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post May 12 2012, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(Rubz77 @ May 12 2012, 11:21 PM)
sweat.gif  Common problem or an isolated case ?
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a few of them kena already....forte's facebook.
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post May 14 2012, 02:25 PM

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Dear Mr,

After a few emails and your video from the YouTube been forwarded to the MMC & Proton R&D, below are the replied that I receive.

1.      It was a normal condition if any low decibel (dB) noise came from the rubber bush when the ambiance/weather condition in cold condition. This because all the rubber bush at a rest condition especially after overnight parking. 
2.      Most are the rubber bush was carried over from the MMC parts which is no modification has been done as the car was been rebadged to Proton. Mostly those materials been developed to suits with their export country.
As of our case our climate mainly in hot condition and that’s why there are some lack in cold condition.
3.      And if we granted your request, to replace all of the rear components, you will have a chance of having the same noise once it has been install the new one. And yet, you will complaint it once again. Furthermore, once you remove the whole component chances if having secondary defect became very high once you install the new one.

As a conclusion from your statement, I would say it’s a normal condition based on the comment from the MMC. No replacement part/component will be granted. Noise won’t effect to the performance of the car and  drive ability. The noise we accept as a mechanical operational noise that not effected to the performance of the car but irritable to customer’s driving pleasure.


this is pure bs man.

operational noise...lol
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ May 14 2012, 02:32 PM)
Is the other car, or even the fake Inspira, have this sound?
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nope, only mine.

QUOTE(miuk @ May 14 2012, 02:33 PM)
Woah after all the hardwork they've done on your car, they are giving up?
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They are trying to blame it on weather.

QUOTE(turbocharged @ May 14 2012, 02:41 PM)
The noise we accept as a mechanical operational noise that not effected to the performance of the car but irritable to customer’s driving pleasure.

wa, this is epic, its another way of saying, "its normal" lol.
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That is why this is my last proton

QUOTE(selinix @ May 14 2012, 02:49 PM)
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Get a lawyer and sue them..
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i am giving them an ultimatum, all i need is for them to confirm that they are not following up with my case, and i'll go to the papers.


Added on May 14, 2012, 6:58 pm
QUOTE(ngjx @ May 14 2012, 02:51 PM)
Ask them y yours 1 so loud if compared to others?
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Good question, i just asked them

QUOTE(aminmh @ May 14 2012, 03:10 PM)
chiest. waa got angry laa like this..
just a test ..
yeah, this is my last proton. got defect nvm, just this 'biasa' attitude


Added on May 14, 2012, 7:01 pm
QUOTE

Dear Mr XXX,

After a few emails and your video from the YouTube been forwarded to the MMC & Proton R&D, below are the replied that I receive.

1.      It was a normal condition if any low decibel (dB) noise came from the rubber bush when the ambiance/weather condition in cold condition. This because all the rubber bush at a rest condition especially after overnight parking. 
2.      Most are the rubber bush was carried over from the MMC parts which is no modification has been done as the car was been rebadged to Proton. Mostly those materials been developed to suits with their export country.
As of our case our climate mainly in hot condition and that’s why there are some lack in cold condition.
3.      And if we granted your request, to replace all of the rear components, you will have a chance of having the same noise once it has been install the new one. And yet, you will complaint it once again. Furthermore, once you remove the whole component chances if having secondary defect became very high once you install the new one.

As a conclusion from your statement, I would say it’s a normal condition based on the comment from the MMC. No replacement part/component will be granted. Noise won’t effect to the performance of the car and  drive ability. The noise we accept as a mechanical operational noise that not effected to the performance of the car but irritable to customer’s driving pleasure.

TQ

Indra Shahril Adzmy
Executive, Market Technical Support

PROTON HOLDINGS BERHAD
Ground Floor, PROTON Centre of Excellence Complex,
KM33.8 Westbound Shah Alam Expressway
47600 Subang Jaya, Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia.

T: +603 8026 9737  |  F: +603 8026 9522
This is my reply to them

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Greetings,

If Proton wants to say that this is operational noise,

Please ask them to explain this:

1) Why persists for a few weeks, continuously even when the car is driven for a long time?
2) Why only rear left?
3) Why other inspiras dont have this issue?
4) Please ask Mr Abdullah and Mr Nik if it was snowing or sunny during the test drive with them.
5) Please ask Mr Shahril if he forgotten what the mechanic at EON KB told him regarding the serverity of my car's noise
6) Proton acknowledge the noise, which can irritate the owner, but declined to fix it?
7) It is not of low decibels, as it can be clearly heard, louder than that of the engine noise.

