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huha
post May 7 2012, 09:35 PM

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Harini saya pergi KL atas urusan kerja. Dalam perjalanan ke Kuala Lumpur, lebih kurang dalam pukul 8.45 pagi macam tu saya singgah di R&R Sg Buluh dan ternampak Preve' silver no plate AHW 9058. CFE sbb ada spoiler kecil. Siapa punya ye?

again dalam perjalanan pulang ke Kedah melalui lebuhraya PLUS lebih kurang hampir jam 4 ptg ternampak 6 trailer membawa kereta2 Proton ke showroom. Dengan 3 daripadanya hanya semata2 kereta Preve manakala 2 lagi bercampur Preve dan Persona dan 1 lagi membawa muatan Persona sahaja. Menghala ke Kuala Lumpur (arah bertentangan ngan saya) dari tanjung malim rasanya.

So geram punya pasal sebab nampak banyak sangat trailer dengan muatan Preve', maka saya pun hubungilah EON hotline. so saya pun marah2 orang tu selepas bg saya punya no aduan. "dah call 2 kali tapi belum ada jawapan pada soalan saya. janji nak call semula tapi saya tunggu hg skrg belum2 call saya. kemudian saya cakap lagi. saya tempah hari 1st kereta tu dibuka utk jualan, kenapa hg skrg belum dapat kereta walhal dah banyak saya nampak dan tahu kereta yg dah ada atas jalan. bla bla. last dia kata ok cik kami akan buat semakan dan akan hubungi encik sekejap lagi"

tak lama pastu ada no misteri bermula 03-...... call saya. so saya pun angkat "saya dari EON HQ. saya dah buat semakan. dalam sistem kami, encik orang no 3 yang buat tempahan ngan kami. pastu saya tanya la no 3 bg 1 malaysia ke? kemudian dia kata ya."



p/s: dalam rekod EON masuk gak antara yg terawal. bg EON lah. no 3 yg buat tempahan PREVE' dlm malaysia. tp kenapa betul2 lewat penghantaran. EON memang hny akan mula edar selepas Proton Edar ke? habis kenapa pernah baca dlm forum ni ada kawan kita dari EON N9 dah dpt kereta

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post May 8 2012, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(AmyDazz @ May 7 2012, 08:30 AM)
Guys check it out. Proton Preve with R3 Bodykit. What do you guys think?
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Taken from Autostylista FB (https://www.facebook.com/groups/autostylista/) . Kudos to Arfiz Arfidien for designing it.


Added on May 7, 2012, 8:37 amFuture possible mods (bodykit + rims) for Preve.
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Also taken from Autostylista FB (https://www.facebook.com/groups/autostylista/).
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I vote for the bottom one. fuhh.


Added on May 8, 2012, 8:18 am
QUOTE(bornd @ May 7 2012, 09:34 PM)
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if u can claim fuel, services, toll, parking from ur company so i think ok la. RM 2500 exclude or include allowance?
and you must remember the new method is not 1/3 from basic salary anymore but 1/3 from your nett salary (after deduct all ur debt, EPF, socso etc). if you still have a balance over 2/3 from your nett income. so i thk bank easily approve your loan. me also full loan. Bank Islam. 3.1% interest. but abit high compare 90% loan other bank. and fast approval also.

But i think cost of living in KL super high. RM 2500 in KL = RM 1500 in Kedah = RM 1300 kelantan in term of cost of living

the good about full loan is you can use d/payment money to invest at ASB/ Public Mutual/ Gold or something like that. bcoz with or without 10% dpayment, the amount just only around RM 100 +-. better invest to get higher return bcoz for me interest rate for hire purchase car consider lower compare dividen i'll get from my investment.

tapi masalahnya bila ada duit sebab tak bayar dpayment so gatal la tangan nak guna modified kereta. usha sport rim, tunggu bodykit plus2

p/s: mesti bos ada janji nak naik gaji kot. tu berani tu.


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Fuel, Toll = no, unless it's on customer site.
Parking = Company already cover

It's not included allowance brows.gif 2.5k is my nett salary, you may calculate my gross salary if you want tongue.gif

If it's 1/3 of 2.5k, it's about 800.

