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post Jul 26 2012, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Jul 26 2012, 01:09 PM)
500 dps with loh 597 is enough.. Overpower (Crushing Advance) just let your HP down to 20% press overpower.. your HP will full again.. repeat until u win  biggrin.gif
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Helo may I regard barb skills overpower(crushing advance )n revenge ( active ) wht is different, cos when I hits I was pressing it.non stop..when revenge active ...?which one better can survive.. I get confused sometime?
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post Jul 26 2012, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jul 26 2012, 04:23 PM)
Revenge is like u get hit then u can click it.
crushing power got cooldown.
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So when I killing my Hp drop at the moment, yes revenge get hurt when I press active, but my hp cant cover 50% ,if I killing, my Hp was dropping I can use overpower get full Hp cover?
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post Jul 26 2012, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(lamefish @ Jul 26 2012, 04:41 PM)
If you have decent amount of crit% like let say 40-60% range, use Overpower(Crushing advance).

All the crits u deal will lower the cooldown to a point almost spammable otherwise just use Overpower(Revel) to get your hp back up real quick.
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lamefish..my c.c 45% c.dmg340% so which wan I survive when I killing hp getting drop ,so recover my hp back again n again ...usually now using revenge active,but cant survive on the end..?


Lamefish...I love ur inspect ur barb...may I know ur dps can until 200k above was buffed ? wht skill u buff it to dps Max...my inspect just 50dps 31Hp ar600buff c.c45% c.dmg 340%..can buff dmg max 100k above?
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post Jul 26 2012, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(Aura @ Jul 26 2012, 04:59 PM)
Overpower with Crushing Advance rune highly depend on LoH while Revenge highly depends on total HP since it is % based....
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Iayah I no LoH I just use freezy hit gain life, revenge active n life reg 150 only.... can survive.... facing possible enemy ??


Added on July 26, 2012, 4:16 pm
QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2012, 05:05 PM)
Revenge also depends on how many enemy hits you receive.
If you are surrounded by 5-6 monsters, you will have greater HP recovery.
If only one monster hits you, the HP recovery is quite negligible.
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no wonder taty yesterday I facing elite just of 3 unit run fast around me I hits less cant near them, too hurt the fire chain n vortex so I can't recover my hp back.... if u think in my situation use overpower can cover my hp?

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post Jul 26 2012, 04:58 PM

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[quote=ALeUNe,Jul 26 2012, 05:21 PM]
For my case, overpower is useful to counter certain elites only.
Based on my experience, it is useful to counter those poisonous attacks.

It is difficult to comment since I do not know what kind of elite monsters you encountered.

P/S By the way, do you have LOH? You need LOH for Overpower (CA) to work


I dont have LoH 0% I facing mosquito vortex, arcane,ice exploxe,fire chain.....kite n kite but i solution it ..nvm try this overpower training first.... thks...
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post Jul 26 2012, 05:39 PM

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[quote=ALeUNe,Jul 26 2012, 05:21 PM]
For my case, overpower is useful to counter certain elites only.
Based on my experience, it is useful to counter those poisonous attacks.

It is difficult to comment since I do not know what kind of elite monsters you encountered.

P/S By the way, do you have LOH? You need LOH for Overpower (CA) to work.



I dint have LoH... I facing mosquito vortex. fire chain
,arcane.. but finally I done it..I try to use overpower training first... thks alot ur opinion...


Added on July 26, 2012, 7:05 pm[quote=ALeUNe,Jul 26 2012, 06:00 PM]
Without LOH, I wonder how Overpower (CA) will work for you.
Share with us how it goes then.
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Sure I show my spect let's shave v ur, see any weak of my barb.. soon...let u sifu teach some....

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post Jul 27 2012, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2012, 06:00 PM)
Without LOH, I wonder how Overpower (CA) will work for you.
Share with us how it goes then.
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my barb did u see any LoH...but i still cant tank too long...mostly the fire chain...so did u can gift some opinion any weak from my inspect....


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post Jul 27 2012, 01:49 PM

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Thks for all of u shave v me ...I try to change some gear for tank,I know my armor was weak ,but yes really cant tank at all... some elite I can't near of them also... but if I change my tank gear Around AR800 hp 40k around n life regeneration but my dps will drop alot can survive facing tank... ?


