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 Peugeot 408......, Launching Soon ? Now with pics... :D

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Bearheart
post Sep 25 2012, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Sep 25 2012, 09:20 PM)
My 508? So far so good. It's going to celebrate its first birthday really soon. Until now its already went into the SC for 3 times to fix the leaking PCV hose. Troublesome but at least they seem to have fixed it for good. Overall, I think NAZA's technical personnel is not really up to notch :-/ I really hope the warranty will be over really soon so I can service it at places that knows peugeot better. Well, at least I can use my own preferred engine oil instead of stucked with their petronas solutions

NSE? I only travel up north once a year during CNY times. Everyday else, I'm only going to my office in cyberjaya. FC seem to have improved, not sure whether its due to the engine already run-in or the petronas I'm using (shell before this). 60L can last me on average 700km.

Another thing worth mentioning is, this car is really not meant for our tropical weather here. Everytime I leave the car under the hot sun for a long time, when I get back to my car and start it up, can here some minor creaks on the piano black inserts on the dashboard as well as the aluminium trim on the aircond vents. But once the cabin is cooled down, no more funny noises.
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Wow, 700 km is really economical. My 408T's full tank only carries me 400 km. Perhaps it's still new or cos it's in city drive or heavy footed or cos of the Shell 95. The 508 must be heavier than the 408.

I also wonder, does using dual climate increase the energy consumption?
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post Sep 25 2012, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Sep 25 2012, 10:23 PM)
Well, I think the 508 is lighter than 408. According to the manual, the 508 is 1415kg in weight. Not sure whether the climate control will help FC, but I always leave it on quad zone mode.

My typical route is from Ampang, go into MRR2 and spend like 30min-1hour on it stucked in jam. Then reach bukit jalil, i'll turn into MEX and drive for 15 mins to cyberjaya. Similar pattern in reverse order when going home.

Btw, my car has a 70L tank. When the low fuel indicator lights up, there's still 10L left in the tank. So that's 60L for 700km.
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That route is more city than highway. I applaud your excellent fuel economy. The 408 had a 60L tank with 7L reserve when the empty warning indicator lights up.

You're right that the 508 is lighter. Just found from the manual that the kerb weight of 408T is 1459 kg.
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post Sep 25 2012, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(jfcheong @ Sep 15 2012, 09:56 AM)
1825kg??
Is this the weight?
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Now we know the answer to this puzzle... those are the gross weights on the front and rear axles. 1825 kg is the total gross weight of the 408 2.0, the kerb weight is 1403 kg.

Still a heavy car.


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post Sep 26 2012, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 26 2012, 08:50 AM)
408T is 1459 while the 408 2.0L is 1403kg?
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Yup, apparently so. Possibly more equipment?
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post Sep 26 2012, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 26 2012, 08:56 AM)
Well ive managed to get 780km on 80L of Shell95. That was at 80% highway driving at around 170kmph. Havent tested 100% city. Never had a chance to try out other fuel since im on the Shellcard past 5 years.  cry.gif
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What car is that?

Btw, should the evidence act affect the way we post our driving speeds on forums? Hehe.
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post Sep 26 2012, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Sep 26 2012, 11:14 AM)
About higher FC on 408, could be due to gearbox programming. As some owners mention that it only shifts at specific rev point, this could definitely affect the FC. Funny since both cars use the exact same gearbox but displays different characteristics
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That brings us back to the issue that Rnans brought up in his "Unbiased opinion.." thread as quoted below. Has anyone received any feedback from the service centre regarding this issue yet?