What I'm worried is more to maintenance/fuel cost.

p/s: baru naik gaji after working for 5 month icon_idea.gif Bos xjanji pape, but you if it's MNC, agak yakin la company stable and get a freq increment. tongue.gif
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i think it should be ok la bcoz 2.5 k not include allowance and its ur net salary. Plus you single right and stay with ur family. no need to rent house etc. If do overtime, maybe itself can cover your monthly installment i thk. Plus avarage MSC will increase their employee salary every year and less than year if you perform very well. So i thk from my understanding, insyaallah you can pay monthly installment. if you very confident i think its a worth buy. for me better get car you will use for long time (7 years above) rather than you get lowest spec car and think to change a totally new car next 3-5 years.

my advice until coming 3 month, try save every month not less than RM 1, 550/ month (RM 900 monthly installment (bayar lebih ma) + RM 200 for repair + RM 300 for toll and fuel + RM 150 for roadtax, insurance etc). if you can do that so i think Preve' CFE is a right choice for you.



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post May 8 2012, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ May 7 2012, 09:37 PM)
i put this down as a rumor if you dont mind... coz i need more then just one SA say. SA cannot be trusted one tongue.gif


Added on May 7, 2012, 9:40 pm
wait wait.. the story like nt finish. after the say ur #3 then wat happen?


Added on May 7, 2012, 9:41 pm
coz u say kopak here n there n calar2... if not showroom unit then must be kena mishandled kao2 lah...


Added on May 7, 2012, 9:42 pm
this rumor come from where pulak?
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so he say if (if, if, if) car deliver tomorrow (today), so by wednesday i'll get my car but can't take home la. my car will available at EON Taman Sejati Sg Petani showroom. about when can take out my car, i'll get only after they deliver to showroom and MY settle all registration no, insurance etc. so based on my calculation, if they deliver today, so i'll only get my car by Friday. or maybe next week. hope la can get car by Friday this week and free from factory defect, leg issue, welding etc.


Added on May 8, 2012, 8:28 am
QUOTE(zephyr_1112 @ May 7 2012, 09:47 PM)
IINM, d booking system is connected to all M'sia, whether u book thru EON or PE should be d same...
how come no 3 in M'sia booker still not get a car, but others already get... rclxub.gif  mad.gif
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so its the reason i sound kaw2. sangat tak puas hati. fuh. if he in front me..... vmad.gif


Added on May 8, 2012, 8:30 am
QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ May 7 2012, 09:47 PM)
More & more proof of how the distribution of the car by Proton sux...  mad.gif  Damn
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if i can access the system. very bad la the system. i think i care very helpfull compare to EON careline. EON careline lepas i marah kali ke3 baru dia call hubungi i

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post May 8 2012, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(K2002 @ May 7 2012, 09:48 PM)
hmmm..number 3 in whole malaysia ...i doubt it cause first few people that book during power of 1 event already get the car during the launch event.
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bang. nak tunjuk resit tak. i order 14 march 2012. tarikh pun ada dalam i punya resit. sayang tak ada jam je kul berapa i buat tempahan. tapi aroud 12 tgahari - 2 petang. i pun dah tak ingat. yup during power of 1 event la. sebab tu i bengang tahap hyper. solid white CFE. lagi bengang bila my SA buat diam. tak reti nak bagi penjelasan. tunggu i marah baru cari alasan. alasan bodoh pulak tu. ada ke kata dalam sistem belum ada kereta regesiter. pas tu i hantar no plate kereta kawan kita tergamam dia.


Added on May 8, 2012, 8:36 am
QUOTE(kungkai24 @ May 7 2012, 10:03 PM)
bcoz huha not tan sri son... hahahaha...dats y la kereta xdapat lg... they dun care whethr u no3 in malaysia if u not tan sri son u hv to wait...
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thank you coz believe me. ok by night, insyaallah i'll upload my voucher for who dont truse me. if i forgot, please remind me ok

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post May 8 2012, 08:57 PM

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for whom not believe me


yang saya tempah Preve' 14 march 2012. ini buktinya. maaf nama saya perlu disembunyikan. masih tak percaya saya boleh email secara peribadi

p/s: sebelum ni ada orang cakap saya menipu (selepas EON careline beritahu dalam sistem diaorang saya org ke 3 buat tempahan PREVE' bg seluruh Malaysia). katanya (orang yg tak percaya tu) orang lain yang book sebelum pelancaran semua dah dapat kereta.

