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 Wizard Discussion, Come, all ye arcanists

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post Jul 19 2012, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Jul 19 2012, 03:55 PM)
no comments on blizzard, some people love to use them till end game.
most wizards uses diamond skin, unless you are very lucky in loots you're so well geared you dont need to run on diamond skin. but then again, it's different for certain people

force armor is useless in inferno, if you need that it means you're not good at dodging/kiting or to position yourself in your game. but then again.. it doesn't really help too.
reason is that it doesn't work with most elites, neither bosses, try stand face to face with a boss elite with FA+diamond skin, brag about if if you can take at least 3hits.
*FA doesn't work for desecrators, poison pools, basically all the DoTs too.
secondly, mobs especially in act2 onwards, they dont deal damage in 1hit count, u get like 3slash combo, spiders and lacuni will give you multiple hits in a matter of seconds.
thirdly, you dont walk 20yards and get 1 mob in inferno, there are HORDES of mobs everywhere, if you're going to get hit/ganged by mobs, you expect to take maximum of 2-3hits? what about ranged mobs?

prismatic armor works even better when you have higher resist, true that. but if you only have 50-100 resist, you're not even fit for inferno yet, dont need to say which rune will benefit you better with your low resist.
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well, chii can take 2-3 hit from elites in act2 with diamond skin...."hardened shell", maybe take till 6-7 hits...

act 3 chii no go explore yet...too skedding...they alwiz cheat chii...

QUOTE(present me @ Jul 19 2012, 04:37 PM)
Do u using this kind of blizzard n hydra to inferno ??by solo..do u know this patch can slow the elite n mob n froggy n mosquito can survive smooth?? u just kite n kite until u get curse.. bro when u finish inferno just few week or last two month??? the new patch always new often... but player can use blizzard n hydra try kill then understand wht I say...
Do u this think AR 1k u won't die ants...don't even think u can survive kill mob, froggy n spider in the cave...kite n kite???  pls notice inferno killing the hard monster must as fast as u can ...ornot (out of time )I means. By wizd solo...
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froggy n spider in cave act 2 quite doable...need to kite like 5 - 10 sec, they die. act 1 no need mention. wiz solo.
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jul 19 2012, 04:52 PM)
i have around 800+ AR after buff but my dps only 11k sad.gif always take super long for killing a mob even i dont die..but act 2..sometimes the eli is crazy 1..impossible to win~
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u wrong lor, act 3 elite is crazy.
act 2 is do-able...normal
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post Jul 19 2012, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Jul 19 2012, 04:58 PM)
hahaha i also used to love FA, but act2 and act3 before and after patch also that crappy.
when i was new to act2, before patch, i went to find alcarnus, accidentally got scratched by his hammer, with FA and diamond skin also 1hit ko..
cave ones are pretty easy because of the narrow n fixed terrain.. probably prismatic armor suits me more than FA, because FA never worked out for me.
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sorry for confusing...chii meant, chii used prismatic with crystal shell to take 6-7 hits in act 2 from elites.
chii didnt use force armor long long time liao...

act 3 dangerous ma ? 1.1k AR and 5k armor....chii sked to go and die alot there...
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post Jul 19 2012, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Jul 19 2012, 05:29 PM)
My first Belial kill was with friends pre nerf, where the damage of monsters went up with every additional member. Our tank was dying in seconds but we did it anyway. That was a month+ ago.

Now, I outgear Act 2 by quite a bit. Belial is easy, Butcher is under 10 seconds. Its not really anything more than getting a few OK drops and getting lucky on the AH. I'm not particularly skilled, and I'm in no way a pro >.<
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oh....means chii can kill belial easily...chii is ready to go act 3?
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post Jul 19 2012, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(Sadrax @ Jul 19 2012, 08:41 PM)
i can solo belial easily but act 3 still a bit tough for me... hav to skip some elites  rclxub.gif
IMO offense > defense in act 3 / 4
last time i play defensive with around 900 ar cannot do anything in act 3  doh.gif  die easily
now switch to arcane orb crit build with critical around 140k~220k dmg at least can kill some elites...  sweat.gif
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chii dps is 50k clean without crit chance.....but chii still don't dare go act 3 altho act 2 is cruise mode liao
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post Jul 20 2012, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Jul 20 2012, 12:49 PM)
intel gives resist, but the bulk of your ressist cums from items with AR
and yes prismatic gives a big boost.

i owes run around with prismatic armor on


Added on July 20, 2012, 12:52 pm
wats ur weapon dps?

mine is 976.5 but i only manage to get 34k - 40k depending on gears i swap and skills
i oso in act 3, manyak hard
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weapon is 1350 dps with 100+ int on it. unbuff dps is 45k only....too poor to stack crit chance
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post Jul 21 2012, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Mercy Shadows @ Jul 21 2012, 02:24 PM)
Hello dear wizards.

Just sold a cool glove worth 12m..
Anyone can suggest what I should get with 12m?
Ive been browsing but sadly all those good gears which are obviously good are too expensive.. like 20m and shits.

What are the basic stats I should achieve in order to tank happily and not die in Act 3?

Ive not decided on going Twister-crit-frozen built
or arcane orb - crit built..

Please advise.

My current built is about 10k dps . 45% crit rate, 150% crit damage
Skills are
Diamond Skin - Crystal Shell
Frost Nova - Deep Freeze (not sure if this is good)
Slow Time - Time Warp (usually play with a team of 4)
Energy Twister - Wicked Wind
Energy Armor - Prismatic Armor (not sure if Force armor would be better) current resistance is all above 600, w/o buff
Explosive Blast - Chain reaction.

Sadly still die alot, im thinking i may be lacking of LOH,
Staying alive using diamond skin, hp regen 1200ps , 3.0% LOD.

