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Shadow Kun
post Jun 7 2012, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(FireSnake @ Jun 7 2012, 04:55 PM)
I got an armor which got hatred regen, plus the bat, so far no prob.
the regen is quite fast, after all i am not standing like non-stop spamming the arrows, i like shoot 2-3 , run away like 3-5 seconds. no prob for lacking hatred.

like the impale 250% damage on boss fight + knockback and the ele arrows + stun effect.

Dunno it is going to work for Hell Diablo???
hahhaa....

Now i am struggling on high dps bow or lower dps bow + cols damage (slow enemy)

any advise? notworthy.gif
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waa nice oso. usually my strategy is to get as far as possible from him using vault and snipe him from off screen. hungering arrows helps quite a lot since you tend to miss when only depending on the minimap to target him. i use impale too when he's close
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post Jun 16 2012, 12:01 PM

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hey u guys think its good to use teeth spray hungering arrow if my crit % is low or am i better off with another rune?
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post Jun 16 2012, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(FireSnake @ Jun 16 2012, 12:07 PM)
It depends on yr play style, yr stats and the difficulty level.  tongue.gif
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damn safe answer lolz. im just wondering whether is it viable to rely only on sharpshooter's crit to trigger the teeth spray.
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post Jun 16 2012, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ Jun 16 2012, 05:04 PM)
Haha i was thinking at normal mode, i wont be draining hatred much. But to think again, i think i need to use hatred generator skills already . Sigh..
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u really need one unles u have regen hatred over 9000 per second gears lol.
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post Jun 25 2012, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(cylaipro @ Jun 25 2012, 10:39 AM)
which one lv60 legendary weapon better?

Bows? Crossbows? Hand Crossbows?
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crossbows for big crits, bows for better overall damage, hand crossbows for crit procs. pick your poison.

as for me im using hand crossbow with a quiver for the crit chance and attack speed since im using mainly hungering arrow with teeth spray.
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post Jun 25 2012, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Jun 25 2012, 11:05 AM)
guy need an input...since the price of 1handxbow is ridiculous...is a bow + quiver setup better? i have round 2mil to spend what should i look for in a bow + quiver?
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why not hand crossbow with a quiver?
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:01 AM

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hey does anyone know whether spray of teeth hits the primary target as well or just the other monsters in the area?
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(Lawolfe @ Jun 26 2012, 11:06 AM)
got bounce on other mobs as well. if the hit is a critical, then it will cause more dmg (but not sure if AOE or on single mobs because too many numbers flying out can't really tell).
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i know it hits other monsters in the area. what im asking is whether if the spray of teeth hits the primary target hit by the hungering arrow as well. meaning that the primary target get hit by both the hungering arrow and the spray of teeth. goddamit so hard to esplain
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(-Aerin- @ Jun 26 2012, 11:28 AM)
Someone was asking the same thing on D3 blizz forums, TLDR answer is no, it wont hit the primary mob
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orly. thats sad :\
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post Jun 26 2012, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(-Aerin- @ Jun 26 2012, 11:32 AM)
500 isn't enough, u can buy some cheap LoH Rings and amulets off AH for <500k total and swap those in, makes reflect mobs EZPZ and u save a skill slot.
Then just use SS when you need to nuke with hatred dump to shrug off the burst dmg~


Added on June 26, 2012, 11:33 am

Think u can check page 2 or 3, was a topic I saw yesterday, I don't run SoT so Im not sure myself either


Added on June 26, 2012, 11:58 am

Rain check on that, there's ppl saying it does now - -
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i found a couple of threads but like u said, some say it does and some say it doesn't. rili dunno which one hmm.gif
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post Jun 26 2012, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(-Aerin- @ Jun 26 2012, 01:18 PM)
Well, I'd say if you're using it you're more concerned bout the aoe dmg which is what it's for, else DA is always the better dps choice~ haha
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yea main reason is for the aoe but was wondering if it's good against single target as well. i wonder about it since i think i saw double yelow numbers on one enemy once yesterday. DA is good but it depends on pierce to proc which is fixed value.
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post Jun 26 2012, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(-Aerin- @ Jun 26 2012, 02:27 PM)
I think i saw some number crunching threads where they were saying at 30% crit it's roughly 86% more dmg for single target, though off the top of my head I can't remember what the % increase was if you use DA instead.
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i dun understand. what are you talking about? the piercing chance of hungering arrow? the damage increase of devouring arrow with each successful pierce? the amount of damage increase when you crit? the amount of spray of teeth damage?

for piercing chance of hungering arrow and damage increase of DA (devouring arrow rite?) for each pierce they are both fixed at 35% chance and 70% damage increase per pierce respectively. they are not tied to crit chance in any way.

and if you are talking about damage increase of a critical hit they are no fixed value and is dependant on gear and some skills (?) to increase it with the base value being +50% damage.

for spray of teeth the damage value is fixed at 50% of the initial hit.

sorry but i really pening lolz
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post Jun 26 2012, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(-Aerin- @ Jun 26 2012, 03:22 PM)
It's alot of mathcraft where they calculate the overall dps increase when

1. you use SoT, which is the 50% extra when u crit, easy enough, calculation is based on assumption of 30% crit chance most the time so they can calculate an average median of times when you proc SoT to calculate the dps increase.

2. you use DA, which is where the number crunching is, because the pierce itself has a chance to trigger another pierce for another extra 70% and so on.
So it's not actually a flat 35% chance for 70%, but more than that due to extra pierces, and they also factor in if the pierce crits or does not crit etc.

It's a giant wall of mathcraft that I dont think you want to read through, haha.

TLDR - HA always better for 1 - 2 targets,
SOT better for AoE situations but will always lose in single target dept.

Math is all done assuming 30% crit chance iirc, anything lower and it's not worth using SoT
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lolz ok ok i get it. im not really interested in the overall damage increase between using DA or SoT or anything. just wanna know if SoT hits the initial target or not. i get it that DA is better in 1 vs 1 situation but what i want to know is whether SoT is utterly useless in 1 vs 1 or not.

hates math. ugh.
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post Jun 26 2012, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(-Aerin- @ Jun 26 2012, 03:49 PM)
Spray of Teeth: AOE is WORSE THAN BOLA SHOT ~176.9% single-target damage on average, and ~76.9% AOE damage on average, BUT ONLY ON CRITS; only use for single-target if crit rate >86.7%

^ From the thread, haha
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so it does hit the primary target?
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post Jun 26 2012, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(-Aerin- @ Jun 26 2012, 04:00 PM)
Yeap, looks like it smile.gif

Ill give it a spin later tonight maybe and see if I can verify it
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yah mebe i will try to confirm it myself as well.
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post Jun 28 2012, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ Jun 28 2012, 10:01 AM)
Hi veteran hunters ! I am approaching level 55 now and i now have no idea what attributes to look for weapons..I am currently using 2 handed bow.. Would appreciate some advices ! Thanks !
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DPS, Dexterity, Crit Damage.
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post Jun 28 2012, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(FireSnake @ Jun 28 2012, 01:16 PM)
and Gf%, cos u need tons of money to get those gears.
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and pay for the absurdly high repair cost.
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