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 Wizard Discussion, Come, all ye arcanists

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jenniferjen
post Jun 27 2012, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(biatche @ Jun 27 2012, 03:32 AM)
super waste time. i this time did 5 buff 330+ mf (no item swap) with wiz against diablo

1 lvl52 rare and rest lvl60-62 blue. not even one 63.

takes a very long time to kill gg..
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Weakest point of D3, is not worth at all farming for boss, go for the elite
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post Jun 27 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(joeong @ Jun 26 2012, 01:59 PM)
^^ bros tried the wicked wind build.
fantastic. multiple casts of twister on 1 spot do stack. but the critical numbers for some reason are white in color so u cant see them proc very clearly. but confirmed that they do proc kaukaukau. Wixked wind is like blizz dmg 280% over 6 seconds but just imagine the damage like stacking 5 blizzard on 1 spot lol. my dps only 13k and act 3 with 4 players in party no problem for me to go jalan jalan exploring alone! (except some elites still abit tough) gargoyles kite me kaukau...

using this exact build recommended by myriel.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;gab!YZccYa
only diff is i changed Evocation -> Temporal Flux

^wow very nice dps items. I recommend finding a high life on hit weapon (800+ LOH) but it will be superduper expensive....
not sure what other things you should change. the biggest change will be if u change your weapon.
others all minimal changes only.

btw bros heres a super useful link my fren gave me
http://www.d3rmt.com/guides/diablo-3-item-...maximum-values/
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This is a really good guide
http://www.d3rmt.com/guides/diablo-3-item-...maximum-values/

Ask admin pin it up please?


Added on June 27, 2012, 11:39 am
QUOTE(JAYworm @ Jun 25 2012, 06:24 PM)
Seems we cant go for both glass cannon or tanker wizard unless we are ultra rich.
Imagine a item with
150int
150vit
+70 resistance to all
+ crit chance by 5%
+ crit damage by 50%
these kind of item normally cost 100m atleast  :sweat

Btw im a tanker wizard with 7k armor, 800 physical resists, 650+ all resists, 30+% damage reduction from melee.
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Nice stats oh.

Im also a DPS and tanker wizard.

8.5k armor, 800+ All Resist, 31% block 3k-4k dmg. No problem can tank elite in act 2-5 already.
Finally i understand it need shield to block if u have +block% in ur items. such as helm of command.


Added on June 27, 2012, 11:41 am
QUOTE(fizyboy @ Jun 26 2012, 09:10 AM)
Re-geared my wiz for more def now

HP 30k
Armor 5k
All Resist 800

DPS
- 31k unbuffed
- 35k + Force Weapon
- 39k + FW + Sparkflint

act 1 & 2 is easy mode for me now but still can't make the transition to act III D:<

I think I will drop the all resist to 500 (so that it will be 1:10 ratio) and get more DPS but I just not sure where to start!
I'll post my gears later so you guys can halp me on which item to upgrade.  icon_question.gif
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get string of ears for belt biggrin.gif 20% damage reduction from melee or get a shield u can tank already.
but u need crit mass passive with diamond skin.

This post has been edited by paogiv3r: Jun 27 2012, 11:41 AM
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post Jun 27 2012, 03:35 PM

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Inferno act 1 ,I farm like hell just repair. My all armor almost 31k,my wizard damage13k armor 7600 within energy armor i was press hp20k regeneration per second life 1550 do u all think i inspect any problem?
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QUOTE(present me @ Jun 27 2012, 03:35 PM)
Inferno act 1 ,I farm like hell just repair. My all armor almost 31k,my wizard damage13k armor 7600 within energy armor i was press hp20k regeneration per second life 1550 do u all think i inspect any problem?
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Inferno you farm like hell O_o ??
why so hard bro...

DPS = 15k is good
Armor = 5k is good already
AResist = 500-600 is good already

probably is ur skill settings? and your built play?


Added on June 27, 2012, 3:49 pm
QUOTE(Dinodino123 @ Jun 25 2012, 11:59 AM)
i got 1 900+ dps weapon lvl reduced 14 so it will help u to boost ur dps to make ur lvling easier offer me a price if u are interested i can sell it to u...
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900 DPS 1H O_O ??


Added on June 27, 2012, 3:51 pm
QUOTE(Szzz @ Jun 21 2012, 02:50 PM)
if i use bliz/hydra, my mana is almost everytime full...1 crit with magic missile gives me 20 arcane...i can almost spam blizz with unrelenting storm
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then switch ur primary mouse1 to a spell attack.


Added on June 27, 2012, 3:53 pm
QUOTE(Chobits @ Jun 25 2012, 02:10 PM)
Ok...Build check

What is the trend now for wiz ?