QUOTE(rnans @ Aug 29 2012, 01:19 AM)

3)Non adaptive nature of the 6 speed gearbox whih only changes gears at predetermined speeds not according to load making a Euro Star 5 emission engine very thirsty , I am comparing to my 12 year old CLK 230 supercharged Mercedes 5 speed auto which changes gears according to load and gives better fuel economy than this 408 despite weighing 300 Kg more.... I say non adaptive because the 1st gear changes to 2nd always at the same speed which is when the central locking locks the car//  The gear change doesnt take advantage of the low end torque at all and if you choose sport mode its even more ridiculous, I will complain about this during my first service. All other gears change at predetermined speeds also, the most annoying is waiting for the gear to change to 4th which occurs at a ridiculous 2600 rpm when engine is warm, really annoying, usually end up swithing to tiptronic and changing manually

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post Sep 26 2012, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 26 2012, 12:12 PM)
Optima K5.
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Wow, quite good economy for a big car with such big wheels.


QUOTE(hawnauk @ Sep 26 2012, 12:41 PM)
Lately i accompany my fren test try some cars like VW's polo sedan, jetta, passat, Peugeot's 408T and Hyundai's Elantra.

My findings so far (for C segment cat): -

Jetta - nice car with TSI engine, not much fancy gadgets while focus more on build quality, expensive.
Elantra - more gadgets, big, futuristic body design, good price range but not so good in terms of ride and sound proofing.
408T - nice handling, amazed by its turbo engine + sport mode, spacious, up to date technology, competitive price. personally i think it's better if the rear part of the car could be more 'aggresive look'.

apparently, both of us fall in love with 408T  drool.gif

We din try honda & toyota, perhaps feel bored with those japs car already  biggrin.gif
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Loving it! +++

1. I agree the butt is rather bland. :-P Is there any way to spruce it up?
2. Actually, the price of Focus is about the same as 408T since it includes maintenance for 3 years.
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post Sep 26 2012, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(hawnauk @ Sep 26 2012, 02:15 PM)
but the 408T offered 5 years (unlimited mileage) warranty wor  icon_idea.gif

ppl tend to worry about the following when comes to conti car:-

1. resale value - at once the salesman told me "last time when i say the resale value is good you also won't believe la, coz very few pug on the road, now you see.. more & more pug already." hmm... true indeed  nod.gif

2. maintenance & availability of spare part - any comment? i think should'nt be any issue for spare part as we hv a plant in gurun

3. spare part pricing & fuel comsumption - any comment?
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The five-year warranty was one of the factors that helped assure me too. Well they are using that too keep us servicing at the authorised SC.

1. Resale value is expected to be lower already. When the day comes, I won't be bleeding in the heart cos I'm already prepared. Keep well-maintained.

2. Maintenance is standard with the SC. So far, my friends in this area have been happy with the service.

3. Dunno about share part price but share parts are expensive for all cars. No matter what the price :-P

3b. I would consider the fuel consumption high for its size.
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post Sep 26 2012, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Sep 26 2012, 07:16 PM)
For $126k 408t is the best buy. For the money,it's brings a lot to the table. The engine delivers pretty decent power and the car has high handling standards. The only competitor in this price is the Citroen C4,which  is the sold at the same price. This hatch back is a little smaller but very pretty! Has the same Prince THP engine (155hp) but mated with DGS gearbox. Quite an advanced gearbox, but has some problems,and I am not sure local SC can handle the issues.

 Booklyn M has to step up it's game if it wants to make a mark with Citroen in Malaysia. Customer support and properly trained service staff are so important for the survival of this make. In the past attempts have been rather feeble. DS5 is a sweet babe,certainly my choice in the D segment. Love the 2 litre turbo diesel!

Like you many have commented on the rather bare rear end of the 408. If you look at the new generation of Peugeot cars,that's the way they all are. The reason is,a simple back makes the Lion emblem a lot more prominent! 

There's roughly 30 of us here in this thread who are actual owners. We have discussed all the problems encountered. You will see there's really nothing serious. Go for this Lion,you'll not regret!
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+1

The design is ELEGANT rather than HIP.
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post Sep 26 2012, 11:15 PM

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Apparently they are the same 163 HP engine...

http://newscarreview.com/2012-citroen-ds4-...and-review.html
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post Sep 29 2012, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Sep 29 2012, 12:43 PM)
The yellow thing is for you to remove the chrome wheel nut cover. As for removing the wheel nut, there should be an adapter coz every wheel is secured with 1 security bolt. But the teeth on these bolts are prone to break. So its better to change to ordinary bolt.
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Sep 29 2012, 12:48 PM)
The yellow plastic item is an adaptor. All the wheel nuts have a cap. You have to remove this cap before undoing the wheel nut. Insert this yellow adaptor on to the wheel nut and pull,the cap comes out.