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post May 8 2012, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(K2002 @ May 7 2012, 09:48 PM)
hmmm..number 3 in whole malaysia ...i doubt it cause first few people that book during power of 1 event already get the car during the launch event.
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post May 8 2012, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(Kon8225 @ May 7 2012, 10:47 PM)
Not really sure why many ppl didnt get their car..
I remember proton announce they get 1k booking during their event at bukit jalil (not remember).
But, I book 1 week before launch and received 1 week later..
my chassis is 9XX..
mayby my luck..hehe tongue.gif
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Added on May 8, 2012, 9:13 pm
QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ May 7 2012, 10:49 PM)
because got alot of silver n blue stock. if i booked this 2 color, the 1st week i can get already.
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if they have a lot of blue and silver colour, so as customer they should tell that they want produce blue lagoon colour 1st, follow by Silver bla bal bla. and give the due date. if cant deliver on time, please inform your customer and explain why. but always keep silent. sapa tak angin tambah2 orang lain yang dah order lagi lewat dapat dulu. bila call msg kerja menipu jer. mad.gif vmad.gif


Added on May 8, 2012, 9:15 pm
QUOTE(dares @ May 7 2012, 10:51 PM)
Today at connaught highway, I was cruising on the right lane.......at around 80-90km/h.

Suddenly, I see a white car moving from the middle lane to my rear. I glance in my rear view mirror and my heart skipped a beat. I could only see the top of the grill and the lamps as it was tailgating quite near. Could this be it? Am I being cucuk by a white Preve????!!! I quickly move to the middle lane, held my breath as I prepare to take in the beauty of a real life white Preve........................
Tew, it was a Fortetek  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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hahaha. fortetek

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post May 8 2012, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ May 7 2012, 11:02 PM)
I'm ready with my DE Marquis. Damn that sting my eyes seeing White CFE already started to be delivered yet me who book on 14/03 didn't get it yet...  shakehead.gif Anyway, good seeing u having those white baby Viperz.
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14 march. kita serupa
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post May 8 2012, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(Kon8225 @ May 7 2012, 11:05 PM)
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patutlah lembab macam kura2.

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post May 8 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(johnjenin @ May 8 2012, 09:26 PM)
how about tarikh loan approve?
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approve sebelum pelancaran lagi tapi i minta pada my SA dengan person in charge loan Bank Islam untuk sain loan hanya selepas saya tengok kereta. so kereta lancar sebelah malam 16 april dan saya sain loan esoknya 17 april 1 tgahari lebih kurang. sebab saya pi bank islam time rehat. itupun saya mintak tangguh loan selepas banyak kali tanya pada SA saya (adakah Loan pengaruhi penghantaran kereta. jawapan dia mantain sama. tak da kesan. tiada kesan. sebab katanya saya dah bayar wang yuran pendaftaran RM 500.00 pd 14 march dan masih saya tanya benda yang sama selepas saya sain loan dan jawapan nya masih sama)


Added on May 8, 2012, 9:41 pm
QUOTE(K2002 @ May 8 2012, 09:08 PM)
haha no no u have proven yourself man. no hard feelings ok. i just hope that you will get your car as soon as possible and get a good car with all QC checked with 99.99% working fine condition.
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if got minor problem also ok la. just send SC and can settle. if 99.9% fine condition i'm the lucky man la. hopefully rclxms.gif smile.gif tongue.gif just dont give me lemon car or showroom car sudahlah


Added on May 8, 2012, 9:45 pm
QUOTE(Kon8225 @ May 7 2012, 11:06 PM)
Not recognize bro mat..hehe
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bro mat 79@ Datuk Seri Syed Zainal Abidin bin Syed Mohamed Tahir. (adik beradik faizal tahir ka. just gurau2)

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post May 8 2012, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(flyguyz38 @ May 8 2012, 01:18 PM)
SA just text me ask to get my baby whitey tomorrow......Tonite sure cant sleep dy...  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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ambil mana? tempah bila?
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post May 8 2012, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(G K Lai @ May 8 2012, 04:50 PM)
At least other place better than Penang.

Besides my brother saw once (Silver), can't see any other Preve on the road, why no distribution to Penang? Saw a lot of trailers carrying other cars (Elantra, Toyotas, Perodua and even other Proton cars!)

