuff, even my bow.
and all emerald upgraded to the second highest.
still 40K Damage when pressing C
damn!!

bow already 920DPS..
what went wrong.. hmm..
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 29 2012, 05:13 PM)
ooh that one is Sharpshooter..
will it also counted in out total DAMAGE when checking our character (pressing C key)?
and yes.. i use all IAS stuff, even my bow.
and all emerald upgraded to the second highest.
still 40K Damage when pressing C
damn!!

bow already 920DPS..
what went wrong.. hmm..
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yes, it will count in the damage, but when we done on the critical, it reset to the original stage and start increasing again and again until the critical chance hit 100%

for your DPS, i gotta comment, it's because you're on bow, with not much DPS madness increment with the passive skill helping by Archery. Thus your damage will constantly staying roughly 30-35k per shot approximately, whereby for those who is taking 2 handed crossbow, it gotta have the madness DPS for the first few hit, and then the DPS will drop quite a volume. refer ZeratoS's post for better understanding too nod.gif

QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 29 2012, 02:48 PM)
There is no such thing as crazy DPS without Sharpshooter, Steady Aim and Archery. Trust me, those are all inflated values. Actual top DPS values range from 50~60k only. Also, look at the raw damage on the weapon. DPS may be lower due to IAS but when you're doing burst damage, IAS hardly matters.
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In Short :
get a decent 600-700 dps 2 handed crossbow to try it out, you should see the differentiate between them. Remember to hook up your passive skill : Archery.

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In Inferno, IAS will help your skill animations play out faster. This is important up to the point where you can comfortably stutter step (Shoot 1 arrow, run back, shoot another) to kite.

After that, arguably damage per hit becomes more important as its more resource effective (Impale, etc) and wastes less time doing the same damage.

At some point (2.7+ attacks per sec) you'll be able to do two shots per round, but until you get to that point, its more cost effective to build damage over IAS.
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QUOTE(NeoXeroX @ May 29 2012, 05:22 PM)
yes, it will count in the damage, but when we done on the critical, it reset to the original stage and start increasing again and again until the critical chance hit 100%

for your DPS, i gotta comment, it's because you're on bow, with not much DPS madness increment with the passive skill helping by Archery. Thus your damage will constantly staying roughly 30-35k per shot approximately, whereby for those who is taking 2 handed crossbow, it gotta have the madness DPS for the first few hit, and then the DPS will drop quite a volume. refer ZeratoS's post for better understanding too  nod.gif
In Short :
get a decent 600-700 dps 2 handed crossbow to try it out, you should see the differentiate between them. Remember to hook up your passive skill : Archery.
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crystal clear!
thanks mate!

ffffffffffuuuuuuuu!

imma get 1.3K DPS 2handed xbow now
+50% Damage
+25% IAS

I WILL REPLACE DIABLO AND BE THE REAL LEGION!

lulz laugh.gif


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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 29 2012, 05:36 PM)
In Inferno, IAS will help your skill animations play out faster. This is important up to the point where you can comfortably stutter step (Shoot 1 arrow, run back, shoot another) to kite.

After that, arguably damage per hit becomes more important as its more resource effective (Impale, etc) and wastes less time doing the same damage.

At some point (2.7+ attacks per sec) you'll be able to do two shots per round, but until you get to that point, its more cost effective to build damage over IAS.
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ok... letsay i got powderfool bow/xbow ady..
and it got slot..
should i slot it with Star Emerald or Star Ruby hmm.gif

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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 29 2012, 05:37 PM)
crystal clear!
thanks mate!

ffffffffffuuuuuuuu!

imma get 1.3K DPS 2handed xbow now
+50% Damage
+25% IAS

I WILL REPLACE DIABLO AND BE THE REAL LEGION!

lulz  laugh.gif


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ok... letsay i got powderfool bow/xbow ady..
and it got slot..
should i slot it with Star Emerald or Star Ruby  hmm.gif
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i think ruby will be better,cause emerald only increases crit damage, ruby adds base damage
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ May 29 2012, 05:42 PM)
i think ruby will be better,cause emerald only increases crit damage, ruby adds base damage
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I think put emerald better cause ruby add +17-34 dmg only while emerald add +70% critical dmg..

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QUOTE(Amedion @ May 29 2012, 06:01 PM)
I think put emerald better cause ruby add +40dmg only while emerald add +100% critical dmg..
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chances of crit if well buffed then yes emerald, if general balance i think ruby
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Let say you have 1000dps weapon and 1500dex ...

