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Davy123
post Aug 5 2012, 11:40 AM

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Yo guys,

WW/CM wiz here looking for party (prefer ww/cm using wormhole for fast runs). Wanting to farm act 2 smooth with 2 frost nova its gg for those bloody shielding maggots.

Im at 50+ mf, 23k dps, 23k hp, 5k+ armr/500RA+ buffed with pin point armor, 48%cc, 160%+ cd.

add me up pls..Thales#1564

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post Aug 6 2012, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Aug 5 2012, 11:49 AM)
so high ar and life cannot tank act3? sound.sufficient.leh.... or maybe bad elite affix... invulnerable shielding etc.. lol
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Cant act 3 la bro. Need 700ra, 7k armor, 600loh to not die lik cockroach..

[quote=yimingwuzere,Aug 6 2012, 12:20 AM]
I'm available for quick Vault of the Assassin runs if you play on weekday mornings/lunchtimes.

I play on evenings and weekends only =/
forever alone~

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post Aug 19 2012, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Aug 17 2012, 11:41 AM)
any wiz with frozen tornado build pass a3/4? I got a friend stucked at ghom for so long and now he desperate to clear that b4 1.04 kicks in.
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QUOTE(olman @ Aug 17 2012, 03:52 PM)
well he can join pub games to leech.

i owes join pubs to let them piggy back on me pass act 2 / 3, i dont mind cos i just play for fun

i remember one time, one of the team mate kena catch by siegebreaker and spit on, i kept freezing siegebreaker and he doesnt put the player down LOL
like wen after spitting he will throw the player down but freeze resets that  icon_idea.gif
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I done the bad ass ghom quest alrdy yurhur. Took some time to kite btw..haha..Bt i cant solo act 3 efficiently..keep dying..only can farm act 2..

So Olman,
Wat stats to efficiently farm act 3?

Im at 28k dps, 46.5cc(+3 frm scoundrel) or 50.5cc(if consider my +4%cc twister wand), 6k armor & 700ar buffed, 15+ APoc, 300+ LoH, running with
-ww
-safe passage
-cold snap
-crystal shell
-chain rxt
-prismatic
*blur
*cold blood
*cm

IGN: Thales#1564

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post Aug 23 2012, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Aug 22 2012, 03:01 PM)
Dunno about 1.04, but the last 1.03 run with Davy123 A3 ended in vein. Siegebreaker is easy with his still-work freezing, try to push to Azmodan but with the elites blocking the path, very scary even only surrounded by tons of scorpion...

Davy123 tonite we try again see A3 nerf how much?
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Hah bro, i tot u wana start barb?
Im using bubble, if bubble switch to teleport we might reach azmodan skipping almost everything..haha
Ytd too tired but will play tonight. Hopefully act 3 is easier.

QUOTE(peinsama @ Aug 22 2012, 10:50 PM)
to be honest i dont see which part wizard is nerfed. Mine telling me? Just because energy twister has its proc reduced?
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Proc rate of the famous CM/WW twister had drop from 0.25% to 0.125%. The chance to successfully crit with wicked wind dropped 1/4 fraction. What happens when your proc rate drops is that crit rate drops, APoC drops, cooldowns longer, slow DSkin FNova EB spamming, LoH drop. In short les survivability and less dps. But according to wat the forums said, if you have 43%cc+ and 1.6aspd, you dont feel much change than pre-1.04

Anyway, archon seems the most viable build now but u need to be a multimillionaire to run that build. Needs high armor, high resist, high LS, high crit chance and crit damage.

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post Aug 31 2012, 11:07 PM

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Dear cm/sc wiz out thr, act 3 don't really req much armor n ar. I'm no pro but I survive n farm efficiently with this stats

Do this:
700ar 6k armor buffed, 45% cc at least includes twister cc frm main or followers, 400 loh sufficient, 17 apoc atleast, 35k dps at least, 25k hp. 1.6 aspd recommended bt I'm at 1.4 and cool with it.

