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The Amateur Working Bee
post May 21 2012, 10:30 PM

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my 1st impression when reaching act2 1st time, running out to the desert solo, happy till a group of wasp appeared...gg


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post May 22 2012, 07:31 AM

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QUOTE(Decky @ May 22 2012, 01:09 AM)
I cleared normal difficulty with a pure dex DH struggling with the last boss as he could nearly OHKO me with his cage skill. Was frustrated of getting 1 shotted in nightmare mode so I decided to start a barb. Didn't know that you were supposed to kite too lol
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ur prolly better off playing DH tbh, from what i can see, barb is like, "temporary" tanks or cannon fodder, u cant do direct tanking styles at all, not sure if in the game itself u can get any armor end game that would allow barb to do that or not since most of its skills are like super tank skills. with how bad the latency is when i play, its sad to play barb, but its more like, stun mobs, cast dmg skills and keep party buffs up, hold the boss in place for a moment, kite again till stunner cooldown and rinse repeat.

u wont feel the bite till u reach nightmare mode above
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post May 23 2012, 05:51 PM

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wait, so in the end, barb verdict is, concentrate on arcane, block, resist etc etc instead of stats based gears?

it kinda sux thou, since gems have limited uses now, i remember gems used to give nice elemental resists depending on where u slot em
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post May 25 2012, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ May 25 2012, 05:00 AM)
They gonna nerf it in the name of pvp balance!  ohmy.gif
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they dont even have PvP ready yet ROFL, plus DH can easily tapao Barb np, imagine Amazon VS Barb
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post May 29 2012, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(VinluV @ May 29 2012, 09:02 PM)
Guys have you realised?

Barbarian and Enchantress have the most awkward conversations.
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i tested a female sorc and hired a templar, templar always seems like hitting on me, loled

nvr tried barb and enchantress, ur barb male?
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post Jun 3 2012, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(VinluV @ Jun 3 2012, 12:36 PM)
Guys,

Anyone got a sample build for inferno?
Can't even kill 1 elite mob in the cathedral.
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well im a tank barb, all resist around min 500 max 700 after shout around 30k hp pool iirc, gear ur enchantress, tank the elites, revenge & rend kite while she does the dmg

but if the elite has molten, just skip it lol, i tried before, u cant tank molten elites unless ur got some shit ass godly resist gears 900+ all resist after shout
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post Jun 4 2012, 02:16 AM

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Key statistics unbuffed:
51% block
26.26% melee reduced damage
~600 all resist
~17,600 dps
53,000 health

617 heal on hit


3 most important factors

600 all resists is EXPECTED btw

personally i cant achieve it, just got into inferno, no feed no gold no time

but playin barb its expected to spend extra time and gold to make it viable to play in inferno, assuming u dont have high latency and lag

u cant handle either, time to reroll class lol

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post Jun 4 2012, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jun 4 2012, 10:25 AM)
or y dont we try to get as much block% or %melee reduce damage? i think both of this will apply to all mob?
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actually, considering how insane certain mobs are with the fix, im actually more comfortable with the idea of having more block rates, dodge rates & all resists, iirc block and dodge does affect elite skills and shit no?
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post Jun 5 2012, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jun 4 2012, 07:23 PM)
it is hard to get a high dodge rate for barb.
higher block rate can get in shield only rite?
all resist is a must for barb. mine is 900 after shout
my block chances now is 20%, block rate 2000++ - 4000++

so i suspect, im lack of :
block chance %
reduce melee damage %
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i read his gears discript, he actually had non shield gears that has block rates %, prolly hard to come by i think

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The Helm of Command (60str, 86 vit, 8% block. +12% life)
Vile Ward (59 str, 156 vit, 25 all resist, 158 armor)
Blackthorne's Medal (37 str, 70 health, 15% attack speed, 445 heal on hit, +11% life)
Immortal King's Soul Cage (147 vit, 58 all resist, 299 armor)
Immortal King's Forge (41 str, 68 all resist, reduce melee dmg 4%)
Strongarm Bracers (161 str, 56 all resist, +3% life, 82 armor, 2% crit)
String of Ears (145 str, 19 all resist, heal on hit 80, 113 armor, 20% melee dmg reduce)
Band of Fallen Heroes (71 str, 83 vit, 60 all resist, 2% less elite dmg)
Justice Lantern (4-8 dmg, 42 str, 105 vit, 11% block)
Blackthorne's Breeches (81str, 78 vit, 60 all resist, +3% life)
A 1011 dps rare sword (155str, 108 vit, 24% attack speed)
Stormshield (32% block, 89 str, 66 all resist, +13% life, 4% melee reduce, 5% elite reduce)[cool.gif
Blackthorne's Boots (79 str, 12% movement speed, 2% elite dmg reduce)



but yeah, other reduction does play a considerable role in dmg reductions, especially when the numbers are large and you are resisting by percentage.


