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sovietmah
post Jul 17 2012, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Abbys @ Jul 16 2012, 06:20 PM)
Need pro bb advice so that i can kill/farm act2 easy. Try act3 event 1st elite oso cant kill. Eg: skill build, LOH, Life steal, regen....

My current build after buff:
AR: average 700
Dmg: 35k
armor: near 8k
critical dmg: 240%
critical chance: ~51% after skill
Life per sec: near 800
Life steal: 0
Life on hit: 141
block: 20%

Skill:
battle ... with 30% buff
Revenger with 10% critical rate
WC with resist
WOTB with 100% dmg
Fury with 4% dmg
ignore pain 7sec

passive:
weapon master
bone join
sus.... forget actual name
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I use around 900 AR.
DMG bout 17K
Armor bout 9K
Dual Wield, attack speed 1.69
Can survive in act 3, but slightly difficult dealing elite (chain), the rest not major issue.
Third map act 3 so far.
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post Jul 20 2012, 09:33 AM

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I have 900 AR, 17K dmg, 49K life, 8K armor.
cannot survive in act 3 even i have 600 LPS.
i suspect because i am 0 LOH. so i need to buy something with LOH or weapon with socket tonight.
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post Jul 20 2012, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 20 2012, 09:37 AM)
900AR and 8K armor are the stats before war cry or after war cry?

LOH + overpower (crushing advance) combo is very useful to kill certain type of elites.
You'll need LOH.

Are you playing solo or co-op?
Go co-op if you can't solo.
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After war cry then physical bout 1.1K, the rest bout 900.
play party.
I think play solo easier.
when play solo the crap mob is 70K life, when play party the crap mob is 200K life!
Yes, i think i need LOH. gonna unload my 70% critical gems and put up 400 LOH. and might buy another weapon with socket play dual-wield with 400 x 2 LOH.


Added on July 20, 2012, 10:10 am
QUOTE(stevie @ Jul 20 2012, 09:57 AM)
900 AR and 8k armour is sufficient i guess.
i'm running 45k hp ~750 AR 8k armour with 550LOH (from amulet & ring)

the trick (for me at least) is to kill at least 2 minions/elites in super saiya mode.
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Yeah, i think ur 550 LOH really save your life!
Just imagine without LOH. smile.gif

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post Jul 20 2012, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 20 2012, 10:19 AM)
If you go solo, 4 elites gang-rape you at a time.
If you go party, 4 human players gang-rape an elite at a time.
If you are unlucky and met 2 packs of elites, 8 elites will gang-rape you at a time if you go solo.
If you are unlucky and met 2 packs of elites in co-op game, 4 human players still gang-rape an elite at a time.
So, it's really up to you how you want to play it.

I completed A1 and A2 in both solo and co-op.
I couldn't complete A3 and A4 in solo.

LOH comes in handy in A3/A4.
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I actually party with my fren DH 60K dps.
his defends a bit weaks, so he stay behind, but dmg is very high.
I as barbarian i stay in front of elite pack.
So yesterday faced an elite pack that have arcane sentry, poison lock at ur floor, shield, wall, and walking fire.
I can't stand in front there for long, my HP drop tremendously. my attack speed 1.50 dagger.
I guess LOH will solve my problem tonight!

Looks like i need to sacrifice my dmg and tank in front and let my fren to kill them.

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post Jul 20 2012, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 20 2012, 10:30 AM)
you can stand in plague or molten at 600 LOH

At 700 you can LOH off desecrate if you have overpower

arcane still need to gtfo
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Ya, i agreed that i have to walk away againsts arcane sentry. but if with LOH i might can stand in front even with poison on the floor right?
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post Jul 20 2012, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 20 2012, 10:37 AM)
LOH alone is not enough. You'll need overpower to reflect damage while you're recovering from LOH.
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But i am using revenge now.
(1) stun
(2) revenge - get life
(3) war cry impunity
(4) barserker 60% dodge

(a) Frenzy (get life)
(b) whirldwind (use to chao lou one)


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post Jul 20 2012, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 20 2012, 10:37 AM)
LOH alone is not enough. You'll need overpower to reflect damage while you're recovering from LOH.
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Do you means this?
http://www.diablowiki.net/Revel
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 20 2012, 11:07 AM)
No, it is Overpower (Crushing Advance)
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will try it tonigh! thx
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post Jul 20 2012, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(mothangel @ Jul 20 2012, 01:36 PM)
lowest 463 highest 646 with cry
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My opinion,
ACT 1 need around 500-600 AR, (chop like vege need 800 AR)
ACT 2 need around 800 AR.
ACR 3 need around 900-1000 AR.

If you have LOH or used certain skill i guess might be OK with lower AR.
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post Jul 20 2012, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(mothangel @ Jul 20 2012, 01:43 PM)
im just having problem with some elite with certain affix lol
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What kind of elite you have problem?
I hate those with shield + wall + laser + (poison or fire at floor).
Very difficult for melee.