Chii is still stacking Attack speed as #1 priority for DPS....is that good ?

Currently using 2H 1379 Blue weapon.

have 41k dps (force weapon)
30k hp
600 all resist (prismatic armor 800)
armor 3.7k (energy armor)

btw, force armor or prismatic armor better ?
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for your case prismatic better.
force armor do no good like that

This post has been edited by paogiv3r: Jun 27 2012, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(paogiv3r @ Jun 27 2012, 04:46 PM)
Inferno you farm like hell O_o ??
why so hard bro...

DPS = 15k is good
Armor = 5k is good already
AResist = 500-600 is good already

probably is ur skill settings? and your built play?


Added on June 27, 2012, 3:49 pm

900 DPS 1H O_O ??


Added on June 27, 2012, 3:51 pm

then switch ur primary mouse1 to a spell attack.
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I try to change my skill first, Cos I ply always solo somemore until my armor crack repair almost 31k freaking off me..framing not enough to repair lol....
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post Jun 27 2012, 05:30 PM

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Why you guys so big tank. I clear entire act 4 map with just 3000 armor 23k hp and 300 res
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post Jun 27 2012, 05:37 PM

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u superduper high dps & vit?
i play tank cos its damn fun.
and also i dont have enough $ for good dps gear yet. very expensive

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post Jun 27 2012, 06:01 PM

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47k dps only. Just high mf
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post Jun 27 2012, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(biatche @ Jun 27 2012, 05:30 PM)
Why you guys so big tank. I clear entire act 4 map with just 3000 armor 23k hp and 300 res
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so chii can stand in front the elites, and pewpewpew them like a bawse !!!
btw what is ur build ? crit chance+crit damage build ?

farming act 2 is it worth it ? kulle story bro, seems nice.
cause chii have been pewpewpewing act 1 for 1 week....with almost 0 death, well some due to like a bawse attitude.

@paogiver
what build u using now? crit chance+crit damage build ?
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post Jun 27 2012, 09:46 PM

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yea crit chance, crit dmg, mf build.

im not very sure, but it does seem as if act 2 and act 4 drop more amulet/rings... while act 3 drop more armor/weapon gears.

i can be wrong but it does seem to be that way by luck or by design.

btw do you wiz tankers think this is a good item for you? please see file attachment
i searched for this with crit chance... and it seems like a very rare item heh.

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post Jun 27 2012, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(biatche @ Jun 27 2012, 05:30 PM)
Why you guys so big tank. I clear entire act 4 map with just 3000 armor 23k hp and 300 res
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I just dont like keep dying, since some of the attack we cant dodge.
But now i think i sacrifice too much damage for defence, might sacrifice bit defence for damage.


Added on June 27, 2012, 10:51 pm
QUOTE(biatche @ Jun 27 2012, 09:46 PM)
btw do you wiz tankers think this is a good item for you? please see file attachment
i searched for this with crit chance... and it seems like a very rare item heh.
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Using helm of command, 169int 90vit 69all res 8%block biggrin.gif

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post Jun 28 2012, 01:01 AM

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sory..if it already mention but i cant find the answer

thinking of upgrading my weapon to

is it better to buy

a) 986dps weapon with 266-638 element dmg OR
b) 986 dps weapon with 204 min dmg + 301 max dmg

or both the same bcos both is 986 dps? btw both is a wand
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post Jun 28 2012, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(lthock @ Jun 28 2012, 01:01 AM)
sory..if it already mention but i cant find the answer

thinking of upgrading my weapon to

is it better to buy

a) 986dps weapon with 266-638 element dmg OR
b) 986 dps weapon with 204 min dmg + 301 max dmg

or both the same bcos both is 986 dps? btw both is a wand
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What are the other stats on these? 204-301 matching the dps of a weapon with 266-638 means it either has a bonus % to damage, or it has increased attack speed. If you want proper advice it's best to post the full stats.
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post Jun 28 2012, 10:26 AM

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hello new to the forum and this will be my 1st post yoroshiku~

Ive seen the crit build tanking with crit.mass passive and frost nova build and tried it myself. Can face tank most elite but stuck on shielding affix as when the bubble is up frost nova wont freeze them so was wondering how ppl handle these guys. Also had problem with the wasp thing in act 2 cry.gif

My stats currently looks like this
Crit chance:20%
All resist:600 ish after prismatic armor
Armor:6k
DMG:19k~
life /sec:400~
LoH:200

Skill used
Spectral Blade: the healing rune
Meteor : Star pact
Prismatic armor
magic weapon: life steal rune
Diamond skin :double absorb
frost nova :reduce cd
(sry didnt remember the skill name sweat.gif )

