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The Amateur Working Bee
post Jun 12 2012, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(VinluV @ Jun 12 2012, 11:17 AM)
Slowly lah.. Be patient and there will be good weapons for your budget if spend about 15-30 minutes in AH.
Yest I saw 1123 dps 2hand axe with +100 vit +100 str +23% IAS and 2.3% damage convert to health going for 800k. Immediately grab and resell for 1mil.


Added on June 12, 2012, 11:20 am
Be Warned, kiting skill must be at top level all the time.
He has a vid showing about 15 minutes of gameplay. Will try to grab it.
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tax 15% your profit margin 5% only lol...you run the risk of not selling the items also...swt

but its a preddy good 2 hander


Added on June 12, 2012, 11:22 am
QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 12 2012, 11:15 AM)
Yes, they do give you good block%.

For me. 2 reasons I won't get these.
Firstly, they cost millions and give you below par attributes in return.
Secondly, with those armor on, you sacrifice other attributes (strength for armor and dps, dexterity for dodge, vitality for HP, intelligence for resistance for all elements, armor etc which are equally important).


Added on June 12, 2012, 11:17 am
Yeap, with imp run, of course.  laugh.gif
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update us on the results

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post Jun 12 2012, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(geno @ Jun 12 2012, 11:52 AM)
If you guys insist on trying 2handers.

Have a look at this. http://i.imgur.com/LxMys.jpg
This guy cleared inferno with 2hander
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holy shit

-74k hp
-10k armor
-1k-900 all resist
-no lifesteal or life on hit
-sweet dmg

this dude friggin GOD lol
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post Jun 12 2012, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jun 12 2012, 12:04 PM)
STR 1800 ish
VIT 1700 ish
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crits chance and crits dmg oso high  sweat.gif
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part of his gear prolly cost MORE than the stormshield block set lol, no thx, i casual gamer lol
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post Jun 12 2012, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jun 12 2012, 12:11 PM)
ya la. i think most of his eq's is much more expensive than the legendary item that we talk about?
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considering his stats and dps, prolly, last i check helm of command only cost like 8m mark, comparitively tanker DOES spend lesser due to the fact they dont focus on higher DPS, but more on survivalbility

so hes like spending extra on the dps side too, maybe he has luck getting good drops, hard to say yo
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yep, heard of pharmosh, quite a famous 2 hand barb, so thats his barb...lol...
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post Jun 12 2012, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jun 12 2012, 12:22 PM)
loot, craft or buy...i dunno lol. i just jelly him.  shakehead.gif

but let say if he loot, how can he survive in inferno while still not having that poderful item? he meanwhile use tanking gear before dfound that powderful eq?

or exploit the resplendant chest earlier before blizz nerf? lol
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that i rly have no idea lol

what resplendant chest exploit? O.o

btw this phramosh dude has rly good knowledge on the game mechanics lol

so yeah hes quite skilled
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post Jun 12 2012, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(ashx @ Jun 12 2012, 12:25 PM)
Been following him as well. there's one thing wrong about his barb tho. He don't stack NV. Means he chooses his packs and swaps skill as needed.
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actually there is nothing wrg with that, there is no fixed skill set that will get you thru the ENTIRE act due to the fact champ elite packs has random fixes, its actually a neccesity to swap skill sets, Neph Valor is just a bonus
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 12 2012, 12:56 PM)
So, it's 10.5K armor  / 1K all resistance / 74K life?
These can be achievable.

But 100K DPS?  shocking.gif


Added on June 12, 2012, 12:58 pmBased on the various posts, basically we need 600+ all resistance for inferno A2 / 800+ all resistance for inferno A3 / 1000+ all resistance for inferno A4.
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you can have 1k all resist, lack hp or armor to balance u, you're still gonna die and wonder why you still die lol
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post Jun 12 2012, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(mugenz @ Jun 12 2012, 01:11 PM)
yes alot of guides/videos did stress that resistance is not really the whole game. An acceptable amount of resist prolly like 600 will be just nice. Other important stats like life steal / block would be needed for survival as well.
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ok here comes the funny part of the game mechanics

technically the system is almost identical to RO

so im just gonna list em down below

1)armor = def (note many ppl still havent rly figure out the ratio, i havent spend time digging out info on this yet)

2)resist = resist (literally)

