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tgrrr
post Jul 12 2012, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Jul 12 2012, 11:43 AM)
i use gargantuan for decoy, but hell mode it very easy die... sad.gif

was thinking to change zombie bear but the mana cost too high, i always run out of mana... sad.gif

BBV Slame Dance increase 30% Damage. with Soul Harvest and BBV SD, my DPS can reach 10k+... mean if i wan maintain Dart, i need get higher DPS weapon right?

Ya hor, can use JF so i can tahan longer... so do the Gargantuan... Noted...

i use fetish army bcoz when i SH + BBV SD, their damage also increase, i think la... i donno got buff them or not... so i can clear elites faster...
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Problem is you're trying many different thing, and they don't synergy well.

Garg need high armor (use shield?) and fierce loyalty so it can regen and survive. Overall pets still doesn't work unless you really got very good gear.
Using BBV to boost dart damage just doesn't make sense when you have other skills that do way more damage to multiple targets. 3 bears hitting 1 large target == 700% damage. You got your DPS boost up, but mobs will be all over you, and you are only hitting 1 at a time plus you cannot move away very far. Will GG very fast.
Fetish is not bad to distract elites and so on, but use up 1 skill slot. Fetish ambush is pretty powerful to save your skin when kena mobbed. Only problem is the high cool down so usually only 1 cast per elite fight.
But having 3 skills with high CD is ... sweat.gif If garg, BBV and fetish all on CD, then you're just sitting duck.

WD is about managing your mana. I don't use VQ, don't like it at all, so managing mana is crucial to me.
Been experimenting using BBV with Rain Dance, but it limits mobility. Don't work well against all types of Elites or in all situations.

Normally I have 1 spam-able damage skill e.g. darts, firebombs, or spiders,
and 1 high hitting, high mana cost attack e.g. bears, bats, acid rain.
Switch between them depend on current mana level and your tactical advantage.
Haunt is another good skill, but I'm outta skill slots! cry.gif

What is your weapon DPS? I think I got 1 500 DPS knife from my time in Hell. Forgot what's the weapon iLvl already. If suitable for you, you can have it for free.
Oh and enchantress got power armor, increase your armor by 15%.


QUOTE(DrLaboo @ Jul 12 2012, 12:00 PM)
i solely rely on AR and LoH
the more the enemy the better (with Acid Rain i LoH everyone 1/2 of the screen lol)
vision quest is a must! soul harvest too!
can play inferno 1 2 3 no problem.. (act 4 need to use shield but elites took freaking long to kill :sweat)

later i'll post my equiptment
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Waah.. with your gear you still got issue with Act 4? Die la we all sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jul 12 2012, 01:28 PM

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Ya, all die.... i suffer alot in passing Act3 solo and seem can do it haha
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post Jul 12 2012, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Jul 12 2012, 12:45 PM)
Problem is you're trying many different thing, and they don't synergy well.

Garg need high armor (use shield?) and fierce loyalty so it can regen and survive. Overall pets still doesn't work unless you really got very good gear.
Using BBV to boost dart damage just doesn't make sense when you have other skills that do way more damage to multiple targets. 3 bears hitting 1 large target == 700% damage. You got your DPS boost up, but mobs will be all over you, and you are only hitting 1 at a time plus you cannot move away very far. Will GG very fast.
Fetish is not bad to distract elites and so on, but use up 1 skill slot. Fetish ambush is pretty powerful to save your skin when kena mobbed. Only problem is the high cool down so usually only 1 cast per elite fight.
But having 3 skills with high CD is ... sweat.gif If garg, BBV and fetish all on CD, then you're just sitting duck.

WD is about managing your mana. I don't use VQ, don't like it at all, so managing mana is crucial to me.
Been experimenting using BBV with Rain Dance, but it limits mobility. Don't work well against all types of Elites or in all situations.

Normally I have 1 spam-able damage skill e.g. darts, firebombs, or spiders,
and 1 high hitting, high mana cost attack e.g. bears, bats, acid rain.
Switch between them depend on current mana level and your tactical advantage.
Haunt is another good skill, but I'm outta skill slots!  cry.gif

What is your weapon DPS? I think I got 1 500 DPS knife from my time in Hell. Forgot what's the weapon iLvl already. If suitable for you, you can have it for free.
Oh and enchantress got power armor, increase your armor by 15%.
Waah.. with your gear you still got issue with Act 4? Die la we all  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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i see, thanks for the advice...

i think i going for test:

gargantuan to zombie bear...

changing spirit vessel to fetish sycophants...

bad medicine > jungle fortitude

and how about fetish army > horrify frightening aspect (100% armor) / ruthless terror (gain 27 mana per horrified enemy)

ya using enchantress right now... she using my old weapon... smile.gif

current dagger 249 dps only... around 150 int and 75 vit i think... socketed with flawless square emerald...
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post Jul 12 2012, 02:01 PM

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Yes try experiment around. That's the fun of this game, and WD is actually very flexible.
But don't change too many things at once in an unsafe location, will die easily happy.gif
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post Jul 12 2012, 03:21 PM

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I can craft the exalted grand manitou mask (lv61, 6 prop).

Do you think it is worth it to craft? The iLvL is lower than the normal 62.
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 12 2012, 03:21 PM)
I can craft the exalted grand manitou mask (lv61, 6 prop).

Do you think it is worth it to craft? The iLvL is lower than the normal 62.
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i also want ask same question how the item lv court?is that each lv have it limit?y i c some low lv item still can hit max stat?n any 1 have any plan (exalted grand lv item)drop from act 2?cos i only have legendy plan drop n exalted fine lv item plan drop from act 2...
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post Jul 12 2012, 03:44 PM

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Lv62 doesn't always roll higher than lv61, it just means lv62 has higher potential.

