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The Amateur Working Bee
post Jul 6 2012, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Phonzy @ Jul 6 2012, 01:30 PM)
hehe i was a typical 1100 all resist , 35% block chance barb with 1200 life on hit ... and 22k dps

this was my old set : http://i46.tinypic.com/2wp2iza.jpg (managed to sell it all to some american for 1200 USD, unbelievable, yeah..tell me about it, surprised myself)

no problem clearing everything but i dunno i felt quite gimp la i wanted to tear things apart..till i sold everything and used 200 usd to discover crit

i'm not here to preach but just showing all barbs out there that do not be constraint to the typical sword and board builds and there are many other paths to go out there! smile.gif
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i think if you read the thread you will understand why most barbs are constraint to the typical board build, not everyone have that 200USD to start a crit build, as it is, getting gears that are crit based is basically a competition against DH and monks user, obviously barbs are the underdogs here UNLESS you are lucky.

ada wang ada amoi, same rule applies man
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post Jul 6 2012, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Jul 6 2012, 01:40 PM)
Well, he's also shown that it's cheaper to own dps gear than it is to own tank gear
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point taken, but honestly, USD1200 for that, idkman, i cant really take that amount srsly to gauge the value of both sets tbh, thats just me lol
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post Jul 11 2012, 08:23 PM

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any barbs that needs Hell-inferno STARTER gears pm me ur tag NOW!

ill add and u join the game, pick what u want, the whole map is full of gears LOL
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post Jul 23 2012, 11:27 AM

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inferno hardcore barb reporting in, i now kecut d, dun dare walk in inferno trololol
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post Jul 23 2012, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 23 2012, 11:12 AM)
0 AR in Hell Mode? You must have god-like armor and skill that can withstand/dodge arcane/poison/fire in Hell mode.
I was a noobie Barb. I needed 100AR in Act4 Hell Mode (if my memory serves me right).


Added on July 23, 2012, 11:13 am
You may need to check with currylaksa on how to get 1-2M gears.
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0 AR is harsh for hell act4, running on more or less 100 AR now in hell act3 comfortable, dont do direct tanking, mostly involving avoiding arcane poison and shit
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post Jul 23 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Jul 23 2012, 11:30 AM)
To be honest, you really need to get a softcore barbarian to learn how to handle softcore elites/bosses/normal mobs.  No way you should let your HC barb play in hardcore, without first finding out if the similarly geared barb can handle softcore inferno.  Otherwise you'll probably just die to the first elite you meet tongue.gif
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not rly, depends on your logical thinking skills imho, you get the 1st hit, pain? run fast fast to the nearest portal.

my 1st DH was at hardcore, reached lvl41 and died coz some idiots at pub were shitty

2nd DH reached 53 and died coz i underestimated the power of horder jailer elite at a room and went in to take it on TWICE before dying

super lols, i miss my sexy DHs now QQ

experience in softcore do help thou have to agree, it gives u an upper hand to never underestimate what you are gonna face in inferno. the difficulty gap between hell and inferno is preddy wide


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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 23 2012, 11:31 AM)
Bee was softcore king barb once before so no worry.
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dafuq lol manaada.jpg ahaha

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post Jul 23 2012, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 23 2012, 11:45 AM)
WTF... no!! mad.gif

You don't need AR for Hell. You don't even need much for Inferno Act 1.

The only thing you need for Hell is a cheap "reduced level requirement" weapon from AH.
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when u cant afford those or when its not available, still have to make do with cheap AR gears mate, go HC and check it out, the BEST progression of ppl i know they reach act2 and kena tapao by belial, replay again, gear availability in HC is different than SC man, if u lucky or rich u can get a lowered requirement lvl60 gear and steamroll (assuming u dont make a mistake getting trapped or die one shot that is). 1 mistake in HC is more punishing than SC, i dont dare to risk my baby for the sake of my own ego to survive hell without AR lol


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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Jul 23 2012, 11:50 AM)
I've made 2 HC barbs, both times deaths were due to underestimating elites.  That's why i'm on SC to learn how to deal with them and to learn what type of gear i need to progress.  Having said that, i'm actually enjoying SC inferno after facerolling through nightmare/hell (i still died about 6-7 times but it's really from stupidity more than anything else) because there's actually a challenge now.

You sound like you're playing S+B, so for bosses you need to know if you're going to beat the enrage timer on inferno.  Anyway, grats on 60 and good luck in inferno tongue.gif
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S+B is more useful when it comes to saving your dps in your team when shit happens and save them from death, unless you are rich or lucky then by all means go dps, i used a knife and a board for my current barb, for frenzy smite to seperate the elites from targeting my dps

put it this way, ive noticed act3 for instance, elite and champ packs sometimes come together, meaning they are clumped, arcane molten waller jailer horde and firechain constantly appears as their affixes, if you are goin dual weild dps or whatever, are you willing to risk your charc to save another? are you confident to be able to kill or hold ALL of em before they wipe ur party?

imho there is no definate combination of which is better, its only a difference in playstyle and the amount of risk you want to take and what you want to be able to do.