Don't know what Proton are doing?
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Kedah also. but just saw 1 solid white preve at my hometown. my family saw another blua lagoon preve at sp too. and my fried saw 2 Preve at alor setar. 2 solid white
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QUOTE(ejslayer @ May 8 2012, 05:02 PM)
we as customers deserve to know la.. not just a random excuse from our SA.. really2 wanna look for something else d, if got issues, say so, update n inform us customers, not leave us with questions.. n yet still seeing cars popping out here n there when some of the early bookers still havent gotten their car yet.. ask SA, no stock yet.. no stock yet. dafuqqqq ~ ~ ~ sold off my car d.. faker betol la !!
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betul. if they distribute it correctly by booking date, so its ok la. but some of early booker until now dindt get car. and the late one get car 1st. lg nak marah bila tanya suka menipu and just keep silent and silent and silent


Added on May 8, 2012, 10:41 pm
QUOTE(ben3003 @ May 8 2012, 05:05 PM)
my sa say proton edar not like before, now got alot of stock, then say they marketing is like tat, they wan let ppl feel like alot ppl buying the car, so they make it like need wait long long, but actually no so long. I dont really buy what he say...
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ni sorang lagi SA kaki kencing.

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post May 8 2012, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(earthdome @ May 8 2012, 06:10 PM)
compile all these complains from all user, then send to icare. give them more n more pressure
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OK. i'm follow


Added on May 8, 2012, 10:57 pm
QUOTE(marquis @ May 8 2012, 06:12 PM)
Proton thinks that with this new car, then can wow everyone. Even the service like turd also they can sell the car.

They forget, this is their home turf. Where the rakyat buys the national car mostly out of necessity, not choice.

This is probably the first car that people are actually buying because they want] to. Not because it's the only available one to them.

If this kinda bollocks continues, they can rest assured that most of the people giving them a second chance won't be that nice second time round.

If someone from Proton is reading this, it would do them well to have a response team, or even a media release explaining the delay, complete with an apology.

The rakyat isn't so stupid anymore, we won't just swallow whatever the hell you present us.

I can't speak for myself, since my delay is on the loan side, but even so, the showrooms should be getting the car. For my case, I should have at least heard news of the car being ready - just pending the loan approval.

They cannot hope to survive in the foreign market if this is how they behave at their own turf.
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who should i blame. Proton Berhad or EON (book from EON) or EON Taman Sejati Sg Petani or my SA. but i can say they lack expertise to manage delivery

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post May 8 2012, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ May 8 2012, 06:21 PM)
my SA din even tell me to go to sign the loan, only until i just called him and he say u havent sign the loan a? i say, u never say anything, wtf man, now i rethink i really feel like calling back him and fucuk him, i even intro my fren to buy saga flx se from him, now i wan ask my fren go another showroom instead edi.
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ya i thk Proton need to train their SA kaw2 how to treat customer, how to manage booking and how to satisfied their customer.


Added on May 8, 2012, 11:04 pm
QUOTE(ben3003 @ May 8 2012, 07:03 PM)
i just wrote a strong email to iCare, i think we dont have to be polite to them anymore. I believe in mutual respect, if you don respect me, there is no reason to respect you back, whoever u are, and watever age u are in.

If you cannot deliver the car, stand out and say you cannot through announcement, facebook or whatever. We paid rm500 for the car, SA keep saying " the car will come very very soon, dont worry" all sort of crap.  I tell you, if you cannot deliver the car, dont take our booking money and hold us there, hell there isnt any chassis number at all. Dont lose your ground at your home, if you lose it, nobody will support you in global, not even a single Malaysian, because you give us "f*** i care" attitude in Malaysia, dont expect us to support you. We support good products, not a Malaysian product. We saw and we believe Preve is a good Malaysian product, and we support it, but we did not get any support from you, you dont expect us to support you people. Mutual respect is what we believe, and what Proton did failed to reflect their own motto "Committed to be better".

Whoever fuk protonian see this, buck up, else i gonna put my money elsewhere. i can fuk the rm500 booking, and i will join the proton basher if they still fail to deliver. I don bash proton becos of their product, i bash proton becos they failed to notice one of the most important aspect business, customer.
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the part most i agree is i bash proton becos they failed to notice one of the most important aspect business, customer. Proton must learn how to treat ours as their customer. no customer no business no money no profit. always remember that ya Proton.

