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post May 21 2012, 09:57 AM

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LVL 55 Barbarian reporting in. Weeeeeeeee!
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post May 21 2012, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(Patchy @ May 21 2012, 09:58 AM)
Hey guys, few questions for u all...

- If i use a follower, does my Exp get cut by half to share with him?

- notice most of u all go for 2H / 1+1H. Not many ppl use shield? I'm level 28 on Normal and been trying to use 1+1 so far, but when comes to boss or party i sometimes swap back to shield. I'm having trouble with Belial now though, whether in a party or whether with shield or without. Tips please??
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-Don't think exp is shared though. You can always try and check the exp bar manually with and without the follower.

-Sword and board is needed for later levels. I feel that in Hell I need to swap to sword and board. The damage is insane. Belial is kinda tough. Maybe you are underleveled or using the wrong skills. Maybe you can post what skills you are using?


Added on May 21, 2012, 10:06 am
QUOTE(Patchy @ May 21 2012, 09:58 AM)
Hey guys, few questions for u all...

- If i use a follower, does my Exp get cut by half to share with him?

- notice most of u all go for 2H / 1+1H. Not many ppl use shield? I'm level 28 on Normal and been trying to use 1+1 so far, but when comes to boss or party i sometimes swap back to shield. I'm having trouble with Belial now though, whether in a party or whether with shield or without. Tips please??
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Just googled this lol.

How to Kill Diablo 3 Belial with Barbarian

The Barbarian, even though is a very stout and tough character class, is still subject to Belial’s ferociousness. Make sure to have an extra emphasis on survival/ vitality.

Make good use of healing skills for extra survivability. Skills such as Revenge, Nerves of Steel, Ignore pain with emphasis on vitality will help keep you alive.
Frenzy is an excellent single target attack for killing Belial.
Threatening Shout and Battle Cry are useful to use as well along with Inspiring Presence for extra heals.

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post May 21 2012, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(don^don @ May 21 2012, 10:10 AM)
guys, advice for skill usage for nightmare? i'm using bash with stun rune. i love cleave and frenzy but they're just not good enough for killing those long hp mobs. sweat.gif

and advise for passive skills plz. lvl 40. i've got 1.2k dps with 9k hp. i dunno how my fren get higher dps (1.5k) with 11k hp, but he same lvl with me.
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Cleave is your best bet for mobs. With the explosion, you can clear it in no time. So far I find bash is not a really good option. Frenzy is way better than bash. Always have Revenge with you and maybe add Ground Stomp.

As far for passive skills. It really depends whether you're not dishing enough damage or having issues surviving.
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post May 21 2012, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Patchy @ May 21 2012, 10:57 AM)
hey thanks for tip! At level 28 don't think i'm underleveled for belial..? I've tried those skills you mentioned except the threatening shout and battle cry..will give it a try. Also trying call of Ancients, but doesn't do much does it..?

I find the nukes are the hardest part..no matter how i run somehow i still get hit. After bout 3 hits its game over..lol. Cooldown for pots is so annoying!!
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No problem biggrin.gif I'm just guessing on the underlevel thing but I think you shouldnt be. I died to belial on my first run but I was lucky cause I was on a 2-man party and my friend managed to revive me. Call of ancients is not really that good IMO. I feel thats its better than Earthquake but not as good as Wrath of Berserker. 3 hits and you're dead? Better get the armor pumping passives and also check your equipments. Put in more vit gems if possible. Nukes are annoying. But most of them are stationary, you have to move around to avoid it. And pots cooldown are very annoying. Make sure you use them wisely and dire situations only.
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post May 21 2012, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(XEN -v- gK @ May 21 2012, 12:31 PM)
just finish NM Ghom last night.
not sure what happen but I somehow kill him using infinity whirlwind.
started with full fury and ww into ghom, the fury will go down over time but will regen back alot from hitting.
only need to time pot to heal from devil fart.

I have about 6xx DPS.

active
frenzy + side arm
whirlwind + blood funnel
ground stomp + wrenching
overpower + killing spree
warcry + hardern

passive
pound of flesh
bloodlust
nerve of steel
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Same as what gaeria84 posted. Except I put pounds of flesh and superstition

Active Skills

Frenzy + Triumph
Rend + Bloodlust
Warcry + Invigorate
Ignore Pain + Ignorance is Bliss
Revenge + Revenge is Mine
Wrath of the Berserker + Insanity

Passive Skills
Inspiring Presence
Superstition
Pounds of Flesh
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post May 21 2012, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(-TrUnKs- @ May 21 2012, 02:02 PM)
well i guess i have to wait for u guys to come into hell sad.gif
maaaan getting rape from elites mob :[
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I replied to the wrong post previously. I'm already in hell. Try out my build above and let me know. I'm still testing and trying to find a Final Build for Nephalem Valor.
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post May 21 2012, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(-TrUnKs- @ May 21 2012, 02:08 PM)
oh which act are u atm?
what level?
stats?

i can tahan normal mobs but not those elites
they got those stupid freeze/laser/fire_floor lol
and they come in pack lol

since all the good items come from these *******
i dowan to skippp
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Just started Act 2. Level 55. Stats, I will post later. Now at office. tongue.gif

Yeah man the elites are a pain the arse. But you have to kite them. Cannot just charge in and hope can tank all the damage. Skills are half the battle. You need alot of resistance items if you want to hold it off.

