then go it out this weekend. only the test drive will confirm whether or not the car is right for you.

chassis could be shared but suspension tuning could be very different. same for citroen and peugeot.

good answer!

guys any updates to this list?


2.0
1. kejusan
2.

Turbo
1.SKYjack - blue
2.

once you lock the doors, the car is immobilised meaning the car can no way be started as the ecu is on off mode (or something like that). the key also has a sort of rolling code which changes every time you arm it. actually it is a lot more complicated. i just summarised it. hope it helps. someone with a bit deeper knowledge can share how the peugeot immobiliser works.

yup. no sound at all.

Don't collect at night if possible. Daytime or early evening. You need to see if there are blemishes.

This post has been edited by lowpro: Jun 15 2012, 02:54 PM

what do you guys think of this write up? reflective of the 408?

http://paultan.org/2012/06/19/driven-peuge...bo-and-408-2-0/

If possible, use a portable unit. Garmin, Papago or anything. But do not modify the head unit to accommodate the GPS unit. You will affect the wiring. The car uses multiplex wiring which means one wire may carry a few functions. By modifying, the resistance will change and you could easily fry your circuits due to overloading of power. When this happens, your warranty is quite dead regardless of whether you have 3 or 5 years.

Do keep this in mind as Peugeot and many other European cars these days are multi plexed already.

i think there are some cars with the china unit running around. no reports on them frying the circuits in forums but there are some cases reported at service centres already of fried circuits due to unauthorised modifications to incorporate the gps/rear camera/dvd system. so, do be wary about the claims from the suppliers and do be careful with anything electronic added.

kenso has the latest costs. 308T6 and 408T6 have similar service costs while 408 2.0 (similar to 407) is slightly cheaper over a period of 100,000km or 5 years whichever comes first.

could be the new turbo engine that brings more confidence. the n/a engine has always been a reliable one all this while.

here's the list from a few pages back:


2.0
1. kejusan
2. Poyoguy - blue

Turbo
1.SKYjack - blue
2. sbd - blue
3. kevinboey -white
4. din5353 - black


so far 6 cars from here.

the top picture is ours. the bottom picture is south america's

but even so, once in a blue moon, there will be shift shock. just don't be alarmed and post 'my car has a big problem' everywhere. it is completely normal. my 207 is about 1 and half years already. it runs super smooth but once in a while there will be sudden shocks to the transmission. just don't panic. it is normal. also, your right foot should not drive it like a japanese car. since it is adaptive, the transmission reacts differently to sudden jabs at the throttle, to how fast you lift off, to how fast you step on it and how deep in you step or how fast you step on it and release (to change up). discover it as you drive and you will soon drive it very smoothly. remember one thing. it is NOT a japanese car and the gear characteristics are a total change from what you find in japanese and korean brands. it is adaptive and different degrees of input have different reactions from the transmission. just keep that in mind and you'll be fine.

in a japanese car it is simple... step on it, it drops one or two gears then accelerates. no brainer there. do this and you will get that sort of programming. in the peugeot, whether or not it downshifts depends on how fast you step on the accelerator. sometimes, faster steps on the accelerator does not guarantee a downshift. for me, i give it a quick step to about 3/4 throttle then lift off slightly to induce downshifts and if i want it to stay at low gear i modulate the accelerator and keep accelerating. in a japanese car, it will shift up once it reaches a certain speed or rpm. but you can prolong it in a peugeot in case u need to have an extra burst of acceleration while keeping it in lower gear. when the car has already downshifted and u need to slow down, lift off abruptly to keep it in low gear and then accelerate again to keep it running in low gear. lifting off gently will tell the car to shift to higher gear.

try it, everyone has their own styles with the transmission. the above is my style of playing with the al4 transmission. has worked on a 407 as well.

the car 'learns' your style... like a nicely trained puppy following the master's instructions. but you have to train it. also, since it is adaptive, it will take about 10 mins to learn your style. if you drive for power, the car will oblige with snappy downshifts and holding gears for a longer period. if your partner drives gently, the car will initially feel rough to her. but give it about 10 or 15 mins, then it will learn her style and when you drive it again, you need to drive it like you always do. initially it will be sluggish because your partner drove it gently but once it detects your driving pattern, it will readjust to your style as it already has the maps for you by then.

it is kinda hard to explain everything here. you just need to try it. BUT, it will still snap back at you with violent jerks once in a blue moon. it is called a shift shock. nothing to be alarmed at. perfectly normal for peugeot transmissions.

as for the first 1,000km, just follow what your owners manual tells you. please don't miss your 2,500km inspection (nothing is changed. just a technical check up and for you to feedback to the mechanics if you have any concerns) or you will have issues with warranty claims later on. as the service centres are always busy, make your service appointments at least 1,000km away.

This post has been edited by lowpro: Jun 27 2012, 11:05 PM

by the way, do you guys have any issue with the child proof lock needing to be activated the traditional, manual way instead of like the 308 where it is electronically actuated via a switch on the driver side arm rest?

the 408 (both T and 2.0) don't have the auto child proof lock feature like the 308T. i just checked. the child proof lock is totally manual a bit olskool lah here. but at least it still has child proof looks on the rear doors.

guys, for those of you who just received your car, the service schedule is very important and will affect your warranty if u r not careful. here are some tips for you.

here's how peugeot calculates your next service. let's say you did it early at maybe 19,100km for the 20,000km service. your next service is not at 30,000km (as we malaysians normally think) but it is calculated at 10,000km (service interval) from 19,100km (your last service). therefore you must service your car at 29,100km. peugeot gives you a 500km allowance so the latest you can service your car is 29,600km and not 30,000km. the grace period is either 2 weeks (this am not 100% sure) or 500km (this i am 100% sure).

so, if you can't get the service centre of your choice, better make plans for another. do try the seremban centre. they do a pretty quick job (no, you cannot bring your own oil - it will also void your warranty if found out). it is very close if you live in south KL/selangor. get there via lekas and you can go for a high speed run (without almost anyone noticing).

another tip is this; do plan your servicing. just as it reaches 1,000km (should equate to maybe 2 - 2.5 weeks driving?) to the next service, make your appointment. this will ensure that they have space for you.

hope it helps as many have had warranty problems just because of this small matter.

last bit, the 2,500km inspection (nothing is changed here, oils and parts remain), do not treat this lightly. you must go and get your car inspected and likewise, the grace period is 500km.

This post has been edited by lowpro: Jul 2 2012, 09:11 AM

the 2,500km is not considered a service but an inspection. so, the 1st service is calculated from the date your car is registered and also on the mileage on your odometer. hope it clears the air. do note that the 1st service is at 6 months or 10,000km whichever comes first.