The thing is, the mor dps u hav the less u die bcos elites will b dead in 5-10+ seconds.
Use diamond shards rune instead of crystal shell- that's nearly 1.5-2 times mor dps
use evocation instead of blur- every second counts for a spammer.
Run tele with safe passage if ur spamming isn't fast.
U will never hav prob wit melee elites. Not entirely bt wil die few times per run especially imba range mobs.

Anyway, I'm looking for wizzies farm party. 2 shocking aspect wiz(with a barb warcry shocking aspect is at its best) ,1 archon wiz/dh,lastly the hero barbarian with warcry thT don't die a lot. We shud make full use of cm/sc before it gets nerfed. I shall post in the barb forums too =)

Cheers

Thales#1564 add me up pls

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post Sep 8 2012, 11:35 PM

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Lol rambo Olman, im thales..not khanethesun, he is anothr pro tanker freeze wiz call trojan..im that few ppl using shocknado.
Rarely see shocknado wiz in lyn =(

Anyway, is thr any updates on wiz nerf? i heard we freeze wiz are goin to b lousy in 1.05

pls add me up for act 3 runs..i like to do it fast altho i still die a few times =X
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Thales-1564/hero/7766445
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post Sep 9 2012, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(m0rph @ Sep 9 2012, 12:05 AM)
perma freeze wiz finding dps for act3/act4

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Trojan-6163/hero/21587944

m0rph = trojan#6163
kanethesun = kanethesun#6458
davy123 = thales#1564
and thales, nice source was looking for something like that with vit. need upgrade for dmg currently. >_<
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Lol paiseh, mistaken..thx not perfect though..
dont pump wiz yet until we get a certain news bout the nerf =(
You can jz play ur firewalking barb lar..haha

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post Sep 10 2012, 02:57 PM

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..and to identify the rares/legends w/o the retarded 5s dumb look.

I hope a new npc will replace cain to identify all items at once, jz lik d2, hahah.
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post Sep 12 2012, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(yeezai @ Sep 11 2012, 02:27 PM)
guys why wizard dps among the lowest in all class ah ?
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QUOTE(olman @ Sep 12 2012, 12:57 PM)
if u use source off hand instead of shield then u will oso have 60-70k dps
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No way to ocmpare which class has lowest dps. Dps is really gear dependant mayb a little help from skills.
If you want to see real damage, try shocking aspect rune from storm armor. you can see almost 5-7x faster kills comapred to prismatic armor.
In solo, I'm at 59k dps and can down azmodan in 15s with shocknado and diamond shard runes. Yes, that is like he dies after casting the first black pool.

So the paper dps isnt real, assmodan has 7.4m health divided by 15s that is roughly 450k + dps..not 59k dps.
So conclusion, dps paper doesnt mean anything at all, it is how well u can stand and dish out damage as fast as possible w/o dying of course.

check this forums for more shocking aspect infos, real helpful.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6413132148

Wah Olman your dps mor than me liao =X
damn u really should try shocking aspect. Dont do diamond shards, vry low survivability unless got 1.9aspd to perma frost ppl.
If 70k dps with shocknado and diamond shards, i magine u could down assmodan in less than 10s. O_O
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post Sep 12 2012, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Sep 12 2012, 01:14 PM)
hi thales, lollllll

now got 60K+ dps i only have 70K if i use familiar skill, but i use TP for saving meself.
i get dps boost thx to triumvirate lol

i havent try shock armor yet with this new dps now at work lulz
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Sep 12 2012, 01:19 PM)
>.< still need prismatic armor to boost AR.
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Buahaha, im so lucky im still stuying..got so much time free to do anything..
You very lucky la rambo, keep getting imba legends.
Got time go try shocking aspect..real imba dps..but really recommended 650+ar and 4.5k armor to survive.
Cant stand on molten/arcane lik having prismatic tho =(
But if got barb in party, fuiyoh very good.

Yah true, if you look at those ppl in the link i posted. Especially aimless or nitrocan. They have 450-500ra from equipments(exclude int and buffs)
So, achieve tht and u can run shocking aspect alrdy.
If no, then stick with prismatic. Its not bad actuly jz slower kill.
You can sit in 3x desc pools lik a boss.

