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post May 5 2012, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(ogiveyakuza @ May 5 2012, 09:20 PM)
i really dunno, shuld i get s3 or not...going to miss my gnote if going to buy s3...huhu
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try the hand on for s3 1st then only decide
furthermore, so far the difference for s3 and note just NFC and better processor

QUOTE(ZeneticX @ May 5 2012, 09:22 PM)
financially wise if you have no problem, just go for it. and you can sell ur gnote to earn back some cash, at least the resale price is not low now
but if you're thinking of saving and waiting. then i suggest u to wait for note successor. who knows it might come with exynos 5, that is a very big jump. note > s3 won't be considered a major upgrade for me
same for my case, i feel if i go for s3, i'm just wasting money and end up at almost the same spot.
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normally 1 year release 1 processor
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post May 5 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ May 5 2012, 09:25 PM)
I wont be selling GNote if i were you. Selling S2 or GNex maybe worth it but not GNote as it will receive ICS with Premium Suite  by next month. Better start saving and buy S3 at the end of this year :-)
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maybe at end of the year release note 2 / note successor @@
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ May 5 2012, 09:22 PM)
but if you're thinking of saving and waiting. then i suggest u to wait for note successor. who knows it might come with exynos 5, that is a very big jump. note > s3 won't be considered a major upgrade for me
same for my case, i feel if i go for s3, i'm just wasting money and end up at almost the same spot.
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I doubt Samsung will put Exynos 5 in smartphones this year. If they do use it, it'll be in tabs. Only in 2013 then we can see Exynos 5 in smartphones

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post May 5 2012, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(ken2291 @ May 5 2012, 09:28 PM)
I doubt Samsung will put Exynos 5 in smartphones this year.  If they do use it, it'll be in tabs.  Only in 2013 then we can start seeing Exynos 5 in smartphones
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note is not considered a 'smartphone' right? tongue.gif its a class of its own


so still have chance exynos 5 might debut in it

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ May 5 2012, 09:27 PM)
maybe at end of the year release note 2 / note successor @@
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It's different upgrading GNote to GNote 2 (if got one). S3 and GNote sitting in different categories. Selling GNote just for buying S3 is not worth it. Unless you find GNote is too big for you then only it worth to sell and buy S3.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ May 5 2012, 09:31 PM)
note is not considered a 'smartphone' right? tongue.gif its a class of its own
so still have chance exynos 5 might debut in it
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Possible, but personally doubt so. Note currently uses same proc as s2, just bumped up. Doubt they'll go introduce a new proc in Note and suddenly increase the differentiating factor to beyond form factor. Might not be good for S3 sales after that
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wait some white rats test the s3 first
and some review only decide
cause still thinking get s3 or try pure view 808 with windows os
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guy i wan to ask u guys

from wave 1ghz solo core to s2 dual core to s3 quad core...

if i own the s3 quad d right...

what else improvement can i expect fr say, s4..

cant be penta or octa cores right lol

im just saying this cuz like some ppl said, thinking if the jumpship fr s2 is worth it or not.

i dont wan phablets.

i say like this cuz if ters not much to look forward to after s4, then maybe superphone will stick with quad cores for a long time thus justifying THE upgrade for a long time, no? i dont mean the beefed up battery or perhaps FLED screen in s4 lol
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ May 5 2012, 09:33 PM)
It's different upgrading GNote to GNote 2 (if got one). S3 and GNote sitting in different categories. Selling GNote just for buying S3 is not worth it. Unless you find GNote is too big for you then only it worth to sell and buy S3.
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o.O, but s3 and note spec almost the same
just got better processor and got NFC @@
since i didn't own note, and just own s2, so I upgrade to s3

QUOTE(silrave @ May 5 2012, 09:35 PM)
wait some white rats test the s3 first
and some review only decide
cause still thinking get s3 or try pure view 808 with windows os
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LOL
i though pureview 808 is using symbian o.O ???
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post May 5 2012, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(ellimist @ May 5 2012, 09:33 PM)
Possible, but personally doubt so. Note currently uses same proc as s2, just bumped up. Doubt they'll go introduce a new proc in Note and suddenly increase the differentiating factor to beyond form factor. Might not be good for S3 sales after that
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need to depend on the market condition as well

snapdragon s4 is already in so the competition is there. if suddenly snapdragon decide to release their snapdragon s4 quad that might persuade samsung to bring in their exynos 5 as well

but knowing samsung and their users, they have the ability to postpone it until Q1 2013 and still survive the market