If you do not remove the nut cap and try to undo the wheel nut,the wheel nut will be damaged. If the wheel nuts are damaged,then you need workshop remedy!
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Thanks for the info!
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post Sep 29 2012, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(jfcheong @ Sep 29 2012, 07:56 PM)
Happy Moon Cake Festival to all the 408 lovers~~
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Happy mooncake festival!

Btw, I love your avatar photo.
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post Oct 2 2012, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(jessyeo @ Oct 2 2012, 07:49 PM)
yeah. ask for it. if not, re-booking again. saving few thousand is good enough for tinted, maintain car coating or change sport rim.  icon_rolleyes.gif

Btw, I thinking to change new sport rim. any idea about this?
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Head turner! Change rims AGAIN?
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post Oct 3 2012, 08:15 AM

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Haha. Same-same.
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post Oct 3 2012, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(hawnauk @ Oct 3 2012, 11:41 AM)
to those who are running 408T turbo engine, may i know what fuel r u using normally, ron95 or ron97?
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I'm using RON95.
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 3 2012, 12:41 PM)
Why would u bother using Ron97 for a car than can run on Ron95? A total waste.
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What petrol does K5 use?
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post Oct 4 2012, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Oct 4 2012, 07:47 PM)
Early Prince engine ( EP6-DT*) suffered from what's called 'super knock' problem. Main culprit was carbon buildup in cylinder/piston head area. Among many,one suggested solution was RON 97. Owners of these engines have reported better performance on RON97. It does not mean all versions of Prince will run better on RON97! RON97 will only provide better performance if the engine is tuned for that octane level.

Now for some facts, no guesses or feel good factors:
Various mods were carried on the Prince in 408, addressing reliability issues. This EP6CDTM is infact developed to run on RON91. There is no advantage in using RON 97 on this engine! It runs perfectly on RON95
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Now, thanks for providing an insight that's thread specific, ie. with regards to Prince engine.

Thanks for all the input from everyone :-)

I believe there was some justification in considering a higher octane petrol as the compression ratio of the engine is higher.

However, as there is no evidence to show that RON97 is better than RON95, I'll stick with evidence-based practice and continue to use RON95 for my 408.

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post Oct 5 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Oct 4 2012, 08:21 PM)
Ok, just found the link. Click here

Difference is quite negligible. Still difference nonetheless.
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Thanks for sharing this. At least it's evidence with n=1.

QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 4 2012, 08:33 PM)
Well once u take into account the accuracy ratings for the data logger, the results are negligible as many technical articles have proven.

So guys, i think we can give the matter a rest now. Its clear that using Ron 97 in a car designed for Ron 95 is a waste for the amount of money ure paying for it. So dont just keep the info to yourself, spread it around so that more ppl will learn the truth just as i have.

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K, thanks.. matter is rested (for me.)
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post Oct 6 2012, 09:53 PM

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I just noticed the rear of my 408 by night... I love the way the rear lights make parallel diagonals!

Ashamed to say that I didn't actually notice how the rear lights looked till now :-P
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post Oct 7 2012, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Oct 7 2012, 12:43 PM)
Bought my Lion from 4S @Jln Chan sow Lin and most likely will send it back there for service, where did you send yours?


Added on October 7, 2012, 12:52 pm
Good stuff ! Thanks! Great to know here exist a brotherhood of lion tamers. Getting Lion is a very bold step for me akin to taking the leap of faith. This forum has been part of the reason I make that choice!
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Leap of faith is true for me too. I don't anybody here decides to bring home a Lion the way that one might decide on a Toy-cat or Hon-dog. Heh.

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