Radiant star ruby +20-40dmg ... Radiant star emerald +100% critical hit damage...

Ruby = dmg*1500dex, you get +300 min dmg / +600 max dmg..
Emerald = total damage 15k + 100% = 30k..

With SS passive ability.. Your first shot will always be critical which is 30k..

Correct me .
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QUOTE(Amedion @ May 29 2012, 09:09 PM)
Let say you have 1000dps weapon and 1500dex ...

Radiant star ruby +20-40dmg ... Radiant star emerald +100% critical hit damage...

Ruby = dmg*1500dex, you get +300 min dmg / +600 max dmg..
Emerald = total damage 15k + 100% = 30k..

With SS passive ability.. Your first shot will always be critical which is 30k..

Correct me .
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hmm thinking of going for Xbow like this hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Amedion @ May 29 2012, 09:09 PM)
Let say you have 1000dps weapon and 1500dex ...

Radiant star ruby +20-40dmg ... Radiant star emerald +100% critical hit damage...

Ruby = dmg*1500dex, you get +300 min dmg / +600 max dmg..
Emerald = total damage 15k + 100% = 30k..

With SS passive ability.. Your first shot will always be critical which is 30k..

Correct me .
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nod.gif nod.gif it's always better to slot in emerald than ruby, according to your formula on top already can tell that, each shoot we can gain from ruby is about extra 300-600 constantly, be it max out 6k damage extra for 10 shoots, i believe out of 10, at least 2-4 will strike critical depending on the critical chance rate. if 2 provided with the Radiant star emerald(100% damage when critical), the extra damage we gain is extra 30k..


QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 29 2012, 10:32 PM)
whoa dice..
hmm thinking of going for Xbow like this  hmm.gif
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with your current AS, i believe you should be doing fine, i doubt you can stand the speed though unsure.gif
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thanks guys u're the best!
after equipping the SS passive skill my DPS went to 70K
bahahahah!

all this while 40K jump to 70k really crazy la the increment
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Remember the DPS increase only works on the first shot [or until the first projectile hit the enemy biggrin.gif]


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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 30 2012, 11:36 AM)
thanks guys u're the best!
after equipping the SS passive skill my DPS went to 70K
bahahahah!

all this while 40K jump to 70k really crazy la the increment
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SS passive skills??
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sharpshooter i guess.. lol
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Damage from 100% crit of Sharpshooter cannot be used in comparison, that is just exagerated amount. Must look at the base Damage (lowest it can go after 1st shot), that should be the average.
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yeah the inflated values are just for self satisfaction.... and those crazy 300k crits only comes from Impale last rune, which is not all that good vs elite/champ packs..
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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ May 30 2012, 01:17 PM)
lul Blizzard ninja-buffed demon hunter companion dmg.
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sos??
all this while im using ferret.
my total GF (farming gears + nephalem + ferret = 217%)


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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 30 2012, 01:24 PM)
sos??
all this while im using ferret.
my total GF (farming gears + nephalem + ferret = 217%)
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see the tooltip.
From 30% to 60%, now 86% weapon dmg.
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Question, anyone uses cloaks like this?

Or I should just salvage it?




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QUOTE(ellimist @ May 30 2012, 02:07 PM)
Question, anyone uses cloaks like this?

Or I should just salvage it?
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if dh self pickup might use, but probably wont buy.
if someone wanna go socket, theyd probably search for 3 sockets anyway
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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ May 30 2012, 02:56 PM)
if dh self pickup might use, but probably wont buy.
if someone wanna go socket, theyd probably search for 3 sockets anyway
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correct.
i the cloak + dex 100 plus
then +vit 100 plus
then got 3 sockets

easily can sell in 6 digits nod.gif
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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ May 30 2012, 02:56 PM)
if dh self pickup might use, but probably wont buy.
if someone wanna go socket, theyd probably search for 3 sockets anyway
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 30 2012, 03:03 PM)
correct.
i the cloak + dex 100 plus
then +vit 100 plus
then got 3 sockets

easily can sell in 6 digits  nod.gif
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Cools. Figured no one would buy it unless pick. Guess I'll salvage it or merc it. Thanks for the advice guys smile.gif
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most valuable chest will be dex + max discipline i guess
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QUOTE(ahtun9 @ May 30 2012, 05:08 PM)
most valuable chest will be dex + max discipline i guess
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pity DH no attend Pendikdikan Moral last time at skool..
i was on SMK got teach one

"i dont have enough dicipline"

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which means all Demon Hunters dont have much dicipline ...
so better dont screw with them ...
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QUOTE(Calvados @ May 30 2012, 06:38 PM)
which means all Demon Hunters dont have much dicipline ...
so better dont screw with them ...
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means whenever the char yell "not enough discipline" they shud get 100% chance to lose control of your char or going nuts tongue.gif
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hello a demon hunter here lol hahahah
i am new to this thread


Added on May 30, 2012, 10:41 pmwhat is the ideal dps for demon hunter at the level of 33?


