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post May 7 2012, 03:33 PM

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Unless you're rooted and use custom rom, SGS on stock rom lags like hell. BIG difference between stock SGS and stock S2
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post May 7 2012, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(ramz @ May 7 2012, 03:28 PM)
my sgs is not smooth like butter la. if u turn on skype. u must watch out the next application. if a little resource hungry, it will hang, then reboot.
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Hanging is a Samsung problem especially. No amount of cores or RAM will stop it hanging. Expect pletora of S3 users complaining their phones hanging 3 months later. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Matrix @ May 7 2012, 03:36 PM)
Hanging is a Samsung problem especially. No amount of cores or RAM will stop it hanging. Expect pletora of S3 users complaining their phones hanging 3 months later.  tongue.gif
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Could be user problem too.

S2 non g at least, on stock, rarely hangs, if ever. I know it's a different story apparently for g users sweat.gif

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post May 7 2012, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ May 7 2012, 03:33 PM)
Unless you're rooted and use custom rom, SGS on stock rom lags like hell. BIG difference between stock SGS and stock S2
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a bit of topic, i am on 2.3.3 stock on sgs, i'm afraid to upgrade to 2.3.6 custom rom coz i depend on my phone A LOT for communication. so i don't want to take the risk to upgrade to 2.3.6. but maybe i should can u assure me?

i heard horror stories that some functions doesn't work on 2.3.6 custom rom, like 3g video not working, some apps not ngaam, etc. is that true?
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QUOTE(ramz @ May 7 2012, 03:28 PM)
my sgs is not smooth like butter la. if u turn on skype. u must watch out the next application. if a little resource hungry, it will hang, then reboot.
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SGS got small 512MB RAM compared to 1GB on S2. Like i said before SGS reached its hardware limitations already. Hope SGS user can upgrade their old phones to S3 :-))
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QUOTE(ellimist @ May 7 2012, 03:27 PM)
Depends on how you perceive it.

I'm talking about advantages seen in GB environment (which eliminates gains from ICS). Used SGS, SGS Plus, etc. Can't match the snappiness of S2. On GB. Stock. No root. Nothing to do with GPU rendering. App launching. Etc. Not gaming.

Speed btw, speeeddd. Played briefly with the One-V. It's smooth. No particularly fast/snappy though. To my style of usage at least. Even general "everyday" usage, I pretty much hammer away at my phone. Generally doesn't keep up with my commands as I would like it to laugh.gif

And One-V unit I played with was of course on display. Slap loadsa apps, who knows what would happen. Even benny complains that One-X is sluggish after his 200 apps loaded (I personally have around there as well). So yeah, didn't bother compairing to a different UI (sense)
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You put in 200 apps, what phone also die. So again, nothing to do with cores. SGS1 is fast enough for everyday usage, that's the keyword. Laggin in Android occasionally is a given, no amount of cores will help unless Google rewrite their code from scratch. Live with it.

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post May 7 2012, 03:42 PM

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Some of you might like this... it's voting time!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/05/06/we...g-galaxy-s-iii/
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post May 7 2012, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ May 7 2012, 03:36 PM)
Hanging is a Samsung problem especially. No amount of cores or RAM will stop it hanging. Expect pletora of S3 users complaining their phones hanging 3 months later.  tongue.gif
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Aiyohh..please la bro. Dont start the hanging issue again.
Sold your wife G version phone and buy S3. Buy it early and dont use crack apps in it.
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QUOTE(ellimist @ May 7 2012, 03:38 PM)
Could be user problem too.

S2 non g at least, on stock, rarely hangs, if ever. I know it's a different story apparently for g users sweat.gif
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doh.gif

How many times need to argue?

https://www.google.com.my/search?q=samsung+...UJ4XyrQeMzunnAQ

9.3 million results "Samsung i9100 hangs". You go read one by one...i've no time...tongue.gif


Added on May 7, 2012, 3:45 pm
QUOTE(waveweaver @ May 7 2012, 03:43 PM)
Aiyohh..please la bro. Dont start the hanging issue again.
Sold your wife G version phone and buy S3. Buy it early and dont use crack apps in it.
~~peace~~
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Which eye you see i use crack apps? Left or right? I have 2 SGS2 btw, 1 G Tab 7.7 and a Samsung Bada. And i don't use crack apps FYI.

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QUOTE(Matrix @ May 7 2012, 03:41 PM)
You put in 200 apps, what phone also die. So again, nothing to do with cores. SGS1 is fast enough for everyday usage, that's the keyword. Laggin in Android occasionally is a given, no amount of cores will help unless Google rewrite their code from scratch. Live with it.
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Frankly, S2 non-G is bloody smooth. I can't call it lag even. Yup, with plenty of apps and some spyware like apps that pops up advert once a while the kind.

The extra cores would help in loading apps into memory, will greatly shorten the time requires to read from memory and database access.
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QUOTE(Matrix @ May 7 2012, 03:41 PM)
You put in 200 apps, what phone also die. So again, nothing to do with cores. SGS1 is fast enough for everyday usage, that's the keyword. Laggin in Android occasionally is a given, no amount of cores will help unless Google rewrite their code from scratch. Live with it.
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Put 200 apps, mana die. My s2 runs a-okay with the 200+ apps. Pretty darn smooth somemore

Note that benny complained on HOX. And his Note runs perfectly fine with those apps. And yes, I agree, nothing to do with cores. Was just an illustration of another matter (that cannot compare with HTC, pasal diff manufacturer diff tolerance etc) laugh.gif

And it's good enough for your everyday use, not mine. I use my gf's SGS PLUS (higher clock speed than SGS1?) with minimal apps in it, and for the lift of me I can't stand how it isn't snappy enough.
S2 for me is snappier, but still doesn't help much.

