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post Aug 23 2012, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 23 2012, 03:39 AM)
Sure? I thought those WW-Tornado Barbs are still using the overpower?
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I try dy no work when ww tornado use overpower.... so I gonna change passive skill, superstition, tough n nail, ruthless really can stand now I using it... cos i also thks for sliver teach me to try it ..very work

U can try it...

In act3n 4 honestly barb go for ww tornado LoH minimum 1800 around, last time I have 1500LoH in act3,4 still have problem (weak)
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post Aug 23 2012, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Aug 23 2012, 07:03 PM)
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Wah.... congratz to u.... already come true.....
But I wan get this hope I can get this soon...
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post Aug 24 2012, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Aug 24 2012, 06:12 PM)
how many loh do i need? currently im using dw with 700 and 600 each. the profile shown is my gear and skill build to farm a2.

i use nerve steel also to replace berserker rage
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Hi bro im ply for ww also, for my opinion honestly if u need LoH minimum for ww tonordo 1800 LoH above no joke... armor minimum 6500,dmg reduction 70%around, AR 850-1000 c.chance buffed 40%-50% .c.dmg just try ur best build.... if u have this minimum state of ur gear sure u say inferno very easy...
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post Aug 24 2012, 06:57 PM

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Hit able said right I'm spend tornado ww gear really not cheap cos everything also need high level from ur gear ,if wan going barb normal style no problem... cost low...

Chchan if u wan build LoH first u get 400around in amulet ,further up ur weapon both 1hand have 700 around ,so u can get 1800LoH..
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post Aug 24 2012, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Aug 24 2012, 08:20 PM)
upgraded, tried in a3, can kill le ^^, but farming wise i tink ill stick to a2, a3 takes too long to down an elite especially when its a champion. Is it worth spending the time to down a champion in a3 or stick a2 since a3 rare drops has higher ilvl? any advice?
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Lets talk about stats, a1,2 alot drop below 60level item
If go for a3,4 mostly drop 60level above, i cant say a1,2 wont drop level 60 see ur luck lol....

Champion is my falling in love women also can say (shoi son yeah ) depends player some say kill hard some say can close one eye kill, for me I call molest or rape them... lol...
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post Aug 25 2012, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 25 2012, 02:20 AM)
I can't imagine those spent 200M D3 gold on gears (assuming they are not botters).
Just not me.

It's pure luck.
I'll use the gold to get a ring for my monk. To make her more imba against 3-4 arcanes.
And spend some gold on my WD and WZ.
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suddenly get rich....any good stuff u can buy now......marry christmas ,angpao gao gao.... rclxms.gif
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post Aug 25 2012, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Derrecklim @ Aug 25 2012, 03:16 PM)
anyone know if dodge is good for a barb ? coz currently my barb have 18.3% withouht Warcry dodge buff so was wondering
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Hi bro wht style of ur skill to ply? own style or ww tornado

Yes Dodge chance important ur dmg reduction 70%around was good

Ur AR too low try slowly to boost 900around buffed

Hp low too try to minimum 40k as best if u can ...


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QUOTE(blackorange @ Aug 25 2012, 10:40 AM)
hi, any comment on my build?

still cannot go through A2.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/haarith...0/hero/10396856
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Ur gear quick good but I need to know how about ur AR buffed?

from I opinion,i saw ur skill mouse 2 change v leap stun n ur ww change v overpower crushing avance ,cos I saw ur skill have abit problem for defense.. try to use some defense skill....

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post Aug 26 2012, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Penangnitesz @ Aug 26 2012, 12:02 PM)
Hi all sifu,

I am trying to build a double WW barb.. now i would like to invest in some weapons.. since now they have buffed the 2 handedweaps. Would it be good if i buy a skorn (1.2k+damage, crit chance 150%+ , with socket + 300+ str)?

or should duel wield instead(maybe with 1k damage main hander with socket(put radiant emerald) and a 700 damage offhand with 90%crit damage and socket+ loh)?
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Hi bro im also one of ww tornado build but I'm not sifu here,for my opinion u find 2hand weapon c.dmg must have 150% around n LoH 1.5k around, cos ww need LoH High.... if have one or two socket is bonus



If u going for dual wielding both 1hand weapon must have 800LoH=1600LoH n c.dmg ..