Cheers.
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post Sep 12 2012, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 12 2012, 01:51 PM)
Yo Thales! When you want to complete Dia balo?
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Hahahah, summerfist u keep reminding me i havent complete the game.
I think i can make it solo, but act 4 so boring la, big, few elites, so many bosses.
Mayb will do it in party with friends later XD
Must finish b4 any new nerfs kicks in..haha

Time to hunt som legends =)
have fun working guys..hahah


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post Sep 24 2012, 03:08 PM

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Yo my brothers of the lore,

Cm isn't dead yet.
U jz nid 25apoc, 1.8aspd, 600loh, 43cc, mayb 30k dps abov cukup, 700/4000 ar/armor.
Run the shockbatu build bcos its proc rate is 2nd highest after Sc :

Meteor - liquify bcos 8s burning effect and acceptable proc rate. It's only 50ap and 1.25s to drop meteor post 105.
Tele - fracture cos u nid clones to help u tank. Wormhole nt recommended cos u dun wana end up on a pack w/o ap to drop Batu frm sky.
FN - cold snap. Som may say deep freez or bone chill but snap works best for me so far.
DS - prism. When in ds mode, spells u cast cost 7ap less. Need to xplain mor?
EBAY - CR. this is our bomb. Only 13ap when in ds mode.
Shocking aspect - mor dps since its buffed
Or energy armor - energy tap. Gives bonus 20 ap. or prismatic if u wana b harder.

Astral, cold blood and critical mass as passive.

You'll basically hav 130ap at least. See elite, turn ds, fracture clones out, cast 2 meteors(86ap) and watch the magic of cm returns. U may want ap reduce on meteor on source so u may drop mor Batu 1 shot. Do note thT the dps is insanely high cos meteor has 280% weapon dmg. But our survivability is less, nid kite abit. Abit doesn't mean 2-3 screens. It's still as Gud as previous cm/sc jz less survive.
I can play well with imba melee. Ph with chains,fast,molten if concentrate u won't die.
Imba range is a prob, tele,molten,chains the fat mages takes time n mayb som deaths.
And can't do korsik bridge liao. Can't fight with the fingering mobs and the birds. Rakkis n the rest r ok

Source :
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6572970635

Either Batu, spec blades, or archon I believe. Rest of the builds r toasted by gay Wilson.



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post Sep 25 2012, 06:02 PM

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Don't giv up on melee. It's doable, trust me. It takes awhile to learn to spam skills accordingly with kiting a few steps and not spamming 1234 while sitting in 3 desecretor lik our old god mode.

When 105 comes out, it's even easier since casting is 1sec only n 50 ap per Batu. The dmg is pretty insane. For now, the dps is almost near my previous shocknado 60k dps, can 10s kill stupid elites now at my lousy 47k dps. But when left solo mob it's slower dps ofc. It will b the next sc. I jz hope blizzard won't come and 'boom' nerf meteor.

Anyway, it's so lag n delay nowadays. damn.


Added on September 25, 2012, 6:05 pmWats ur battletag Wallance? Gonna add ya let's try to run?
Edit : Oh I jz saw it..add ya later..we shud play the very few last moments of godmode cm 2gethr with olman. Haha

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post Sep 26 2012, 02:01 PM

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Olman!

Shocknado ww still works. Jz tried 3-4 runs solo no followers at 2.1atk per sec,25+ apoc, 43cc,43k dps using wizspike to boost spd and if u want use the bubble pop stretchtime(+10%aspd). Assmodan died in 40s compared to my previous 15-20s kill. Ofc i died mor times in the run too.

This build http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;bWg!YYZccc

Diamond shards proc really helped in cooldowns.
Its really comparable to meteor killing spd.
When 1.05 kicks in with 3s initial freeze time, u can wind up 5-6 twisters and boom the hell out of those mobs.

