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The Amateur Working Bee
post Jun 18 2012, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 18 2012, 10:43 AM)
revenge r the best skills that barbarian got.. the rest still ok but cd quite long..
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dude...daheck ur talking bout?

revenge proc upon hit, once triggered, you just activate it, the only cooldown is the animation delay, wtf u talking bout cooldown?
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post Jun 18 2012, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jun 18 2012, 10:45 AM)
dude...daheck ur talking bout?

revenge proc upon hit, once triggered, you just activate it, the only cooldown is the animation delay, wtf u talking bout cooldown?
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lol thanks for helping me make my point tongue.gif


Added on June 18, 2012, 10:53 amanyways i think my build will be retarded once they nerf attack speed

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post Jun 18 2012, 10:56 AM

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From the looks of it, i'll need better vit and str equipment. Any fellow barbarian here with extra vit + str equipment they want to let go?

Thanks in advance. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 18 2012, 10:56 AM

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need recommended barb stats before facing diablo HC nightmare.

Mine now is
lvl 51,
18kHP
4k armor (62% DR, warcry +20% armor)
3k dmg, (Rage +30% dmg rune)
26% dodge(warcry + dodge 15% rune)
15 all resist (may be 11 all resist only. i nvr stack this stats until hell>.<)

Skill.
Frenzy + side arm
Super Saiyan transformation + 100% dmg
Revange + 8% heath each hit.
Warcry + 15% dodge
Rage + 30% dmg
Rush + recover 2secs coodown each hit.

Do i have to reduce my health and get some more armor or resist?
At this time all gear @ AH is very expensive.
I almost die a few time to reach the door before diablo.
i dun wanna die without preparing myself to face him/herlol.

Should i get more HP or armor?
Dmg is hard to increase due to weapon price so damn expensive.
May be ill swap rush with leap...so i can leap over the two holes when i need to kite Leah.

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post Jun 18 2012, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jun 18 2012, 11:45 AM)
dude...daheck ur talking bout?

revenge proc upon hit, once triggered, you just activate it, the only cooldown is the animation delay, wtf u talking bout cooldown?
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i talk bout other skills need cd.. revenge no need ma..
The Amateur Working Bee
post Jun 18 2012, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 18 2012, 11:00 AM)
i talk bout other skills need cd.. revenge no need ma..
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yes, but dodge is not a primary stats barb need.

pots have CD hence skills that heals a good amount like revenge need to proc more often to maintain that health pool, dodge will just screw u up, even with provocation rune, revenge sometimes just dont proc as much as needed, additional dodge will screw u up lol
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To those that asked what weapon I'm using, here it is.

I'm just so f***ing pissed that the Attack Speed nerf will probably make this item useless. Every barb might as well buy a non attack speed weapon with high dps. That means, in the future, we will have a lot of gay dagger wielding barbs.

Hope the unofficial patch notes are untrue in regards to the IAS nerf.


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post Jun 18 2012, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(Phonzy @ Jun 18 2012, 11:06 AM)
Hope the unofficial patch notes are untrue in regards to the IAS nerf.

what exactly are you hoping is "untrue?" blues have already said in the official 1.03 design preview that IAS will definitely be nerfed in some way. are you hoping that your 19% will be just reduced to like 16%? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Phonzy @ Jun 18 2012, 11:06 AM)
To those that asked what weapon I'm using, here it is.

I'm just so f***ing pissed that the Attack Speed nerf will probably make this item useless. Every barb might as well buy a non attack speed weapon with high dps. That means, in the future, we will have a lot of gay dagger wielding barbs.

Hope the unofficial patch notes are untrue in regards to the IAS nerf.
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nice vit stats

the demand is already there

i tried to buy a exalted grand piercer plan to smith

price hiked up so bad already, so sad

daggers are getting hawt soon yo
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post Jun 18 2012, 11:12 AM

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I'm hoping that this will be untrue:

The attack speed affix has been reduced significantly on all items. The following list outlines all of the previous values and new values for each affix level. This should give you a rough idea of how much IAS you should expect to lose.

UPDATE: IAS on Quivers appears to be unchanged, I checked a few (including Dead Man's Legacy) and they retained their pre 1.0.3 values.

Weapons
​Haste 1: Old: (2-3%) New: (2%)
Haste 2: Old: (4-5%) New: (2%)
Haste 3: Old: (6-7%) New: (2-3%)
Haste 4: Old: (8-9%) New: (2-3%)
Haste 5: Old: (10-11%) New: (3-4%)
Haste 6: Old: (12-13%) New: (3-4%)
Haste 7: Old: (14-15%) New: (5%)
Haste 8: Old: (16-17%) New: (6-7%)
Haste 9: Old: (18-19%) New: (8-9%)
Haste 10: Old: (20-25%) New: (10-11%)

Other Types (Rings, Amulet, Gloves, Legendaries)
Haste 1: Old: (2-3%) New: (2%)
Haste 2: Old: (4-5%) New: (2-3%)
Haste 3: Old: (6-7%) New: (3-4%)
Haste 4: Old: (8-9%) New: (3-4%)
Haste 5: Old: (10-11%) New: (4-5%)
Haste 6: Old: (12-13%) New: (5-6%)
Haste 7: Old: (14-15%) New: (6-7%)
Haste 8: Old: (16-17%) New: (8-9%)

Source: http://d3db.com/news/id/268-datamined-1031...tes-unofficial/

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post Jun 18 2012, 11:23 AM

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Yeah IAS nerf is going to hit barbs real hard, already we depending on loh to survive, lower than 2 ias really hurts a lot. Hope they just make it a curve where the more ias gear you are wearing, the less effective it gets.