Please explain this. If Proton does not want to follow up with this, Please inform me.

Thank you.




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QUOTE(Eiraku @ May 14 2012, 07:27 PM)
If they DON'T follow up, then we're essentially buying "AP Set Warranty" cars lor, which is sad even for the money we saved. And MMC is really not giving a fucuk either sigh.

Go to the papers, heck, you can go to Consumer Tribunal asso and get back enough (I think RM15-20k max) to afford yourself full Titans all around (you can tune it to comfort no problem) so that hopefully no more sound.

Don't forget to CC DRB Hicom asso - hopefully they shake up Proton enough to stop the "tidak apa-ing".  Or at least get YOU a better deal.

Unfortunately though, there are A LOT of car manufacturers (especially here in M'sia) that will resort to "defect is within operational limits" (aka, denial of responsibility) when they encounter problems they couldn't solve - or resort to making up sheet to void your warranty.

Sigh. Reminds me of Toyota Juru telling me to pay RM30k to ship up my car and cargo ship it back to Indon/Japan when my Avanza gearbox broke and they couldn't do anything about it - keeping in mind that the first gen, Indon CKD Avanza was below 50k OTR. Why 30k, "gearbox damage is normal wear and tear" they said. "Not covered" they said.

Watafuk? 30k is more then half the price of the fucuking car!

I had to drive a car with a broken gearbox all the way from Kulim back to Toyota Shah Alam (trust me, it was nerve-wrecking), who solved the problem for about RM3k. Just lol.

Or fucuking Ecotint with the, "oh the bubbles on the demister are normal for Inspiras, not our fault so cannot claim and we can't do anything" - when I've PERSONALLY seen a LARGE NUMBER of FUCUKING Inspiras with much LESS SEVERE bubbling on their demisters.

The Malaysian service industry is on crack. Really.
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Right now, i'll see what proton says. if they want to let go, then i'll go straight to papers.

The problem is, DRB hicom doesnt have any customer care line. hmm.gif


Added on May 14, 2012, 7:53 pm
QUOTE(selinix @ May 14 2012, 07:50 PM)
Reminded me of how MMM pushed the responsibility back to the owner for driving the CVT in manual mode too often and cause it to breakdown...
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At least they replaced his CVT for free after that..

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ May 14 2012, 07:57 PM)
Email every CEO, COO and related Execs you can find. MMC, DRB AND Potong. Then the papers.

Legal action doesn't work much in Malaysia, too much fucuking money involved. Unless you're willing to play dirty too and can afford it lah (ot unless you have a GREAT lawyer).
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i'll try to avoid legal, i'll wait and see what proton and eon says.

anyhow, it sucks that it has to be like this. Great car, dumbass company
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QUOTE(Rubz77 @ May 14 2012, 09:38 PM)
Wow...the tone of Proton's letter is not right.

Bro, pls keep their reply and when you do go to the papers, show their reply. Give them a timeline to respond and if they don't, go all out to the papers.
It's ridiculous to call it operational noise.
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yaya..im keeping it, kept everything from the start
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QUOTE(JackNg1985 @ May 15 2012, 03:43 PM)
Hopefully he is not in the Group of kena recall.

Woi Turboja, jomm play CS. we 1on1 sniper. see can head shot kao you booo
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preve kena recall meh? why?
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ May 15 2012, 04:42 PM)
no la, they only have these

2) Sluggish during RPM below 2k (really annoying during traffic light fuuuuu)
3) Wind noise at C pillar
4) Weird sound during acceleration ("voooo vooooo" sound something like that)
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oh..anyway, after i hentam eon yday, they called me and tell me to be patient, as they are working with vendors and bla bla bla and they are still following this case. whatever lah, last proton for me
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ May 16 2012, 03:32 PM)
GUYSSS!!!

the news is true!!!

but not metoo punya 2.0mt .. have to go www.waitlonglong.com.my

latest news ... from me .. tongue.gif

NEW model replacing 2.0 P .. dunno what they call yet.. its a highline ..
first think i saw .. it comes with a build in GPS unit ..

a new color as well .. DARK GREY
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comes with leveling and foldable side mirror?
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QUOTE(david_ngcw @ May 16 2012, 03:34 PM)
fucuk protong... mad.gif  mad.gif
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haiya...normal la..2 years already, time for facelift
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ May 16 2012, 03:36 PM)
folding mirror ah >? let me check the part same or not first...

confirm it is call 2.0P ...

coz got the part ... mark "2.0P" lolz
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cuz that is what the proton ppl told me, the 2.0P will get the gps things, and manual headlight leveling and autolock and folding side mirror is for the 'facelift' version

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ May 16 2012, 04:31 PM)
basically same like current 2.0P ...