Mortar the best for barbarian.
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post Jul 20 2012, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Abbys @ Jul 20 2012, 01:45 PM)
got ppl do act2 boss run? Stack 5NV n kill act2 boss name wat Bellia? forget real name.....
Will this boss gv nice eq? cos thinking of slow n safe farm at act3 better or fast run act2 n repeat... me ~15min for 1 act2 run. (stack 5NV direct find boss kill) yesterday just start this act2 farm.
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With 5 NV stack, killed belial. and i get 2 x lvl 55 items and 1 crap lvl 60 item.
I think if you die, it affects ur drop rates.
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post Jul 20 2012, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Abbys @ Jul 20 2012, 02:03 PM)
Ic... get 1 time lv63x2 helm + lv62 shoulder + lv62 pant with 290% MF.... open all is..... send to npc.... ;p Nvm i try run few round see tonite....


Added on July 20, 2012, 2:06 pmI recap something.... b4 that 1month ago in general channel i saw a ppl post pink weapon.... base dmg is 10K !!!! got this kind weapon???
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Need to farm in a large pool then we only can see the real result.
eg: 200 times.
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post Jul 23 2012, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(OldManChild @ Jul 22 2012, 07:22 PM)
any barb here have try duel wield 1hand mighty weapon + whirlwind skill?
can survive inferno act 1 & 2 or not?

feel free to comment my current barb item, need to improve
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You need 500-600 AR at Inferno.
first, get ur gear AR up to 400 at least, then use warcry impunity skill.
life need at least 40-45K for act 1 (If your AR is bout 600 after skill).
dmg wise, 10-15K.

Now myself AR 900 after skill.
Life is 50K with dual-wield, one hand is 55K with shield.
Dmg is bout 18K.
chop the mob like vegetable.
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post Jul 23 2012, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Jul 23 2012, 11:07 AM)
AR : 500++ (after warcry is 700-800 +)
DMG: 27k
Life: 34k
Armour : 9k ++

0 life steal or Loh. So sad~~

Struggling in act 3 inferno. Limited budget to push more cz the gears kinda exp. Got 10 mil but everything seem unaffordable. Bid 1 ring less that 1 mil, after one day... It shoot up to 7-9 mil..

Wanna ask how does the skill overpower (revel) works? Is it we gain life for hit enemy or being hit?

Add: crit DMG: 260%
Crit chance: 25%
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Even I have 600 LOH and 900 AR, i also need to kite in act 3. I have 55K life, Armor bout 8-9K.

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post Jul 23 2012, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Jul 23 2012, 11:26 AM)
What skill set u use? Mind to share?
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I use:
1. Stun
2. Revenge - eat life
3. War cry - impunity
4. Barserker - 60% dodge

a. Frezy - eat life
b. WirldWind - use to chao lou!

previously i have a problem killing the gohm, so i change my mind and bought some weapon with socket so i can put my 300x2 LOH.
But honestly, barbarian life is very difficult sad.gif(


Added on July 23, 2012, 12:38 pm
QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 23 2012, 11:23 AM)
Please add me. My Monk needs Barb a companion in A3 Inferno.
ALeUNe#6127
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Will add u tonight! ALeUNe#6127 thx.

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post Jul 24 2012, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(lamefish @ Jul 23 2012, 04:31 PM)
Received few pms asking what gears and build i used to farm act3, will post it here so our fellow barb can also use as referance. cheers

Stats :
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Build : http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barb...;ZYb!abcacb

Gears : http://imgur.com/a/1fJl7#12
P/S: I would sometimes switch Nerves of Steel for Bloodthirst so i have a total of 8.1 lifesteal%
because at this point 70% damage reduction is sufficient enough to tank provided you have decent amount of dps to go with lifesteal.
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the resist like that can tahan meh in act 3?
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post Jul 24 2012, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(lamefish @ Jul 24 2012, 10:31 AM)
Yup more than enough for me cuz i killed champion/elite packs in 3-4 seconds so doesn't really matter much.

Although i'd like to say it is best to have 600ar minimum.
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post Jul 26 2012, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 26 2012, 03:19 PM)
Helo may I regard barb skills overpower(crushing advance )n revenge ( active ) wht is different, cos when I hits I was pressing it.non stop..when revenge active ...?which one better can survive.. I get confused sometime?
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Revenge is like u get hit then u can click it.
crushing power got cooldown.
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post Jul 26 2012, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 26 2012, 03:36 PM)
[U]

So when I killing my Hp drop at the moment, yes revenge get hurt when I press active, but my hp cant cover 50% ,if I killing, my Hp was dropping I can use overpower get full Hp cover?
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i kill gohm, hp reach less than 20%, i press crushing power then hp ges up max.
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post Jul 27 2012, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 27 2012, 08:59 AM)
There is no LOH in your current setup. You will need that in A3/A4.

You have quite low HP. Quite low AR too (600+ after WC).
You don't tank. You just can't tank when you fight elites/champions. I believe you have problem to fight normal creeps too.
Half of your HP gone if you receive 2-3 hits. It is pain-in-the-ass to chase the desert hornets.

So, yo don't tank. You just can't tank.
You use dual-wield. You can deliver decent DPS.
What you can do is, use the skill WoTB+EQ(CA) just to kill the elites/champions as fast as you can.

Change your skill and you should be able to do A2.
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No one can stand on fire unless ur damage reduction is maybe 90%? and LOH 2K? haha

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