I have one question to ask, may I know where the equipment have LoH, weapon or any armor?
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post Jul 27 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 27 2012, 02:55 PM)
weapon mostly

some armor do have LOH too, most of them legendaries
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However thks... but I was saw alot player use barb dint have LoH at all , less life regeneration n armor around 7k also... I can't imagine how to survive a2 a3 a4 ..
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post Jul 27 2012, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 27 2012, 03:41 PM)
Weapon, amulet, rings.


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You need WW+LOH combo.
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Ok so I wan share v u all one... question is did u came of cross experience for barb tank mostly u boost ur AR...u search from AH did u find all res only, physical n all Res,poison n all Res n fire n all res ?

further up u will boost AR normally u will satisfied w/o (warcry)how much ?
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post Jul 27 2012, 04:08 PM

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[quote=ALeUNe,Jul 27 2012, 04:19 PM]
My best armor and AR for my Barb was, 11K+ armor and 1500AR (after War Cry + Mantra of Healing), I couldn't tank too.
If I leaped, it would be 33K+ armor + 1500AR, I could tank for 3 seconds. laugh.gif


Wah... ur AR 1k above also cant tahan n armor so high somemore ...play in a3 a4 so possible...if i build hp high, life reg n LoH cant recover my hp to facing monster.... my party use monk ar 800, hp 30k around
no LoH dps20k ,use shield... n use his skills...he can tank more then 5second.... I hope I rebuild I can tank abit n kill like cow........ I don't like ww build like belle dance .. disgusting hahaha.....

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post Jul 29 2012, 01:30 PM

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I was rebuild my gear now did u guy experience for barb pls give some opinion to me... 31k Hp, Ar 800-900,Life reg 1380,LoH 800,life steal 3%,but dps low just 20k only, did u sifu i have any weak ?.....by the way I can survive a3 ,if elite had jailer, fire chain, arcane, extra health ice explore... have bit difficult, I need kite n kill ..
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post Jul 29 2012, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Snowcap @ Jul 29 2012, 02:50 PM)
uh i started to become weird.

i am level 59, with 20k hp

low dps - 3k
with 4k armor
200 AR.
how come you guys manage to get everything high  sweat.gif
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Last time I like u in hell mode I just wear 54level item. Only 16hp ,Ar150 ,life regeneration 300,8dps only I can pass hell mode, but come to inferno more difficult then hell mode ×3...I also wan learn from barb sifu teach me....
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post Jul 29 2012, 06:14 PM

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AR800-900 is buffed or unbuffed? What's your armor?
If you can survive A3, you will be able to do A4.
It is normal to have a difficulty to kill elites. It's normal.

my AR 800-900 Already buffed ,ARMOR 7k. Only, but I survive at that moment was co-op, izit good enough.... some time I facing elite possible I wont stick one area from elite kill, I need ply some style to kill them like leap over monster behind...


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QUOTE(amiranna @ Jul 29 2012, 04:43 PM)
i think u need to top up your HP, 40-50k H.. dps is enough, i finish act 3 and 4 with 18k dps only
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OK...if I boost hp, do u think my life regeneration was 1380 can fast recover it... ?

I notice it I use hp like now 31k recover feel ok.. when i was kite n rune, if I gonna boost hp more higher, scare recover slow.... did u?


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post Jul 29 2012, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 29 2012, 07:25 PM)
I couldn't go solo with 20K DPS / 10K Armor / 800AR / 45K HP (all unbuffed).

It is expensive to maintain a Barb.
Do you have the resources to upgrade your DPS?
If you have the resources, go revamp your gears and push up your DPS/LOH/HP.
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Now I rebuild this second time I repair just31k only, when I build the first when I post my inspect share v u,I focus dps c.chance n c.dmg only totally cant tank at all n repair 45k expensive... In my situation now second rebuild my gear I can tank very long above 2minute sometime n I feel now want build LoH until 1k n my Ar900 about... for hp high then now I this k no need, if I go every stuff go high my gear, is not repair expensive, is Ah stuff crazy expensive.. I cant get all perfectly... just I wan can pass this diablo only.....


