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TSkatijar
post May 11 2012, 02:01 PM, updated 14y ago

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i have this wireless drill/screw driver ... drill

and thinking of getting this ... drill bit but don't know where to get...

to drill es'tile porcelain tiles in kitchen wall...

what do you think?
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post May 11 2012, 02:14 PM

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i am pretty sure u cant drill tiles using that drill. U need a drill with power souce . Or else its not strong enough.
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post May 11 2012, 02:18 PM

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but the guide states can drill metal ...
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post May 11 2012, 02:20 PM

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first get a punch tool...

then any mason drill bit is fine..


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post May 11 2012, 02:22 PM

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katijar, both item can get at local hardware shop that carries bosch power tool. that is the correct bit for tiles. 6mm is around rm16 and 8mm is around rm18 if i am not mistaken. its better to get corded drill instead of the cordless one. after you drill the tiles you need to change to masonry drill to continue drilling in. do not used the tiles bit, very fast will kaput.
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post May 11 2012, 02:23 PM

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i have drilled lots of tiles in bathroom to fix handle bars..

no issue, just mark or punch tile (so drill bit wont slip_

then use regular normal concrete bit...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_(tool)

Central

File:Punch (central).jpg
A center punch
A central punch is used to mark the center of a point. It is usually used to mark the center of a hole when drilling holes. A drill bit has the tendency to "wander" if it does not start in a recess. A center punch forms a large enough dimple to "guide" the tip of the drill bit.[1] When drilling larger holes, and the web of the drill is wider than the indentation produced by a center punch, the drilling of a pilot hole is usually needed.
An automatic center punch operates without the need for a hammer.

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post May 11 2012, 02:25 PM

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i've drilled tile using wireless drill but u hav to use little bit extra force to drill it...i didnt use that drill bit, i just use drill bit that meant to drill through concrete
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post May 11 2012, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(ravi6662 @ May 11 2012, 02:23 PM)
i have drilled lots of tiles in bathroom to fix handle bars..

no issue, just mark or punch tile (so drill bit wont slip_

then use regular normal concrete bit...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_(tool)

Central

File:Punch (central).jpg
A center punch
A central punch is used to mark the center of a point. It is usually used to mark the center of a hole when drilling holes. A drill bit has the tendency to "wander" if it does not start in a recess. A center punch forms a large enough dimple to "guide" the tip of the drill bit.[1] When drilling larger holes, and the web of the drill is wider than the indentation produced by a center punch, the drilling of a pilot hole is usually needed.
An automatic center punch operates without the need for a hammer.
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how to use the punch? hammer it?


Added on May 11, 2012, 2:29 pm
QUOTE(wut2du @ May 11 2012, 02:25 PM)
i've drilled tile using wireless drill but u hav to use little bit extra force to drill it...i didnt use that drill bit, i just use drill bit that meant to drill through concrete
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tiles on the wall?

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QUOTE(katijar @ May 11 2012, 02:28 PM)
how to use the punch? hammer it?


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tiles on the wall?
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post May 11 2012, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ May 11 2012, 02:22 PM)
katijar, both item can get at local hardware shop that carries bosch power tool. that is the correct bit for tiles. 6mm is around rm16 and 8mm is around rm18 if i am not mistaken. its better to get corded drill instead of the cordless one. after you drill the tiles you need to change to masonry drill to continue drilling in. do not used the tiles bit, very fast will kaput.
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thanks, i already has the cordless drill... if i have to get a new one i will just pay someone to do it...


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QUOTE(wut2du @ May 11 2012, 02:29 PM)
yes
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drill slowly? tiles no crack?

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post May 11 2012, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(katijar @ May 11 2012, 02:30 PM)
thanks, i already has the cordless drill... if i have to get a new one i will just pay someone to do it...


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drill slowly? tiles no crack?
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if u use wireless drill u have make a little chip by hammering screw on the tile just a small "titik" as the tile will be slippery if u dont do this....then u have to use the full power of the drill with extra force pushing through the tile...i've also used wired drill to drill through tile n it is easier...
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post May 11 2012, 02:40 PM

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Use masking tape will do also. If you don't have puncher.
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post May 11 2012, 02:44 PM

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hi, are u all the "pro" or normal DIY people?
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post May 11 2012, 02:49 PM

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normal diy
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post May 11 2012, 02:55 PM

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ok... thanks for the replies.
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post May 11 2012, 05:40 PM

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TS mention porcelain tiles not ceramic tiles, the bosch wireless driil may be can drill 2 holes before the battery flat or the amature burn tongue.gif

don't use rotary hammer drill / masony drill as u don't want your wall tiles become hollow.... my 1x2 porcelain tiles above basin counter all hollow now because the basin counter guy hantam with masony drill cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(skng03 @ May 11 2012, 05:40 PM)
TS mention porcelain tiles not ceramic tiles, the bosch wireless driil may be can drill 2 holes before the battery flat or the amature burn tongue.gif

don't use rotary hammer drill / masony drill as u don't want your wall tiles become hollow.... my 1x2 porcelain tiles above basin counter all hollow now because the basin counter guy hantam with masony drill  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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How would a rotary hammer drill cause your tiles to become hollow?
That would be more of a tiler problem, your tiles did not become hollow they merely did not grab onto the surface you are trying to stick it on with enough grip. If you pull out the tile you can actually see cement sticking onto the back of your tile but did not stick onto the surface it is supposed to stick on. Normally when tilers try to tile a slippery/smooth surface they apply a later of coating before they paste tiles on with cement.

