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post Jun 12 2012, 12:06 PM

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Been slowly gearing up my barb. I'm more prone to Co-op play. solo is just too lonely unless farming.

42-48k HP (depending on situation)
7.2k armor *WIP
12k+ dmg
800+ AR *situational
70%+ DR *situational

Tanked up to Belial 4 man team. As always stupid combos sucks but most of the time no prob.

Was in a tanker cookie cutter build. Now testing CC build with skill chaining. Aiming to drop down chain downtime to 2-3 second.


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post Jun 12 2012, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(geno @ Jun 12 2012, 12:19 PM)
Most of them run scripts to swap in MF gear just before champs/leets/boss die for super high MF.

You can get banned for that, but most well known barbs streaming live use that script.

I cant remember the url but look up pharmosh, hes the barb with the screenshot i posted. He totally destroys act3/act4.
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Been following him as well. there's one thing wrong about his barb tho. He don't stack NV. Means he chooses his packs and swaps skill as needed.
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post Jun 12 2012, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(geno @ Jun 12 2012, 12:19 PM)
Most of them run scripts to swap in MF gear just before champs/leets/boss die for super high MF.

You can get banned for that, but most well known barbs streaming live use that script.

I cant remember the url but look up pharmosh, hes the barb with the screenshot i posted. He totally destroys act3/act4.
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Been following him as well. there's one thing wrong about his barb tho. He don't stack NV. Means he chooses his packs and swaps skill as needed.
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post Jun 12 2012, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(mugenz @ Jun 12 2012, 02:31 PM)
nice guide.. basically have the calcuations.

But the question of armor affects all damage wasnt in the guide. hmmm So i think its just physical damage.
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Armor:  Armor gives you % damage reduction against all types of damage, not just physical.  It is increased by armor value on items, strength (1:1) and certain skills.


Yes it does. So if armor is not possible, you can choose PHY + AR if you so incline.
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post Jun 12 2012, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(nazseha @ Jun 12 2012, 03:03 PM)
Now clueless what next upgrade for my gear to wipe those elites on act3 with ease..

44k HP , 45% block rate , 21k Damage , 700+ resist , 24% reduce melee attack.

Any pro can suggest anything? thinking of to sacrifice my damage to buff more HP.sigh.
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I've not cleared act 3.. but from what i gather from other barbs. Act 3 you need about 60k hp with roughly 30k+ dmg. And LoH or high life regen. That will cost millions.. sigh. Don't think i can get it anytime soon tho. But i'm liking your block rate rclxms.gif What's your armor?

your stats kinda tankish tho. no way you can "boom boom" act 3 elites with that damage cry.gif

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post Jun 14 2012, 11:11 AM

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I am interested, but realistically the one who has the plan will benefit the most. Not saying anything, just putting it out.
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post Jun 14 2012, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Jun 14 2012, 04:51 PM)
The difference is you can get armor from armor rank and str while you can only get physical resistance from properties. Both will contribute to your damage reduction. Correct me if I am wrong. tongue.gif
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Armor gives damage reduction to ALL type including PHY. It is raise by pure armor or STR 1:1.

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post Jun 19 2012, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(mugenz @ Jun 18 2012, 11:36 AM)
Those stats with war cry on or off?

wow.. really nice.. if comparing mine and yours its like heaven and hell.

i still pretty struggling to get AR to pass 600 mark, armor is at 9k and HP 50k. DPS at 14k only. (stats with war cry on)

Really some advise on how to get good gears besides AH. I cant go Act 2, so just butcher farming.
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I don't see why you can't? those stats what i had when i was going act 2. In fact you have more. what's your passive?

Minus some of your VIt items and boost AR. you can go by with just 40k+ 600 to 700+ is a lot of difference.


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QUOTE(HaN18 @ Jun 19 2012, 10:47 AM)
I still stuck in act 1 can tank butcher and act 1 elite.. Have 75x resist 41k hp, 11k DPS, 8k def but lack of block %. Gold inflation damn crazy helm of command and Stormshield price hike up damn freaking high.. sigh.. Try to tank like a boss in act 2 but a few hit by elite I'm dead
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I don't get it. I'm jealous of you guys, these stats can steam roll act 1. Act 2 if you're careful. I had way lower first week of inferno smile.gif And i had to go thru pre 8th June ninja patch.

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post Jun 19 2012, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(mugenz @ Jun 19 2012, 01:50 PM)
my passive is all the 2 armor and i using superstitious... I dunno what's wrong, basically the elites is the problem. Some of them just give me instance death. Especially tight places like sewage. I cant really kite effectively.

Besides that, do u think dps too low thats why its hard?
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Are you sword/board or 2h?

act 2 12-15k dps should do fine. Your issue now is survival. Are you a burst dps or survival?. Try relentless passive if you want that extra bit staying power with ( EQ+WotB ). I'm not sure how you play. More VIT means more room for relentless.

Currently, the mentality is if you can't survive long enough, do as much dmg as you can every 2 mins to take out each minion. EQ/WotB CD lol or fight longer but stay safe blush.gif

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post Jun 19 2012, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(mugenz @ Jun 19 2012, 03:33 PM)
1hd shield.

Relentless is very good if i m able to tank them and it does give extra help to survive.
But i seems i tried to tank them with WoTB but it wont even last 5seconds i need run away.

what am i doing now is to get as much AR in all EQs even if i have to sacrifice DPS. Frm 24k i reduced to 11k just to accomodate more vit and AR in the gears.

another problem is i cant seem to find LOH stat.. i got 0.
What's a nice moderate LOH? 600? 500?
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Its a much sought after stats because of IAS, a luxury which i too can't afford. You be supprise... i don't have any cry.gif But.. manage to tank up till act 3, NV 5 stacks/siegebreaker/ponnies. Act 4 depends on elites cry.gif So, definately doable. If you really want LoH, 1.5k or so, to make worth it. Still pretty much millions.. rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(Without @ Jun 19 2012, 04:51 PM)
Drills for Barb wink.gif
Just sharing with you all.