Added on May 30, 2012, 10:45 pmis by having 843.78 dps at level 33 consider high?

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QUOTE(flying spaghetti monster123 @ May 30 2012, 10:39 PM)
hello a demon hunter here lol hahahah
i am new to this thread


Added on May 30, 2012, 10:41 pmwhat is the ideal dps for demon hunter at the level of 33?


Added on May 30, 2012, 10:45 pmis by having 843.78 dps at level 33 consider high?
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I think most ppl here already max lvl, and most of us forget our dps at that point. sweat.gif
I never bought anything until nightmare act 3, just use scraps I found..lol
so I dont think you need to worry about being undergeared
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QUOTE(flying spaghetti monster123 @ May 30 2012, 10:39 PM)
hello a demon hunter here lol hahahah
i am new to this thread


Added on May 30, 2012, 10:41 pmwhat is the ideal dps for demon hunter at the level of 33?


Added on May 30, 2012, 10:45 pmis by having 843.78 dps at level 33 consider high?
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If you're playing normally (equips from hunting / drops / loots) then it's normal dps.

But if you're the type which loves to grab cheap stuff at auction house (AH freak like me laugh.gif)..

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For normal and nightmare just buy some decent gear from AH and you are ok.

Now in hell act 2 and the kiting is quite boring...
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Any of you have problem with vaults? Whenever I vault and immediately use secondary attack/primary attack, what happens instead was I just vault back into the mobs (vault out and vault back in =.=) and I die.
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QUOTE(legiwei @ May 31 2012, 08:19 AM)
Any of you have problem with vaults? Whenever I vault and immediately use secondary attack/primary attack, what happens instead was I just vault back into the mobs (vault out and vault back in =.=) and I die.
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Is yr mobs got special attack like Vortex???
They will suck u in the group one!


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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ May 31 2012, 01:43 AM)
If you're playing normally (equips from hunting / drops / loots) then it's normal dps.

But if you're the type which loves to grab cheap stuff at auction house (AH freak like me laugh.gif)..

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Nice dps for lvl 32. mine like 1000dps only, hahaha....but more fun....and more challenging! tongue.gif

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Nope, it's me vaulting out and vaulting back in. Can see from the animation and sound. Also happens on regular mobs. Always happen when I am under time pressure. Eg, need to vault, secondary attack and vault again to avoid fast mortar mobs. But I vault out and then vault back in. Perhaps it's due to lantency. I'm having like 300++ which is probably not good enough.
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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ May 30 2012, 11:28 PM)
I think most ppl here already max lvl, and most of us forget our dps at that point.  sweat.gif
I never bought anything until nightmare act 3, just use scraps I found..lol
so I dont think you need to worry about being undergeared
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Me too, the solution: AH!!!

Can get some really good stuff with fairly cheap price!
Last nite me first time go to AH shop shop and able to get some nice xbow, lvl: 44, price: 1000gold, instantly + 800+dps , nice!!!


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QUOTE(legiwei @ May 31 2012, 08:54 AM)
Nope, it's me vaulting out and vaulting back in. Can see from the animation and sound. Also happens on regular mobs. Always happen when I am under time pressure. Eg, need to vault, secondary attack and vault again to avoid fast mortar mobs. But I vault out and then vault back in. Perhaps it's due to lantency. I'm having like 300++ which is probably not good enough.
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then u check yr mouse cursor where u pointed. usually DH vault where u point.
r u pointed back to the mobs group cos wanna shoot them?? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(legiwei @ May 31 2012, 09:54 AM)
Nope, it's me vaulting out and vaulting back in. Can see from the animation and sound. Also happens on regular mobs. Always happen when I am under time pressure. Eg, need to vault, secondary attack and vault again to avoid fast mortar mobs. But I vault out and then vault back in. Perhaps it's due to lantency. I'm having like 300++ which is probably not good enough.
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I also kena this many times liau.. not sure if vault skill has some delay before jumping out. sometimes when i see i'm not vaulting, i had to spam it few more times then and up vault out and back into elite mobs. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(FireSnake @ May 31 2012, 09:00 AM)
then u check yr mouse cursor where u pointed. usually DH vault where u point.
r u pointed back to the mobs group cos wanna shoot them??  tongue.gif
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I only vault once. smile.gif Hits secondary attack, instead of attacking, I vault back in!!! laugh.gif Either I die or if I'm lucky, I can SS with close to 0 health. xD.
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QUOTE(legiwei @ May 31 2012, 09:19 AM)
I only vault once. smile.gif Hits secondary attack, instead of attacking, I vault back in!!! laugh.gif Either I die or if I'm lucky, I can SS with close to 0 health. xD.
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Then i have really no idea.
I hardly use vault, Smoke screen is a better choice for cabut. tongue.gif
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nm.. lol. probably jsut delay