To the OP you can definitely drill holes on tiles with a cordless drill because I just did it last week, but like skng said drilled like 2 holes full battery already finish. You can use plugged in rotary hammer drill too but have to start slowly slowly then only increase speed. If you straight away go max power and drill of course your tiles would become ruined before you manage to drill a hole, hope this helps! thumbup.gif
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post May 11 2012, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(skng03 @ May 11 2012, 05:40 PM)
TS mention porcelain tiles not ceramic tiles, the bosch wireless driil may be can drill 2 holes before the battery flat or the amature burn tongue.gif

don't use rotary hammer drill / masony drill as u don't want your wall tiles become hollow.... my 1x2 porcelain tiles above basin counter all hollow now because the basin counter guy hantam with masony drill  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Your tiller did not put enough cement. Some area do bound to have some hollow, knock on the tiles, of no hollow sound than is ok
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post May 11 2012, 10:45 PM

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1. never use hammer mode if your drill support it...
2. drill slow... and consistant with some pressure pressing...
3. stop after a few minutes..
4. yes it takes time to drill...
5. fast /press to hard = cracked tiles
6. after drill through the tile change to normal bit to drill through the concrete behind the tile can use hammer mode..

wan drill fast get a diamond bit that is designed to drill through tiles/ceramic/porcelin and all that stuff
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QUOTE(weikee @ May 11 2012, 09:12 PM)
Your tiller did not put enough cement. Some area do bound to have some hollow, knock on the tiles, of no hollow sound than is ok
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No only cement but tile adheisive +cement + susu....before laying tiles,apply thin layer of susu+tile adheisove, lay tile use opc +tiles adheisive+ susu as manufactural recommandation :nod

Porcelin tiles look nice but really give me problem.....out of my 10 project, 9 having this problem after worker drill tiles to install fitting:(

QUOTE(JinXXX @ May 11 2012, 10:45 PM)
1. never use hammer mode if your drill support it...
2. drill slow... and consistant with some pressure pressing...
3. stop after a few minutes..
4. yes it takes time to drill...
5. fast /press to hard = cracked tiles
6. after drill through the tile change to normal bit to drill through the concrete behind the tile can use hammer mode..

wan drill fast get a diamond bit that is designed to drill through tiles/ceramic/porcelin and all that stuff
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This is the correct way to drill tiles

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ May 11 2012, 10:45 PM)
1. never use hammer mode if your drill support it...
2. drill slow... and consistant with some pressure pressing...
3. stop after a few minutes..
4. yes it takes time to drill...
5. fast /press to hard = cracked tiles
6. after drill through the tile change to normal bit to drill through the concrete behind the tile can use hammer mode..

wan drill fast get a diamond bit that is designed to drill through tiles/ceramic/porcelin and all that stuff
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post May 17 2012, 11:37 AM

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20- 30 mins to drill a hole ... fast or slow? I used Bosch drill and drill bit as stated in the first post... *sweat*
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post May 17 2012, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(katijar @ May 17 2012, 11:37 AM)
20- 30 mins to drill a hole ... fast or slow? I used Bosch drill and drill bit as stated in the first post... *sweat*
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too slow...maybe not yet pro... biggrin.gif
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post May 17 2012, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(tomjason @ May 17 2012, 11:44 AM)
too slow...maybe not yet pro... biggrin.gif
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ya... that was the first hole i drilled. biggrin.gif
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use masking taps to secure the area of drilling; from further impact cracks
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post May 17 2012, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(katijar @ May 17 2012, 11:37 AM)
20- 30 mins to drill a hole ... fast or slow? I used Bosch drill and drill bit as stated in the first post... *sweat*
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abit slow...

for me 1 hole about 3 to 5 mins...

most important thing is dont let the bit head overheat...

i've notice one thing sds type drill bits seem to be more higher quality than the normal one smile.gif

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ May 17 2012, 11:16 PM)
abit slow...

for me 1 hole about 3 to 5 mins...

most important thing is dont let the bit head overheat...

i've notice one thing sds type drill bits seem to be more higher quality than the normal one smile.gif
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what is sds type drill bit?

walao! i accidentally touched the drill bit! super hot man! sad.gif
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QUOTE(katijar @ May 18 2012, 09:12 AM)
what is sds type drill bit?

walao! i accidentally touched the drill bit! super hot man! sad.gif
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sds type drill bit are those normally used on higher end more expensive rotary hammer drills..

/facepalm/ no study physics meh... two different surface touch touch/rub rub = hot... smile.gif ohmy.gif

 

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