Added on June 5, 2012, 6:23 pm
QUOTE(jackiewong @ Jun 5 2012, 03:53 PM)
my role now definitely a fully tanker.. just that my friends' wiz n dh not too high dps..  tongue.gif .. my dps no hope d.. the only way is get a 1k dps weapon n all the armor with vit, str n resist... which is way too expensive.. hehe..
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having a decent DPS is still important for tankers imo, iirc some skills that are used for tanking to regain health are by dmg percentage, for instance ur passive 3% of dmg to health

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post Jun 6 2012, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(VinluV @ Jun 6 2012, 01:48 PM)
this fellow a2m#1774 offering crafting service for helm of command.
Pay 200k, and he will craft the helmet.
instead the ***** just run off.
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damn dude, sry to hear that, but like i said, thats a legendary helm, the smithing plan dont drop that ez, my suggestion, find a trustable source to help u man, but then again not many ppl are rly excited bout smithing, there was 1 forumer here that does have several exalted plans learnt and he smiths too, i have to look up his name
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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ Jun 6 2012, 01:59 PM)
new patch soon fixing somehing related to barb (nerf?)
bnet
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sounds like they are removing crit from those particular skill+rune only i THINK

since those proc crashes, i dont use any of those runes tbh lmao EXCEPT rupture

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post Jun 6 2012, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(VinluV @ Jun 6 2012, 02:06 PM)
actually smithing would be a good "gold earning prospect" as legendary drops are random and rare.
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assuming if im charging for the service and taking your mats, then yes, its gold earning prospect lmao
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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Jun 6 2012, 04:21 PM)
how would be stats generated by blacksmith? great? or super random low stats
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random lol, its rly up to luck

i wont be charging as long as u provide the mats and gold, but honestly, id suggest holding your mats and gold 1st, as zeratos puts it, only the 6 attributes exalted or legendary plans are worth making, unless ur desperate or something to test ur luck with your mats and gold
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post Jun 6 2012, 05:05 PM

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as requested lol

my barb, its not rly good, but now so far only reached inferno act1 the old wind mill area where u meet the scoundrel, gonna progress further when i have the time, i lag alot at maps with alot of effects so not rly looking fwd going into ancients map lmao

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post Jun 6 2012, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jun 6 2012, 05:27 PM)
wat is the level?
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level?
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post Jun 6 2012, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(VinluV @ Jun 6 2012, 06:14 PM)
OOoooo any price for the extra plans?
dude can u survive with 23k life?


Added on June 6, 2012, 6:15 pm

cannot see his level?
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yeah can, but you will die, ALOT to molten and firechain etc etc if you dont kite properly

my build is abit weird, i dont buy stuff from AH lol, so far the only stuff i bought with gold is 3 items from a LYNer that i ended up didnt use lmao

but i have to tell you, at the end of the day it goes like this: block rate>all resist>hp>vit/str>armor

and get an enchantress(rly up to u, u can get templar or scoundrel if it suits u) to do the side dps while u tank/kite em
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post Jun 6 2012, 10:49 PM

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FUUUUU teach me masta!
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post Jun 7 2012, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(VinluV @ Jun 6 2012, 10:39 PM)
whats the damage from your weapon? incredibly low dps man.

molten manageable if u know the land area and have a corner tongue.gif
Firechain can be killed fast as long as got corner as well. tongue.gif

Desecrators vortex hurt me like hell tho.
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i derno lol, i can only see dmg when i crit, but its rly low, it took me 5mins+ to kill Leoric, so yeahhhhh lol

as long as it gets the job done and i can survive and clean the map, its ok for me


Added on June 7, 2012, 12:10 am
QUOTE(Luftwacko @ Jun 6 2012, 11:43 PM)
I can't even get my resist over 100 w/o sacrificing other stats.

No idea how can u guys get a few hundred resist.
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i think the main thing is, does your stats allows u to play better compared to having more resists?

there is no definite build here, but there is a balance of having sufficient block, resist and stats to play better in inferno, tahts my opinion, as long as it gets the job done and allow me to play better, why not?

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post Jun 7 2012, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(PlayPlayHa @ Jun 7 2012, 01:50 AM)
Playing barbarian lvl54... still in hell mode act 1

wat kind of skill set u guys choose?

Cleave or Frenzy better??(in hell mode) o.O
currently using frenzy, revenge, war cry, battle rage, threatening shout and wrath of berserker
passive using brawler, weapon master and berserker rage

tapi die like shet....play like tofuu.. zz.. ><

1 more question:
threatening shout -> the grim harvest skill rune <-- wat use?
shout then monster drop gold/item??
or it raise the magic/gold find for those monster?
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2hander?

threatening shout grim harvest runes works like this:
when u shout at monster, they just drop gold or equips by CHANCE, thats about it, it doesnt raise ur MF or GF.
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post Jun 7 2012, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(VinluV @ Jun 7 2012, 02:35 AM)
no ignore pain or stomp. Interesting.
You can use cleave for mass enemies and frenzy when elite or boss.
i prefer frenzy with smite, since you're using wrath of berserker you need to deal as much dmg as u can in those 15 secs.
choose a disabler skill, at least 1. weapon throw +hammer rune, ground stomp+pull enemy in rune since u got revenge, or seismic slam.


Added on June 7, 2012, 2:39 am

can turn the option on in the settings. or press b i think or is it v
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i dun dare on that lol, sked my old pc hang, usually i mob like a group to cleave stomp rend, so numbers are gonna fly out mad

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