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ALeUNe
post Aug 23 2012, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Aug 23 2012, 12:00 AM)
no more LOH proc on Overpower.. sad.. sad.gif
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Sure? I thought those WW-Tornado Barbs are still using the overpower?
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post Aug 23 2012, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Aug 23 2012, 06:03 PM)
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Those WW-Tornado barbs love this. laugh.gif
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post Aug 24 2012, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(fazran17 @ Aug 24 2012, 09:43 AM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/boomsla...46/hero/2539950
Any suggestion for me how to survive in act3?
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Curry has given you a good advice to increase your DPS.

I would like to give you a very different advice.
Just another option for you.
Move away your shield.
Sell it and get another good DPS weapon with 950+ LOH.
With 2 weapons, you have about 1900LOH.
Then, try to get another 400 LOH from your amulet and rings.

You will go dual wield with this build.
You will have at least 20K DPS. That is good enough for A3/A4 (especially after the patch & REND).
You will have 2200++ LOH too.
With such LOH + the skill REND, you can whack like a boss in A3/A4.

I did the same and I could just stand there and whack without kiting.
I got killed 1-2 times during the game (A3/A4) if there are 3-4 arcanes + fire + poison hit me simultaneously.

P/S Let's not forget, with LOH build, you can opt for WW-Tornado (IMO, I think it is the best build for barb, offensively and defensively)

P/S You have problem because you have half-baked LOH. 950 LOH doesn't give you enough impact.
Double your current LOH + another 400 LOH (you need at least 2200 LOH) to be a boss again. tongue.gif

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post Aug 24 2012, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(fazran17 @ Aug 24 2012, 10:42 AM)
eh.move my shiled?i tot shield important for blocking and defences.
Btw, life steal and LOH should be same rite?
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lifesteal and LOH are different.
LOH are way more effective.

Why need to block?
I'm not saying you can't use shield & block.
If you need shield, at least, you need to increase DPS.

Basically we see 2 types of Barbs that do well in A3/A4.
Barbs with high DPS (with or without shield). With REND, they are like boss now.
Barbs with WW-Tornado, they kill monsters in bulk like boss.
Both builds are offensive type.

Barbs don't go defense anymore. laugh.gif

P/S I give you another option, Barb with high LOH (you need at least 2200LOH + 20K DPS).

P/S Just to give you an idea, with high LOH, I can kill Ghom without Overpower (CA). Just stand there and whack the fat fart.

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post Aug 24 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(fazran17 @ Aug 24 2012, 10:53 AM)
i see..thanks for your suggestion. biggrin.gif
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Just a note, if you want to stick to shield and want higher DPS, you may need a total revamp of your gears.
Just as suggested by curry.
Weapon (with socket), helm, gloves, bracer, amulet, rings and even shield.
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post Aug 24 2012, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(stevie @ Aug 24 2012, 11:20 AM)
i feel saiyan still important if u face 2 packs with crowd control. but i was actually thinking about putting revenge + rend in it as well. lol

was thinking about using 2H, but my AR is too low for that.
so i'm currently bidding for a nice sword. hopefully i win. haha

i'll be on today 3-6pm i guess. and later on 11/12am+

add me fthis#6363 for anyone who wants help to craft flawless stars biggrin.gif
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I heed your advice. I put a ruby in my helm and my XP grow fast now. laugh.gif

P/S But I lost almost 10K of HP. But still able to survive. It's ok as long as I can survive.

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post Aug 24 2012, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Aug 24 2012, 11:22 AM)
what u mention is just similar like my build

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/zhong-6483/hero/5890335
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You have high DPS.
You have high LOH.
You have high HP.
You can go whirlwind like a boss too.
Even without WW+Tornado, you can still whack like a boss in arcane + poison + fire + gang-bang. laugh.gif
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post Aug 24 2012, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(stevie @ Aug 24 2012, 11:32 AM)
the sword i'm bidding on is
1009.5 dps
302 str
166 int
102 vit
10% IAS
and socket

highly doubt i can win it tho with my funds hahaha
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300+ STR

Mother of god... shocking.gif
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post Aug 24 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Aug 24 2012, 11:37 AM)
i still had alot of gear for barb, i can give u all great discount so i can assist u all clear all the inferno lv....
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Yeap, Barb should help Barb. laugh.gif
Make a snapshot on the gears you want to sell.

I'll give my Barb a total revamp once my Wiz & WD complete Inferno.
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post Aug 24 2012, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(stevie @ Aug 24 2012, 12:02 PM)
actually, if u read skorn's proc.
it's like buy 1 free rend.

http://i.imgur.com/LCHFy.jpg
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They doubled it, as planned. laugh.gif
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post Aug 24 2012, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Aug 24 2012, 03:15 PM)
guide and advice plz...i cant go through a3..@.@

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/chchan-6525/hero/7554956
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As amiranna pointed, stats wised, you are good enough.