A lucky lv61 roll will beat an unlucky lv62.
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post Jul 12 2012, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jul 12 2012, 03:21 PM)
I can craft the exalted grand manitou mask (lv61, 6 prop).

Do you think it is worth it to craft? The iLvL is lower than the normal 62.
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Dunno bout crafting.
What's the cost in gold and mats like?
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post Jul 12 2012, 07:23 PM

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35 dust, 5 tears, 10 books, 91k gold :swt:
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post Jul 13 2012, 02:27 AM

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@Metallics

here are my current gears, not a high end list, but manage to let me solo till Act 4
can farm comfortably at Act 3 solo and coop

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post Jul 13 2012, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ Jul 13 2012, 02:27 AM)
@Metallics

here are my current gears, not a high end list, but manage to let me solo till Act 4
can farm comfortably at Act 3 solo and coop

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rclxub.gif berjumlah berjuta-juta kalau beli kat GAH...
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post Jul 13 2012, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(Kissan @ Jul 13 2012, 02:31 AM)
rclxub.gif berjumlah berjuta-juta kalau beli kat GAH...
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total below 30m bro i bluff u not..
dunno why dat time price all 5-6m only
sapu all liao~ laugh.gif
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post Jul 13 2012, 10:38 AM

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managed to survive in act 2 now... now reach the checkpoint after acquired Zoltun Kulle's head... smile.gif

new stat (lv 57):

DPS 7k++
Armor 2.1k++
AR 240++
HP 28k++

changed:
Gargantuan > Zombie Bear
Fetish Army > Mass Confusion (Stun Rune)
Bad Medicine > Jungle Fortitude

follower still enchantress
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post Jul 13 2012, 11:39 AM

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Played with a fellow WD in public game Act I yesterday.
He's got Garg, Dogs, and fetishes running all over the place. I was like WTF??
And he's spamming Acid Rain like mad. Really salute him.
And he's also using Zombie Wall.
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post Jul 13 2012, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Jul 13 2012, 11:39 AM)
Played with a fellow WD in public game Act I yesterday.
He's got Garg, Dogs, and fetishes running all over the place. I was like WTF??
And he's spamming Acid Rain like mad. Really salute him.
And he's also using Zombie Wall.
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bwahaha!
the zombie wall good annot? which rune eh? nvr tried before
wanna test liao..
as long i use vision quest and Acid Rain should be no problem.. brows.gif
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post Jul 13 2012, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ Jul 13 2012, 11:48 AM)
bwahaha!
the zombie wall good annot? which rune eh? nvr tried before
wanna test liao..
as long i use vision quest and Acid Rain should be no problem.. brows.gif
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I also tak tau bout the zombie wall. Useful in dungeons or tight spots kua biggrin.gif
I just rclxub.gif looking at all his pets running around.
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post Jul 13 2012, 01:48 PM

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Hi Everyone,

My second character is a WD and he just reach level 60.

To all sifu here, I am wondering whether wearing stun on hit glove and stun on hit weapon will increase my stun chance? Assuming that both got 4% chance of stun on hit.

Thank you
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QUOTE(hauffman @ Jul 13 2012, 01:48 PM)
Hi Everyone,

My second character is a WD and he just reach level 60.

To all sifu here, I am wondering whether wearing stun on hit glove and stun on hit weapon will increase my stun chance? Assuming that both got 4% chance of stun on hit.

Thank you
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LoH will make alive till act 4
LoH > AR > INT > VIT >ARMOR


Added on July 13, 2012, 2:43 pm
QUOTE(tgrrr @ Jul 13 2012, 01:03 PM)
I also tak tau bout the zombie wall. Useful in dungeons or tight spots kua  biggrin.gif
I just  rclxub.gif  looking at all his pets running around.
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will try pet built tonite! laugh.gif

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post Jul 16 2012, 08:28 AM

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Ok sifu, finish hell and now inferno act 1.

Current stats:

DPS 15,047.83
Armor 3895
AR 232++
HP 32,301

Skill set:
Poison Dart (Splinters)
Zombie Charger (Zombie Bears)
Spirit Walk (Jaunt)
Soul Harvest (Siphon)
Mass Confusion (Mass Hysteria)
Big Bad Voodoo (Slam Dance)

Jungle Fortitude, Pierce the Veil, Spirit Vessel

Act 1 elites eat me... sad.gif

Plz advise...
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post Jul 16 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Jul 16 2012, 08:28 AM)
Ok sifu, finish hell and now inferno act 1.
Act 1 elites eat me... sad.gif

Plz advise...
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It's normal to die in Inferno, the difficulty level jumps up a lot. Forces you to rethink your strategy. Basically (per the developer's suggestion) on entering each new act, focus on survival first, while slowly upgrade gear. Then only improve offense.
And try tackling the elites after clearing the white mobs around em first. You'll soon remember how many elites are in each maps, and how easy it is to tackle each type (monster & affixes).

That said, you need to improve your AR. My spec that managed to get through Act I using darts/bear kiting build is around this,
DPS 20k,
Armor around 4k, Enchantress power armor helps a lot, so is her chicken hex CC.
AR 400+
HP 25k

And I'm using Hex, Horrify (100% armor buff or 20% move speed) replacing your mass confusion and BBV.
Passive is the same as yours, except I swapped between PtV, Bad medicine or one of the mana regen skills I think.


Added on July 16, 2012, 11:32 amAdd on,

But kite and tank build don't need the same spec, so depends on which style you wanna go, might be better to focus on the right gear early on and save the amount of gold you need to spent. Check out Laboo's tank build gear and specs in earlier posts.

This post has been edited by tgrrr: Jul 16 2012, 11:33 AM

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