QUOTE(wayfeel @ May 5 2012, 09:35 PM)
guy i wan to ask u guys

from wave 1ghz solo core to s2 dual core to s3 quad core...

if i own the s3 quad d right...

what else improvement can i expect fr say, s4..

cant be penta or octa cores  right lol

im just saying this cuz like some ppl said, thinking if the jumpship fr s2 is worth it or not.

i dont wan phablets.

i say like this cuz if ters not much to look forward to after s4, then maybe superphone will stick with quad cores for a long time thus justifying THE upgrade for a long time, no? i dont mean the beefed up battery or perhaps FLED screen in s4 lol
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to be honest with you, the quad on the s3 is considered an " outdated " tech because it still relies on the old cortex A9 architecture. however since its 32nm its still better than current quads lets say tegra 3 which is 40nm.

if you wan a real jump and real deal in performance, wait for exynos 5 or snapdragon s4 quad, which are based on A15 and 28nm


you can check out the benchmarks of s3 compared with current market leaders. its around 10 - 20% faster than tegra 3 thanks to its 32nm process. but the snapdragon s4 DUAL CORE is still able to keep up to it


and that comes to another point, you can't judge a phone performance based on how many cores the processor have. this applies to desktop processors as well. cores are just to share the load of processes in the phone so when things get too loaded, more cores will join in to the processing part


take this example, its like 4 protons trying to carry a bunch of passengers from one spot to another on a straight road, compared to 2 lamborghinis doing the same thing. and note there's no traffic jam tongue.gif

hope you guys get my point icon_rolleyes.gif

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why everybody is more concern about its exynos processor performance. But I think S III main selling point is not the processor speed, but is its function & features. (Just like iPhone attract consumers with its Siri capabilities) Even with the highest performance phone, but only with less features is totally suck.
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ May 5 2012, 09:35 PM)
o.O, but s3 and note spec almost the same
just got better processor and got NFC @@
since i didn't own note, and just own s2, so I upgrade to s3
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i though pureview 808 is using symbian o.O ???
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Actually you forget about the software part, SIII's main selling point is the new features introduced by Samsung.
I see manufacturers doing the same in the future
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Actually a dual cores processor should be enough for small smartphones though quad cores can be more future proof.
How many things can we do with such small phones.? I dont think there gonna be octa or penta after quad cores. Most probably they will only improve the processor not expand it. It's time for the apps to catch up and fully utilised the quad cores and aslo it's time to improve our battery technology.
Luckily Samsung is good in R&D on phone screens dept. We can expect more goodies on the phone screen..years to comes.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ May 5 2012, 09:39 PM)
need to depend on the market condition as well

snapdragon s4 is already in so the competition is there. if suddenly snapdragon decide to release their snapdragon s4 quad that might persuade samsung to bring in their exynos 5 as well

but knowing samsung and their users, they have the ability to postpone it until Q1 2013 and still survive the market
to be honest with you, the quad on the s3 is considered an " outdated " tech because it still relies on the old cortex A9 architecture. however since its 32nm its still better than current quads lets say tegra 3 which is 40nm.

if you wan a real jump and real deal in performance, wait for exynos 5 or snapdragon s4 quad, which are based on A15 and 28nm
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thanks for your point.

actually i m aware of the 40, 32, 28nm architecture also. i got read about the snapdragon s4 can 'overtake' d s3 quad in some cases , cuz the apps/script probably written for dual core optimisation. n u r right again about real world performance may vary

but across the board, surely a quad is better than dual core (im taking the understanding from computer). and even quad cores tech in computer stays "stagnant" d as if met a technology saturation point.

anything 'enhanced'/extra , most of the time is simply marketing gimmicks. at the expense of the customers

for e.g. i always buy new laptop when they change the motherboard n die shrink since its more significant update rather than the proc itself, microsoft tick tock schedule...ie now using 2nd gen i5, but everytime, my computer didnt quite feel faster than my previous centrino 2 , they both also no faster than my first gen solo core lol get my drift?