As cheer83 pointed, as you are WW-Tornado Barb, you need high LOH.
Obviously you do not have enough LOH.

As you do not have enough LOH, you just play normal dual-wield barb.
I still believe you can clear A3 easily with your stats.

Add me ALeUNe#6127 if you want to play co-op.
We fast fast clear A3/A4.
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post Aug 24 2012, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(stevie @ Aug 24 2012, 11:23 AM)
very very nice manticore btw. easily 200+ mil haha
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Wow... you are like fortune teller.
I sold my Manticore for 200M at AH.
After 15% reduction, I still got 170M. tongue.gif
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post Aug 25 2012, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Aug 24 2012, 10:40 PM)
bling bling  drool.gif
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QUOTE(stevie @ Aug 24 2012, 11:05 PM)
Grats man. Haha time for monk v2 with massively upgraded kit to faceroll paragon levelling. smile.gif 4x higher than my biggest sale haha
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I can't imagine those spent 200M D3 gold on gears (assuming they are not botters).
Just not me.

It's pure luck.
I'll use the gold to get a ring for my monk. To make her more imba against 3-4 arcanes.
And spend some gold on my WD and WZ.




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post Aug 26 2012, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Balaclava @ Aug 26 2012, 12:32 PM)
lifesteal breakseven with LOH around 80k dps. In which, after 80k DPS mark, lifesteal will be more efficient than LOH in terms of life per hit.
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What kind of lifesteal % are you referring to? hmm.gif
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post Aug 27 2012, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Aug 27 2012, 01:46 PM)
Honestly really not cheap bro mine barb ww tornado now spend more then 200m dy. Tats y I just focus one character only, now I dont enough gold to spend my my character.... poor dy....
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People keep coming back since patch 104.
I think the price at AH reaches its all time high.

I just sold my boots for 5m yesterday.
I posted it at AH for 2m few weeks ago and it turned out no one wanted it.

Be patient... hold our horses.
We will get cheap items for our Barbs soon... real soon. laugh.gif
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post Aug 27 2012, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(four_add @ Aug 27 2012, 02:57 PM)
with the new patch 1.0.4, I think Rend (700%) is really nice for damaging enemy gangbang. biggrin.gif

can survive up until Ghom. But without LoH & only 13k DPS(1Handed+1Shield), I could not defeat it. sad.gif

tried with +1300 LoH dual handed axe, but stil cant survive.. attack speed too slow me thinks.
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Try 2200+ LOH, you'll whack him like a boss.

By the way, the overpower (CA) trick doesn't work anymore?
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post Aug 27 2012, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Aug 27 2012, 03:24 PM)
yes, same for molten / plague elite.. but now arcane more "friendly"  tongue.gif
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Yeap, generally you can just stand there and whack.

But need to be very careful as well. Sometimes molten+desecrator combo can really drain the HP fast.
And sometimes, you didn't aware you step right in the middle of arcane. laugh.gif
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post Sep 6 2012, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(fanworld @ Sep 6 2012, 12:17 PM)
thanks bro. really appreciate it.

i am first time diablo player so i am not aware of some acronyms posted above. Will refer to your build guide however I am not sure whether my gear is good enough.
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You want to follow his build? 13K DPS? Serious?
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post Sep 6 2012, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 6 2012, 12:22 PM)
Ha3x, ALeUNe you don't know what you're talking about. I've just sold off 2 of my star rubies.
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2 star rubies give you additional 800+ DPS, I think.


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QUOTE(fanworld @ Sep 6 2012, 12:24 PM)
one thing though even though my dps is 18k now. I am getting more cooked compared to when it was 15 because my resistance are lower.
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Post the link of your profile.

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post Sep 6 2012, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Penangnitesz @ Sep 6 2012, 12:40 PM)
This is my barbarian now, i was using cleave with skorn and i can crit for 400k damage and 800k in wotb with insanity rune.
No problem to solo act 3 and act 4 without dying if i use rend + cleave.

Last night however, i tried out WW with tornados and i could clear siege beaker in < 6mins with all elites but sometimes i can die sometimes.

My ice climbers doesnt have movement speed. Thinking of dropping it to get a boots with movement speed but low in gold now sad.gif. So sifus out there, if i wan to switch my barb to pure ww build, do u think i should sell off my skorn and get dual hand with some loh?

what do u think i can improve in my build further?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Corrosive-6672/
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No people can play Inferno if you have problem with your 100K DPS.
Your build is good enough.

If you wanna go dual-wield + WW-Tornado, you need high LOH.


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