WITH SLIM TIRE ..
WITH GPS ..
WITH NEW RIM DESIGN
NEW BUMP STOP (BASICALLY THE ONE WE GO REPLACE)

STILL NO FOLDING MIRROR

and something funny ... new STURT MODULE>... possible to due CKK complaint ???? i dunno .. cannot see detail on that part
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oic..weird.. new strut module? have part number?

regarding the silencer, most prob add more sound deadener, so that better then preve i guess
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ May 16 2012, 04:39 PM)
i see new windscreen code.... possible 2.0 with thunder cat d ??
good news for those worrying 3k windscreen
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wah..good good, i want cheap windscreen..always worry about mitsu 1. tongue.gif

strut module...hmm, weird sweat.gif
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ May 16 2012, 05:18 PM)
Ckk I got part no. But not good to disclose it so detail. Possible they localize part no also change geh.
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oic...yea..maybe localise the strut mounting and things like that
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QUOTE(JXplod @ May 17 2012, 10:34 AM)
i notice 4.L is enough leh.. hw come like tht ? where is 0.3 gone into .. since our engin need 4.3L including the oil filter part..

but last service i pour in 4L ,  n show at the oil dip stick is enough
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Cuz you can never drain all 4.3l from the drain plug..
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ May 17 2012, 02:08 PM)
they are salted fish tongue.gif
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They have airbrakes, u have meh?
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ May 17 2012, 02:18 PM)
Honestly .. They really kind of salted fish.. Only talk detail in TT. Lolz... The turn turtle preve donno isit belongs to batman ... Kena chase by bank tow truck .. Speeding .. Lost control .. Dunno how to operate the vehicle stability thing .. End up turtling
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They are dumb la..now assume inspira owner touch the late lancer, causing it to skid.

Assuming is stupid, and in the lancer forum, no inspira was even mentioned.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ May 17 2012, 02:22 PM)
Porsche have airbrakes asso wat lol.

Touche that after batmang go all crazy pasting crashed Rara pics, a Preve turtled. We got daulat wan wor, kenot simply zhar.

@Ckk: The "kawan mangsa" blog was more forthcoming about that little tidbit. Bus at fault in that version. Inspira just there for the ride, even tried to catch the bus too - who fucuking ran anyway.

Funny nobody latched on to THAT. Just not as SENSATIONAL as "LANCER DESTROYED BY CRAZY SPEEDING INSPIRA OWNER" I guess.

What's lansizone's version like Ckk?
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saya ada post pada wall FB saya pasal kehilangan sahabat kita kimi ni, tup2 sahabat lama saya call kerana tak sangka, kemalangan di pahang yg dihat depan matanya merupakan sahabat saya juga,

begini kisahnya....kejadian berlaku di hiway LPT dari Jaboh le Kuantan...jalan 2 lane, dikiri ada bas express BLC 4555 warna hijau, dan kanan ada kereta arwah, manakala sahabat saya tu berada di belakang kereta arwah, difahamkan pada masa itu, sahabat saya mmg datang belakang pada kelajuan 200kmh sambil memberi signal kanan isyarat utk org lain membuka ruang.pada kelajuan itu, sahabat saya dapati, arwah tidak memberi laluan, maka sahabat saya memperlahan kan kenderaan, tiba2 bas tersebut menukar arah dari kiri ke kanan, kereta kimi tidak membrek, lalu menghimpit masuk laluan kecil di lane kanan dan mengakibatkan tayar kanan masuk rumput, pada ketika itu kereta arwah jadi tak stabil, arwah membalas stering ke kiri, lalu kereta menghantam devider kiri, kemudian terus ke devider kanan lalu melompat ke lane sebelah, mmg sahbat saya nampak kereta kimi diudara ke lane bertentangan...sahabat saya terketar melihat kejadian itu terus mengejar bas tersebut sambil membunyikan hon, mcm biasa, bus tersebut buat tak endah sahaja. kawan saya smpi sekarang menggeletar lutut tgk kejadian tu dan selamat sampai kerumah nya di shah alam.


This is from lancerzone guys. lets not make this lancer vs inspira isssue, as it never was to start with. but previa people assume rubbish.

Salted brains
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ May 17 2012, 04:22 PM)
woi .... ckk .. enuf d .. dun becoz 1 stupid fella condem all preve owner la... we PEACE One okay .... psst .. i only condem those wear undies outside (batman to be precise) and no money pay credit card .. yet wanna talk kok type ...  whistling.gif
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