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my frd pass me a 2H Xbow, after SS, acrchery & steady aim

DPS hit 20k, is that OK

My lvl is 58, i think tonight gonna go repeat the quest till 60 so i can change whole set of armor~
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QUOTE(FireSnake @ May 31 2012, 08:50 AM)
Is yr mobs got special attack like Vortex???
They will suck u in the group one!


Added on May 31, 2012, 8:52 am

Nice dps for lvl 32. mine like 1000dps only, hahaha....but more fun....and more challenging!  tongue.gif
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laugh.gif I am lazy to go through Normal / Nightmare slowly due to time constraints, so pump my dps like no tomorrow. Wanna quickly join inferno mode xD
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Hey guys , I'm wondering what's the best passive skills to place on for DH? <3

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Guys, do you think 27k hp, 2.7k armor, 270-300 res, and 28k DPS (without SS) is good enough for inferno act 2?

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Lol, Vault is not where your mouse is pointing iinm, It's more like which sides are your character facing when you press the vault key.

Also, the vault in and vault out stuff, it's the delay. Only happens when you jam your keyboard as if your latency is <1ms lol
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QUOTE(Kyl3 @ May 31 2012, 01:57 PM)
Guys, do you think 27k hp, 2.7k armor, 270-300 res, and 28k DPS (without SS) is good enough for inferno act 2?
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plenty room for improvement, if u noe wht i mean
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question guys,
where to farm bow 1.+k dmg at inferno?
act 1? act 2? act 3? sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Ajita @ May 31 2012, 04:13 PM)
plenty room for improvement, if u noe wht i mean
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QUOTE(ageh84 @ May 31 2012, 04:21 PM)
question guys,
where to farm bow 1.+k dmg at inferno?
act 1? act 2? act 3?  sweat.gif
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Farm Aspects in Act IV Inferno

A good DH will be able to solo Leah

Else, Act III will do as well since its full of mobs and you can Elemental Arrow them down
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How to get a 1k plus dps bow ? The ah too expensive... Now using 860 dps two hands bow...
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ May 31 2012, 01:43 AM)
If you're playing normally (equips from hunting / drops / loots) then it's normal dps.

But if you're the type which loves to grab cheap stuff at auction house (AH freak like me laugh.gif)..

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Teach me master...

... or did you spend more than 10k per eq?
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QUOTE(Luftwacko @ May 31 2012, 10:58 PM)
Teach me master...

... or did you spend more than 10k per eq?
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Usually only stalk & purchase eqps < 10k. Then slot in Square Emerald gems (Available in AH for 1k each last time). laugh.gif
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post Jun 1 2012, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ May 31 2012, 11:45 PM)
Usually only stalk & purchase eqps < 10k. Then slot in Square Emerald gems (Available in AH for 1k each last time). laugh.gif
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I never spend more than 5k for eq for my DH.

Maybe deswai my DPS is lower than urs =/
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post Jun 1 2012, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(Luftwacko @ Jun 1 2012, 12:06 AM)
I never spend more than 5k for eq for my DH.

Maybe deswai my DPS is lower than urs =/
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Sometime u will get some good deals. I was able to get a x bow for 1500 gold with additional 500 dps for my DH.
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post Jun 1 2012, 02:09 AM

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I just rolled a new DH today. Already Act 4 Normal and it took me approx 4 hours of playing time, could be less. Now I understand DH's power. ohmy.gif

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QUOTE(Kyl3 @ May 31 2012, 01:57 PM)
Guys, do you think 27k hp, 2.7k armor, 270-300 res, and 28k DPS (without SS) is good enough for inferno act 2?
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almost same like me..... 27k hp can't stand a hit.... tried dy.... unless u have plenty discipline to smoke screen for every attacks... sweat.gif

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