3)block rate = skills like autoguard


ok now, if you are familiar with RO, you know VERY well that 10def=10% physical reduct, 100def = immunity to PHYSICAL dmg and resistance = dmg reduction based on PERCENTAGE of incoming dmg

and you HAVE to balance this, or you are just wasting resources getting super gears when u can spend lesser

its like you have 10k armor and you go 400 all resist, you will still do fine

the PROBLEM now is, figuring out the ratio on D3, coz their friggin system is retarded. i havent got time atm to go figure that one out yet so i cant give you the values.

correct me if i am wrong guys

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post Jun 12 2012, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(mugenz @ Jun 12 2012, 01:24 PM)
i actually still wasnt sure whether armor reduction dmg = elemental dmg/magic/ranged dmg?

didnt really did enough research yet.

just a lil rational thinking, if armor covers all dmg then there is no use to resistance.
I might be wrong.
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yes exactly, same with RO

all resist however DOES include physical resistance in D3

so it works the same as Demi resist in RO, same elemental resist concept

while armor ONLY reduces PHYSICAL part of defence

that aside, you will ask, then why not all resist till AND armor maxed so you can tank em all?

i no rich so i cant answer that question biggrin.gif

but i can tell you this, with the correct balance of armor and resist, its the same shit, just that you cant do DIRECT tanking, taking ALL the desecrators and plague shits. ASSUMING those are sort of the *magical dmg* thingy which only all resist can reduce


Added on June 12, 2012, 1:35 pmoh yeah and do note, you can block arcanes and shit with your block rate lol

so 50% block rate is friggin good

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post Jun 12 2012, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(geno @ Jun 12 2012, 01:54 PM)
The defence mechanic in d3 depends on the lvl of the mob. Then mutiplied by the defense (armor/resist/dodge/block/melee reduction).

Read more here:
http://blackrabbit2999.blogspot.com/2012/0...lete-guide.html
http://blackrabbit2999.blogspot.com/2012/0...resistance.html
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cant surf atm, thx bro

just a question bro, does the multipliers stack?
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post Jun 12 2012, 02:26 PM

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idk, if i upgrade my gears, ill post em up for sale here cheap, need funding to buy smith plans swt

what lvl?
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QUOTE(nazseha @ Jun 12 2012, 03:03 PM)
Now clueless what next upgrade for my gear to wipe those elites on act3 with ease..

44k HP , 45% block rate , 21k Damage , 700+ resist , 24% reduce melee attack.

Any pro can suggest anything? thinking of to sacrifice my damage to buff more HP.sigh.
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buff your enchantress lol
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post Jun 12 2012, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(nazseha @ Jun 12 2012, 03:15 PM)
lol..my enchantress equipped with MF item only...btw,is it IAS item on enchantress will effect my char as well?
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not sure, i doubt so, coz that would be rly OPed lol, i DID however let my enchantress wear IAS ring, she atk fast lul
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post Jun 12 2012, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(nazseha @ Jun 12 2012, 04:31 PM)
Ghom poison dem pain..hard to finish him off with 15-20mins valor buff left...lol.
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whats ur enchantress dmg?
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post Jun 13 2012, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 13 2012, 09:46 AM)
I can see he's gearing up with strength, vitality and attack speed%.

I heard Blizzard is going to remove the attack speed %.

I saw he has got an angel wings. Do you know which armor is that?
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angel wings is part of the CE rewards
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post Jun 13 2012, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(geno @ Jun 13 2012, 09:55 AM)
holy shit yours?
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post Jun 13 2012, 01:24 PM

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dey guys, anyone of you interested in pooling up gold to buy smith plan for helm of command?
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post Jun 13 2012, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(mugenz @ Jun 13 2012, 01:31 PM)
erhh how much izzit ?
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havent check today, but last i check, the available ones are 25m...swt

if got ppl wanna work with me to get it, i dont mind spending the rest of my gameplay farming gold for it, after i learn it we can all just focus on mats and make em
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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Jun 13 2012, 02:36 PM)
Good point! Im willing to support but that will have to depend on how much each and everyone of us have to contribute lah. tongue.gif

Why not bring this up in your smithing thread?
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i have no idea yet how much each of us gonna pool since it rly depends on the number of ppl wiling to participate, the more ppl we no need to pool so much lor, if we gain enough profit from the smithing, we should be able to cover back our investment on the plan, or even better each of us can own a helm that we prefer.

the reason i bring this up here coz helm of command is more of a barb thing, dont think other classes would care bout pooling with us lol unless they are more to investment for profit thing, im just interested in making stuff and earn to get more plans only.

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