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Excellent stats place holder! rclxms.gif

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post Jun 19 2012, 05:23 PM

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Doubt anything to do with built. It's all in the gear. Then again, i'm a Krippian?? as well blush.gif

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post Jun 19 2012, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Shooterz @ Jun 19 2012, 05:27 PM)
What stats are good for barbs on their weapons ?
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Subjective. Depends on what you lack of. I feel that you want min 700+ dps 1H with about 1.3k STR to be at in around min 10k dmg. Not including if you have IAS/skills factoring in. Build your weapon to what stats you want, its cheaper. By just blindly going for DPS/STR/VIT/LoH cost millions. Which means if you can afford it, you will not have asked this question hmm.gif


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QUOTE(VinluV @ Jun 19 2012, 05:28 PM)
his gears

http://youtu.be/LkQN7fFbbEs?t=2m18s

everything +vit totalling 76k hp, and 900 resist unbuffed.. O_O
Also 1193 lph

noteworthy that they avoided champions as much as possible. basically run for your life...
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OooO that will be my benchmark biggrin.gif

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post Jun 19 2012, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(VinluV @ Jun 19 2012, 05:36 PM)
vid was before azmodan in act 3 so probably changed a few items.
but the thing that caught my eye was the 1193 LPH and 78% damage reduction
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That alone tells you the gears are worth millions... rclxms.gif

How can any HC get that kind of quality gear without preparation/farming. Nonetheless, he's one of my heroes heh

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post Jun 20 2012, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(instrict_venus @ Jun 20 2012, 11:43 AM)
my POV on new batch.

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a u can see my resist drops about 20%. left side it before and right is after(ive change my sword and HOC, strgh & block rate added and vit decreased). as the IA decreased to 50% damage reduce also.

so i have to change my item stats to more dps and AR. yes the damage on inferno act2,3&4 reduce but keep in mind that our dps and resist reduce also. % to die on 1-2 shot now reduce is good (against ridiculous elits on act 3 such soul ripper/lasher). on act3 and 4 you need more fire resist than other else(mortar, molten, fire chain, descltr n etc)

repair cost gradually increased. my dh friend on belial run pay 80k for repairing. that mean you must have to less die on inferno or you cant get 100k/hour now.

thus i need change my previous stats from vit>all res>armor>strgth>int to strgth>all res>vit>aromor>int in order to have damge to kill elits and resist to survive.

also as the new nerf on bosses ex. belial; will spawan more poison after 3 minutes( same like butcher fire) make barb almost impossible to farm belial on own. it better to farm more elits(due to elits will have additional item with 5 nv) but keep in mind that AR id reduce about 20% so a superstition a must for me now.

i only found that the damage on mobs reduce is the only good other than that is nothing. i rather like the last patch.
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How is it reduced? You mean you change gear so you lose AR?
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post Jun 20 2012, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Nels @ Jun 20 2012, 12:22 PM)
tumpang tanya. ini 6 stats belt gooding or not? tq veli much

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You can buy 100+ str with around 50 vit and AR 50+ for about 100k. Yours kinda erm. on the low side.

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post Jun 20 2012, 01:59 PM

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Pre 1.0.3, act 2 will be his grave. Act 1 if he is not careful. But now.. maybe can barely go thru act 2. even then with less than 30k health.. very dangerous tongue.gif

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post Jun 20 2012, 02:04 PM

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Everyone can craft perfect square. Just get your gem crafter up. its around 6-8k per pop.
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post Jun 21 2012, 04:28 PM

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yeah. with a gold sink. the majority of players dont have the fund to spend. Hence buying power drop. No point they put high amount if its only circulate amongst themself.

the patch is good afterall.

And I agree that those who felt there're no challenge anymore, to take a rest. Play other games. Go hardcore. No point blaming "noobs" that they claim ruined their experience. I'm supprised that "noobs" have the power to move Blizz in changing their games, instead of pro players smile.gif I bet pro players wants it to be 10 times harder than pre patch. rclxms.gif

also agree that those who are really pissed, main reason would be more ppl will have access to high loot areas than before. Hence their RMAH value drops. Competition is good smile.gif

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post Jun 25 2012, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(mugenz @ Jun 25 2012, 10:45 AM)
whole weekend i trying belial.

I think i still need more resistance and hp to withstand the full blast by belial.

I m currently 700++ AR, 40k hp and 12k dps. I think for me to complete belial, i think need 800+++ 50k hp. DPS is still fine, but hope to increase more if possible.

anyone in act 3 now? what's ur stat like.. to be able to farm heart of sin.
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You will not be able to kill belial at 12k.. min 15k. 3 mins enrage and its GG with green stuff. Else co op with some DPSer. Make sure to protect them at phase 1-2 biggrin.gif and be ress bot at phase 3

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post Jun 25 2012, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(mugenz @ Jun 25 2012, 11:19 AM)
i got no problem to get help to kill but i wanna kill by myself.

i tried 12k dps and its fine. Just take abit longer. But if i can successfully avoid those full blast, i should be ok. I m closest to kill it with 3/4 hp left.
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That's the problem, remember there's enrage timer. Are you able to kill it within that 3 min? 3/4 hp is alot of hp! tongue.gif

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