Tried with minstrel tho, no luck with it. Seems lik the stationary ww procs better.
Problem is the fast moving and teleporting range elites, lik succubus tht manages to escaped the stacks of ww.
Other than tht, ww is still alive if u hav 25apoc and >2.0aps. Thats what i tot.
Wallance did said tht ww cannot b done at 1.6aspd. at 1.6-1.8aspd its preferable to do meteors. Above 1.9 aspd and 25apoc, ww really shines again.

This meteor build is comaparable to tht shocknado spd :
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;XWg!aYZZcb

cant decide on molten imp/star pact/liquefy..all seems good. showers are good too bt it cant hold and dmg single mobs good enuf.

edit : as conclusion, i tink its time to farm the 2 chants =)

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post Sep 26 2012, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Sep 26 2012, 02:13 PM)
srry but chants? what gear is that? rings?
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Chantado or chantalo cnt rmb. Its a set wand and source...the wand is 1.46aps, the orb give another 9% aspd.

and to add, the shocknado ww can facetank assmodan blackpool. Jz tele fracture to evade the fireballs. Mayb its bcos of the wizspike ar BUT meteor build i cant facetank assmodan, prismatic also cnt proc cm fast enuf to diamond skin n save my arss..

ww returns..ahahah
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post Sep 26 2012, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Sep 26 2012, 02:36 PM)
chanttodo will = wand
chantodo force = orb

u r welcum.

nyway u play in ptr?
nyway i bought a cheap ass chant wand LOL to test yes it more speed matters in reducing cd and loh proc. but wizardspkie is the fastest unless i complete chants set

acutally is hard for me to gain more speed items not cheap LOL , im low budget wiz
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Buy got crit 1 bro?

crit n cheap means u fatt tatt liao..hahah.
Try in 104 nia..105 is even mor imba for ww.

cheers thrs still hope for ww/cm afterall.
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post Sep 26 2012, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Sep 26 2012, 03:40 PM)
ok time to take a break from this game. quite depressing with the price ranges and item drops LOL
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wait till 105 comes out. They say in PTR, items roll better stats. eg: 6%cc rings and 80-100%cd amulets O_O
Then if u get those items can sell for usd100+ i guess..haha

Yah chants r real expansive. No joke, anyhow also nid to get it asap. Cos thr r still ppl using meteor builds. B4 every1 reaches 2.0aps faster get chants.

And nice jordan tho. Ppl lik the 25% dmg to elites. U rich liao. go get chants.

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post Sep 26 2012, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Sep 26 2012, 03:51 PM)
mine no crit dmg, no socket

just  a plain chant wand its the cheapest on the buyout  its 1-2 mill i cant remembver  maybe lesser than 1 mil:unsure:

since u noe i have wizardpike, i oso bought sloraks madness to test LOL  shakehead.gif
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Jz bought 1m chant wand too hahah. It looks a lot better and yeng than wizspike.

Anyway, can't lock single elit at 2.1 aspd. Might wana try 2.5 slowly.
Lacuni bracer, witching hour, boj angler boots, tal rasha pursuit, aspd rings n amulets and stretch time skill may jz help. They say stretch time can stack. 4 bubbles will grant 40% aspd. Haven't tested yet.
Hopefully can 80%lock boss too lik sc then mayb can fight infernal 2uber bosses Liao icon_idea.gif

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post Sep 27 2012, 12:17 PM

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Malaysian wizzies are all here :

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6679368378
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post Sep 28 2012, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(xiaosin @ Sep 28 2012, 11:31 AM)
mine cost around 290m with socket but its 0.25 roll
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Culu-1256/hero/1611830

not sure about oculus without apoc its quite cheap
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Omg i really am a jelly hater for rich ppl. Bought my chant wand 8xx dps 80cd at 30m today..Kinda cheap so i quickly sapu..

Lol, lucky i sell my meteor orb b4 the latest patch note. Haha, feel sory for the ppl that spend 100m, 200m, 300m then BOOM!! NERF METEOR..
But liquefy still can do it i guess..not much of reduction..


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