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 Proton Prevé V8, ► Official Discussions for Proton Prevé

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duan
post May 15 2012, 11:19 AM

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The 1.6 CFE could be a great engine, but we’ll only get to know it better with a proper manual gearbox or a regular torque converter automatic. The latter is unlikely, because a five- or six-speed unit is costly, and Proton has already gone well down the CVT route.

source : http://paultan.org/2012/05/15/driven-proto...-manual-tested/

I agree with Danny Tan on this, i love the combination of Engine+Good Turbo, Handling is superb, but Preve could be better if using regular torque converter or dual clutch.

Remove the unnecessary thing to compensate for the expensive gear box, such as :
- the autorain sensor
- the followme home light
- the auto up/down window
- the changing signal (flick the indicator)
- the remote boot
But it’s just my opinion, transmission is a big factor, but for marketing point of view this gadget is a good value added to user average customer


I have booked this car and will continue to support Preve.

This post has been edited by duan: May 15 2012, 11:32 AM
duan
post May 15 2012, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Gigabit @ May 15 2012, 03:06 PM)
This shows that either

1) Proton misjudge public perception about their car being for lower and middle income group, hence produce 60% of IAFM variant and  40% for CFE doh.gif

2) Public willing to pay RM70k plus for Proton even though there is Jap and Korean make at similar price range. Proton based this assumption on Inspira which IMHO people perceive is like a rebadge version of Lancer.

3) Marketing of Preve was successful
However, minor technical issues like QC and after sales service affect a very good car.
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after a lot for Preve CFE on the road can cucuk2 other lower torque car
sure it will become 100% for CFE laugh.gif
duan
post May 16 2012, 12:58 AM

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but from dyno test on the crank Preve have better torque(NM) at low RPM from 2000-4500, but inspira 197NM at 4,250rpm

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post May 17 2012, 12:17 AM

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He put a playdoh on both upper corner of the small window and the noise disappear
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but thanks to buana345, it's really great contribution.

duan
post May 17 2012, 11:29 AM

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EURO NCAP tested fontal impact tested only at 64 km/h.
200 km/h? please guys care you beloved family members.
duan
post May 18 2012, 11:56 PM

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I don’t think ECU remap will solve the sluggishness issue as explain by Kristof the issue lies on the transmission itself, due to clutch fully disengage with flywheel if you press the brake.

Furthermore this is not twin turbo, correct amount exhaust gas required to spin the turbine in order to get minimum amount of PSI required for compression. And the turbine will start spin at 2K RPM.
duan
post May 22 2012, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(Arell111 @ May 22 2012, 03:00 PM)
On Exora Bolds transmission, it is using Punch Powertrain VT2 which states maximum of 186Nm and 98kW (131hp)
so transmission also konk? Since preve says 220Nm and dyno get 232Nm?

Punch VT2
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220Nm is measurement from direct from engine/flywheel

232Nm from dyno is on the crank is a measurement direct from tyre which already undergo gear ratio

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post May 22 2012, 08:47 PM

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i wonder why Exora Bold and FLX does not have this sluggish issue despite both are using same transmission type .

but Correct me if i am wrong:

Probably remap ECU will solve the problem, basically it will increase the ratio of your pedal press in relation to air/fuel mixture, ignition timing & other 4 stroke process, but bear in mind, more fuel/air burn more and more CO2 emission, as a global car(Prove) proton need to comply with European standard for CO2 emission.

And also since CVT is using wet clutch based transmission it just like manual car, you have to release the clutch gradually, even how much you apply the throttle the clutch won’t fully engage with flywheel as a result more energy wasted because of the dragging.

As a result high fuel consumption like Exora Bold and FLX.

For me I prefer to adapt to driving style, try to increase speed gradually (apply throttle gradually) when more power needed.



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