Can try this build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barb...;UbV!cabccZ
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post May 21 2012, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(-TrUnKs- @ May 21 2012, 02:28 PM)
eh same like my build la haha same level also
but kiting is sooo not barbarian lol
plus the ignore pain is like 5 secs onli..
i prefer war cry
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What to do man? Have to kite abit. Unless you get GODLY items.

I choose Ignore Pain cause it gives me time to actually heal and gain back health. 6 seconds of 65% dmg ignorance and 6 seconds of 20% lifesteal plus your other lifesteal skills helps alot and couple this with frenzy. Its not all about having high hp anymore. You need to be able to maintain it. But feel free to experiment. I'm sure there's more than one way to hold off the fat yellow blue elites.
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post May 21 2012, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(VinluV @ May 21 2012, 02:44 PM)
hows the stun build compare to life steal build?
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So far I can only say that stun builds work only for Normal and Nightmare. Hell onwards I feel that the monsters/bosses are immune to stun or have enough resistance to mitigate the stun.
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post May 21 2012, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ May 21 2012, 03:25 PM)
I am disappoint. The barbarians in D3 are like sissies, running around kiting instead of being the true brawler they were born to be.
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Well sometimes you just need to play smart. If the poision aoe is around or the arcane laser is there. You have to kite abit to avoid dying. Its not like hit abit run hit abit run.


Added on May 21, 2012, 3:32 pm
QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 21 2012, 03:29 PM)
yeah is quite weak.. lvl 13 can't even tank for the tree poison..
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I have always died to the tree poison. In all 3 difficulties. Normal, Nightmare and Hell.

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post May 21 2012, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ May 21 2012, 03:34 PM)
Those are avoidable damage. What about damage you cant avoid? The game was not built to be melee friendly. Imagine if you faced a group of berserkers, desert wasps, swift skull cleavers, colossal golgors or mallet lords. Even with high damage reduction, 1 of them is already tough, as they tend to one shot you, what more a group of them  tongue.gif

Don't blame it on players, blame it on poor design.
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Yeah it seems tough right now. I don't disagree. But the game can be rebalanced. Its not the end of the world. The game has only been out for 1 week. There will be a way to beat it, we just don't know it yet. Until then, deal with it. Nobody said Hell/Inferno is gonna be easy, it isnt easy for the range either. Vortex the range and they're dead?
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post May 21 2012, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(VinluV @ May 21 2012, 03:44 PM)
dude. its play smart.
join a public game and go tank one of those champions or elites, you can literally feel the rape.
Especially the arcane and illusion monsters.
new definition of tanking in nightmare onwards is to take hits so others can run/heal.
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Agreed.


Added on May 21, 2012, 3:57 pm
QUOTE(gaeria84 @ May 21 2012, 03:53 PM)
Sounds very WoW-ish to me. And Blizz denied that they made a WoW clone. Instead of classes that are self-sufficient, we get tank, healer and dps classes. Great job blizz /sarcasm
Well, I play a wizard atm, and I find ranged classes have a much easier time in later difficulties. Vortex/mortar/wall/jailer can be outranged. You cannot avoid melee hits that one shot you  tongue.gif
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If thats the case. They should just make 1 character than can do it all. Would it be better then?


Added on May 21, 2012, 4:07 pm
QUOTE(gaeria84 @ May 21 2012, 03:53 PM)
Sounds very WoW-ish to me. And Blizz denied that they made a WoW clone. Instead of classes that are self-sufficient, we get tank, healer and dps classes. Great job blizz /sarcasm
Well, I play a wizard atm, and I find ranged classes have a much easier time in later difficulties. Vortex/mortar/wall/jailer can be outranged. You cannot avoid melee hits that one shot you  tongue.gif
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Are you in Inferno difficutly? Yes of course its much easier. You don't have to think so much. You just kite and dps. Barbs need to find a balance between str and vit. Cant just have all hp and no dmg or vice versa. It seems harder because most barbs (including myself) cant find the right build. Each character has to be played differently.



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post May 21 2012, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ May 21 2012, 04:13 PM)
That's the point. You can either solo OR you can coop. Classes in D3 has to be all rounded so they can solo content on their own if they choose to. Not being forced to coop because your class cant solo.
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Blizzard already said you can solo the game. Don't let one death in the game stop you. You died and then don't just give up. Change up your skills. Get better items or get different items. Find another tactic. I literally changed my tactic so many times throughout Nightmare and Inferno. I will accept your statement once you have exhausted all the possible ways to adjust your character. Go Google or YouTube barbarians who are actually surviving inferno.

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