However thks for ur opinion n share v me alot....
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QUOTE(Aura @ Jul 30 2012, 11:17 AM)
It's obvious that ur stats is not balanced.... U need more HP for now to survive longer.... If u dun wanna pump ur DPS, then u need to pump more HP.... Simple as that.... at 20k DPS, it's quite sufficient to complete the game solo.... But at 45k HP, I think u would be better off to have a little more DPS rather than HP.... Why not try pumping ur DPS to at least 30k and c what's the result... I'm very sure that with 30k DPS min with 45k HP, u will complete the game easily..... If u can't complete still, then look at ur skills and also revise on ur playstyle.... Most likely u r cycling ur cooldowns wrongly...
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Yesterday I was a3 co-op in ghom boss place they, really too much enemy n possible elite they, fortunately v have one barb using wwind skills to help us to finish it v ghom boss also... yes I 31k hp really not good enough, I gonna try boost my hp n no choice I try learn wwind build. at that moment killing ghom v all death just one of barb using wwind skill to finish poison crap,but for dps if i boost higher i wil drop something means AR or life reg ... now my Ar 900-1K buffed ,life reg 1200,LoH 1k ,armor7k,dps maintance 21k...now I notice really not easy facing a3 a4.....
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 30 2012, 04:21 PM)
Honestly speaking, you have good stats, 900-1K AR / 7K Armor / 1K LOH / 1.2K regen.
If you have 20K DPS, it should be good enough for you to complete the game, at least in co-op game.

A3/A4 are meant to be difficult, especially for Barb.
You need to chase the monsters to make your 1st hit. It is pain-in-the-ass.
To make your life easier, get a monk (with Mantra of Healing - Time of Need) and a wizard (with Frost Nova + Diamond Skin + Wicked Twister) in your team and I think you are good to go.

Let me know if you need a Monk service.  laugh.gif
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Lol..... service from ur monk ...yesterday I meet a few barb very good performance, but monk less performance when I meet, I know u must powerful monk... smile.gif thks for u all first ...
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post Jul 30 2012, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jul 30 2012, 05:22 PM)
he is good, i team with him daily now.
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So facing inferno like hell mode lol....kill com4table v eat snack.... let me training first hope one day can i join u all...


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QUOTE(keenie @ Jul 30 2012, 05:59 PM)
Add me guys Daddy#6706
Wish to play in co-op with u guys. Solo is boring LOL =]

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yah I feel so... join public I can see Alot different player different performance... so interesting...

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Wah... now u realize learn tornado style really repair alot... ones mistake wait die... I so noob lol.., gear I have, skill tornado still learning, do u any sifu can teach me step by step tornado skill means wwind...?
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QUOTE(keenie @ Aug 3 2012, 08:32 PM)
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Guys, please give some advices to imporve =]
Like which gear to change etc.

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Bro u wan solo at a3, a4... I was came across alot sifu teach me from here, from ur gear must AR 900,40k Hp....above... mine AR 900,42K HP, DPS 36k,LoH 1400,life regeneration 500,armor 6k, c.chance 47%,c.dmg 210%,all buffed using dual welding, wwind build even at a3 cant survive by solo.... I need co-op... if ur gear higher then me I think u can solo good luck.... .


Notice ur skills now at a3 ghom boss Place, if u facing elite have jailer, Waller, u stuck in corner wait die, u must have (leap or rune ) for runaway.... .


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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Aug 4 2012, 06:07 PM)
Played with ALeUNe and JackLee at Act3 last nite, all played melee classes and ended up chasing range elites/champions like mad, sometimes chase until enrage lol. Seriously for co-op game we need at least one range class to deal with those range elites/champions with lame affixes.
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Lol....chase elite until enrage.... like children play ground.... lmao....


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QUOTE(AdamNg @ Aug 4 2012, 05:57 PM)
After a while try in inferno, its so difficult. My Barb cannot stand. Need a lot kite, repair cost to high....need a lot of times, dying no need to tell... countless.

Then trying public game for the first time, and I find it is really enjoying. Can help me passing thru the level, can find so much gold, so many items...and the most important is the team helping each other.
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Yah is true.. last time I was like u solo... if joined public u can see alot different hero performance....

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