Crit chance/LoH is low but want to see if i can do this playstyle correctly before investing more gear into this playstyle. Can clear inferno act1 no problem other than the shielding affix type but have trouble in act2 again with the same affix n the wasp , not sure how to handle these guys sad.gif




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post Jun 28 2012, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(blizzaraetx @ Jun 28 2012, 10:26 AM)
hello new to the forum and this will be my 1st post yoroshiku~

Ive seen the crit build tanking with crit.mass passive and frost nova build and tried it myself. Can face tank most elite but stuck on shielding affix as when the bubble is up frost nova wont freeze them so was wondering how ppl handle these guys. Also had problem with the wasp thing in act 2  cry.gif

My stats currently looks like this
Crit chance:20%
All resist:600 ish after prismatic armor
Armor:6k
DMG:19k~
life /sec:400~
LoH:200

Skill used
Spectral Blade:  the healing rune
Meteor          : Star pact
Prismatic armor
magic weapon: life steal rune
Diamond skin        :double absorb
frost nova            :reduce cd
(sry didnt remember the skill name  sweat.gif )

Crit chance/LoH is low but want to see if i can do this playstyle correctly before investing more gear into this playstyle. Can clear inferno act1 no problem other than the shielding affix type but have trouble in act2 again with the same affix n the wasp , not sure how to handle these guys  sad.gif
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You kite, basically. Shielding aint the worst yet at least there is timer for that. What about Invulnerable minions? Sometimes being tank does not mean stand and whack.

People don't use starpact now, try energy twister > wicked wind + AP on crit helm.

The return AP is so much that you can ignore signature spells totally. (might get nerfed in the near future tho)

I tried and it worked. You won't see the crit dmg but it's there.

Being a wizard tank is awesome and fun. If your gears are beefed up so well, with barb and monk's buffs, you could hit 1500+ resist all. smile.gif
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QUOTE(biatche @ Jun 27 2012, 09:46 PM)
yea crit chance, crit dmg, mf build.

im not very sure, but it does seem as if act 2 and act 4 drop more amulet/rings... while act 3 drop more armor/weapon gears.

i can be wrong but it does seem to be that way by luck or by design.

btw do you wiz tankers think this is a good item for you? please see file attachment
i searched for this with crit chance... and it seems like a very rare item heh.
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wah so rich blink.gif
Can you post all the eq you wearing so can act as reference and buy stuff which come to near r eq.
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QUOTE(kayzie @ Jun 28 2012, 10:41 AM)
You kite, basically. Shielding aint the worst yet at least there is timer for that.  What about Invulnerable minions? Sometimes being tank does not mean stand and whack.

People don't use starpact now, try energy twister > wicked wind + AP on crit helm.

The return AP is so much that you can ignore signature spells totally. (might get nerfed in the near future tho)

I tried and it worked. You won't see the crit dmg but it's there.

Being a wizard tank is awesome and fun. If your gears are beefed up so well, with barb and monk's buffs, you could hit 1500+ resist all. smile.gif
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Yeah invulnerable minion is bad, hm guess more practice with this build then since been playing with blizz/venom build for so long now.

Notice u mention that i wont see the crit dmg meaning the dmg will show in white color? but its still crit n procs critical mass? cause notice some spell never show yellow(crit dmg)dmg so thought some spell cant crit.
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QUOTE(blizzaraetx @ Jun 28 2012, 12:12 PM)
Yeah invulnerable minion is bad, hm guess more practice with this build then since been playing with blizz/venom build for so long now.

Notice u mention that i wont see the crit dmg meaning the dmg will show in white color? but its still crit n procs critical mass? cause notice some spell never show yellow(crit dmg)dmg so thought some spell cant crit.
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Yeap. When energy twister > wicked wind hit targets only white dmg appears. But your AP is filling up fast. You know you're doing crits.

I say at least get around 25 - 30 crit % to be effective.

If you like to experiment, try frost nova > +15 crit % when hit 5 targets rune (Deep freeze rune).

When hitting a large pack of elite/rares, especially those with illusionist, they're basically frozen the entire time while surrounding you because your nova refreshed in a split sec. Lol.

smile.gif

This post has been edited by kayzie: Jun 28 2012, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Jun 28 2012, 09:21 AM)
What are the other stats on these? 204-301 matching the dps of a weapon with 266-638 means it either has a bonus % to damage, or it has increased attack speed. If you want proper advice it's best to post the full stats.
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didnt manage to copy the entire list stats..but i m sure there is a +%dmg..cant remeber now..

and cant find back the weapons anyway..

just a fast question element dmg better or min + max dmg better ? if both weapon dps are roughly the same
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post Jun 28 2012, 04:48 PM

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element is just aesthetic, has nothing to do with the weapon's dps.. except cold which has the numbing effect.

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