That way it will not still be overpowered but still useful stats on the items.
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post Jun 18 2012, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(duckhole @ Jun 18 2012, 11:23 AM)
Yeah IAS nerf is going to hit barbs real hard, already we depending on loh to survive, lower than 2 ias really hurts a lot. Hope they just make it a curve where the more ias gear you are wearing, the less effective it gets.

That way it will not still be overpowered but still useful stats on the items.
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well on the bright side they are nerfing act2-4 inferno, so in a sense its still ok i guess
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post Jun 18 2012, 11:34 AM

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All speculation. I hope they release the official patch notes soon, before maintenance, and not do a ninja patch update on us.
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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jun 18 2012, 11:25 AM)
well on the bright side they are nerfing act2-4 inferno, so in a sense its still ok i guess
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a2-4 was not overpowered or impossible to begin with. you just need the right gears, skills sets and player skills.

too bad majority of the d3 melee players are crybabies and noobs. whole barb/monk forum let them cry till blizzard have to sympathize.

i feel sad this patch have to come, prices of items will go down and rmah sales will slow down. lame patch for gimps.
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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jun 18 2012, 11:25 AM)
well on the bright side they are nerfing act2-4 inferno, so in a sense its still ok i guess
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yepp, at least i got chance to advance further than ACT 1... rclxms.gif
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post Jun 18 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(duckhole @ Jun 17 2012, 04:02 PM)
Well you can't play barbs like in D2 anymore, you need all the defensive passive else you are going to have a hard time in inferno. If you follow my built, you should be able to kill all the things solo, even diablo in inferno with 5nv stacks. I tried removing superstition for other offensive passive, just not worth it for the amount of damage you take in return. 20% of magic reduction is a lot.

I deal good amount of damage and don't die like a fly. Use leap and rush to go in and out of battles when needed, it helps a lot. Berserk up when meet elite, if weak elite can kill all in one burst, stronger ones, just kill off 1-2 or all the minions first.

I usually farm a3 elites, easy and they drop the same stuffs as a4 and ponies.

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Those stats with war cry on or off?

wow.. really nice.. if comparing mine and yours its like heaven and hell.

i still pretty struggling to get AR to pass 600 mark, armor is at 9k and HP 50k. DPS at 14k only. (stats with war cry on)

Really some advise on how to get good gears besides AH. I cant go Act 2, so just butcher farming.
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QUOTE(duckhole @ Jun 18 2012, 11:35 AM)
a2-4 was not overpowered or impossible to begin with. you just need the right gears, skills sets and player skills.

too bad majority of the d3 melee players are crybabies and noobs. whole barb/monk forum let them cry till blizzard have to sympathize.

i feel sad this patch have to come, prices of items will go down and rmah sales will slow down. lame patch for gimps.
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i half agree to that, coz we still have to admit that barb has limitations to gameplay options, specifically in order for casual players to survive, shield is a requirement, im not saying its impossible to dual and 2 hand inferno, im saying its not casual player friendly, comparitively to other classes, but yeah, its hard to say thou how much it would affect RMAH and GAH prices considering that they were also gonna add chances of endgears dropping(at a low rate) at act3/4 HELL mode onwards
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QUOTE(duckhole @ Jun 18 2012, 11:35 AM)
a2-4 was not overpowered or impossible to begin with. you just need the right gears, skills sets and player skills.

too bad majority of the d3 melee players are crybabies and noobs. whole barb/monk forum let them cry till blizzard have to sympathize.

i feel sad this patch have to come, prices of items will go down and rmah sales will slow down. lame patch for gimps.
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fully agree with u man...

looks like whining will get u what u want in blizzard
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QUOTE(mugenz @ Jun 18 2012, 11:36 AM)
Those stats with war cry on or off?

wow.. really nice.. if comparing mine and yours its like heaven and hell.

i still pretty struggling to get AR to pass 600 mark, armor is at 9k and HP 50k. DPS at 14k only. (stats with war cry on)

Really some advise on how to get good gears besides AH. I cant go Act 2, so just butcher farming.
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just keep farming warden+butcher till the patch if you don't want to go buy gears from ah.
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post Jun 18 2012, 11:45 AM

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I really think All Resist is wayy OVERRATED. At the end of the day, its just ONE stat.

Remember that these are also important for soloing inferno:

STRENGTH = What is dead can't hit you, nothing to resist from them.
VITALITY = Which barb doesn't like this?
LIFE% = Abuse this shit, it's powerful.
LOH and ATTK SPEED = Saved my life countless times.

I think All Resist 700-800 also more than enough to farm Act 4. Use Superstition.

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