What am I lacking of?
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chii dont think its possible to tank in act 3...even with buffed barbarian shout, chii get 1.7k/5k armor/36k hp also cannot tank...have to run like ayam
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post Jul 22 2012, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(Mercy Shadows @ Jul 21 2012, 07:28 PM)
So is this is a suggestible built where I should invest my gold into?
I hear some going for dps built, but those aren't cheap either.

What are your thoughts?
How will my hard earn 15m be best invested into getting easier farming? (after hours of grinding and grinding)

Is there anyone out there with a set of gears which is worth less than 15m but able to handle act 3 or at least farm happily without the frustration of waiting 23 seconds to able to play again?
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get some AR armor into ur mix of existing DPS gear, that should make survivability better.
but seriously those tanks u were saying were they using freeze/wicked wind build ? and their DPS ?
i've personally tested act 3 with the stats i said earlier and the mohlocks at the bridge hit me for like 8-9k ?
minding u that my AR is 1.6k & armor 5k, so i don't really think that u wont die in act 3 often due to these things. even act 3 spear goatmen can get me 4k perhit.

farming act 3 too much kiting & die too often & its just scary >.<

summoning dinodino123, 90k dpser to comment more plox.
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post Jul 23 2012, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(olman @ Jul 22 2012, 11:19 PM)
wtfish mang, stuck at act 3 light the beacon faiyah.

damn they hit so hard
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act 3 is tak logic
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post Jul 23 2012, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Dinodino123 @ Jul 23 2012, 12:10 PM)
supp?who is calling me?
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can we hear the exploits of a 90k dps wiz farming in act 3 ?

*starts interviews
can u take alot of hits in act 3 ?
do u solo or team up ?
what is ur stats currently ? crit chance/crit damage/AR/armor/hp ?
skillset ?
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post Jul 30 2012, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(geno @ Jul 30 2012, 12:14 PM)
VS fire chains. i usually tank them at choke points or  face tanked them if their other affix is manageable. Shield helps alot vs fire chains. The fire chains affix mob A.I. will always want to surround you. so stutter step while move back towards a choke point.

invulnerable you have to find choke points as well where the invulenerable minions cant hit you while u zerg down the rare.

How defense mechanic works in d3 is like this. When you take damage it filters down a list below.

Dodge > Armor > Reduction Skills (Iron Skin, Blur, etc) > Resistance > Barb/Monk 30% reduction > Shield Block > Absorption Skills (Diamond Skin, etc)
P/S: get a shield with good block rate + amount/armor/resist and some crit chance. shield block can mitigate fire chains if you having alot problems with it. i keep them in my inventory and swap with my source if i get a tough affix.
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ok....no wonder fire chains always get chii....
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post Jul 30 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Jul 30 2012, 02:24 PM)
chii oso using tanker build?
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chii using half tanker/half dps
can comfortably tank act 2/ and instant kill elites in archon act 2.

but chii cannot go act 3, either need tank, but chii ownself dps of 50k not enough for act 3.
so have been farming act 2 forever.
lol
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post Jul 30 2012, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Jul 30 2012, 04:03 PM)
haha tok about source, im using a blue source instead of a rare due to cost as usual  doh.gif


Added on July 30, 2012, 4:04 pm
omaigawd, 50k dps oso not guding for act 3 then minimum how much dps is needed for act3
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chii haz no idea....coz when chii go act 3, need to kite kau kau like noob. act 2 can stand there like a bawse.
really don't know how to advance.

chii now secretly collecting 1 hand dps set.
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QUOTE(geno @ Jul 30 2012, 04:30 PM)
Ok la quite good. crit chance 8.5 is max roll already. just missing ap on crit. maybe get it on wiz hat n wand. smile.gif
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act 3 tak logic.....1k resist/5k armor get hit by mochok fireball 10k.
chii dont wanna go act 3 liao
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post Aug 2 2012, 08:59 PM

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ya'll think this can sell in rmah?
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post Aug 3 2012, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Aug 3 2012, 08:16 PM)
wizardssss tonite we dine in inferno!!!
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chii veli veli disapoint in crit set without AR....die faster than fly
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post Aug 3 2012, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Aug 3 2012, 10:16 PM)
wiz to wiz

i feel u mon, yesterday i up my AR from 700+  >  1000-1200  +  33% chc  + 40k HP
feeling awesome in town looking at stats, feeling im ready to go out lite the beacon (Act3) with me freezer tanker build

as soon as i meet the 1st elite pack, me got me ass gangbanged (50k+ repair fees) doh.gif  doh.gif
now i learnt me lesson, continue farm act 1  sweat.gif
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chii dont know how to describe....but 70k dps crit chance on screen looks worse than 50k on with hydra killing em....

offloading crit chance/crit damage items nao

forever farm act2...foreverrrrr mang
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post Aug 15 2012, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(Zelda85 @ Aug 15 2012, 09:30 AM)
Is a normal cheap glove
armor 2xx
Int16x
cri rate 7.0
cri damage 25%
cold resistance 30%
gold find 16 %
something like this for 200k
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yes its normal.....too many ppl crafting gloves
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post Aug 22 2012, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Sadrax @ Aug 22 2012, 01:10 PM)
erm
80k dps (glass canon + force weapon + sparkflint)
35% critical chance
247% critical dmg
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seriously...its really so so....
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post Aug 22 2012, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Aug 22 2012, 02:47 PM)
So so also can do 1m damage, if not so so...
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just throw in 10m, u can get 80k dps.
amulet 8% cc
off hand 8% cc
1 hand 170% cd around 3-5m
glove 10% cc
bracer 6% cc

only problem is if it don't crit......then gg

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