im sure the cortex A15 will supercede A9. but 40 vs 32 is 'marginal' but 32 to 28 doesnt seem so big lol as to the enhancement from dual to quad thus justifying the jump to quad alone is good enuf.

i guess the answer is we'll hv to wait n see if the feeling is right (or irresistible) , just jumpship right lol since nowadays, many of my neighbours children, or friend's friend or friend's friend's of friends r dying of some malfunction, partly due to 'sai miang' lifestyle lol...we never knw whats happening tomorrow lol so just enjoy whatever u can without flipping your bank account lol

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QUOTE(wayfeel @ May 5 2012, 09:35 PM)
guy i wan to ask u guys
from wave 1ghz solo core to s2 dual core to s3 quad core...
if i own the s3 quad d right...
what else improvement can i expect fr say, s4..
cant be penta or octa cores  right lol
im just saying this cuz like some ppl said, thinking if the jumpship fr s2 is worth it or not.
i dont wan phablets.
i say like this cuz if ters not much to look forward to after s4, then maybe superphone will stick with quad cores for a long time thus justifying THE upgrade for a long time, no? i dont mean the beefed up battery or perhaps FLED screen in s4 lol
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Like I said, there'll be more focus on softwares
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QUOTE(ken2291 @ May 5 2012, 09:57 PM)
laugh.gif

Actually you forget about the software part, SIII's main selling point is the new features introduced by Samsung.
I see manufacturers doing the same in the future
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ya which is design for human whistling.gif

QUOTE(waveweaver @ May 5 2012, 09:58 PM)
Actually a dual cores processor should be enough for small smartphones though quad cores can be more future proof.
How many things can we do with such small phones.? I dont think there gonna be octa or penta after quad cores. Most probably they will only improve the processor not expand it. It's time for the apps to catch up and fully utilised the quad cores and aslo it's time to improve our battery technology.
Luckily Samsung is good in R&D on phone screens dept. We can expect more goodies on the phone screen..years to comes.
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a phone forever is just a phone
can't do all the things that computer can do
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ May 5 2012, 10:02 PM)
+1
a phone forever is just a phone
can't do all the things that computer can do
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QUOTE(wayfeel @ May 5 2012, 10:00 PM)
thanks for your time.

actually i m aware of the 40, 32, 28nm architecture also. i got read about the snapdragon s4 can 'overtake' d s3 quad in some cases , cuz the apps/script probably written for dual core optimisation. n u r right again about real world performance.

but across the board, surely a quad is better than dual core (im taking the understanding from computer)

then again, i always buy new laptop when they change the motherboard n die shrink rather than the proc itself, microsoft tick tock schedule...ie now using 2nd gen i5, but everytime, my computer didnt quite feel faster than my previous centrino 2 , they both also no faster than my first gen solo core lol

anything 'enhanced', most of the time is simply marketing gimmicks.

im sure the cortex A15  will supercede A9. but 40 vs 32 is 'marginal' but 32 to 28 doesnt seem so big lol

i guess the answer is we'll hv to wait n see if the feeling is right (or irresistible) , just jumpship right lol since nowadays, many of my neighbours children, or friend's friend or friend's friend's of friends r dying...we never knw whats happening tomorrow lol so just enjoy whatever u cant without flipping your bank account lol
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so ask back yourself whether you really need the extra 2 cores tongue.gif

but as many mentioned, s3 got many features software wise which other phones dunhav.


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as for me, since now i'm stuck with a 40nm processor, i might as well just wait for the 28nm.

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QUOTE(AlexLai @ May 5 2012, 10:04 PM)
Until Windows 8 for ARM comes out laugh.gif
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like this then forever is just a tablet whistling.gif
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ May 5 2012, 10:02 PM)
ya which is design for human whistling.gif
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a phone forever is just a phone
can't do all the things that computer can do
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sarcasm detected lol

but if the design is naturally fitting in our hands...wudnt tht be good.

only gripe is, i rmb owning the samsung wave, brushed metal...n DAMN, that phone can glide off your hand so easily like eel !!!! I swear...

i hope this brushed plastic isnt such...i just hate using casing. i never use casing on all my phone. well, myb i did, 15% of the time only

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