CUSTOMER IS KING


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post May 8 2012, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Ai609 @ May 8 2012, 09:35 PM)
Booked my white cfe @glenmarie .... Just now texted my SA.. Why no my white cfe (booked 1st week of April)... U know what his reply?? He said ppl booked in december 2011 oso got n not yet received his car

Aiyooo.. Mau kencing pon patut2 la
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Dec 2011? napa tak pukul cukup2 jer. saya dan ada kawan kita yang book hari 1st 14 march pun belum2 dpt2 lg


Added on May 8, 2012, 11:24 pm
QUOTE(johnjenin @ May 8 2012, 09:46 PM)
Proton promised car to be deliver one month after loan approved. Just take 17 April as the date your loan approve. Hope you can get it either next week or next two weeks. Bawak bersabar...
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kira i punya salesman kecing kaw2 la. kalau macam tu kenapa ada kes kawan kita yg baru loan approve dpt kereta? 2) kenapa perlu duit booking?


Added on May 8, 2012, 11:27 pm
QUOTE(hibiki0104 @ May 8 2012, 10:21 PM)
went to proton tanjung malim today for some company work n saw this

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3 lane of preve from one end to another. very long  que. guess what? only one red. brown also got many.

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oppss.. faulty unit tongue.gif. no front bumper. i guess thats urs  huha .
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itu silver kan. i putih la. hehehe

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post May 8 2012, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ai609 @ May 8 2012, 10:51 PM)
Called my sa to follow up.. Oh damn he is warded in hospital..Hi blood pressure Collapse during work.. He said becoz of preve.. Cust keep chasing him...warded until next week.. No wonder my car x deliver

So guys.. Dont push ur SA so hard.. Later dia masuk hospital.. U delivery will be more delay.
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hahaha. but hopefully he'll check out fast


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QUOTE(huha @ May 8 2012, 10:52 PM)
OK. i'm follow


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who should i blame. Proton Berhad or EON (book from EON) or EON Taman Sejati Sg Petani or my SA. but i can say they lack expertise to manage delivery
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post May 11 2012, 04:30 PM

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just 2 day not log in. now 97 pages already. last time login at page 44. fuhh page 97 - pages 44. 53 pages must read today. banyaknya

semalam ada d shah alam pas settle urusan kerja. sewa hotel di Art Hotel (hotel budget). masa nak check out ambil teksi tiba2 ternampak 1 trailer hantar 1 Preve' putih (CFE sbb ada spoiler kecik) ke Proton di kawasan tersebut. Siapa punya ye?

so terus call SA 3 kali sebab nak bg tau nampak ada showroom dpt kereta putih CFE. tp malangnya dia tak angkat. hinggalah harini dia tak angkat juga. So akhirnya bg pulak no phone dia pd ayah. sbb call x nak angkat. apa punya SA la suka menipu. dia kata dlm sistem no40 tempah Preve'. padahal sendiri call HQ EON dia ckp dalam sistem EON no 3 di seluruh Malaysia (EON punya sistem sahaja). plus esoknya pas 14 march dlm paper berita harian, sinar harian dan laman sesawang automatif DSZ@ Mat 79 ada cakap tempahan utk 1st day adalah sebanyak 33 biji. so bagaimana pulak boleh jd no 40 sedangkan pun tempah hari 1st pada pukul antara 12 tgahari - 3 ptg (tak pasti). So terbukti SA kami kaki klentong dan kencing no 1.

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QUOTE(FenomX @ May 9 2012, 01:02 AM)
Sorry guys for being afk so long, i must admit that i was send to the hospital due to food poisoning and i am in the stage of recovery, it seems that i have missed out quite a lot of things. I will slowly go through the page as i just got my laptop today. I will be discharge by tomorrow, Hopefully, if everything goes well.

Dares and Whitelighter and those who received my PM, please take care of this thread and i will update you guys about the info i sent earlier.

Thank you so much for your understanding. I didn't leave but i'm resting.

Hope to see you guys soon! Until then, i shall continue my sleeps. See you!
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QUOTE(prevejnn @ May 9 2012, 08:16 AM)
Take care  cool2.gif  cool2.gif  cool2.gif


Added on May 9, 2012, 8:22 am

The morale of the story dont buy proton car from dealer....
get it from branch (advice from icare staff). unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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huhu. must learn from mistake. so for the future i'll only buy new Proton from Proton Edar branch. if still want proton la

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