If u find 1hand or 2hand the pack have str, dmg %,ASI %,no LoH, but have socket, tat is not a best choice for ww tornado build..
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post Aug 26 2012, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Penangnitesz @ Aug 26 2012, 01:23 PM)
hi bro, thanks alot for your reply, for WW tornado build. LOH better than life steal?

if lets say i get a skorn with 5.6% life steal and around 160% crit and a socket is it good enough?
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welcome I try to help u as best as i can.... enjoy ur ww tornado build...


For ww build life steal %doesn't matter, like mine no life steal at all just focus LoH only....
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post Aug 27 2012, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(Aura @ Aug 27 2012, 01:20 PM)
If WW barb, then u need to change to dual wield for better effectiveness.... There's certain mechanics that utilizes atk spd and yes, LoH is important for WW....

The reason is simple, I pointed out that there's certain mechanics that utilizes atk spd.... There's where the LoH comes into play.... Each tornado that u generate and each hit that hits the mobs, will in return gives u life... So, u need atk spd to make this build as effective as possible since the faster ur hits atk, the faster u get back ur life....
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post Aug 27 2012, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(vegebotak @ Aug 27 2012, 02:18 PM)
Example Hi LOH n ATACK SPEED

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/zhong-6483/hero/5890335

I also follow his build, I think not cheap..
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Honestly really not cheap bro mine barb ww tornado now spend more then 200m dy. Tats y I just focus one character only, now I dont enough gold to spend my my character.... poor dy....
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post Aug 27 2012, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 27 2012, 02:50 PM)
People keep coming back since patch 104.
I think the price at AH reaches its all time high.

I just sold my boots for 5m yesterday.
I posted it at AH for 2m few weeks ago and it turned out no one wanted it.

Be patient... hold our horses.
We will get cheap items for our Barbs soon... real soon.  laugh.gif
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yesterday I sold one legendary bracer 15m only, when i show u tat day, not in half n hour sold dy so hotcakes.. ^^

Now I notice have alot player focus of legendary item now, but my situation focus loot legendary for sell biggrin.gif


Now a day plyer find his gear like trend ofcos tat price too high like branded ,i going my way to find less plyer wan it.... ofcos more cheaper until break... LoL..


Finally I really sacrifice my now barb rebuild from few day ago... now I stop spend gold from my barb..

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post Aug 27 2012, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Aug 27 2012, 03:15 PM)
i think with the Para Paragon now, most will concentrate 1 char to build up their Para Paragon level  hmm.gif

i got a fren with 6 lvl 60 characters : 2 monk and 1 of each class, headache to choose which class he want to Up Paragon...hehe

for me a simple choice since 1 only got 1 char lvl 60..
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Sory I say paragon level not important for me, my situation I need to know my luck every day I was ply wht item I loot... tat is my point.

if I already p50 level just a two legendary I get was nice item dont wan to say crap stuff.. so wht.. u so fall spend alot of time get high paragon level wht u get..?


blizzard ccompany wont reward u the first get 100paragon level..

Tats y like u said I just using one my barb character go for paragon level only, I wont greedy easy to focus bro....
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QUOTE(Renekton @ Aug 27 2012, 04:10 PM)
i think you get about 300STR and 200VIT as well  rclxub.gif
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Lol....I hope so...
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post Aug 31 2012, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(biatche @ Aug 31 2012, 03:49 PM)
ww barbs. does aspd matter?

to get a high dps sword or low dps dagger for offhand?
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Hi bro if u going ww tornado find the mace or axe batter y, cos gift u more c.chance to ww more c.dmg out so ur fury regeneration fast....


Atk spd doesn't matter for ww build main hand or off hand... ww just need high LoH minimum 1800above as best as u can....
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post Sep 1 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Sep 1 2012, 12:19 PM)
Since ww uses damage from both hands, u should get an off hand weapon with at least 500-600 dps, so u still can do reasonable damage from your off hand while ww. Unless u don't have gold to buy(which's not the the case for u lol), there's no reason to get low dps off hand if u r capable to get higher dps one.
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post Sep 1 2012, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(biatche @ Sep 1 2012, 06:24 PM)
my mainhand currently is 1k dps 250 str 100 vta socket
offhand as above

looking for a dagger/sword

crit+socket+200str+600loh

700-800dps dagger

or 900-1k sword

thing is, i can find sword way easier than dagger...... dagger really difficult.... and sword does more dmg, so it makes me wonder if the aspd is that important. its a 0.1 difference.
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Hi bro well, ur gear for offhand sword or dagger doesn't matter now as long as u like ,u going for DPS the passive skill use weapon master add 10%dmg, if just ur gear have enough c.chance 27%around?

