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Wizard Discussion, Come, all ye arcanists
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Vorador
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Jul 19 2012, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(Sadrax @ Jul 19 2012, 10:19 AM) nope he is not even my hydra can kill inferno belial i just need to avoid his attack alright then... thanks for the info  I'm having real hard time in act 2... I swap out my spark flint and now my dps left 30k... current skill is: - Electrode - Venom Hydra - Hail Storm - Meteor (Ice Meteor) - Force weapon - Diamond Skin Lots of ppl suggest using force armor is a better choice in high level area, but I can't survive it... ...
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Vorador
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Jul 19 2012, 01:45 PM
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ok so force armor is crap then? personally i got killed all the time when force armor on.... i still need diamond skin....
btw how u guys boost your dps? nonstop pumping int?
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Vorador
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Jul 19 2012, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(paranoid @ Jul 19 2012, 03:55 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « no comments on blizzard, some people love to use them till end game. most wizards uses diamond skin, unless you are very lucky in loots you're so well geared you dont need to run on diamond skin. but then again, it's different for certain people
force armor is useless in inferno, if you need that it means you're not good at dodging/kiting or to position yourself in your game. but then again.. it doesn't really help too. reason is that it doesn't work with most elites, neither bosses, try stand face to face with a boss elite with FA+diamond skin, brag about if if you can take at least 3hits. *FA doesn't work for desecrators, poison pools, basically all the DoTs too. secondly, mobs especially in act2 onwards, they dont deal damage in 1hit count, u get like 3slash combo, spiders and lacuni will give you multiple hits in a matter of seconds. thirdly, you dont walk 20yards and get 1 mob in inferno, there are HORDES of mobs everywhere, if you're going to get hit/ganged by mobs, you expect to take maximum of 2-3hits? what about ranged mobs?
prismatic armor works even better when you have higher resist, true that. but if you only have 50-100 resist, you're not even fit for inferno yet, dont need to say which rune will benefit you better with your low resist.  The last one made me sad...  my resist are all 400 ++, however I can farm inferno act 1 (act 1 only) very comfortably. (including solo butcher) i dunno why although have high int, my resist still that low...  dunno what's wrong with my wizzard's build. (Try to balance btwn dps - survivability -GF/MF)
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Vorador
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Jul 19 2012, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Jul 19 2012, 04:56 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I guess it really boils down to individual preferences. Some people are comfortable with kiting, some prefer to tank. I personally disagree that most wizards use diamond skin. I know plenty of wizards who don't and do well in Act 3/4, with decent gear (not superman level of items).
I wouldn't call force armor useless either. I ran with it in Act 3 pre nerf, when I had really bad gear, and I used Illusionist too (which you mentioned was not worth it, iirc). It got me through Act 3 just fine. DoTs really should be avoided, that's all there is to it. Desecrator doesn't tick immediately, poison doesn't kill immediately. Those cases where you get jailed in a desecrate is another issue altogether. Force armor is really for those 'oh crap can't dodge' moments, and being able to take a hit rather than falling over dead the moment a mob breathes on you is always worth something, no?
Otherwise, I tend to agree that you shouldn't take hits as a wizard. Melee wizards, meh. Roll a barb, guys. pro wizard detected! i can't even pass through act 2... btw are u able to solo belial? This post has been edited by Vorador: Jul 19 2012, 05:20 PM
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Vorador
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Jul 19 2012, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Jul 19 2012, 05:29 PM) My first Belial kill was with friends pre nerf, where the damage of monsters went up with every additional member. Our tank was dying in seconds but we did it anyway. That was a month+ ago. Now, I outgear Act 2 by quite a bit. Belial is easy, Butcher is under 10 seconds. Its not really anything more than getting a few OK drops and getting lucky on the AH. I'm not particularly skilled, and I'm in no way a pro >.< omg... so this game is all about ur weapon's raw dmg...
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Vorador
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Jul 20 2012, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(lytros @ Jul 20 2012, 01:52 PM) Now in the Inverno Hall of Agony. Sweats... before that multiple deaths with a number of elites, but the one that really annoyed me were some elite spiderlings with molten+frozen+jailer. They are fast!  ooo that's strange, tot hallS of agony don't have spiderling/ burrower?
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