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post Jul 23 2012, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 23 2012, 12:11 PM)
ooops this is hardcore discussion is it? rclxub.gif

nothing to do here... <flies away> whistling.gif
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nolar bro, just sayin it applies too

the difference is you cant afford to die only mah, so if we are talking about not dying while doing a barbs job, then yeah AR is needed, softcore you have no risk mah, then it applies lor xD but imo, its worth getting AR for hell, more or less 100 is more than enough, no need more than that.
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post Jul 23 2012, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Jul 23 2012, 12:18 PM)
no no see previous page for comedy 100AR in nightmare comment, your comment is still relevant.
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just read that lol

imho, the only period where AR comes to play is only on Hell mode act3, anythin lower than that is waste of gold. /endstory
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 23 2012, 12:25 PM)
TBH I'm not sure about take AR gears for hell hardcore too. Budget cost of AR is very expensive, you can't squeeze a lot of AR out of a ilvl 51 item.

Running through EHP calculator, you're still better off stacking VIT with nerves of steel because armor works against all damage types.
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depends, ashera's set is quite affordable, if i remember when im home after work, ill take a screenie of my gears and price spent on them, its under 400k
ashera's pants gives like around a confirmed 100vit (might be slotted and u can slot in a cheap vit gem)

ashera's gloves gives around a confirmed 100str

combo gives 30 AR iirc

the rest i forgot where i got it from lolol prolly from random int or something

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post Jul 24 2012, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(lamefish @ Jul 24 2012, 12:00 PM)
Just so u know..i can kill elite/champs even without berserk. I reserved wotb for elite/champions with nightmarish/jailer just so i don't waste too much time.

As for white mobs..you don't need berserk to clear them. We barbs have revenge/overpower, use them to keep hp up.

Normaly, i just ran past white mobs because it's not worth the time to kill them. When i farm i focus on just elite/champs for the rares and just leave behind anything below ilvl61. Pretty much most barbs who farms act3 just ignore white mobs. Not because they can't handle but it's just not worth the time.

At the moment, the fastest i can clear the whole act3 is 1hour 30mins. Only way to go below 1 hour is to farm with whirlwind build. Theres a guy called Kripparian on youtube does it under 40mins with whirlwind build you guys should check his video out smile.gif

Old screenshot from the rares i get from full act3 clear not including all the rares below ilvl61
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mad respect for you mate thumbup.gif

you play solo? or u have kaki play?
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post Jul 26 2012, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jul 26 2012, 11:00 AM)
i heard overpower is bugged on ghom. so barb cant really die. lol...or use the furious charge god mode. LOL
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overpower isint a bug

charging god mode is a bug
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post Jul 27 2012, 01:55 PM

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weapon mostly

some armor do have LOH too, most of them legendaries

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post Jul 27 2012, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 27 2012, 02:03 PM)
However thks... but I was saw alot player use barb dint have LoH at all , less life regeneration n armor around 7k also... I can't imagine how to survive a2 a3 a4 ..
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depends on your build and strategy, some ppl's playstyle is diff, what suits them might not suit you even thou it works, best is to keep a rather open mind, unless its bullocks that is ahahah
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post Jul 27 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jul 27 2012, 02:55 PM)
any idea if 2 barbarian playing, 1 using Invigorate and the other one use Impunity,
will both affect party?
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it will replace each other lol, so both of u must decide which one both of you want
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post Jul 27 2012, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 27 2012, 03:19 PM)
In short, Barbs can't really tank, especially come to A3/A4.
I played in public game most of the time for many weeks now and I have not seen one Barb tanker.
The best tanker I've seen so far is a Wizard.
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time to dig Duckhole and MoodSwing out to tank
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post Jul 27 2012, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 27 2012, 03:24 PM)
Duckhole has gone DPS.
Moodswing, can't remember his DPS as a tanker.
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he finished the game before patch 1.0.3 as tanker, DPS was a side project coz that period many barbs here were complaining DPS is impossible

moodswing was tanker too, he got lazy and went with the 1m budget frenzy, i now also dunno what build hes doing ahahahah

oit moodswing, come ehreeee
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post Jul 27 2012, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 27 2012, 03:30 PM)
I am not sure whether they can stand on a pool of fire/poison/arcane for 30 seconds or not.
I saw a Wizard standing still for more than 1 min tanking, with fire/poison/arcane under his feet + 4 elites surrounded him (other 3 players already dead).
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able to tank and able to tank+kill is 2 different thing man

tanking AND able to keep your dps alive is also another thing

whats the point of tanking if ur dps die and u can stand there for 1min and cant kill shit till the enrage timer hits?

imho tanking is not an easy job especially on how the AI's are scripted, dunno why players keep using the word "tank" so freely lol
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jul 27 2012, 03:39 PM)
oit. apa mau lol  tongue.gif
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ur barb no more tanking act3/4 jor?
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 27 2012, 03:30 PM)
I am not sure whether they can stand on a pool of fire/poison/arcane for 30 seconds or not.
I saw a Wizard standing still for more than 1 min tanking, with fire/poison/arcane under his feet + 4 elites surrounded him (other 3 players already dead).
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youre like comparing builds without even considering gear wise swt

i dont even know how good the other 3 players or what kinda gears the wiz is on

the wiz im sure other than wicked wind he has diamond skin permaed, its a basic crit tanker build that requires high crit and loh gears

if you gear your barb according to needs of a particular tanking build, 30sec isint a problem

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