Cos if u have 27%c.chance in ur gear + ruthless 10%+ base 5% + battle rage (into the fray )3% buffed = 50%c. Chance. already perfect


So Atk spd doesn't matter for ww tornado...

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QUOTE(biatche @ Sep 1 2012, 07:49 PM)
got over 40cc
already using weapon master
im looking to go 80-100k dps thats all.

at 60k now,...

ok, dont misunderstand, my ww barb can spin all the way through already. but farming too slow, i wanna hit 100k and storm the map fast

the dagger dps so low, so if i look for a replacement, i want it perfect
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Very easy dude high str 2500 above, high c.chance 60%above ,high c.dmg 500%around. if u have this level ofcos ur DPS 100k above.. u can kill like god dy... u must understand wht i means....
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QUOTE(vegebotak @ Sep 1 2012, 08:04 PM)
Sound like impossible , haha....

My current build now upgrade from 50ksps to 71k , after buff 85k, need to maintain LOH N VITAL.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/zhong-6483/hero/5890335
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U really understand... kipparian can make of this state bro.. for my opinion go for ww tornado around 50k unbuffed already awesome man...


Yah.. LoH n vit must maintain it ..dont even DPS high u wont die... if ur LoH low.... lol




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[quote=Balaclava,Sep 1 2012, 08:28 PM]present me don't keep emphasize on the dps counter without realising the mechanics behind Whirlwind and Run like the wind. The main purpose of capitalising on the OH attack speed is to generate more hits within the mini cyclones to proc more critical hits in return. You can have a shitload of dps but what's the use when you burn more rage than you actually can generate? He's looking to improve by storming the map fast. That should all comes down to how much rage you can gain from the white mobs while merely relying on the sprint-created-cyclone. Arguably, you NEED a fast OH to squeeze as much hits as possible from 1 mini-cyclone without even utilizing Whirlwind. That way, you can chain your enemies and just run pass them till you actually see a Champion/Elite pack. 

So biatche, you should refer to this table:

APS__TPS
0.90    3.00
1.01    3.33
1.12    3.67
1.18    4.00
1.33    4.33
1.44    4.67
1.54    5.00
1.67    5.67
1.82    6.00
2.00    6.67
2.23    7.67

Hence you can see, there are no diminishing returns.  As APS goes up, ticks per second increase in linear proportion. By themselves, cyclone hits aren’t a huge generator of damage (Whirlwind inflicts more of the direct damage), but cyclone ticks are most of the ballgame in terms of generating the Fury that powers WW, plus the crits for LoH to keep you alive, plus the crits that have other big effects like extending WOTB duration.  So stacking IAS/ASI pays big dividends until you reach whatever point you find gives you enough hits/crits from your cyclones, after which any further weapon speed stacking is gravy.

So you'll see that increasing the attack speed to the base speed of a weapon causes a linear increase to cyclone tick rates. So you can plan properly whether the 0.1 attack would allow you to gain ONE extra tick from the mini tornado. If none, then you are safe to plan that upgrade to a sword instead of a dagger. smile.gif


Added on September 1, 2012, 7:29 pmbtw present me, " Very easy dude high str 2500 above, high c.chance 60%above ,high c.dmg 500%around. if u have this level ofcos ur DPS 100k above.. u can kill like god dy... u must understand wht i means....  " is not easy. so don't go simply assuming everybody can just achieve that figure without spending a billion gold on it.
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sory bro wht I said I was build no Atk spd at all go for ww build


Wht kind of possible monster for me facing go ww no no problem, just using my sprint as fast as can... depends player how position he kill ...


Added on September 1, 2012, 8:08 pmBalaclava. Im a ww tornado build thks for understand wht was i said c.chance to show it is a basically state of barb only... I understand all u explained ...thks bro.... Im going for ww tornado especially I call rape elite, champ... lol


Added on September 1, 2012, 8:27 pm is not easy. so don't go simply assuming everybody can just achieve that figure without spending a billion gold on it.
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Of cos I realize not easy is possible too.. biatcha said he wan( perfect )


pls notice this (perfect),perfect going to whole gear the higher state, bro do u think easy get perfect gear
.sacrifice.lol .. ofcos u need spend alot gold u had...

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