Or put it this way, when I change hotplug tweak to off second core, I feel like pulling my hair out. It's not like it doesn't move. It does. App launches decently. Scrolling through app tray is decent as well. But not fast enough for daily use. And only variable here was disabling second core. On my S2. So yeah.
And as it is, I already wish my S2 was faster on a daily use. (messaging etc, not talking about gaming, which I haven't had the time to do recently)

Speed btw, not too concerned bout the lag. Can be mostly eliminated via reducing governor sample times, using scripts from fellow forumer pikachu, implementing good old LMKs if your ROM doesn't already have it, etc rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(ramz @ May 7 2012, 03:39 PM)
a bit of topic, i am on 2.3.3 stock on sgs, i'm afraid to upgrade to 2.3.6 custom rom coz i depend on my phone A LOT for communication. so i don't want to take the risk to upgrade to 2.3.6. but maybe i should can u assure me?

i heard horror stories that some functions doesn't work on 2.3.6 custom rom, like 3g video not working, some apps not ngaam, etc. is that true?
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Updating 2.3.3 to 2.3.6 shouldn't be any problem as both is Gingerbread. Your SGS still on stock or use custom roms already. All apps should be working without problems.
3G video i cant comment as i sold my SGS quite long long time ago when S2 launched.
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QUOTE(Matrix @ May 7 2012, 03:44 PM)
doh.gif

How many times need to argue?

https://www.google.com.my/search?q=samsung+...UJ4XyrQeMzunnAQ

9.3 million results "Samsung i9100 hangs". You go read one by one...i've no time...tongue.gif


Added on May 7, 2012, 3:45 pm
Which eye you see i use crack apps? Left or right? I have 2 SGS2 btw, 1 G Tab 7.7 and a Samsung Bada. And i don't use crack apps FYI.
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Oh is it? Sorrry masterrrrrrrrr. Erm yes SGS 2 non g therefore suffers from hang issue notworthy.gif

How I know dei, just recounting to you my personal experience, as well as some of my friends who use non g on stock non root ma. Don't la so serious, wasn't arguing with you oso. Recounting MY (and several friends') experience nia ma. Fine next time I say YMMV >______>
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QUOTE(Matrix @ May 7 2012, 03:44 PM)
doh.gif

How many times need to argue?

https://www.google.com.my/search?q=samsung+...UJ4XyrQeMzunnAQ

9.3 million results "Samsung i9100 hangs". You go read one by one...i've no time...tongue.gif


Added on May 7, 2012, 3:45 pm
Which eye you see i use crack apps? Left or right? I have 2 SGS2 btw, 1 G Tab 7.7 and a Samsung Bada. And i don't use crack apps FYI.
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I guess this is part of phone hanging too? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Harddisk @ May 7 2012, 03:42 PM)
Some of you might like this... it's voting time!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/05/06/we...g-galaxy-s-iii/
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voted.. brows.gif

just now listen to BFM's comments on s3 and the things that he said i felt pretty bias as he didn't spend time to fully understand the phone like us and comment based on reviews online and comments online. i listen liao i oso :facepalmed:
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Eh actually Matrix, when I open your search:

1st result is tutorial on how to hard-reset, where got mention always hang?
2nd result says "t just sometimes freezes without no means, and this reportedly happens very rare"
3rd result not even mentioned in article. And among all the comments, just one guy mention "hang"

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QUOTE(farscope @ May 7 2012, 03:54 PM)
voted.. brows.gif

just now listen to BFM's comments on s3 and the things that he said i felt pretty bias as he didn't spend time to fully understand the phone like us and comment based on reviews online and comments online. i listen liao i oso :facepalmed:
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QUOTE(ellimist @ May 7 2012, 03:48 PM)
Put 200 apps, but not using it.

Note that benny complained on HOX. And his Note runs perfectly fine with those apps. And yes, I agree, nothing to do with cores. Was just an illustration laugh.gif

And it's good enough for your everyday use, not mine. I use my gf's SGS PLUS (higher clock speed than SGS1?) with minimal apps in it, and for the lift of me I can't stand how it isn't snappy enough.
S2 for me is snappier, but still doesn't help much.

Or put it this way, when I change hotplug tweak to off second core, I feel like pulling my hair out. It's not like it doesn't move. It does. App launches decently. Scrolling through app tray is decent as well. But not fast enough for daily use. And only variable here was disabling second core. On my S2. So yeah.
And as it is, I already wish my S2 was faster on a daily use. (messaging etc, not talking about gaming, which I haven't had the time to do recently)

Speed btw, not too concerned bout the lag. Can be mostly eliminated via reducing governor sample times, using scripts from fellow forumer pikachu, implementing good old LMKs if your ROM doesn't already have it, etc  rolleyes.gif
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Try installing 200 apps to your PC. Your boot up lag like turtle no matter how fast yoru machine...tongue.gif

Yes, i agree S2 is a bit faster in general UI usage...but it's not really something to shout about....

And the reason the SGS Plus is inferior to the SGS2....Andreno 205 (inferior GPU) and 512MB RAM vs 1GB, rather than the number of cores.
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Doesn't attracts much attention, seems like is something good,
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QUOTE(farscope @ May 7 2012, 03:54 PM)
voted.. brows.gif

just now listen to BFM's comments on s3 and the things that he said i felt pretty bias as he didn't spend time to fully understand the phone like us and comment based on reviews online and comments online. i listen liao i oso :facepalmed:
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Just let it be. The most important thing is you satisfied with the phone yourself. And the phone should atleast meet 80% of your daily requirement/needs. What others say good doesn't mean it must be also good for you. And vice versa :-))

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